Which guns did Adam Lanza use in the Sandy Hook shooting?

[QUOTE=daily]How about you stop reading or posting in these threads if people thinking you have a major screw loose bothers you so much?

In this thread you want to see pictures as "proof"

in this thread you're posting pics of the pentagon saying the photos are photo shopped [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287698[/url][/QUOTE]


I didn't say it was photoshopped... I was saying it could be.

Whatever... I already know how this routine works. I argued about 9/11 forever on this forum and I'm not about to start arguing Sandy Hook bull$hit for years upon years.... Some people are programed to skeptical and some people aren't.

I'm done.

I've said what i wanted to say and I'll STFU from here on out (regarding Sandy Hook).

None of this would of ever happened if Robbie Parker didn't look like he was leaving a comedy show before he got on camera.

[QUOTE]You think I wanted to say these people are actors? Do you think all the people on the internet in the YOUTUBE COMMENTS SECTION want to force some conspiracy theory?[/QUOTE]

yes I do

I think for the typical conspiracy theorist this was a conspiracy the very second they heard something happened, without any details. I already knew that you would think this is a conspiracy before I talked to you about it.

Some people just like to find conspiracies in EVERYTHING...you are one of those people.

Do you care about the laws being passed because of this?...no you don't...you're not even a gun owner...all you care about is creating a conspiracy theory.

[QUOTE=Riddler]I didn't say it was photoshopped... I was saying it could be.

Whatever... I already know how this routine works. I argued about 9/11 forever on this forum and I'm not about to start arguing Sandy Hook bull$hit for years upon years.... Some people are programed to skeptical and some people aren't.

I'm done.

I've said what i wanted to say and I'll STFU from here on out (regarding Sandy Hook).

None of this would of ever happened if Robbie Parker didn't look like he was leaving a comedy show before he got on camera.[/QUOTE]

Do you understand 20 little kids got shot for no other reason than they went to school? You want to act like an aggrieved party because nobody wants to listen to your insensitive bullshit? Serious? Poor you.

Some little kids lost their lives but that pales to the fact this message board won't listen to one of your theories. I feel for you. So terrible.

[QUOTE=niko]Do you understand 20 little kids got shot for no other reason than they went to school? You want to act like an aggrieved party because nobody wants to listen to your insensitive bullshit? Serious? Poor you.

Some little kids lost their lives but that pales to the fact this message board won't listen to one of your theories. I feel for you. So terrible.[/QUOTE]
I agree with maniac in that "to discredit a conspiracy solely because there are children involved is stubborn"

yeah niko these were 20 little kids and that is sad...guess what there were 2,000+ people that died on 911 which trumps Sandy Hook 1,000x over in terms of "sadness" and it didn't stop the conspiracies from coming.

I think this conspiracy is ridiculous but I also think the "little kids were involved so don't question anything" is not a good way to view this...

[QUOTE=Riddler]BTW... if you want to see Piers Morgan get completely owned by some guy I've never heard of... watch this video:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJdhAm_oUUs[/url]
[B]COMPLETE: Ben Shapiro CUTS Piers Morgan DOWN[/B][/QUOTE]

I don't see how either one won that argument. Ben Shapiro seems like a major dweeb though with that nasally voice and smug demeanor. Near the end he resorts to calling Piers stupid lol.

Dooms, weren't you done with annoying ISH with your conspiracy theory gimmick? There is always another conspiracy, one more crazier than the next. Didn't you promise in the past all this was done?

There are other outlets out there for you:
[url]http://forum.prisonplanet.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/index.php[/url]
[url]http://www.davidicke.com/forum/[/url]

etc etc.

Why make us suffer?

I know he is on ATS...that is where he gets these stories to bring in here...somewhere on that site there is a thread with 100 people like Dooms all saying [I]"yeah, he looked weird when he smiled in that video, must be a conspiracy"[/I]

"prison planet" smh

that pretty much sums up how conspiracy theorists think...like they are trapped by "the man" or something...like they are prisoners to the government.

they basically just live in fear of a higher power on Earth...

[QUOTE=LJJ]Dooms, weren't you done with annoying ISH with your conspiracy theory gimmick? There is always another conspiracy, one more crazier than the next. Didn't you promise in the past all this was done?

There are other outlets out there for you:
[url]http://forum.prisonplanet.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/index.php[/url]
[url]http://www.davidicke.com/forum/[/url]

etc etc.

Why make us suffer?[/QUOTE]



[img]http://images.piratenews.org/Illuminati-Cards-Alex-Jones-Ron-Paul-SMOF.jpg[/img]


Alex Jones and David Icke are both Illuminati... It's in the 1995 card game...

How dare you try to lead me to their forums.


But I do support ATS... and I use to post there all the time... now I just lurk.

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]I know he is on ATS...that is where he gets these stories to bring in here...somewhere on that site there is a thread with 100 people like Dooms all saying [I]"yeah, he looked weird when he smiled in that video, must be a conspiracy"[/I]

"prison planet" smh

that pretty much sums up how conspiracy theorists think...like they are trapped by "the man" or something...like they are prisoners to the government.

they basically just live in fear of a higher power on Earth...[/QUOTE]

ATS is the $hit....

look at their home page from time to time...

[url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/[/url]

They got good info.


And you've only seen one Robbie Parker video, so don't act like you're informed. I'll give you credit on researching 9/11 to some degree, but you haven't seen anything on Sandy Hook except Robbie Parker's laugh & smile.

[QUOTE=Jackass18]Are you talking about something like this:

[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/xeq2yg.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]


You can generate that yourself by doing advanced search and giving the date time frame you want. the google search gives you the latest news but puts the date on it you requested

here's one i just did with [URL="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22sandy+hook%22+shooting&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&ei=uMDtUPLKMYnyigLN_4DYDg&ved=0CCEQpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F12%2F2012&tbm=#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&tbs=cdr:1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F12%2F2012&sclient=psy-ab&q=lance+armstrong+confesses+to+oprah&oq=lance+armstrong+confesses+to+oprah&gs_l=serp.3...148234.159526.0.159896.54.33.0.9.9.5.679.9694.2-21j2j2j5.30.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.uhKAZljA5kg&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41248874,d.Yms&fp=c4a6a840dc754efa&biw=1280&bih=685"]Lance Armstrong confessing to Oprah[/URL]



notice even though it aired last night there's several going back a few months. It's one of the oldest tricks in the books the conspiracy nuts use and saps just keep buying it

[QUOTE=daily]It's one of the oldest tricks in the books the conspiracy nuts use and saps just keep buying it[/QUOTE]

That is largely why I never really even bother considering their claims. They are often too disingenuous or far reaching.

The other thing that grinds my gears in when they leave in already falsified claims. Part of their tactics (which aren't unlike young earth creationist tactics) is to essentially blitzkrieg you with a list of several dozen facts or claims in one hit. The more claims there are the more time it takes to go through an analyze and/or debunk each one. What makes these lists of claims more extensive is leaving in claims they might even know are wrong - simply because it is more time consuming to counter.

[QUOTE=Riddler]there is proof of a conspiracy in regards to 9/11... people like to say there isn't any proof... But the proof is there. I mean, I'd love to take a Boeing and nose dive it in same field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania to show you guys what a real plane crash would look like... People like to take this PROOF and twist it around to suggest flight 93 was shot down so we could stop AQ from hitting their fourth target... give me a break. (that's one of the many examples of PROOF)

A dozen people acting odd days after the Newtown shooting is not proof... you are correct... But if people have done the amount of research I've done on Sandy Hook, you'd be a fool to NOT be skeptical.

with 9/11 being the conspiracy that it is... setting up a Sandy Hook Hoax would be a walk in the park for these people... It would be easy to fake.[/QUOTE]

Dooms, my e-ga. I'm with you all the way on 9/11; you knew that, you been knew that. However man, I have to say I'm not buying this Sandy Hook incident being a conspiracy. I think it probably hurts the family members very deeply knowing that there are many people out there who think their son or daughter actually didn't die and the gov. just paid them millions to keep their trap shut. I'm sorry, but 20 children?

I know what you're thinking... if we can mastermind something as tragic as 9/11, what the hell can't our government do? I'm just saying IMO, Aurora and Sandy Hook were actual factual unfortunate circumstances that honestly did happen, and it's pretty damn tragic.

I somewhat believe the ultimate agenda is to disarm the citizens and implement something like martial law, etc, but I don't see these shootings being the result of an inside job. Just can't.

[QUOTE=Legend of Josh]Dooms, my e-ga. I'm with you all the way on 9/11; you knew that, you been knew that. However man, I have to say I'm not buying this Sandy Hook incident being a conspiracy. I think it probably hurts the family members very deeply knowing that there are many people out there who think their son or daughter actually didn't die and the gov. just paid them millions to keep their trap shut. I'm sorry, but 20 children?

I know what you're thinking... if we can mastermind something as tragic as 9/11, what the hell can't our government do? I'm just saying IMO, Aurora and Sandy Hook were actual factual unfortunate circumstances that honestly did happen, and it's pretty damn tragic.

I somewhat believe the ultimate agenda is to disarm the citizens and implement something like martial law, etc, but I don't see these shootings being the result of an inside job. Just can't.[/QUOTE]

I just find it weird he is so willing to go along with this one? Statistically it is more likely that after accepting one conspiracy theory you will be likely to accept more of them. But this one is pretty weak and almost seems opportunistic of the conspiracy theorists to take it up. I mean nothing is going to top 9/11, but they need their next hit of endorphins! Any mass tragedy will do I suppose?

[QUOTE=miller-time]I just find it weird he is so willing to go along with this one? Statistically it is more likely that after accepting one conspiracy theory you will be likely to accept more of them. But this one is pretty weak and almost seems opportunistic of the conspiracy theorists to take it up. I mean nothing is going to top 9/11, but they need their next hit of endorphins! Any mass tragedy will do I suppose?[/QUOTE]

I would advise to tread carefully when mocking conspiracy theorists... one day it might blow up in your face.

'just sayin' ...

I don't believe every conspiracy theory out there, but I'll tell you human nature is damn near pure evil at the highest levels of power and control, which is exactly what the US government is. Would you literally drop your jaw if proof of the JFK assassination or 9/11 came to light?

I believe if people don't wake up they're in for a rude awakening in the end. In our lifetime.

[QUOTE=Legend of Josh]I believe if people don't wake up they're in for a rude awakening in the end. In our lifetime.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but people have been expecting things to happen in their lifetime since forever. Studying history is a good way to predict the future. Same old same old man. Our time and our people aren't as special as we like to think they are.

But I find it funny that real life conspiracies happen - like the Libor scandal, yet the conspiracy theorists only mention it in relation to these two massacres but don't actually care about the scandal itself. I mean these people ARE screwing the world. But it is only interesting to them if it involves mind control or vague secret societies.

[QUOTE=Riddler]You think I wanted to say these people are actors?[/quote]

Yep.

[quote]We call it the way we see it... and what we see are a bunch of f*cking actors.[/quote]

Doesn't mean it's true. All you have is a video where some people think there's bad actors. It's a tiny, flimsy case. There's nothing to support it.

[quote]There is so much skepticism surrounding Sandy Hook that CNN finally had to address it!!!! Don't act like it's only a few conspiracy theorists on the internet trying to make it look like a conspiracy. There's a $hit load of people that think something it's bull$Hit.[/QUOTE]

Well, because some assholes have posted that stupid conspiracy video all over the place nonstop and then that caused others to jump on the bandwagon and some of them started posting it and so on. How about aiming some of that skepticism towards conspiracy videos? Maybe if there was compelling evidence I'd jump aboard, but all I see are dumb videos with people trying to twist nonsense to fit their agenda and being opportunistic on the other things (some absurdly act like the media never makes a mistake reporting the news...).

[quote]Some people are programed to skeptical and some people aren't.[/quote]

Funny, you seem to only be skeptical on the side of the conspiracy theorists. You don't seem to be at all skeptical about the conspiracy theorists themselves. You think only the gov't has an agenda? Guess what, conspiracy theorists also have an agenda. The government isn't the only side that can be full of shit.

What is wrong with conspiracy theories. They get so much hate, but it's so stupid because their method is skepticism.

This is why the educational system is so f*cked up: it only tells you how and what to think but it never tells you to question so call "facts." It even comes up with a made term "objectivity" to kill all sorts of skepticism.

Socrates was the father of philosophy because he simply said, "I don't know anything, so I will deny everything and keep looking for answers."

All these kids think they know everything because they are too stupid to think for themselves and need someone of authority to tell them how to think: if the teacher says it, it is true; if the media says it, it is true, if my parents, government, tradition, etc. says it is true, then it must be true.

You get the gist.

The smartest people I know are the ones who are always skeptical and asking questions.

[B]It is when you deny this or that and act like you already know it all is when you are acting stupid.[/B]

So f*ck the haters Riddler and keep on pondering for answers you feel aren't there. At least you can take solace in knowing you are not just a tool who believes whatever they are being told.

[QUOTE=Legend of Josh]Dooms, my e-ga. I'm with you all the way on 9/11; you knew that, you been knew that. However man, I have to say I'm not buying this Sandy Hook incident being a conspiracy. I think it probably hurts the family members very deeply knowing that there are many people out there who think their son or daughter actually didn't die and the gov. just paid them millions to keep their trap shut. I'm sorry, but 20 children?
[/QUOTE]

I can't speak about this Sandy Hook stuff for much longer... gotta let this one go. People here in the OTC are getting mad about this, and I genuinely don't like making people mad (even on the internet)... I'm a nice guy damnit!!!

I can't say I'm fully on board with the Sand Hook Hoax, but I'll just end my thread by saying I'm very skeptical about he whole thing.... And that's different from believing wholeheartedly that 9/11 is a lie.

a couple of threads you should look into:

[url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread918798/pg1[/url]

[url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread919223/pg1[/url]

Interesting^

[QUOTE=daily]You can generate that yourself by doing advanced search and giving the date time frame you want. the google search gives you the latest news but puts the date on it you requested[/quote]

I know, that was a 'print screen' I did to show that Google doesn't always give accurate dates.

[quote]notice even though it aired last night there's several going back a few months. It's one of the oldest tricks in the books the conspiracy nuts use and saps just keep buying it[/QUOTE]

Yep. I've even read posts by people who emailed a site about why a webpage about Sandy Hook had a date 4 days previous to it happening and then acting like their answer was complete bullshit. 'Google never makes mistakes like this! It's a conspiracy and their bullshit excuse is laughable!'

HOLY $HIT:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&bpctr=1358599990[/url]
[B]The Sandy Hook Shooting - Fully Exposed[/B]


[SIZE="5"]10,918,872 VIEWS[/SIZE]
[I]36,225 likes - 9,971 dislikes[/I]

These videos are going viral... That's a lot of views.

[QUOTE=Jackass18]Yep.[/QUOTE]

No.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]What is wrong with conspiracy theories. They get so much hate, but it's so stupid because their method is skepticism.

This is why the educational system is so f*cked up: it only tells you how and what to think but it never tells you to question so call "facts." It even comes up with a made term "objectivity" to kill all sorts of skepticism.

Socrates was the father of philosophy because he simply said, "I don't know anything, so I will deny everything and keep looking for answers."

All these kids think they know everything because they are too stupid to think for themselves and need someone of authority to tell them how to think: if the teacher says it, it is true; if the media says it, it is true, if my parents, government, tradition, etc. says it is true, then it must be true.

You get the gist.

The smartest people I know are the ones who are always skeptical and asking questions.

[B]It is when you deny this or that and act like you already know it all is when you are acting stupid.[/B]

So f*ck the haters Riddler and keep on pondering for answers you feel aren't there. At least you can take solace in knowing you are not just a tool who believes whatever they are being told.[/QUOTE]

Why do people like you think you're the only skeptical people? Where is the skepticism towards these wacky conspiracy theories? It's one thing to be skeptical and another to buy into whatever bullshit conspiracy theorists twist to fit their agendas. Some people require compelling evidence while people like you seem to cling to whatever flimsy nonsense comes their way. Also, have you ever heard of Occam's razor? But whatever, keep up with your stupid generalizations if they help you sleep at night.

[QUOTE=Riddler]There is so much skepticism surrounding Sandy Hook that CNN finally had to address it!!!![/quote]

Another reason why the media is addressing it is because there's conspiracy theorist assholes out there harassing the people of Newtown.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]What is wrong with conspiracy theories. [B]They get so much hate, but it's so stupid because their method is skepticism.
[/B]
This is why the educational system is so f*cked up: it only tells you how and what to think but it never tells you to question so call "facts." It even comes up with a made term "objectivity" to kill all sorts of skepticism.

Socrates was the father of philosophy because he simply said, "I don't know anything, so I will deny everything and keep looking for answers."

All these kids think they know everything because they are too stupid to think for themselves and need someone of authority to tell them how to think: if the teacher says it, it is true; if the media says it, it is true, if my parents, government, tradition, etc. says it is true, then it must be true.

You get the gist.

The smartest people I know are the ones who are always skeptical and asking questions.

[B]It is when you deny this or that and act like you already know it all is when you are acting stupid.[/B]

So f*ck the haters Riddler and keep on pondering for answers you feel aren't there. At least you can take solace in knowing you are not just a tool who believes whatever they are being told.[/QUOTE]

Here is the problem. You let your philosophical enquiry die at the birth of the 20th century. Read Karl Popper and then you will understand the difference between skepticism and the popular conspiracy theory method.

Skepticism is not about asking unwarranted questions, it is about questioning a claim. Conspiracy theorists make claims, they don't ask questions, they take random data points and find a pattern, and based on some correlation they make an assertion. That isn't science and it isn't skepticism.

[QUOTE=miller-time]Here is the problem. You let your philosophical enquiry die at the birth of the 20th century. Read Karl Popper and then you will understand the difference between skepticism and the popular conspiracy theory method.

Skepticism is not about accepting unwarranted questions, it is about questioning a claim. Conspiracy theorists make claims, they don't ask questions, they take random data points and find a pattern, and based on some correlation they make an assertion. That isn't science and it isn't skepticism.[/QUOTE]

Also the modern conspiracy person ( I won't use theorist) doesn't stop at that. They photoshop, they manipulate facts, they ignore facts, they alter audio/video files, they knowingly drag people that had nothing to do with an event into the event and on and on. These people are not investigating a conspiracy they are creating a conspiracy for their mindless followers

[QUOTE=Riddler]HOLY $HIT:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&bpctr=1358599990[/url]
[B]The Sandy Hook Shooting - Fully Exposed[/B]


[SIZE="5"]10,918,872 VIEWS[/SIZE]
[I]36,225 likes - 9,971 dislikes[/I]

These videos are going viral... That's a lot of views.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp[/url]

[QUOTE=daily][url]http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp[/url][/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, Those who need to won't read that.

[QUOTE=miller-time]Here is the problem. You let your philosophical enquiry die at the birth of the 20th century. Read Karl Popper and then you will understand the difference between skepticism and the popular conspiracy theory method.

Skepticism is not about asking unwarranted questions, it is about questioning a claim. Conspiracy theorists make claims, they don't ask questions, they take random data points and find a pattern, and based on some correlation they make an assertion. That isn't science and it isn't skepticism.[/QUOTE]


Great post, can you elaborate on what Popper says.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]What is wrong with conspiracy theories. They get so much hate, but it's so stupid because their method is skepticism.

This is why the educational system is so f*cked up: it only tells you how and what to think but it never tells you to question so call "facts." It even comes up with a made term "objectivity" to kill all sorts of skepticism.

Socrates was the father of philosophy because he simply said, "I don't know anything, so I will deny everything and keep looking for answers."

All these kids think they know everything because they are too stupid to think for themselves and need someone of authority to tell them how to think: if the teacher says it, it is true; if the media says it, it is true, if my parents, government, tradition, etc. says it is true, then it must be true.

You get the gist.

The smartest people I know are the ones who are always skeptical and asking questions.

[B]It is when you deny this or that and act like you already know it all is when you are acting stupid.[/B]

So f*ck the haters Riddler and keep on pondering for answers you feel aren't there. At least you can take solace in knowing you are not just a tool who believes whatever they are being told.[/QUOTE]

Their method isn't skepticism. Someone who's skeptical would take fantastical claims like this and do the 5 minutes of research or 10 seconds of logical thought to dismiss them. Conspiracy theorists like to call people sheep all the time but the truth is it takes a far more sheep like mentality to blindly follow this dumb ass claims. Be a skeptic to both sides here. I have yet to see one item in this whole CT that hasn't been thoroughly debunked. It makes me sad that so many people lack the critical thinking skills to see past all this, particularly when there are massive conspiracies likely going on in the world all the time.

[QUOTE=miller-time]Here is the problem. You let your philosophical enquiry die at the birth of the 20th century. Read Karl Popper and then you will understand the difference between skepticism and the popular conspiracy theory method.

Skepticism is not about asking unwarranted questions, it is about questioning a claim. Conspiracy theorists make claims, they don't ask questions, they take random data points and find a pattern, and based on some correlation they make an assertion. That isn't science and it isn't skepticism.[/QUOTE]

I know Popper; explain to me what is it in his method that is far superior to skepticism. As far as I am concern, Popper is only reiterating what skeptics have already known: even full proof facts and ideas can be disproven since everything starts with a theory, so objectivity in and of itself is a wrong premise, and if you truly understand Popper (which I highly doubt), you would admit he would support the position of a conspiracy hypothetical than accepting the "objective" reports of the media and law enforcement. [B]Your position is the exact contradiction to his philosophy of falsification.[/B]

This is the premise that you idiots (especially Nathanjizzle) are upholding based on a fallacious premise that appeals to emotions (we shouldn't even question because there are kids involved and it is not moral do so).

Conspiracy theory is just that: a theory. They don't make claims; they create hypotheticals and ask questions. It is the media that makes claims. A good conspiracy theory would only question these claims and not come to their own conclusions.

Keep in mind, I am aware of the fact there are bad conspiracy theories, but there are also good ones that don't claim to know anything other than to point out the discrepancies from the claims of the government, news media, etc.

[QUOTE=monkeypox]Their method isn't skepticism. Someone who's skeptical would take fantastical claims like this and do the 5 minutes of research or 10 seconds of logical thought to dismiss them. Conspiracy theorists like to call people sheep all the time but the truth is it takes a far more sheep like mentality to blindly follow this dumb ass claims. Be a skeptic to both sides here. I have yet to see one item in this whole CT that hasn't been thoroughly debunked. It makes me sad that so many people lack the critical thinking skills to see past all this, particularly when there are massive conspiracies likely going on in the world all the time.[/QUOTE]

What the f*ck research are you talking about ...

If I see a facebook page created 4 days prior to the death of one of the victims in the Sandy Hook shooting (Victoria Soto), then what further research do I have to undertake.

The page is there; the facts are there; and the only basic question I have to ask is, "Why was it created 4 days before she died."

I only merely questioned a claim. It is up to you anti-conspiracy nuts to explain to me why the page was created 4 days prior to the death of the person.

Till this day, none of you nerds can answer this simple basic question.

This is one example amongst a million I have.

[QUOTE=daily]Also the modern conspiracy person ( I won't use theorist) doesn't stop at that. They photoshop, they manipulate facts, they ignore facts, they alter audio/video files, they knowingly drag people that had nothing to do with an event into the event and on and on. These people are not investigating a conspiracy they are creating a conspiracy for their mindless followers[/QUOTE]

Well that is bullsh*t. There are news reports that do the same sh*t but they are not under the same scrutiny; in fact, normally they are accepted hook, line, and sinker.

Trust me, these conspiracy nuts aren't any worse than the media and government in creating hoaxes and distorting lies.

[B]The difference between them is at least the conspiracy theorists are trying to seek the truth (no matter how flawed) and the media and government are trying to distort the truth.[/B]

Their intentions are sound even though they might sound like idiots sometimes, but at least they are being skeptical and asking questions when they see an anomaly .. this seems to be a crime nowadays.

Skepticism is a lost art. [B]The start of modern thinking started (which lead to all the modern philosophies and sciences) when one man said the only thing he knew was he knew nothing and started denying everything the sheeps accepted as true just because someone of higher authority said so.[/B]

Food for thought.

[QUOTE=daily][url]http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp[/url][/QUOTE]

That is stupid.

His explanation for the facebook pages: by using date restricted pages on Google, one can find erroneous dates on articles for the Sandy Hook shootings.

Still bullsh*t. The evidence wasn't based on some stupid search but an actual facebook page created and then deleted when people began questioning.

You anti-conspiracy nuts will believe anything.

There are 3 types of people:

The Conspiracy Theorist: will look to tie links to form/fit their pre-determined theory.

The Debunkers: Will go into a situation looking to disprove conspiracy theorists.

Neutrals: Will be open minded and more willing to give each side an equal chance.

I feel that I try to be neutral. I've made mistakes in the past in blindly believing theories. But I understand that anything and everything can be possible. I know the history our government (and others around the world) has had, so they are not to be completely trusted, only a blind idiot will buy everything they tell us.

Now, who is to say that IF (again big IF) this is a hoax, that it's government sponsored?

There are big multi billion dollar companies that have a huge stake in all of this, they could be a part of this IF (big IF) this is a hoax of some sorts.

[QUOTE=daily][url]http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp[/url][/QUOTE]

Horrible line of rebuttals. I can't believe you will just accept any explanation without any skeptical thought put into it at all.

His explanation for the facebook pages: by using date restricted pages on Google, one can find erroneous dates on articles for the Sandy Hook shootings.

Still bullsh*t. The evidence wasn't based on some stupid search but an actual facebook page created and then deleted when people began questioning.

You anti-conspiracy nuts will believe anything.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]That is stupid.

His explanation for the facebook pages: by using date restricted pages on Google, one can find erroneous dates on articles for the Sandy Hook shootings.

Still bullsh*t. The evidence wasn't based on some stupid search but an actual facebook page created and then deleted when people began questioning.

You anti-conspiracy nuts will believe anything.[/QUOTE]

I'm a bit sleepy and tired at the moment, but I wasn't impressed with the supposed 'debunking'.

Again, I'll take another look when I'm not falling asleep.

Another stupid diversion and false reporting snopes.com stated:

Christopher Rodia, whose name can be heard on the police radio transmission was not the registered owner of the car Adam Lanza was driving.

If the cops have the license plate and clearly knows it by stating it in the transmission, then it is logical to assume they must know who the registered owner was simply by running the license plate.

The radio transmission clearly revealed the license plate and said it belonged to Adam Lanza when it was actually registered to Christopher Rodia.

This was not a mistake. Snopes.com is pulling whatever crap they can come up and they can get away with it since the anti-conspiracy nuts will accept any explanation hook, line, and sinker.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Conspiracy theory is just that: a theory. They don't make claims; they create hypotheticals and ask questions.[/quote]

WTF? People are harassing the people of Newtown because they think those people are actors. You and others like you are going well beyond merely asking questions and posting hypotheticals. You people go around claiming the media and gov't is lying about everything and hiding the truth. They claim that the government set up Sandy Hook so they could enforce gun control laws. They claim those people are crisis actors. They claim that there were webpages about the shootings before it ever happened. They claim the assault rifle was found in his trunk. Many claims have been made, but none have really been backed up.

[quote]This is one example amongst a million I have.[/quote]

What are the million bullshit claims that you have? What are you talking about with the Rodia thing?

[url]http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/sandy-hook-and-christopher-rodia-most-conspiracy-theorists-cant-think-2535800.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Jackass18]WTF? People are harassing the people of Newtown because they think those people are actors. You and others like you are going well beyond merely asking questions and posting hypotheticals. You people go around claiming the media and gov't is lying about everything and hiding the truth. They claim that the government set up Sandy Hook so they could enforce gun control laws. They claim those people are crisis actors. They claim that there were webpages about the shootings before it ever happened. They claim the assault rifle was found in his trunk. Many claims have been made, but none have really been backed up.[/quote]

Stop putting words in my mouth.

The only claim I will stand by is the Victoria Soto page. It was created 4 days prior to her death and conveniently deleted.

The only objective claims out there are by the media and law enforcements; all of those are hypotheticals. Look up the definition of a hypothetical dumbsh*t.

I even switched to 'They'. So, you haven't said anything about the government and media lying? You don't act like the media is against us? You're not on here pushing an agenda? You want to play some stupid semantics game to make it seem like you're merely being skeptical? You haven't said the people were actors? You say you're merely asking questions and yet you basically ignore any answer that doesn't fit with what you want.

Don't give me that bullshit when people are stating that the government set it all up, the media is lying and covering up the truth and a bunch of assholes are harassing the people of Newtown. Don't act like people aren't pushing an agenda. But whatever, keep on playing your little games.