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it wont last, people will eventually turn on him, like every young player
either the cavs improve, the team gets more exposure, and people see more than just highlights, and start to notice flaws (happened with griffin, when people started shitting on him for his jumper and freethrow issues. nobody cared about these in his rookie year ) or the cavs stay a cellar dwelling team, and people will say he puts up empty stats/ cant carry his to wins.
he is definitely my favorite player.... so +1
(and this is coming from a guy who thought he was a glorified Darren Collison in a crappy draft)
He's great player on a non-threatening team, easy to root for. The hate will come as soon as the Cavs become a legitimate playoff contender.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Yea, not really. They just play on way better teams. Teams that would make the playoffs without either Westbrick/Rose. Both are low-IQ point guards that rely 100% on athleticism. Neither guy will ever be a key play on a team that actually wins a championship.[/QUOTE]
SilkkTheShocker, AKA, known Rose hater, and known Lebron nut hugger.
I'll take your words with a grain of salt.
As people have said, Kyrie is too good to remain loved by everyone.
He looks pretty much destined for greatness... the more he reaches his potential, the more hate he will get.
hes a good player but brendalegend faps over his every move. omg i know he shot 5-17, but look at this layup he had :banana: and dont get me started on silk 'da brons son'. hes 14 yrs old and just started watching basketball 3 years ago :roll:
westbrook is easily better than him, because he is more complete. i sleep easy at night knowing brenda will troll
[QUOTE=imdaman99]hes a good player but brendalegend faps over his every move. omg i know he shot 5-17, but look at this layup he had :banana: and dont get me started on silk 'da brons son'. hes 14 yrs old and just started watching basketball 3 years ago :roll:
westbrook is easily better than him, because he is more complete. i sleep easy at night knowing brenda will troll[/QUOTE]
The funny part is that you can't post anything without saying my name :oldlol: You're like a lost little puppy that follows me around. Be good and I will give you a treat, little buddy :oldlol:
[QUOTE=tikay0]Because they're better than him. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Not according to the hyperbole:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8186283&postcount=86[/url]
Budaiii hates him for some reason
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]The funny part is that you can't post anything without saying my name :oldlol: You're like a lost little puppy that follows me around. Be good and I will give you a treat, little buddy :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
funny, i always see you quoting me. 14 yrs old is still 14 yrs old :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Not according to the hyperbole:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8186283&postcount=86[/url][/QUOTE]
That guy doesn't know what he's talking about :oldlol: Trade his whole team for a perennial loser. Shareef Abdur-Rahim comes to mind. Will go to all-star games, nice stats. But never make the playoffs as the star on the team. Injury prone too. Someone compared him to MJ, that MJ missed 50 games in his 2nd year. I was like what???? :roll: MJ did not miss his entire college basketball career as well
It happened in some players before.
I Remember the rookie year of Blake Griffin and Linsanity.
[QUOTE=imdaman99]That guy doesn't know what he's talking about :oldlol: Trade his whole team for a perennial loser. Shareef Abdur-Rahim comes to mind. Will go to all-star games, nice stats. But never make the playoffs as the star on the team. Injury prone too. Someone compared him to MJ, that MJ missed 50 games in his 2nd year. I was like what???? :roll: MJ did not miss his entire college basketball career as well[/QUOTE]
Post too stupid to respond to. You can bump this next year when Irving becomes the best PG, and few years later when Kyrie wins a ship.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Not according to the hyperbole:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8186283&postcount=86[/url][/QUOTE]
That is an utter fail. If he's so good, why the **** are the Cavs almost last in the East? The EAST!!!
[QUOTE=noob cake]Post too stupid to respond to. You can bump this next year when Irving becomes the best PG, and few years later when Kyrie wins a ship.[/QUOTE]
Kyrie aint winnin shit. Lets all wait and see what he does in the Playoffs. Oh that's right. He aint making it for at least 3-5 years. That's just sad.
[QUOTE=tikay0]That is an utter fail. If he's so good, why the **** are the Cavs 3rd from last place in the East? The EAST!!![/QUOTE]
Because basketball is a team sport? Are we playing tennis?
[QUOTE=tikay0]Kyrie aint winnin shit. Lets all wait and see what he does in the Playoffs. Oh that's right. He aint making it for at least 3-5 years. That's just sad.[/QUOTE]
LOL at this Rose fan boy talking s.hit. Rose went to a team that absolutely lucked into the 1st pick. The Bulls were a playoff team the season before and still had guys like Deng, Gordon, etc. You can't even compare the situations they were put in. All Rose will be known for is shooting 6% against LeBron and the worst choke in NCAA championship history :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Not according to the hyperbole:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8186283&postcount=86[/url][/QUOTE]
You also forgot to post up Rose's first ever playoff game stats. In Rose's first playoff game, he matched Kareem Abdul Jabaar's point total, and added 11 dimes on top of that.
36 PTs 11 Asssits
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Because basketball is a team sport? Are we playing tennis?[/QUOTE]
Rose homers are too stupid. Rose was gifted a playoff team. Irving was placed into the least talented team in the league after LeBron's abandonment.
Westbrook has Durant, Ibaka. Rose has Noah, Deng, Boozer. Irving has Gee, Zeller and Thompson :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
They always start out that way... it's the 3rd season that the haters usually find some bull$hit to b:tch about.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]LOL at this Rose fan boy talking s.hit. Rose went to a team that absolutely lucked into the 1st pick. The Bulls were a playoff team the season before and still had guys like Deng, Gordon, etc. You can't even compare the situations they were put in. All Rose will be known for is shooting 6% against LeBron and the worst choke in NCAA championship history :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
U mad that Chicago gets to enjoy every breathtaking moment of his career, on a nightly basis???
Where you from by the way?
[QUOTE=noob cake]Rose homers are too stupid. Rose was gifted a playoff team. Irving was placed into the least talented team in the league after LeBron's abandonment.
Westbrook has Durant, Ibaka. Rose has Noah, Deng, Boozer. Irving has Gee, Zeller and Thompson :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
I like how you didn't add Waiters, but OK.
If there was a draft that included all the top PG's, and pre injury Rose, it would be a landslide for Rose.
[QUOTE=noob cake]Post too stupid to respond to. You can bump this next year when Irving becomes the best PG, and few years later when Kyrie wins a ship.[/QUOTE]
But I thought "Irving has already charted a journey of greatness that Derrick Rose will never touch."...
Why does he need to win a chip, if that's the case ? :confusedshrug:
When Kyrie gets 36 pts. and 11 assists in his first ever playoff game, then I'll be impressed. Until then, I think the kid is a really good talent, but not on Rose/Westbrook's level.
He's great. He will def be better than Westbrook. Kyrie was a smarter player than Westbrook even before he was in the nba. He may reach roses level and exceed it, but its not certain yet.
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]People love one dimensional players on lottery teams.
More respected posters like myself enjoy guys who do whatever it takes to get that W. You can worship his crossovers and "smooth" play...
and piss yourself over his moist jumpshot...
while I'm in the back corner with a hard-on for guys like Westbrook who give it their all EVERY game and do whatever it takes to win. Even if that means avoiding the spotlight to do so.[/QUOTE]
Can this be automatically moved to the "Dumbest Thing I've Ever Read on ISH"? Is there an auto button?
basketball is less a team sport than the other 2 major sports aka football and baseball. one dominant player CAN carry a team to the playoffs. maybe a dominant QB can do the same, but baseball and football are definitely more team oriented. if this guy doesnt turn the cavs into winners next year, than sorry dudes he is clearly overrated.
oh wow have you seen his handles? oh wow have you seen how he switches hands in the air?
:lebronamazed:
[QUOTE=tikay0]You also forgot to post up Rose's first ever playoff game stats. In Rose's first playoff game, he matched Kareem Abdul Jabaar's point total, and added 11 dimes on top of that.
36 PTs 11 Asssits[/QUOTE]
U a Dumb A--. Seriously.
People absolutely love Derrick Rose; he's a freaking stud. You would ONLY hate on Irving with stupid crap you've posted because you are worried that Irving is closing in on him as best in the league.
Literally HUNDREDS of NBA stars have toiled through their early years on bad teams.
Stop being stupid - if that's possible. There's not one true NBA fan who is posing a Rose vs Irving battle. They are both great players in different circumstances.
Some posts on this site are just amazing...
The internet loves you when your team is shit and not a threat to their own squad
[QUOTE=HiphopRelated]The internet loves you when your team is shit and not a threat to their own squad[/QUOTE]
This :cheers:
Don't feed the trolls.
[QUOTE=sixer6ad]U a Dumb A--. Seriously.
People absolutely love Derrick Rose; he's a freaking stud. You would ONLY hate on Irving with stupid crap you've posted because you are worried that Irving is closing in on him as best in the league.
Literally HUNDREDS of NBA stars have toiled through their early years on bad teams.
Stop being stupid - if that's possible. There's not one true NBA fan who is posing a Rose vs Irving battle. They are both great players in different circumstances.
Some posts on this site are just amazing...[/QUOTE]
I wasn't even responding to you. I was responding to the jack ass that thinks Irving is already as good as Rose.
[QUOTE=tikay0]You also forgot to post up Rose's first ever playoff game stats. In Rose's first playoff game, he matched Kareem Abdul Jabaar's point total, and added 11 dimes on top of that.
36 PTs 11 Asssits[/QUOTE]
Facts hurt
[QUOTE=noob cake]Rose homers are too stupid. Rose was gifted a playoff team. Irving was placed into the least talented team in the league after LeBron's abandonment.
Westbrook has Durant, Ibaka. Rose has Noah, Deng, Boozer. Irving has Gee, Zeller and Thompson :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]Gifteda playoff team? Yes they made the playoffs as an 8th seed two years in a row and the second time they barely made it with two consecutive .500 records.
Let's not act like Rose was drafted to a playoff powerhouse. Stop it. Also, Noah wasn't even the player he is now, back then. He broke out in the Celtics series, but before then he was kind of a bust. Boozer wasn't on that team and he had Brad Miller, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon and John Salmons who sucked for the duration of his Bulls career.
Love how you guys like to leave those things out.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]But I thought "Irving has already charted a journey of greatness that Derrick Rose will never touch."...
Why does he need to win a chip, if that's the case ? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
This.
As a Rose fan, I have nothing against the kid. He's an awesome player and will be for a very long time. But now he's getting the Rondo 2009-10 treatment until Rose just completely outplayed him in damn near every head to head game they played.
[QUOTE=sixer6ad]U a Dumb A--. Seriously.
People absolutely love Derrick Rose; he's a freaking stud. You would ONLY hate on Irving with stupid crap you've posted because you are worried that Irving is closing in on him as best in the league.
Literally HUNDREDS of NBA stars have toiled through their early years on bad teams.
Stop being stupid - if that's possible. There's not one true NBA fan who is posing a Rose vs Irving battle. They are both great players in different circumstances.
Some posts on this site are just amazing.[/QUOTE]On this site Rose has been getting hate even before he played a game in the league. They are always trying to prop someone up as better than Rose, which is fine, but they don't give Rose credit when he goes out and shits on said player. They just say it was his team.
We are used tot this, but Kyrie is getting the same exact hype and that's not fair to him.
Having haters is the true sign of being a superstar.
Chicago fans, enjoy your post ACL-injury Rose.
\cake out
[QUOTE=noob cake]Having haters is the true sign of being a superstar.
Chicago fans, enjoy your post ACL-injury Rose.
\cake out[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Glide2keva]This.
As a Rose fan, I have nothing against the kid. He's an awesome player and will be for a very long time. But now he's getting the Rondo 2009-10 treatment until Rose just completely outplayed him in damn near every head to head game they played.[/QUOTE]
He's had a great year, and a once-in-a-lifetime week last week (All Star, Player of the Week, 36 ppg) and he's getting some props. Sorry that he grabbed some headlines away from "Rose is in full contact at practice".
You should not feel threatened if you know Rose's game that well. He is an absolute stud and has to look up to nobody. I bet he's not this jealous of Kyrie's fabulous game.
Sucks for the true Cavs fans. Had to go through all the LeBron fanboys who left the second he did and now you'll probably be filled with Kyrie fanboys that will draw hate :lol
noob cake and brandonislegend leading the way.