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[QUOTE=Smoke117]A defensive anchor in a team not even in the top 15 teams defensively: :applause: :applause: :applause: fuuuucking impressive.[/QUOTE]
The Knicks have been riddled with injuries all season. They've had like 3 or 4 different starting PFs and their backcourt has been decimated. Just look at what their defense did last year when Chandler won DPOY.
[QUOTE=jalbert009]Chandler
Gasol
Parker
G.Wallace
J.Johnson
R.Jefferson
J.Richardson
Zach Randolph
Shane Battier
Some good players in this draft.[/QUOTE]
None of those were ever franchise players. So yeah, that was a shitty draft class when you're looking at Top 3 picks to be franchise players. Gasol was close in Memphis but never won a single playoff game there and Randolph was a black hole for much of hid career until the last couple of seasons.
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]The Knicks have been riddled with injuries all season. They've had like 3 or 4 different starting PFs and their backcourt has been decimated. J[B]ust look at what their defense did last year when Chandler won DPOY.[/B][/QUOTE]
Let's be reasonable, that's a lot to ask of a Knicks hater.
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]The man is a champion (was a big factor in DAL winning, look at them since he left and look at NY especially defensively), reigning DPOY, and was just named an all star. He's currently putting up 12 PPG (while leading the league in FG%), 11 RPG, and is the defensive anchor on a high seed playoff squad.
This is a silly thread.[/QUOTE]
They blew up the whole Mavs team, Terry gone, Kidd gone, DeShawn is gone, Novak is gone, and lots of others. Dirk knee.
You can't blame Dallas collapse because Tyson Chandler left, by no means.
All-Star means zip. Fans vote for who they like, not who plays, look at Yao Ming for simple proof.
I ain't bashing Tyson, he's one of the best centers in the NBA. But none of what you said is valid reasons except for he's tough D anchor on a playoff squad so far this year.
Sure. Why not? This is ISH, where championship defensive anchors and DPoYs are draft busts.
He was an important part of a championship team so I would say he is not a bust.
Sure. Why not? This is ISH, where championship defensive anchors, Olympic gold medalists and DPoYs are draft busts.
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:lol awesome gif. Once a Chandlerkarp. Now a Tysarados :rockon:
[QUOTE=9512]If Tyson Chandler is a bust, then what would Kwame be called?[/QUOTE]
The BOAT
20 rebounds for the first time since 2008.
....
I <3 Tyson Chandler
[QUOTE=Bandito]qft.
Bust could be someone that didn't pan out due to suckage. I would cosider Olowakandi a bust but it could be argued that he wasn't. It depends on the case, a guy that was chosen as a lottery pick but has average less than 10 minutes on garbage minutes now that is considered a bust. Kwame was severely overrated but he has been a solid role player.[/QUOTE]
Yes you could say that they were solid role players but to be drafted as high as they were, wouldn't you say that they were a bust or a huge disappointment? If they were drafted say 16-30 then there wouldn't be any hate towards them.
[QUOTE=BlackWhiteGreen]I don't think it's a ridiculous question at all. Is Emeka Okafor a bust? 12/10 career averages, always played on bad teams. If he "gets it" and becomes the defensive anchor on a contender, does that excuse the 9 years of "meh" he's served up so far?[/QUOTE]
Thank you. Finally someone who gets what I was thinking. Yes Chandler has achieved so much in the past 3 years but do we just forget about the other 9 years of his career where he didn't live up to the expectations of being a number 2 pick? He didnt even average double digit rebounds until his 6th season or double digit points until his 7th season.
[QUOTE=eliteballer]People act like every year the top 5 picks should be franchise players and the top 10 at least all-stars...
Well, that's not reality. There simply isn't that kind of talent to go around. People need to adjust expectations.
He's not a bust. He's arguably the best defensive center in the L and gets you double digit boards. Thats extremely valuable.[/QUOTE]
You are exactly right. So if a team uses their no. 2 pick on a player who ends up being a role player for the their whole career would you consider them a bust or a disappointment? and btw, Chandler didn't become elite until 3 years ago. How about the 9 years before that? does he get a pass?
[QUOTE=Doranku]If Chandler is a bust, what does that make Beasley? :wtf:[/QUOTE]
People are labeling Beasley a bust now if I'm not mistaken. If he continues the way he is now and somehow makes the all star team 5 years from now do we forget all of a sudden he was a bust?
Basically the point of this thread really is when do we call someone a bust and I used Chandler's career as an example. IMO i would have called Chandler a Bust up until 3 years ago and thought that he was a waste of a no. 2 pick. Since he joined the Mavs and anchored their defense he changed my perception of him.
20 rebounds in 3 consecutive games. What a god damn bust.
Tyson Chandler just did something in rebounding for the Knicks that Ewing never did. That's impressive.
No he is not a bust. Tyson was drafted off potential. Alot of those guys were including Kwame, Eddy,& The Kandyman. Gm's had hope they would be good. But someone like Beasley who was expected to be atleast good, just looks likes a decent 6th man. Beasley is the defintion of bust, not Tyson.
[QUOTE=Cladyclad]No he is not a bust. Tyson was drafted off potential. Alot of those guys were including Kwame, Eddy,& The Kandyman. Gm's had hope they would be good. But someone like Beasley who were expected to be atleast good just likes a decent 6th man. Beasley is the defintion of bust, not Tyson.[/QUOTE]
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