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[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]
driver might have been some college kid...made a horrible mistake, like all kids do
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He made a mistake and he paid for it, like those 2 kids paid for his mistake also. Pretty simple stuff.
Careless mistake, wow how retarded can one person be.
I have to imagine texting and driving is a much harder statistic to determine at times though. Regardless, I few both as being unacceptable.
[url]http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html[/url]
theres a table in the link
texting deaths (which are GROWING) are about to overtake drunk driving deaths (which are shrinking)
[QUOTE=mrpuente][url]http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html[/url]
theres a table in the link[/QUOTE]
that's 2009, it's below 10,000 a year now
it's been going down every year for decades
here you go
[URL="http://www.madd.org/blog/2012/december/drunk-driving-fatalities-fall.html"]Drunk Driving Fatalities Fall Below 10,000[/URL]
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]lol, knew PT'd be in here trying to argue drunk driving ain't no thang[/QUOTE]
yeah that's what I'm doing :rolleyes:
About two years ago when I bought my smartphone and opened the packaging, there was a screen guard that said "Don't Text and Drive". I was like damn there must be too many people killin each other while texting for companies to be warning against it like that.
[QUOTE=Kungfro]I have to imagine texting and driving is a much harder statistic to determine at times though. Regardless, I few both as being unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
it isn't as hard as you would think...you can see when texts are being sent and recieved on the phone
if someone is just reading and not sending anything that might be harder...also easier to forgive
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]texting deaths (which are GROWING) are about to overtake drunk driving deaths (which are shrinking)[/QUOTE]
So which is more rare?
[QUOTE=mrpuente]So which is more rare?[/QUOTE]
neither are rare
right now it looks like drunk-driving is around 9k a year and text-driving around 4k...just my guesses based on the current trends and directions, I can't find 2012 numbers, just 2011
I bet in 5 years they will be about equal
good job to the 2 jackasses arguing about random bullshit in a thread about something completely different. Why dont u 2 exchange phone numbers so you can have make up phone sex later
[url]http://duimap.org/[/url]
^^^ that is awesome, you can see where the hot spots for DUI deaths are in your city, so you know where not to be on Friday and Saturday nights
[QUOTE=OhNoTimNoSho]good job to the 2 jackasses arguing about random bullshit in a thread about something completely different. Why dont u 2 exchange phone numbers so you can have make up phone sex later[/QUOTE]
we were comparing texting deaths to drunk deaths which does relate but here you go my man:
[IMG]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5umn1OMCT1qcp6dg.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]pedafile[/QUOTE]
Sorry, while I was eating my dinner, looking back on my day, it dawned on me how badly you misspelled this word.
Yes, I'm a douche.
Carry on.
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]we were comparing texting deaths to drunk deaths which does relate but here you go my man:
[IMG]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5umn1OMCT1qcp6dg.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Im sure i can loosely relate kevin bacon to the original article too
[QUOTE=OhNoTimNoSho]Im sure i can loosely relate kevin bacon to the original article too[/QUOTE]
and if you did I wouldn't care...in fact I'd like to see it, might be lolzy
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]it isn't that simple...the person is drunk[/QUOTE]
That is f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking bulls[COLOR="Black"]h[/COLOR]it. It's called being accountable, proactive and responsible.
I've been shitfaced out of my mind with keys in my hand and my truck not far away. Never thought about driving. One time I even put the seats down and passed out in the back.
If you're going out, have a plan to get out of there safely. Walk. Get a taxi. Designated driver. Or don't drink. Before you start drinking, you're sober and perfectly capable of making the decision not to drink.
If you get drunk and drive a car that crashes and kills someone, it should be 20 years jail minimum.
Imagine the guilt you'd have if you were drunk and killed 2 innocent children. At the same time, it doesn't mean you deserve to be executed that way. I'm not going to sit here and lie. I have driven drunk on two occasions. Then my sister who works at Memorial Hermann Hospital took me to her job and showed me a kid who was brain dead from a drunk driving accident. That was four years ago. Since then, I have never touched a car after drinking and I always advice my friends to avoid it also.
[QUOTE=G-train]Dumb move by dad.
Should have waited a few months, or even years before doing it.[/QUOTE]
Not bad at all by dad. I mean if some dude ever kills some person I love in front of me, I would do the same thing. It's a thing of passion. You're not thinking at that point; it is stupid to suggest you are rational; you act on impulse and if that impulse is revenge, then there is nothing a person can do to act otherwise.
No one is going to think "Oh I'm going to kill this dude 6 months later when he goes to Reno and stays at the Ritz," the impulse is telling him to act right now and quickly.
If I was in that situation, I would prob do the same thing; I'm not better than him.
[QUOTE=ihoopallday]Imagine the guilt you'd have if you were drunk and killed 2 innocent children. At the same time, it doesn't mean you deserve to be executed that way. I'm not going to sit here and lie. I have driven drunk on two occasions. Then my sister who works at Memorial Hermann Hospital took me to her job and showed me a kid who was brain dead from a drunk driving accident. That was four years ago. Since then, I have never touched a car after drinking and I always advice my friends to avoid it also.[/QUOTE]
What part of Houston is your sister from/does she live in?
I hope that 5 seconds that probably felt incredibly good after shooting that kid made it worth the next 20+ years he's going to spending in jail for a hommy :facepalm
i would have done the same if my son was killed and i had a gun.
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]neither are rare
right now it looks like drunk-driving is around 9k a year and text-driving around 4k...just my guesses based on the current trends and directions, I can't find 2012 numbers, just 2011
I bet in 5 years they will be about equal[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: youre so spoiled you can never admit to be wrong.
let me rephrase
Which happens less often?
[QUOTE=Balla_Status]That is f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking bulls[COLOR="Black"]h[/COLOR]it. It's called being accountable, proactive and responsible.
I've been shitfaced out of my mind with keys in my hand and my truck not far away. Never thought about driving. One time I even put the seats down and passed out in the back.
If you're going out, have a plan to get out of there safely. Walk. Get a taxi. Designated driver. Or don't drink. Before you start drinking, you're sober and perfectly capable of making the decision not to drink.[/QUOTE]
I agree.
The USA is way too lenient with drunk drivers. Back in my college days, one of my roomates went out driving while blacked out drunk one night, and ended up rear ending a parked car, ultimately resulting in a DUI. The guy was completely blacked out, he did not remember a single thing from the entire arrest. He could have EASILY killed an entire family that night, yet he was back on the road after a few months. His "punishment" was going to diversion classes once a week for a few months (he described it as "group drug therapy") and pay a few thousand dollars worth of fines and fees. After that it was like nothing ever happened, he said that he even managed to get it completely wiped from his driving record, so if a cop runs his plates they dont see DUI in their search results.
All that said, I dont think we should just start executing drunk drivers on the spot. I can certainly see why a father would react like this in the heat of the moment, but the father should have just let the driver be arrested.
2nd late edit: also, this is one of the very few threads in ISH OTC history where I agree with hawker. crazy that it takes drunk driving to see eye to eye on something.
[QUOTE=Balla_Status]That is f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking bulls[COLOR="Black"]h[/COLOR]it. It's called being accountable, proactive and responsible.
I've been shitfaced out of my mind with keys in my hand and my truck not far away. Never thought about driving. One time I even put the seats down and passed out in the back.
If you're going out, have a plan to get out of there safely. Walk. Get a taxi. Designated driver. Or don't drink. Before you start drinking, you're sober and perfectly capable of making the decision not to drink.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree
[QUOTE=The Macho Man]Ugly ass family[/QUOTE]
lmao what an ass
of course the guy went overboard and yes i do think D&Ding is a "mistake". But its hard to imagine the guy watching his 2 young sons helping push his car in the dark cause of his mistake (running out of gas?) only to get mowed over by a drunk driver. in his situation, armed with a gun its hard to blame him
PT defending drunk driving, nice.
Isn't there something called temporary insanity? I've heard it in movies and such. I think this would certainly qualify.
[QUOTE=mrpuente]:oldlol: youre so spoiled you can never admit to be wrong.
let me rephrase
Which happens less often?[/QUOTE]
Deaths caused by texting happen less often...whats your point though? It doesnt mean its rare or any less significant
[QUOTE=iamgine]Isn't there something called temporary insanity? I've heard it in movies and such. I think this would certainly qualify.[/QUOTE]
Are you even allowed to drive with a gun on you?
[QUOTE=Balla_Status]That is f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking bulls[COLOR="Black"]h[/COLOR]it. It's called being accountable, proactive and responsible.
I've been shitfaced out of my mind with keys in my hand and my truck not far away. Never thought about driving. One time I even put the seats down and passed out in the back.
If you're going out, have a plan to get out of there safely. Walk. Get a taxi. Designated driver. Or don't drink. Before you start drinking, you're sober and perfectly capable of making the decision not to drink.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever blacked out? Serious question
The night I got my DWI I don't remember, I was told a cop was helping someone on the side if the road and he had to dive out of the way because I almost hit him. When they chased me down and pulled me over I was told I had a champagne bottle in my lap, opened...I was too drunk to even know to hide it.
Had I killed that cop is be in prison for life...and I was in a state of mind where I didn't know my own name, I was blackout drunk.
I'm not defending drunk driving in here, it is a crime and should go punished, but the truth is many of these people are making poor decisions because they are drunk....they probably did several retarded things that night that they would never do while sober.
oh, you dont remember, thats ok then.
[QUOTE=stalf]oh, you dont remember, thats ok then.[/QUOTE]
did you read me say "that's ok"?
[QUOTE=Nanners]The USA is way too lenient with drunk drivers. Back in my college days, one of my roomates went out driving while blacked out drunk one night, and ended up rear ending a parked car, ultimately resulting in a DUI. The guy was completely blacked out, he did not remember a single thing from the entire arrest. He could have EASILY killed an entire family that night, yet he was back on the road after a few months. His "punishment" was going to diversion classes once a week for a few months (he described it as "group drug therapy") and pay a few thousand dollars worth of fines and fees. After that it was like nothing ever happened, he said that he even managed to get it completely wiped from his driving record, so if a cop runs his plates they dont see DUI in their search results.
All that said, I dont think we should just start executing drunk drivers on the spot. I can certainly see why a father would react like this in the heat of the moment, but the father should have just let the driver be arrested.
2nd late edit: also, this is one of the very few threads in ISH OTC history where I agree with hawker. crazy that it takes drunk driving to see eye to eye on something.[/QUOTE]
What should his punishment have been then for making a bad decision while in a state of mind that he could only make bad decisions?
seriously?...what should have happened to him?...was this his first time?
US has the 3 strike rule, and I like that...you get a free pass your first time (still costs you around $10k though), which could be set off by something as small as 3 beers...then after that if you show to be a someone that has a chronic problem with it they just put you away.
manslaughter is prison no matter how many strikes you have...
I mean do you think you should get prison time for your first DUI?...that is fair?
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Have you ever blacked out? Serious question
The night I got my DWI I don't remember, I was told a cop was helping someone on the side if the road and he had to dive out of the way because I almost hit him. When they chased me down and pulled me over I was told I had a champagne bottle in my lap, opened...I was too drunk to even know to hide it.
Had I killed that cop is be in prison for life...and I was in a state of mind where I didn't know my own name, I was blackout drunk.
I'm not defending drunk driving in here, it is a crime and should go punished, but the truth is many of these people are making poor decisions because they are drunk....they probably did several retarded things that night that they would never do while sober.[/QUOTE]
Getting retarded drunk leads to trouble most of the time.. It's usually harmless shit like splitting your knee on the sidewalk or banging a fat chick and getting ripped on by your buddies later.. But it always leads to risky behavior because you don't give a fvck when you get to that level.
But you KNOW that before you start the nights journey. You chose to drink and not control yourself properly when you knew where it would all lead.. Since you probably drove drunk before that as well. And just because your drunk driving didn't lead to bad things a bunch of times doesn't mean shit.. It's like a burglar getting away with stealing a bunch of times. Crime whether you're caught or not.
[QUOTE=ace23]What part of Houston is your sister from/does she live in?[/QUOTE]
All I remember from when I last visited was there was this long road called Kirby Drive. She lives in that area. Can't wait to go back!