Magic and Skip say Jordan would beat Lebron 10 out of 10 one v one

[QUOTE=tikay0]Ummm....he gaurded Pau Gasol for like 3 possessions. The ability to guard a player for a few possesions don't necessarily mean you can guard that position.

Tell me when he consistently guards the opposing team's big men. HE HASN'T.

That's the biggest myth that BSPN has put out there.

Yes, technically he can guard all 5 positions, but that doesn't mean he's effective at it.

Magic Johnson played center for a game in the Finals. Does that make him one of the great centers of all time?

Floyd Mayweather can fight the Klitschko brothers, does it mean he'll be effective?[/QUOTE]
Lebron guards 1-4 all the ****ing time. Watch some Heat game dumbass

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Didn't Jordan get his dad killed because of gambling debts?[/QUOTE]
Didn't Delonte West fckk LBJ's mom?

i really hate to disagree with magic and skip right here but lebron would quit after the very first game.

[QUOTE=TheMan]Didn't Delonte West fckk LBJ's mom?[/QUOTE]
Very relevant again. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=LikeABosh]Lebron guards 1-4 all the ****ing time. Watch some Heat game dumbass[/QUOTE]

He guards a SF for the majority of the game, then guards a PG/PF when the defensive rotation calls for it. He doesn't start out guarding the 1-5.

"DUMB ASS"

And please don't give me the "he guards Rose!" BS. He guards him at the very end of games, for like 2 possessions, and the media creams their pants over it.

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Kobe Still thinks he Could beat Lebron Now one v 1 or at least tells Media I think Lebron would beat if not Destroy Kobe one v 1..Since Kobe is the Closest thing to Jordan Tells me Lebron would at least hang in there with Jordan.[/QUOTE]

Remember also that at 49 Jordan is still beating current NBA players one on one.

[QUOTE=tikay0]He guards a SF for the majority of the game, then guards a PG/PF when the defensive rotation calls for it. He doesn't start out guarding the 1-5.

"DUMB ASS"

And please don't give me the "he guards Rose!" BS. He guards him at the very end of games, for like 2 possessions, and the media creams their pants over it.[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=tikay0]Ummm....he gaurded Pau Gasol for like 3 possessions. The ability to guard a player for a few possesions don't necessarily mean you can guard that position.

Tell me when he consistently guards the opposing team's big men. HE HASN'T.

That's the biggest myth that BSPN has put out there.

Yes, technically he can guard all 5 positions, but that doesn't mean he's effective at it.

[b]Magic Johnson played center for a game in the Finals. Does that make him one of the great centers of all time?[/b]

Floyd Mayweather can fight the Klitschko brothers, does it mean he'll be effective?

Edit: Rodman and Pippen are MUCH better defenders than Lebron.

:biggums: :wtf: :facepalm[/QUOTE]
[quote]In game 6, Magic Johnson played what may have been the greatest game of his career. Playing on the road in Philadelphia, Magic (a 6'9" point guard) started the game at center and eventually played all 5 positions in a dominating performance. Scoring a game-high 42 points and grabbing a game-high 15 rebounds

[QUOTE=tikay0]He guards a SF for the majority of the game, then guards a PG/PF when the defensive rotation calls for it. He doesn't start out guarding the 1-5.

"DUMB ASS"

And please don't give me the "he guards Rose!" BS. He guards him at the very end of games, for like 2 possessions, and the media creams their pants over it.[/QUOTE]
Rose shot [B]1 for 15[/B] while guarded by Lebron in the last 2 games of the series

[QUOTE=LikeABosh]Rose shot [B]1 for 15[/B] while guarded by Lebron in the last 2 games of the series[/QUOTE]

THAT WAS A TEAM EFFORT. The defensive rotations the Heat were throwing SOLELY at Rose were amazingly fast. AKA, they loaded up on Rose.

I'll give you guys credit. Your defensive rotations are something to marvel at.

[QUOTE=LikeABosh]Rose shot [B]1 for 15[/B] while guarded by Lebron in the last 2 games of the series[/QUOTE]
Rose shot horribly the whole series though. As a Bulls fan, those are growing pains for a youngster like Rose. LBJ, regarded as the best player in the game the last few years, had to wait almost a decade to get his first NBA title.

[QUOTE=jstern]Remember also that at 49 Jordan is still beating current NBA players one on one.[/QUOTE]


If he played Lebron Right now LEbron would Dismantle him if not for the fact Lebron is too nice of a guy and would not do that to one of his biggest Idols. I bet Lebron is Secretly hurt by Jordan's recent statements but it also should fuel him to keep being Great and keep on winning.

[QUOTE=tikay0]THAT WAS A TEAM EFFORT. The defensive rotations the Heat were throwing SOLELY at Rose were amazingly fast. AKA, they loaded up on Rose.

I'll give you guys credit. Your defensive rotations are something to marvel at.[/QUOTE]
GTFO of here. First you say Lebron only guarded Rose for "like 2 possesion" now you say Rose shot so badly only because of a "team effort" Rewatch those games if you want, Rose was helpless while Lebron was on him. Couldn't get around him, struggled to even get passes of. Lebron tore Rose a new asshole. Get over it.

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]If he played Lebron Right now LEbron would Dismantle him if not for the fact Lebron is too nice of a guy and would not do that to one of his biggest Idols. I bet Lebron is Secretly hurt by Jordan's recent statements but it also should fuel him to keep being Great and keep on winning.[/QUOTE]

Did you even hear the full context of the interview? He never even said Kobe was the better player. He said, right now, I take Lebron, he's been the most dominant player in the game. As for their careers, gotta go with Kobe, because of the rings. The media is just hyping that interview up.

[QUOTE=TheMan]Rose shot horribly the whole series though. As a Bulls fan, those are growing pains for a youngster like Rose. LBJ, regarded as the best player in the game the last few years, had to wait almost a decade to get his first NBA title.[/QUOTE]
The league MVP, lightning quick point guard, who gets to the basket at will shoots 1 for 15 vs Lebron and it's growing pains? :roll:

[QUOTE=TheMan]Rose shot horribly the whole series though. As a Bulls fan, those are growing pains for a youngster like Rose. LBJ, regarded as the best player in the game the last few years, had to wait almost a decade to get his first NBA title.[/QUOTE]


And just like your Idol Jordan this could be the Beginning of the end for the rest of the league for years to come. Lebron might win the next 4 or 5 in a row now that he knows what it takes and knows he is the best in the game just like MJ. Knowing He will be judged by Titles will Fuel Lebron to keep being great and hungry.

[QUOTE=LikeABosh]GTFO of here. First you say Lebron only guarded Rose for "like 2 possesion" now you say Rose shot so badly only because of a "team effort" Rewatch those games if you want, Rose was helpless while Lebron was on him. Couldn't get around him, struggled to even get passes of. Lebron tore Rose a new asshole. Get over it.[/QUOTE]

Rose, ONLY PLAYER ABLE TO CREATE HIS OWN OFFENSE ON COURT. HENCE, USED UP LIKE AN OLD SOCK BY THE ECF.

Lebron, WADE AND BOSH TO TAKE ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIM. HENCE, HE'S A LITTLE BITCH WITH 2 OTHER STARS HAVING HIS BACK.

:facepalm

The Bulls and Celtics fans will always be butthurt because of what has been happening to them last 2 years.

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]And just like your Idol Jordan this could be the Beginning of the end for the rest of the league for years to come. Lebron might win the next 4 or 5 in a row now that he knows what it takes and knows he is the best in the game just like MJ. Knowing He will be judged by Titles will Fuel Lebron to keep being great and hungry.[/QUOTE]

The only thing that fuels Lebron is by having people love him, and having all the media attention.

He aint no hungry, killer like you guys dream he'd be.

STOP IT. :no:

[QUOTE=tikay0]THAT WAS A TEAM EFFORT. The defensive rotations the Heat were throwing SOLELY at Rose were amazingly fast. AKA, they loaded up on Rose.

I'll give you guys credit. Your defensive rotations are something to marvel at.[/QUOTE]
This

The Heat's whole focus was on Rose. Pretty tough to beat a team when all their focus is on one player and nobody else could create their own shot to lessen the load. LBJ fans should know this, LBJ was owned by the Spurs in 07. Part of the reason LBJ hooked with Wade, he needed someone else who could burden some of the load.

Rose needs to get his 'Wade', per s

Lebron can guard 1-3 and some 4's. He cannot guard Gasol with regularity...at least not when Gasol played like he had balls.


Shane Battier was the Heat's PF early in the season. Lebron was not playing PF. He was playing his position and making up for the rebounding issues. But he was not playing PF, nor was he guarding the other PF. Shane Battier is a 3 who can play some 2 and not a PF. He was literally getting abused early in the season and Lebron was playing the 3. That's not to say Lebron was selfish or that he should have guarded the opposing 4's. But he didn't, despite him being much better suited to guarding 4's than Battier is. Lebron has the body for anyone. He wasn't guarding 4's because it's not his game. He can tho, if he's asked too. But it's exaggerated when people say he does it game to game.

[QUOTE=tikay0]Rose, ONLY PLAYER ABLE TO CREATE HIS OWN OFFENSE ON COURT. HENCE, USED UP LIKE AN OLD SOCK BY THE ECF.

Lebron, WADE AND BOSH TO TAKE ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIM. HENCE, HE'S A LITTLE BITCH WITH 2 OTHER STARS HAVING HIS BACK.

:facepalm[/QUOTE]


so Rose was the only guy that could create his own shot, yet you fail to mention LeBron was the only guy who could create his own shot in the 09 ECF. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=tikay0]Did you even hear the full context of the interview? He never even said Kobe was the better player. He said, right now, I take Lebron, he's been the most dominant player in the game. As for their careers, gotta go with Kobe, because of the rings. The media is just hyping that interview up.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I heard that part but also heard comments of saying only 4 players would be successful in yesterdays NBA. He also said Lebron would NOT be as Dominant and almost Laughed at notion of Lebron being compared to Oscar Robertson. MJ is still the GOAT however I think all the Lebron talk and Hype has made him a bit uneasy thus needing to knock him down a peg or two to make himself look and feel better. I grew up watching MJ and that NBA and I know Lebron would be just as good than that he is now.

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]so Rose was the only guy that could create his own shot, yet you fail to mention LeBron was the only guy who could create his own shot in the 09 ECF. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

AGAINST THE MAGIC!!! BAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

AND THEY LOST! :applause:

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Yeah I heard that part but also heard comments of saying only 4 players would be successful in yesterdays NBA. He also said Lebron would NOT be as Dominant and almost Laughed at notion of Lebron being compared to Oscar Robertson. MJ is still the GOAT however I think all the Lebron talk and Hype has made him a bit uneasy thus needing to knock him down a peg or two to make himself look and feel better. I grew up watching MJ and that NBA and I know Lebron would be just as good than that he is now.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough, but the way you come at people, make it seem like you think LBJ would dominate Kareem/MJ/Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt all in one night.

Just tone it down a bit with the over bearing LBJ homerism.

[QUOTE=tikay0]Fair enough, but the way you come at people, make it seem like you think LBJ would dominate Kareem/MJ/Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt all in one night.

Just tone it down a bit with the over bearing LBJ homerism.[/QUOTE]


I hear ya but some of these Kobe stand/Lebron Haters make me get that level at times.

[QUOTE=LikeABosh]The league MVP, lightning quick point guard, who gets to the basket at will shoots 1 for 15 vs Lebron and it's growing pains? :roll:[/QUOTE]
Well, he did hurt his ankle during the Pacers series that slowed him down. Didn't LBJ complain about his elbow during the Celtics series he lost? If LBJ can use that as an excuse, I see no reason why Rose shouldn't also (he hasn't).

I will absolutly say growing pains, we all here cut LBJ some slack for his performance against the Spurs in 07, he was a young guy first time that deep in the playoffs vs a veteran team. Or would you perfer us to say LBJ has laid in egg twice in the Finals and come up big once?

Most people here cut LBJ some slack for 07, (youth, inexperience, overmatched) even though he stunk.

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]I hear ya but some of these Kobe stand/Lebron Haters make me get that level at times.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, same here. The Rose haters get me to my boiling point too.

[QUOTE=tikay0]AGAINST THE MAGIC!!! BAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

AND THEY LOST! :applause:[/QUOTE]


Whats it matter if it was against the Magic? They had the next best 3 players after Lebron in the series. Finally you admit that Cleveland team had no shot creators

Depends on a few things:

- Game rules. Make it, take it? This is the kind of game that could come down to who misses first

- Can Lebron handle Jordan's offensive versatility? Is Jordan strong enough to prevent Lebron from backing him down and bulldozing him to the rim?

- Who's 'hot' at that given moment. Lebron is literally impossible to guard if his jumpshot is on. Jordan has more offensive weapons that can be employed in a one on one scenario.

I'd take MJ, but 10 out f 10 is insanity. 6/10, max 7/10, is the absolute best case scenario.

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Whats it matter if it was against the Magic? They had the next best 3 players after Lebron in the series. Finally you admit that Cleveland team had no shot creators[/QUOTE]

Dwight, who wasn;t guarding Lebron 1 on 1. Rashard Lewis? Hedo? Nelson?

:lol

Rashard Lewis is such a nightmare defender!!!

Also, their team defense was only good, because of the rim protection. Lebron didn't have resistance leading up the rim, only at the rim. In which he got a shit ton of foul calls.

I remember Dwight being in foul trouble early as hell in those games.

lebron isnt even that great of an iso player

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]so Rose was the only guy that could create his own shot, yet you fail to mention LeBron was the only guy who could create his own shot in the 09 ECF. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Silk, thanks for making our point for us, lol.
You try putting Rose down so much it's not funny ...You have Rose on one side with nobody else with him that can create their own shot. On the Heat you have LBJ and Wade, plus an All Star PF. We were outgunned and a 22/23 year old wasn't going to beat by himself a Heat team with their best players in their prime.

It was still a close series even though it was 4-1 because 3 of your wins came down to the last minutes of the game.

[QUOTE=TheMan]Silk, thanks for making our point for us, lol.
You try putting Rose down so much it's not funny ...You have Rose on one side with nobody else with him that can create their own shot. On the Heat you have LBJ and Wade, plus an All Star PF. We were outgunned and a 22/23 year old wasn't going to beat by himself a Heat team with their best players in their prime.

It was still a close series even though it was 4-1 because 3 of your wins came down to the last minutes of the game.[/QUOTE]

:applause:

[QUOTE=TheMan]Google Jason Terry trash talk LeBron James and refresh your memory by watching the YouTube video of Terry knocking down a dagger three in James face...[/QUOTE]

So "punking" him is trash talking and hitting a shot? A scorer scores and talks some trash and that's punking him? What was Lebron supposed to do? Punch him or something? As far as him hitting a shot, I don't know if you never seen it before, but players hit shots all the time. :biggums:

[QUOTE=TheMan]Well, he did hurt his ankle during the Pacers series that slowed him down. Didn't LBJ complain about his elbow during the Celtics series he lost? If LBJ can use that as an excuse, I see no reason why Rose shouldn't also (he hasn't).

I will absolutly say growing pains, we all here cut LBJ some slack for his performance against the Spurs in 07, he was a young guy first time that deep in the playoffs vs a veteran team. Or would you perfer us to say LBJ has laid in egg twice in the Finals and come up big once?

Most people here cut LBJ some slack for 07, (youth, inexperience, overmatched) even though he stunk.[/QUOTE]
None of this is relevant. I said Lebron can guard 1-4's well and some guy goes and says he can't and says Lebron never shut down Rose "he only guarded him a few possessions" So I simply told him he held Rose to 1-15 shooting

[QUOTE=tikay0]Dwight, who wasn;t guarding Lebron 1 on 1. Rashard Lewis? Hedo? Nelson?

:lol

Rashard Lewis is such a nightmare defender!!!

Also, their team defense was only good, because of the rim protection. Lebron didn't have resistance leading up the rim, only at the rim. In which he got a shit ton of foul calls.

I remember Dwight being in foul trouble early as hell in those games.[/QUOTE]


So wait wait wait, are you saying they lost that series because of Lebron?

[QUOTE=Mr Exlax][B]So "punking" him is trash talking and hitting a shot[/B]? A scorer scores and talks some trash and that's punking him? What was Lebron supposed to do? Punch him or something? As far as him hitting a shot, I don't know if you never seen it before, but players hit shots all the time. :biggums:[/QUOTE]
on the basketball court, sure, why not? this isn't ufc we're talking about tough guy.

[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]So "punking" him is trash talking and hitting a shot? A scorer scores and talks some trash and that's punking him? What was Lebron supposed to do? Punch him or something? As far as him hitting a shot, I don't know if you never seen it before, but players hit shots all the time. :biggums:[/QUOTE]
Jason Terry outscored him in the Finals...in no universe should Terry out score the best player in the league. Would Terry out score Jordan in a Finals series.

Thought so...

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]on the basketball court, sure, why not? this isn't ufc we're talking about tough guy.[/QUOTE]

So you can punk somebody by hitting a shot and talking some trash? You do know that happens all game every game right? It's part of basketball. That ain't punking him IMO. I could see if he hit him with a cheap shot and they had words and he backed down then yeah he punked him. Hitting a shot and talking trash. That's basketball.