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Awful trade for Houston. Awful.
Horrendous.
If you have too many PF's...guys with talent, like Montiejunas and now Royce White...when you have Terrence Jones...you trade for Thomas Robinson.
Robinson could be great for them, but what do you do with all the other stuff? You're trading it for a different PG? Getting rid of Lin? What are you doing?
But I knew those Twins would end up together lol.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]No one is going to keep Cousins in check, if the organisation and coach are not strong enough to control him they are better moving him (which I would not want to happend). They should have moved Jason Thompson or Chuck Hayes, T-Rob played awesome next to Cousins and hes a insane athlete.
Horrible horrible trade, Cole Alridge is one of the worse players in the NBA, Tony Douglas is our 5th PG [B]and Morris is not even better than all the trash we have @SF in Salmons.[/B] Typical Kings get raped on the court so why not get raped off it to. Houston got a epic pick up for basically trading away below average players.[/QUOTE]
You don't have Morris, he got traded to Phoenix in a different trade. All the Kings have is Patterson, Douglas and Cole.
[QUOTE=HaNdLe ThE RoCk]You don't have Morris, he got traded to Phoenix in a different trade. All the Kings have is Patterson, Douglas and Cole.[/QUOTE]
O wow...apprently we gave up on Tyler Honeycutt as well, and threw in a 2nd round pick, wow Houston with another almighty rape, there GM should get a noble prize.
wtf is Sacramento thinking?:biggums:
Thomas Robinson
Royce White
Terrance Jones
Rockets racked up on this past draft with PF's in the end.
WTF is T Rob. Can you please post real names for ****'s sake?
[QUOTE=Droid101]WTF is T Rob. Can you please post real names for ****'s sake?[/QUOTE]
Thomas Robinson
[QUOTE=Droid101]WTF is T Rob. Can you please post real names for ****'s sake?[/QUOTE]
well it's obvious when you click the topic the first name you see is Robinson. The first team you see besides Houston is the Kings. Is it really that hard?
I get sticking with Jason Thompson at the four for Sacramento, but it does really just show the lack of a plan there. Damian Lillard and Harrison Barnes would've made a lot more sense in the draft.
Nice move though for Houston. Trying to find a sleeper star wherever they can.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]I get sticking with Jason Thompson at the four for Sacramento, but it does really just show the lack of a plan there. Damian Lillard and Harrison Barnes would've made a lot more sense in the draft.
Nice move though for Houston. Trying to find a sleeper star wherever they can.[/QUOTE]
What do you expect from an organisation that has consistantly made horrible picks like Jimmer amongst others and have refused to build any sort of team around Cousins or Evans.
Whats next Evans for Lance Stephenson?
[QUOTE=andremiller07]O wow...apprently we gave up on Tyler Honeycutt as well, and threw in a 2nd round pick, wow Houston with another almighty rape, there GM should get a noble prize.[/QUOTE]
I just noticed that...that just makes me scratch my head more...Honeycutt has talent.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]Whats next Evans for Lance Stephenson?[/QUOTE]
Let me ask you this, does Evans for Jared Dudley not make sense?
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]Let me ask you this, does Evans for Jared Dudley not make sense?[/QUOTE]
If your the Suns yes it really does
[QUOTE=HaNdLe ThE RoCk]well it's obvious when you click the topic the first name you see is Robinson. The first team you see besides Houston is the Kings. Is it really that hard?[/QUOTE]
Sorry all. Frustrated at myself for not knowing this guy. Seriously, the Kings are so bad that I can't even be bothered to check what players they have anymore.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]Let me ask you this, does Evans for Jared Dudley not make sense?[/QUOTE]
if hes truly on the market, i think granger for evans + filler makes more sense for both teams.
maybe granger + augustine for evans + thompson?
[QUOTE=Qwyjibo]No kidding. Robinson may never turn into anything great but this is a prime example of "selling low". Draft player 5th overall, sink his value immediately and then trade him halfway through his 1st season. Genius.[/QUOTE]
Seems very Raptors-like of them.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]If your the Suns yes it really does[/QUOTE]
See I like the deal for Sacramento more. You get a much needed character guy and let Phoenix pay Evans this summer. Giving Evans a big deal is a losing move.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Awful trade for Houston. Awful.
Horrendous.
If you have too many PF's...guys with talent, like Montiejunas and now Royce White...when you have Terrence Jones...you trade for Thomas Robinson.
Robinson could be great for them, but what do you do with all the other stuff? You're trading it for a different PG? Getting rid of Lin? What are you doing?
But I knew those Twins would end up together lol.[/QUOTE]
I don't think its all that bad for HOU especially since they got Honeycutt and a pick.
Royce hasn't played a game an his future with HOU is sketchy at best (and should see time at the 3), Jones has potential but he is a tweener type who will be better as versatility off the bench in the future, and Montiejunas should be able to move over to C as he develops and fills out his frame a bit.
Robinson is still a great athlete and should fit better in HOU's fast-paced style. He can be a hustle guy as he develops and if anyone can teach him to play in the post it will be McHale.
Patterson is a nice player but they didn't really give up all that much, especially when you look long-term.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]See I like the deal for Sacramento more. You get a much needed character guy and let Phoenix pay Evans this summer. Giving Evans a big deal is a losing move.[/QUOTE]
To a certain extent, but I honestly think if the Kings won't pay Evans they were better of trying to get something like Granger as someone said.
The least we could have got out of this deal was D-Mo or Terrance Jones but we didn't even get that. Cole Alridge might be the worst C in the whole NBA
[QUOTE=Dave3]Seems very Raptors-like of them.[/QUOTE]
Nah. The Raptors would give Robinson a 4 year extension regardless of how he plays and hold onto him for 6 years too long.
They are not messin around when they say Cali has the best kush around.
Yo Petrie puff puff pass niggga :pimp:
[QUOTE=Levity]if hes truly on the market, i think granger for evans + filler makes more sense for both teams.
maybe granger + augustine for evans + thompson?[/QUOTE]
I like Jared Dudley more because he's a good role player and cheap.
I do whatever I can to get Marcus Smart in the draft and clear out the glut of guards this summer. Stay cheap, have good character guys to surround Cousins.
Also, hire Nate McMillian as the coach. :applause:
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]I like Jared Dudley more because he's a good role player and cheap.
I do whatever I can to get Marcus Smart in the draft and clear out the glut of guards this summer. Stay cheap, have good character guys to surround Cousins.
Also, hire Nate McMillian as the coach. :applause:[/QUOTE]
Yeah that would actually be rather epic tbh, Maruc Smart is a going to be very good and Nate as a coach would be beast.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]To a certain extent, but I honestly think if the Kings won't pay Evans they were better of trying to get something like Granger as someone said.
The least we could have got out of this deal was D-Mo or Terrance Jones but we didn't even get that. Cole Alridge might be the worst C in the whole NBA[/QUOTE]
The team doesn't need a Granger now. You've got to bottom out (check), stay cheap and try to nail a couple of good draft picks. Granger is a guy you get to make a run, not to rebuild.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Awful trade for Houston. Awful.
Horrendous.
If you have too many PF's...guys with talent, like Montiejunas and now Royce White...when you have Terrence Jones...you trade for Thomas Robinson.
Robinson could be great for them, but what do you do with all the other stuff? You're trading it for a different PG? Getting rid of Lin? What are you doing?
But I knew those Twins would end up together lol.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: awful? The most the rockets gave up was Patterson. I'll take it.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]Yeah that would actually be rather epic tbh, Maruc Smart is a going to be very good and Nate as a coach would be beast.[/QUOTE]
They have the assets to probably move up in the draft if they need to, unless Marcus Smart ends up going #1. They need a floor general and I think Smart has that DNA.
Nate is my pick if they go to Seattle. Would be kinda cool and he's a good coach. Got really screwed here in Portland.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]The team doesn't need a Granger now. You've got to bottom out (check), stay cheap and try to nail a couple of good draft picks. Granger is a guy you get to make a run, not to rebuild.[/QUOTE]
Maybe than get Gerald Henderson than imo if they won't pay Tyreke, maybe Tyreke and something else for Jeffery Taylor and Hendo.
[QUOTE=SCREWstonRockets]:oldlol: awful? The most the rockets gave up was Patterson. I'll take it.[/QUOTE]
Mistake...awful for both is what I meant to say. I just realized that you got Honeycutt too, which makes it less awful, strictly because you have more assets.
What you have a glut of PF's with potential, don't you...too many.
Houston get T-Rob (5th pick full of potential, mainly restricted due to bad coaching/situation) at start of rookie contract in exchange of 2 nothing role players and Pat Pat who really is just a role player and at the end of rookie contract. T-Rob now at great club, and being coached by McHale.
Great trade for Houston.
Lin
Harden
Parsons/White
T-Rob/Greg Smith/Jones
Asik/Montie
Not sold on Lin as the future at PG but that is a lot of good young talent. Houston will be fun to watch develop.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]
What you have a glut of PF's with potential, don't you...too many.[/QUOTE]
DERP, they gave up two average ones today, and acquired the 5th pick in the draft. T-Rob has heaps of potential, was held back in Sac.
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]I don't think its all that bad for HOU especially since they got Honeycutt and a pick.
Royce hasn't played a game an his future with HOU is sketchy at best (and should see time at the 3), Jones has potential but he is a tweener type who will be better as versatility off the bench in the future, and Montiejunas should be able to move over to C as he develops and fills out his frame a bit.
Robinson is still a great athlete and should fit better in HOU's fast-paced style. He can be a hustle guy as he develops and if anyone can teach him to play in the post it will be McHale.
Patterson is a nice player but they didn't really give up all that much, especially when you look long-term.[/QUOTE]
Yea I didn't notice Honeycutt until I saw it on TV. Sacramento for the win lol.
But I actually meant to add that it was awful for both teams. It just seemed like a lateral move.
I actually see plenty of the fit for Robinson in Houston...but they have so many guys there and, while they're all question marks, so is Robinson. I'd be looking for bigger moves than Robinson. I'd go for Josh Smith and see if Howard would follow.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]Maybe than get Gerald Henderson than imo if they won't pay Tyreke, maybe Tyreke and something else for Jeffery Taylor and Hendo.[/QUOTE]
It's amazing to me Evans isn't more in the rumors. Someone will give him a big contract this summer and I get the feeling Sacramento will match it. Don't understand why though.
This will be good for Cousins, being reunited with Patterson who's always been a good character guy. This should make chuckwagon happy as well, seeing another familiar face.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Yea I didn't notice Honeycutt until I saw it on TV. Sacramento for the win lol.
But I actually meant to add that it was awful for both teams. It just seemed like a lateral move.
I actually see plenty of the fit for Robinson in Houston...but they have so many guys there and, while they're all question marks, so is Robinson. I'd be looking for bigger moves than Robinson. I'd go for Josh Smith and see if Howard would follow.[/QUOTE]
Ah yeah except they can't have Harden, Smoove and Dwight.
They have Harden, young guys, and cap room for Dwight.
[QUOTE=G-train]DERP, they gave up two average ones today, and acquired the 5th pick in the draft. T-Rob has heaps of potential, was held back in Sac.[/QUOTE]
White has even more potential and is now with the team. Montiejunas has potential. It makes sense if they're packing up for a huge move.
I guess I'll watch and see what Morey does. Odd stuff tho.
The only reasoning I can think as far as this trade if that if Patterson starts over JT and opens the floor from the 3 point line to open lanes for Evans and Cousins. JT comes off the bench and becomes the go to guy off the bench with Thornton. But knowning Keith Smart that will not happend it makes to much sense.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Yea I didn't notice Honeycutt until I saw it on TV. Sacramento for the win lol.
But I actually meant to add that it was awful for both teams. It just seemed like a lateral move.
I actually see plenty of the fit for Robinson in Houston...but they have so many guys there and, while they're all question marks, so is Robinson. I'd be looking for bigger moves than Robinson. I'd go for Josh Smith and see if Howard would follow.[/QUOTE]
Having all those guys who are questions marks isn't necessarily a bad thing. Developing talent is a numbers game sometimes and the team is better off taking a risk on a guy like T-Rob than sitting on their hands for the next 3 years hoping Terrence Jones develops or Royce White stops being afraid of the dark.
They seem to be going with the Thunder formula of acquiring young talent and I approve. Now its on them to develop them.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Yea I didn't notice Honeycutt until I saw it on TV. Sacramento for the win lol.
But I actually meant to add that it was awful for both teams. It just seemed like a lateral move.
I actually see plenty of the fit for Robinson in Houston...but they have so many guys there and, while they're all question marks, so is Robinson. I'd be looking for bigger moves than Robinson. I'd go for Josh Smith and see if Howard would follow.[/QUOTE]
I actually like the trades for all involved, Morey did Morris a favor letting him reunite with his brother, and Patterson gets to reunite with Cousins and Hayes, hopefully help Cousins get his head straight.
For the Rockets, they get rebounding and athleticism, something they haven't had from the PF spot even going back to the Scola/Landry days. Trading away 2 PF's also opens up minutes for Jones & D-Mo, who were the future anyway. Robinson will get a chance to shine in a good organization, and the Rockets now have a good nucleus going forward, not to mention they still have a max deal to offer someone, probably an upgrade at the 3?
[QUOTE=Phantom_Blue]This will be good for Cousins, being reunited with Patterson who's always been a good character guy. This should make chuckwagon happy as well, seeing another familiar face.[/QUOTE]
Idk why everyone thinks Cousins having one of his boys on the team matters. If anything it'll be someone to tell him he's always right. Y'all talk like Patterson is a 30'yeard old vet