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[QUOTE=imnew09]Chicaco, [B]don't jump on the Heat wagon because once Lebron leaves, it's shyt again[/B] :roll:[/QUOTE]
Not true at all. Heat have had a good franchise for quite a while and they will always be an attractive destination for free agents. Even when they were having those first round exit seasons they still had a superstar and flexibility for the future
How have the Hawks not been mentioned?
Most likable team in the league.
[QUOTE=macmac]I have a hard time jumping ship to such winning franchises.[/QUOTE]
Then stay with the Raptors
I can relate mate. I feel the same for the Warriors
[QUOTE=SacJB Shady]I can relate mate. I feel the same for the Warriors[/QUOTE]
You should definitely change teams, I don't think the swings are good for your heart
[QUOTE=red1]Not true at all. Heat have had a good franchise for quite a while and they will always be an attractive destination for free agents. Even when they were having those first round exit seasons they still had a superstar and flexibility for the future[/QUOTE]
Spot on. Laker fans are extremely arrogant.
I say the same thing as a Dolphins fan every year, but I always come back. There is no escape lol. I don't see how anyone can simply snap their fingers and say "I'm rooting for someone else." Once you bleed that team's colors for years, that's it.
[QUOTE=DaSeba5]Spot on. Laker fans are extremely arrogant.[/QUOTE]
yeah, the insecure ones act that way because they are jealous [COLOR="White"]cue some fggt bringing up 16 banners[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=boozehound]It is ridiculous that you guys count the ones from Minnesota.[/QUOTE]
Why wouldn't we? It's not like Lakers fans are going to start claiming Clippers titles if they win one this year. It's not like the T-wolves fans are claiming those titles. Lakers fans root for the lakers, lol. If they changed names or something, yeah it wouldn't make sense. Like if the Detroit Gems won a title before they became the Lakers, yeah it would be ridiculous to claim those. There's a fairly clear lineage between the teams. Lol, are the New Jersey Nets fans supposed to pretend that their team is dead now that they've moved towns?
If you want to talk about broken lineages, what about the fact that the Clippers used to be the Celtics and vice versa?
pacers
most pacer fans on this board arent cocky ass trolls like every other top team
Are the Knicks the closest team to Toronto? Or Celtics? Either way, the Knicks are up there in age. I doubt you would wanna root for them. But you're a good poster, so if you wanna hop on than welcome aboard.
Thunder?
[QUOTE=macmac]On the Raptors. I've been a die hard since the age of 13 but this year Im just fed up with the mediocrity and complete lack of direction. I'm getting older and I've realized life is too short to be a fan of a losing, terribly managed franchise. I'm tired of the frustration, the disappointment, the offseason naive hope only to have it crushed 10 games into the new season.
So I have to find a new team to root for. I've rooted for the Raps because it was Canada's team and before the rise of the Internet, was the only team consistently being broadcast north of the border.
Now I travel alot, especially to Miami, but I cringe thinking of jumping ship to a team like Miami, thats seemingly untouchable these days. What are some good options for life long support and dedication, especially in the East, where I could travel to see them 2-3 times a year?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be able to just randomly root for someone that I choose out of no where. But if you can, cool.
I'd root for a big market team in a city that is attractive to players...NY, Chicago, LA, or Philadelphia. Those teams will always be attractive to players.
Cavs or pacers.
youre asking what team to be a fan of jesus christ
youre asking what team to be a fan of jesus christ
If you are able to root for another team you weren't a true fan in the first place..
Stick with them and enjoy the good and the bad times.
Don't pick a team like the Lakers or Celtics they have it way to easy and are spoiled. Their teams really don't earn anything, they just coast off their name's success. Plus it takes a lot more of a fan to be a Raptors fan than a Lakers fan.
You're picking a helluva time to jump ship imo. Gay/Derozan/Lowry/Amir, not too bad. If this team sticks together for a few years and waits it out for the super teams to die out, they'll contend.
[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]You're picking a helluva time to jump ship imo. Gay/Derozan/Lowry/Amir, not too bad. If this team sticks together for a few years and waits it out for the super teams to die out, they'll contend.[/QUOTE]
You realize that all 4 of those guys you named right now are probably as good as they'll ever be? It's not like these guys are rookies or young 2nd year players. Waiting a few more years for more Colangelo screw-ups doesn't change the fact that none of them are All-Star caliber talent.
Unless Valanciunas becomes a legit All-Star, there is no hope for this current roster to do anything other than quietly exit in the 1st round at best.
nothing will ever replace your 1st favorite team, and/or home team. Only way you can honestly stop being
a Raptors fan is if you move to an NBA city in the US or if you were never a true Raptors die hard.
This is what happens when a team is happy staying mediocre. The Raptors shouldn't be going for Rudy Gay they should be tanking it hard for draft picks.
Just imagine if they got a top pick this year, then luck out and get Wiggins in 2014. The path they're on is getting first round draft picks from 10-15.
[QUOTE=macmac]You really consider that a bandwagon fan? After watching about 70% of 15 years of losing seasons, and making a hole in my wall after Carter missed that game winner against the sixers? And buying countless memorabilia throughout the years?
I don't think rooting for one team for 15years, that's not even in your city and finally being fed up is the definition of a bandwagon fan[/QUOTE]
You're no longer welcome to be a Raptors fan, bye bye now. You're more of a loser than this team :roll:
I've been a Nets fan since 1991. I probably would have bailed if I actually grew up in a place where I could watch them with regularity. I followed the team in the newspaper and video games. The cable packages came along just in time for The Kidd Era, so I got a nice present for being their during The Yinka Dare Era.
Why can't you remain a Raps fan, and simply find a second team to root for?
Personally I'm both a Rockets and Spurs fan, been rooting for both teams for like 15 years now.
[QUOTE=monkeypox]Why wouldn't we? It's not like Lakers fans are going to start claiming Clippers titles if they win one this year. It's not like the T-wolves fans are claiming those titles. Lakers fans root for the lakers, lol. If they changed names or something, yeah it wouldn't make sense. Like if the Detroit Gems won a title before they became the Lakers, yeah it would be ridiculous to claim those. There's a fairly clear lineage between the teams. Lol, are the New Jersey Nets fans supposed to pretend that their team is dead now that they've moved towns?
If you want to talk about broken lineages, what about the fact that the Clippers used to be the Celtics and vice versa?[/QUOTE]
should the thunder be allowed to claim the supersonics titles? They had the same players on the squad the very next year in OKC. The name change is irrelevant IMO. A franchise that has relocated shouldnt be able to claim the prior titles or, at the very least, they should have an asterisk.
[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]You're picking a helluva time to jump ship imo. Gay/Derozan/Lowry/Amir, not too bad. If this team sticks together for a few years and waits it out for the super teams to die out, they'll contend.[/QUOTE]
this is sheer ignorance. What in the world makes you think that core 4 is anywhere close to making the playoffs, let alone "contending".
I can only take certain amounts of Raptors' suckage before I watch another team. I watch a lot of Hawks and Miami games to offset the garbage, no direction franchise we have in Toronto.
[QUOTE=boozehound]should the thunder be allowed to claim the supersonics titles? They had the same players on the squad the very next year in OKC. The name change is irrelevant IMO. A franchise that has relocated shouldnt be able to claim the prior titles or, at the very least, they should have an asterisk.[/QUOTE]
They actually did claim the titles. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_Thunder[/url]
The Lakers have a greater claim to their titles than the Thunder do. At least they kept the name. Why is the name change so irrelevant and the location change so important? What's the logic behind it? I root for the Lakers, an the Lakers won those titles.
The Golden State warrios aren't allowed to claim anything they did in San Francisco or Philadelphia? The Raiders aren't allowed to claim what they did in LA? So those years in LA the Raiders were a different team that no longer exists?
Instead of just saying it shouldn't count, explain why they shouldn't. Make an argument.
FYI usually the titles do have an asterisk. In fact in the stadium the MLPS titles are all together on a separate banner and don't have their own like the LA titles.
I remember when there was a huge Bryan Colangelo on this board..
I don't understand why people think they have to have a favorite team. Just be a fan of basketball in general. It's ok to have multiple favorites.
Or Just follow teams that have your favorite players.
[QUOTE=Tarik One]I remember when there was a huge Bryan Colangelo on this board..[/QUOTE]
LOL this.
I remember back in 06 when i joined ISH there was a HUGE raptors fanbase on here. Like literally the biggest fanbase on the whole board who were all very commited to riding Colangelo's nuts. VERY commited. Colangelo was essentially seen as a FO genius by the fans; I remember "In BC we trust" user titles, Colangelo avis, etc. Oh how the Craptors have fallen :roll:
Fairweather fanbase if i've ever seen one, like many canadian franchises. Hardly even a fan presence on ISH anymore smh. Raptors fans used to claim they were a superior franchise to the Knicks :roll: :roll: Garbage ass fans when Knicks fans never left
Skywalker where you at!!!! f@ggot!
the nuggets wagon is always open
[QUOTE=MetsPackers]LOL this.
I remember back in 06 when i joined ISH there was a HUGE raptors fanbase on here. Like literally the biggest fanbase on the whole board who were all very commited to riding Colangelo's nuts. VERY commited. Colangelo was essentially seen as a FO genius by the fans; I remember "In BC we trust" user titles, Colangelo avis, etc. Oh how the Craptors have fallen :roll:
Fairweather fanbase if i've ever seen one, like many canadian franchises. Hardly even a fan presence on ISH anymore smh. Raptors fans used to claim they were a superior franchise to the Knicks :roll: :roll: Garbage ass fans when Knicks fans never left
Skywalker where you at!!!! f@ggot![/QUOTE]
if you knew anything about the Raptors franchise you'd know that BC is only a symptom of the problem with the Raptors.
If you knew anything about the Raptors franchise you'd know that complacency within MLSE has always been the root cause of the problem.
If you knew anything about the franchise you'd know that up until last year the majority shareholders in MLSE were the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan which prevented the Raptors from taking any big risks on expensive players, only to settle for a lot of mediocre ones.
If you knew anything about the franchise you'd know that nothing has motivated MLSE to change their philosophy on the team because Raptors games are very well attended, and until last year, sold out very regularly. Why have an expensive team when a mediocre team will make the same amount of money, and generate a bigger profit.
If you knew anything about Raptors fans on this forum you'd know that their beef is with MLSE, and Colangelo, as their lackey, is just a face to put that blame on.
Do yourself a favor and try not to embarrass yourself again, because it's clear, you dont know anything.
[QUOTE=MetsPackers]
Fairweather fanbase if i've ever seen one, like many canadian franchises. Hardly even a fan presence on ISH anymore smh. Raptors fans used to claim they were a superior franchise to the Knicks :roll: :roll: Garbage ass fans when Knicks fans never left
Skywalker where you at!!!! f@ggot![/QUOTE]
There is plenty of Raptor fans that still post on here and support the team, just because a few might leave doesn't mean the whole fan base is like that. Don't act like NY hasn't had fans ditch them either, its just harder to notice as more NY fans post on here now that Melo got traded to the team. :confusedshrug:
So stop being an idiot and judging a whole fan base on the actions of a few, while completely ignore the same events happening on your own team. :facepalm
[QUOTE=Burgz V2]if you knew anything about the Raptors franchise you'd know that BC is only a symptom of the problem with the Raptors.
If you knew anything about the Raptors franchise you'd know that complacency within MLSE has always been the root cause of the problem.
If you knew anything about the franchise you'd know that up until last year the majority shareholders in MLSE were the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan which prevented the Raptors from taking any big risks on expensive players, only to settle for a lot of mediocre ones.
If you knew anything about the franchise you'd know that nothing has motivated MLSE to change their philosophy on the team because Raptors games are very well attended, and until last year, sold out very regularly. Why have an expensive team when a mediocre team will make the same amount of money, and generate a bigger profit.
If you knew anything about Raptors fans on this forum you'd know that their beef is with MLSE, and Colangelo, as their lackey, is just a face to put that blame on.
Do yourself a favor and try not to embarrass yourself again, because it's clear, you dont know anything.[/QUOTE]
Nah it kinda seems like U mad
Can't see your join date now that i'm replying but back in 06 the board was packed with Craptors fans who thought they had a great franchise with a genius at the helm :roll: :roll: Give it a few years and the franchise was always garbage; I guess they got one thing right :roll:
Stay mad tho raps fans, it's gona be a while :oldlol:
become a bucks fan. Theyre my favorite team in the east. And they only have about 5 fans that post on this board.
Next season:
Jennings or Ellis (they wont keep both)
Redick (hopefully)
Mbah a Moute ( a good defensive 3 to have, especially in the eastern conference)
Ersanity!!
The Larry Sanders show!!!!
whats not to love?
[QUOTE=MetsPackers]Nah it kinda seems like U mad
Can't see your join date now that i'm replying but back in 06 the board was packed with Craptors fans who thought they had a great franchise with a genius at the helm :roll: :roll: Give it a few years and the franchise was always garbage; I guess they got one thing right :roll:
Stay mad tho raps fans, it's gona be a while :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
oh you're right, the Knicks are such a great franchise, so many rings...oh wait...
[QUOTE=Burgz V2]oh you're right, the Knicks are such a great franchise, so many rings...oh wait...[/QUOTE]
Maybe we can grow up one day to be a legendary franchise that contends every year like the Raps and has a genius running the FO!! :bowdown: :bowdown:
...Oh wait :roll:
And 2 > 0 yes I know they're an expansion but have the Raps ever even been to the ECF? :roll:
Just follow the NBA.