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[QUOTE]Howabout all of the characters being paper cut out cliches.[/QUOTE]
Name a single cop show that has ever given so much screen time to drug dealers and validated their point of view like the Wire has. And the cops are paper cutouts? Seriously? You should be forced to turn in your avatar because people might mistake you for someone with taste.
Don't even watch the second season. You don't deserve Ziggy.
[QUOTE=LJJ][FONT=Arial]I could have predicted Andgar
I hate threads like this. Take something popular then try to meh it. I never got into Seinfeld given how popular of a following that show has. The humor from the episodes I forced myself to watch just didnt grab me. Too dry, stupid. But I cant bash the show or argue its not great. Never gave the show much of a chance given a couple episodes I saw. Funny part is I love Curb your Enthusiasm .
Anyway, saying The Wire is overrated is flat out dumb.
It's curious the way people are so eager to conform to the opinions of others.
The Wire is the GOAT show. It really is as good as it is often made out to be. The acting is great, and the writing is incredible.
I see no legitimacy in any of andgar's complaints.
Coming from a guy that's a huge fan of the overrated shit band Radiohead.
Pretty sure I can never watch Breaking Bad now because of the way some ISHers seem to overrate it. I'll prob end up sitting there picking out flaws instead of being able to enjoy the show.
[QUOTE=Balla_Status]Coming from a guy that's a huge fan of the overrated shit band Radiohead.[/QUOTE]
Yo I remember when my friend first played me radiohead, lmao....I really wasnt feeling it and I said it was like sleepy time music....no instrumentation.....kinda boring....he practically ended our friendship on the spot lmao
The Wire is one of the best shows I've ever seen
The only thing I hate about the show is the name. "The Wire" is a terrible name. Should have been called "Baltimore". Simple. Relatable. The Wire? C'mon....just a bad name.
Other than that, excellent show on every level.
Interesting point-of-view, OP. Completely wrong, but interesting.
Just kidding... Like music, television can be as much personal preference as anything. I think The Wire should be mandatory viewing for anyone who feels they don't know what's going on or can't relate to street culture or violence perpetrated by the War on Drugs.
I felt The Wire was so much more than a television show. It exposed a lot of flaws in how, what and who is prosecuted in the United States.
I don't like The Wire either. Tried watching a few episodes, never got hooked.
you watch one season and proclaim the series to be overrated? :facepalm
Having said that, season 2 is the weakest.. Season 3, 4, and 5 are the best.
The Wire, The Sopranos, Seinfeld, and Arrested Development are probably my favorite shows of all time.
[QUOTE=YAWN]you watch one season and proclaim the series to be overrated? :facepalm
Having said that, season 2 is the weakest.. Season 3, 4, and 5 are the best.
The Wire, The Sopranos, Seinfeld, and Arrested Development are probably my favorite shows of all time.[/QUOTE]
season 5 is the weakest, season 2 is underrated, I hated it at first but it's deep breh
You guys need to understand that the Wire isnt for everybody. Its GOAT show in my opinion but i can understand why people who like FRIENDS or Star Trek might not enjoy it.
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[quote=Balla_Status]Coming from a guy that's a huge fan of the overrated shit band Radiohead.[/quote]I'm not sticking up for Radiohead, but dude. Hawker. Oasis.
[QUOTE=Stuckey]season 5 is the weakest, season 2 is underrated, I hated it at first but it's deep breh[/QUOTE]
Agreed. The thing that makes Season 2 difficult for people is that it introduces so many new characters and deviates from the street aspect. However, The Wire was never about following a specific narrative every season. It was about showing every aspect of the War on Drugs and just how deep the rabbit hole goes. Getting the drugs into the country is a major part of that.
[QUOTE=andgar923]I've been waiting to watch this show for years. The hype around this around the inter webs had me salivating. ....
[B][I]To be honest/fair I just saw the first season[/I][/B], and I'm really not anxious to begin season 2. Game of Thrones immediately grabbed me, the quality stood out from the get go.
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you're being short sighted.
whether or not you're into it, the Wire can NOT be evaluated after one fukcing chapter. it's an epic story. it's not episodic.
although since i couldn't have summed it up much better than this review, read this:
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[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]I'm not sticking up for Radiohead, but dude. Hawker. Oasis.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: Repped!
Reading some of the replies here basically reaffirms my main point which most either ignored or simply didn't want to get.... "It's overrated!!!".
I am humored by the personal attacks and strawman attempts tho. I discovered things about me that I never knew before such as:
Beatles are my fav artist, something I never knew! I always thought that they were a one of my fav artists but not my fav of all time.
That apparently I am a Friends fan. I guess those 4 episodes that I forced myself to watch makes me a fan!!
I learned that admiring and respecting Radiohead makes my opinion on anything moot. I did not know this makes me a retard.
I also didn't know that enjoying Game of Thrones made it my fav current show. That's a revelation that I am happy to know about.
Who would've known that preferring BB over Wire made you a tool that is too dumb to understand anything that needs an IQ higher than that of a toddler.
All this time I thought shows such as Sopranos, OZ and even some network shows touched on many of these similar themes. I guess movies have also never been made that have pieces of characters, plot lines like the Wire.
At the end I guess saying a show is good isn't enough. Not only does it have to be the best crime drama show of all time, it has to be THE best show of all time!!! If you don't agree then you're no better than a Friends loving-Adam Sadler movie watching-low IQ idiot.
All this thread reaffirms is that you didn't understand anything about the show.
Literally every single insight in regards to the show you personally came up with was completely besides the point of the show. And this is not just me or your "haters" (:rolleyes: ) talking, literally everyone in the thread observed this.
You try to criticise the show based on it's content, but you completely fail to even identify said content. It's one of the most cringe inducing analyses I have ever seen.
[QUOTE=LJJ]All this thread reaffirms is that you didn't understand anything about the show.
Literally every single insight in regards to the show you personally came up with was completely besides the point of the show. And this is not just me or your "haters" (:rolleyes: ) talking, literally everyone in the thread observed this.
You try to criticise the show based on it's content, but you completely fail to even identify said content. It's one of the most cringe inducing analyses I have ever seen.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I didn't understand anything because it was extremely deep. Almost every single one of the things mentioned that I supposedly didn't "get" I did. I think most of you are trying too hard.
[quote=andgar923]Almost every single one of the things mentioned that I supposedly didn't "get" I did.[/quote]
Which is why you "got it" only after people mentioned it and completely failed to properly assert it on your own iniation.
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whether or not you're into it, the Wire can NOT be evaluated after one fukcing chapter. it's an epic story. it's not episodic.
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I disagree. If he watched the first season, and didn't like it, what makes you think he's going to like Season 2 or Season 3? The topics change season to season, but the tone is the same.
The Wire is just not for him. Probably likes CSI or CSI Miami or CSI New York. Stick with those.
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well, i agree with you that he (or anyone) can decide if they don't like something (e.g., the Wire) after just a taste (e.g., one season).
no argument there.
but a small sample size isn't enough to properly evaluate something as 'worthwhile', 'overrated', or somewhere in between.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]I never watched Lost, but when you think Breaking Bad, The Wire, and The Sopranos aren't very good the problem isn't the shows.[/QUOTE]
Game, set, match.
Also have to LOL @ show's lack of "originality" when 90% of the characters are drawn from David Simon's actual experiences in Baltimore.
[QUOTE=johndeeregreen]Also have to LOL @ show's lack of "originality" when 90% of the characters are drawn from David Simon's actual experiences in Baltimore.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget Ed Burns. He was [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Burns"]The Wire's secret weapon[/URL].
He spent 20 years as a cop then retired and became a school teacher. The Wire is much more about his experiences than Simon's. In fact season 5 which focused on the failures of the press and thus was based on David Simon's experiences was the weakest season.
[QUOTE]Burns was a producer, writer, and co-creator (also with Simon) of the HBO series The Wire. They originally set out to create a police drama loosely based on Burns' experiences working on protracted investigations of violent drug dealers using surveillance technology. He had often faced frustration with the bureaucracy of the police department, which Simon equated with his own ordeals as a police reporter for the Baltimore Sun. Writing against the background of current events, including institutionalized corporate crime at Enron and institutional dysfunction in the Catholic Church, the show became "more of a treatise about institutions and individuals than a straight cop show."[7][/QUOTE]
David Simon obviously brought his own talents to The Wire, but Ed Burns is the real deal. I think both Burns and Simon come from religious traditions that teach that you can't give up on the poor. I know that watching The Wire, I was reminded of the best parts of Catholic moral teaching.
Here's an interview with him.
[url]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6524743[/url]
I havent seen it but hate how much love it gets. No way its better than sopranos. I will start watching it next week.
Good show, but too many black people. I like Season 2 though. Less black people.
It's really good, but I have no clue how anyone can say its better than The Sopranos.
season 3 and 4 are up there in regards to best seasons of all shows all time.
[QUOTE=CeltsGarlic]I havent seen it but hate how much love it gets. No way its better than sopranos. I will start watching it next week.[/QUOTE]
I absolutely loved the sopranos when i started watching it. I thought christopher was such a bad ass. After i finished the sopranos, i started the wire. It out shined the sopranos is every facet.
[QUOTE=Levity]I absolutely loved the sopranos when i started watching it. I thought christopher was such a bad ass. After i finished the sopranos, i started the wire.[B] It out shined the sopranos is every facet[/B].[/QUOTE]
This is where The Wire starts to get overrated. The Sopranos will forever be known and talked about. The Wire will be remembered by people that post on message boards and drive a Prius. Its a great show, but it isn't better than The Sopranos.
[QUOTE][QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]This is where The Wire starts to get overrated. [/QUOTE]
That's basically why I made this thread. The Sopranos revolutionized not just TV, but impacted culture and film in the process. Like you stated it will be rembered forever as that.
Wire was good but there's a difference between being good and GREATEST SHOW OF ALL TIME. Do people not see the hyperbole around this show.
[QUOTE=Graviton]Eh it was too slow and boring for me, like a parody of a gritty dramatic crime series instead of a real one. Not as bad as Breaking Bad though.
From the HBO series I liked Oz the most, had more of a flavor and personality. Better humor, acting and entertainment value.[/QUOTE]
Oz is very underrated. My only knock against it is the last season kind of sucks.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Oz is very underrated. My only knock against it is the last season kind of sucks.[/QUOTE]
People are forgetting OZ in this thread and in general.
[QUOTE=andgar923]People are forgetting OZ in this thread and in general.[/QUOTE]
This. Oz always consistently keeps your interest throughout the whole show. And the characters were fantastic.
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That's basically why I made this thread. The Sopranos revolutionized not just TV, but impacted culture and film in the process. Like you stated it will be rembered forever as that.
Wire was good but there's a difference between being good and GREATEST SHOW OF ALL TIME. Do people not see the hyperbole around this show.[/QUOTE]
The Wire a lot but its one of those things that starts to get overrated because it was underrated for so long. Sopranos had better everything imo. Even the side characters were better than The Wire's most interesting characters.
[QUOTE=KevinNYC]Don't forget Ed Burns. He was [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Burns"]The Wire's secret weapon[/URL].
He spent 20 years as a cop then retired and became a school teacher. The Wire is much more about his experiences than Simon's. In fact season 5 which focused on the failures of the press and thus was based on David Simon's experiences was the weakest season.[/quote]
You're right for the most part, but if you think David Simon's experiences were limited to the journalistic aspect of it you need to read his book "Homicide."