[QUOTE=willds09]Come on bro, u know white don't do shit, they don't even let that niguh play anymore:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Can't add Jackson for playoffs.
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[QUOTE=willds09]Come on bro, u know white don't do shit, they don't even let that niguh play anymore:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Can't add Jackson for playoffs.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]People need to stop thinking that Pop is infallible. Imo, he's just a stubborn, angry old man determined to get his way no matter what the consequences.
Still a great coach, but when the Spurs exit in the 1st or 2nd round, some needed scrutiny will be coming Pop's way.[/QUOTE]
yeah but with moves like these he keeps his locker room in place.you get attitude and cause problems?gtfo we don t need you.it s coach first and players after.not the other way around.for spurs a players attitude is more important than his talent.i believe pop had reasons to let him loose.spurs is a serious organization that think twice before they act on everything like who players they get who draft etc etc
:wtf:
What is even the point of waiving players this close to the playoffs? SJax is a great talent and the Spurs just got rid of him for nothing. There must have been some SERIOUS locker room trouble with him to warrant this move.
[QUOTE=alexd]yeah but with moves like these he keeps his locker room in place.you get attitude and cause problems?gtfo we don t need you.it s coach first and players after.not the other way around.for spurs a players attitude is more important than his talent.i believe pop had reasons to let him loose.spurs is a serious organization that think twice before they act on everything like who players they get who draft etc etc[/QUOTE]
All well and good, but the name of the game is 'winning'. If SA, as the top or #2 seed, doesn't get to the WCF, Pop is going to get some heat.
I haven't liked his act for while now. His attitude during the brief coach's in-game interview is disgusting. He's gotten away with it for far too long, and it just might backfire if he's not getting deep into the playoffs.
For some reason, he reminds of of Bobby Knight -- an old school 'angryman' who lost touch with the game. Once Duncan retires, Pop will lose a valuable ally in the locker room. Younger players are much less likely to put up with his bs in the long term.
the spurs most likely weren't winning the championship anyways, and furthermore they peaked too soon (february). Parker hasn't been playing phenomenal like he was earlier in the season either, and that's partly what made the Spurs "deadly". When he comes back down to earth and plays like the player he is the Spurs are just a great playoff team
[quote=BasedTom]:wtf:
What is even the point of waiving players this close to the playoffs? SJax is a great talent and the Spurs just got rid of him for nothing. There must have been some SERIOUS locker room trouble with him to warrant this move.[/quote]Jax hasn't been in a "great talent" in a good while. He's probably done in the NBA.
[QUOTE=alexd][B]yeah but with moves like these he keeps his locker room in place[/B].you get attitude and cause problems?gtfo we don t need you.it s coach first and players after.not the other way around.for spurs a players attitude is more important than his talent.i believe pop had reasons to let him loose.spurs is a serious organization that think twice before they act on everything like who players they get who draft etc etc[/QUOTE]
i believe this is the main reason why he got dropped.locker room peace,role hierarchy and team chemistry is very higly regarded in spurs franchise
SJackson stats in the months prior to April
Feb: 16 mpg, 5 ppg ([B].38 FG%[/B]) ... Spurs 8 wins/3 losses
Mar: 16 mpg, 5 ppg (.[B]40 FG%[/B]) ... Spurs 10 wins/4 losses
- I don't think the Spurs are really reliant on him like say GS was a handful of years ago. Jackson is aged and temperamental, but he does provide a defensive intensity. If he's gone right now, like this, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the Spurs best players (Duncan in particular) even saw this coming. This def seems like somewhat of a premeditated move, as reported.
[QUOTE=fragokota]i believe this is the main reason why he got dropped.locker room peace,role hierarchy and team chemistry is very higly regarded in spurs franchise[/QUOTE]
But is that enough reason to waive him this late in the season? It's the playoffs, you stick with what you have until you win or lose. He was off the books after this season anyway. It would only make sense if they sign someone during the next few days.
[QUOTE=Droid101]I'm baffled. First dumb move by the Spurs since the Scola trade that I can think of off hand.[/QUOTE]
Don't assume it was a dumb move. Jackson can be a huge pain in the butt. Maybe something had gone beyond repairable.
Spurs have certainly earned the benefit of the doubt from NBA fans over the years. Clearly more than Jackson ever did.
[QUOTE=Haymaker]But is that enough reason to waive him this late in the season? It's the playoffs, you stick with what you have until you win or lose. He was off the books after this season anyway. It would only make sense if they sign someone during the next few days.[/QUOTE]
No one doubts that this move could hurt them in the short term,hell i bet even pop and the management acknowledges that,but in the long term moves like that have made the spurs who they are.when there is a problem you better deal with it firmly and while it's still in the beggining so you can set the example
[QUOTE=daily]Don't assume it was a dumb move. Jackson can be a huge pain in the butt. Maybe something had gone beyond repairable.
Spurs have certainly earned the benefit of the doubt from NBA fans over the years. Clearly more than Jackson ever did.[/QUOTE]
You stick with what you got until your season ends with a title or elimination at this point. Especially when your roster is dropping like flies.
I know he wan't playing particularly well this year, but as a Thunder fan I'm still glad to see him go. It seemed like he never missed from three in the WCF last year and he could actually somewhat effectively guard Durant.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1h
Gregg Popovich and Stephen Jackson have been sparring over Jax's role throughout season; disagreements resurfaced this week, source tells Y!
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1h
Spurs and Jackson discussed a release prior to trade deadline, but sides agreed to go forward together for rest of season, source says.
[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--spurs-waive-stephen-jackson-after-disagreements-about-his-role-223252495.html[/url]
Full article.
Spurs gonna get worked over by OKC for sure now if they meet in the playoffs.
That just doesn't even make sense. Why get rid of him now? I mean it's been this long, just wait until the season is over. He's not going to hurt you as a backup SF.
I'm pretty baffled.
He would be a good backup for KD next season. Good acquisition if signed for cheap for anybody.
Dude pretty much carried the Spurs in Game 6 of last year's WCF.
What an incredible dick move by the Spurs organization to wait he's ineligible to be picked up for the playoffs.
[QUOTE=Doranku]What an incredible dick move by the Spurs organization to wait he's ineligible to be picked up for the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
It was a mutual decision. Spurs even offered to waive him earlier and let him play for any team he liked. Seems like deep inside he still wanted the Spurs to offer him some kind of extension. He clearly loved playing there.
I'm not a Spurs fan, but I like this move from an organizational standpoint, it reinforces the fact that the Spurs are a team instead of a bunch of players. They won't tolerate a disruptive influence, especially at this time of year. He is past his prime and while he could contribute big plays here an there, he clearly wasn't worth the HR troubles the Spurs thought he was capable of causing.
Guess its time to pursue dat rap career then? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=KG215]I know he wan't playing particularly well this year, but as a Thunder fan I'm still glad to see him go. It seemed like he never missed from three in the WCF last year and he could actually somewhat effectively guard Durant.[/QUOTE]
Maybe this is just Pop throwing in the towel on the post season - with Manu's torn hamstring and Diaw's surgery, Spurs won't make it to the WCF to play KD or to the Finals to play Lebron. Stupid move if you ask me.
Assuming SAS/HOU/GSW/DEN stay on the same bracket, SJax wouldn't be needed in the first 2 rounds. But if by chance, they made it to the WCF/Finals, SJax's defense will be sorely missed.
spurs trying hard to tank to avoid the lakers
There needs to be substantial sanctions here, if you have managed with the locker room issues till now then you can wait a few weeks till playoffs end
People realize that Jackson has been really awful this season, right? They have a 15 man roster has it is and veteran leadership is nice (although do the Spurs really need that?) but they were going to have to make 2 cuts for their playoff roster anyway (and part of the tension probably stemmed from the fact that Pop wasn't going to put him on the playoff roster anyway), especially considering they more useful players on the roster already.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]People need to stop thinking that Pop is infallible. Imo, he's just a stubborn, angry old man determined to get his way no matter what the consequences.
Still a great coach, but when the Spurs exit in the 1st or 2nd round, some needed scrutiny will be coming Pop's way.[/QUOTE]
Great coach my a$$
1. Knocked out of the 1st round in 2011
2. Lost 4 straight in the WCF after going up 2-0
Bad move by the Spurs Front Office. Captain Jack is still a good defensive player. We might see him play in the PBA in the Governor's Cup.
[QUOTE=dunksby]Apparently he "aint bout dis life".[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Bad move by the Spurs Front Office. Captain Jack is still a good defensive player. [B]We might see him play in the PBA in the Governor's Cup.[/B][/QUOTE]
lolno.
if kawhi hits foul trouble, who do they throw on durant?
[QUOTE=Fudge]lolno.[/QUOTE]
Anything is Possible. 2x NBA Champion DJ Mbenga is currently playing for the Barako Bull.
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[QUOTE=sportsfan76]Great coach my a$$
1. Knocked out of the 1st round in 2011
2. Lost 4 straight in the WCF after going up 2-0[/QUOTE]
yeah you are right.winning championships,being in the playoffs every year,draft hidden gems almost every year,get respect from all his players and his opponents,being leader of the team instead of letting players do what they want,developing players..what a lousy coach and organisiation.i got an idea.trade him with dantoni and lets see who goes better la or spurs:facepalm
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more I think about it, more I'm reminded of Michael Finley's departure from SA a few years ago... veteran player on his last legs complaining about his role and minutes... team and player eventually had enough, waived during the season.
[QUOTE=SCdac]more I think about it, more I'm reminded of Michael Finley's departure from SA a few years ago... veteran player on his last legs complaining about his role and minutes... team and player eventually had enough, waived during the season.[/QUOTE]
Great, does that mean Jax will come to Boston and suck like Finley?
[QUOTE=Bandito]How...Why...could somebody explain to me why would they do this?[/QUOTE]
Cause he is a Jack-ass that hurts team chemistry? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Cause he is a Jack-ass that hurts team chemistry? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
That's Captain Jack-ass to you, buddy. :coleman:
1st round exit.............:facepalm