Am I the only one who thinks Miami would sweep Memphis? not tryna sound cocky. :confusedshrug:
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Am I the only one who thinks Miami would sweep Memphis? not tryna sound cocky. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Carbine]One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low and too good on the offensive boards.
Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.
Interesting series due to matchups.[/QUOTE]
No the heat can mix and match lineups better than anyone and they would figure out what works best for them. Bron would at times cover zbo btw.
[QUOTE=Carbine]One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or [B]Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low[/B] and too good on the offensive boards.
Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.
Interesting series due to matchups.[/QUOTE]
Lebron will push and shove ZBo as hard as he can and won't get called for a foul. And when 1/10th of it is done to him on the other end, he will flop and get the call. And not just once in a while. Every. Single. Time.
[QUOTE=Carbine]One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 [/QUOTE]
Says who?
Miami will double team, and front the post constantly against Memphis, and gang rebound. LeBron, Wade, and Battier will be digging. And on the other end, Bosh is going to force one of Zbo or Gasol out of the paint. If they are going to camp out under the rim all series, Bosh is going drain 18-20 footers all series. Just like he's doing against Noah/Boozer. That simple.
The Heat are the most skilled and most versatile team in the NBA. There is no matchup that Miami cannot hold their own against, of the remaining teams in the post-season. Dudes are kidding themselves.
[QUOTE=STATUTORY]lettuce be real, there's no way in hell David Stern would allow a bunch of no superstar, unknown to the public players dethrone the Heat. refs gonna bring their A game in the series[/QUOTE]
I'm quite certain you're wearing a tin foil hat right now.
[QUOTE=2010splash]Just spit my drink out laughing. Grizzlies beating the Heat? Hahahahaha, that's a good one. A team whose best player is Marc Gasol beating a top 3 team in NBA history led by LeBron James... :roll: :roll:
Heat would stomp the Grizzlies.[/QUOTE]
yea i know grizzlies beating tha knicks?:roll:
[QUOTE=Kingwillball]See here is the thing the Bulls and Pacers are very similar to Memphis in how they are built. If the Heat play and beat Pacers they will be ready to handle and deal with Memphis as the Pacers are Memphis East basically. Heat beat them in 5 or 6 assuming Wade can actually contribute.[/QUOTE]
if tha heat play tha knicks.
[QUOTE=Carbine]One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low and too good on the offensive boards.
Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.
Interesting series due to matchups.[/QUOTE]
OKC's best offensive stretches in this series have come when they had their smallball lineup in the game. They didn't get a stop every time, but they've made more runs and have played their best ball of the series with Durant at PF and Ibaka or Collison at C.
OKC's basically a slightly worse version of the Heat. Limited inside game with a stretch PF; an elite do-it-all wing; and a slashing/scoring guard. Obviously OKC doesn't have their Dwyane Wade, but they're still taking the Grizzlies to the limit. I'm thinking OKC wins this series in 5 with Westbrook, so I' inclined to believe Miami would do the same or sweep them
[QUOTE=alleykat]Ill bet u 200 u won't make that bet forreal[/QUOTE]
If you do this, and he pays his initial bet, you've effectively paid it for him. If he wins, he's 400$ richer. The OP should take this bet. :rockon:
[QUOTE=2010splash]Just spit my drink out laughing. Grizzlies beating the Heat? Hahahahaha, that's a good one. A team whose best player is Marc Gasol beating a top 3 team in NBA history led by LeBron James... :roll: :roll:
Heat would stomp the Grizzlies.[/QUOTE]
This post would have applied to Dallas too.
[QUOTE=Carbine]One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low and too good on the offensive boards.
Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.
Interesting series due to matchups.[/QUOTE]
Playing Bron or Battier at the 4 creates a mismatch on both sides. Randolph cannot play defense on either of those two on the perimeter. Randolph would just get double teamed as soon as he touched the ball.
The heat and grizzlies would be a great match up if they meet in the finals. But guaranteeing a memphis finals victory is pretty stupid. Probably just trolling for attention.
[QUOTE]So are people actually watching this series, and coming away impressed by the Grizzlies? Everyone is aware that OKC doesn't have Westbrook, has had Ibaka play like shit 3 of the 4 games, and allows Kendrick Perkins to actually put on a uniform and step on the floor for....right?
And despite all that, every single game has gone to the wire.[/QUOTE]
Have you been watching this series? Memphis does not try to put up 120 points. They like to play a slow pace and grind it out. The score is going to be lower and closer . Hence why the thunder are averaging about 15 points less a game against memphis. What matters is the win. You point out all of these things okc is sucking at.... Are the grizzlies playing the best they possibly can? Prince is sucking on offense, Arthur is sucking on both sides of the court, and Bayless has been streaky. There have been games this series where statistically yall are beating us at almost every category. But we find ways to win. Im sorry your team is down 3-1, but dont take anything away from the grizzlies. We beat you guys 2-1 during the regular season with westbrook with your only win being the 1st game after the gay trade where we only had like 8 players dressed out , none of the players we traded or traded for.
I think they can make the Finals, but I just can't see them scoring enough to beat the Heat unless they absolutely lock Miami down.
The Heat likely goes with the same line up they do every time they play a team with two bigs.
Bosh / Birdman
Battier
LeBron
Wade / Allen
Chalmers / Cole
Somebody at PF is going to play defense out of their comfort zone by having to stick Battier or LeBron. Neither Z-Bo nor Gasol are going to want to camp out on the outside. OKC has tried doing this a few times with Durant at the 4, but that gives Memphis too much of an advantage on the boards.
Miami has done a good job against the Bulls thus far of not letting the size advantage get out of control.
tha pacers and heat will not go to tha finals, so its gonna be knicks vs grizzzlies or knicks vs spurs or knicks vs warriors, those are tha possible matchups.
I agree with the Grizzlies not being able to score enough. That's my biggest concern/problem after watching them this series. They're just not able to create any kind of consistent separation and hold on it against a team without a 23 PPG scorer. I think they'd give the Heat some tight games, but wouldn't have enough offense in the end.
:roll: [QUOTE=willds09]tha pacers and heat will not go to tha finals, so its gonna be knicks vs grizzzlies or knicks vs spurs or knicks vs warriors, those are tha possible matchups.[/QUOTE]
:roll: delusional knick fan i feel sorry for you
knicks aint gon SNIFF the nba finals, J.R Smith will make sure of that :oldlol:
Grizz in 6 NBA CHAMPIONS
[QUOTE=doinitbig06]:roll:
:roll: delusional knick fan i feel sorry for you
knicks aint gon SNIFF the nba finals, J.R Smith will make sure of that :oldlol:
Grizz in 6 NBA CHAMPIONS[/QUOTE]
knicks in 6 to whoever. J.R Smith will come back to tha 6th man of tha year that he iz too, watch.
Grizz will use their height and will pound hard. The rebound discrepancy will be huge. Unless Miami sweeps Knicks/Indiana it seems like Wade's knees will greatly hinder him. Lebron has shown some signs of not being super efficient and sometimes seems aggravated that he can't penetrate (this can change next series tho). Miami isn't playing the same ball that put them on the winning streak now.
Cons
The Heat possibly could have gone thru two great defenses to get to Memphis and just might go crazy (not that Memphis isn't good defensively). Chicago and Indiana (the Knicks aren't) are good preparation for Miami. They are pounding teams and Indiana is taller. Prince has had problems with Lebron before. Zbo and Gasol are very good defensively but Bosh, Haslem and Batt are very elusive. Z and G play in a position that is easiest to double as well.
I think the Heat are too fast, experienced and too good at every position offensively to lose. Zbo or Gasol will need at least a couple of 30 point games between them which I don't see happening. Bosh is likely to cancel out one of them.
Miami would sweep this team, tbh.
Heat in 5. If Wades knee becomes a problem then Heat in 6.
[QUOTE=chosen_one6]Playing Bron or Battier at the 4 creates a mismatch on both sides. Randolph cannot play defense on either of those two on the perimeter. Randolph would just get double teamed as soon as he touched the ball.[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't. Memphis would just put Randolph on a spot up shooter, whether that's Ray Allen or Battier....and put Prince or Tony Allen on Bron. If Miami's offense becomes "give the ball to Battier or Ray Allen" to try and exploit Randolph, I believe that favors Memphis because the ball won't be in Brons hands.
[QUOTE=PJR]Says who?
Miami will double team, and front the post constantly against Memphis, and gang rebound. LeBron, Wade, and Battier will be digging. And on the other end, Bosh is going to force one of Zbo or Gasol out of the paint. If they are going to camp out under the rim all series, Bosh is going drain 18-20 footers all series. Just like he's doing against Noah/Boozer. That simple.
The Heat are the most skilled and most versatile team in the NBA. There is no matchup that Miami cannot hold their own against, of the remaining teams in the post-season. Dudes are kidding themselves.[/QUOTE]
You can front all you want, but Gasol is a fantastic passer, maybe the best passing big in the league...it's pretty easy for him to flash to the middle and dump it over the defense for a lay up attempt.
Out of all the remaining teams, Memphis creates the most matchup problems against them. I've always though it was going to take a dominant front court with an elite perimeter defender and a legit playmaker on offense in the backcourt to beat this Miami team. Memphis has those assets.
Dam some of these guys must not be watching Memphis. If Memphis bigs are fronted, they have 2 different high guys to throw an entry pass. The thing is they have a wing player at the elbow 3 point line, one big on the free throw line, and one big posted. If they front, get the ball to the high post and that fronted defender will now be sealed for an easy layup. If the weakside comes to help, it leaves a player open in the opposite corner. If you watch the games, this is Memphis main offense. Different variations that causes switches and what not, but we run no curls quick off ball screens to score. Every play is ran with the intention to past the ball to the low post man. Even Arthurs midrange shots come from this same play.
I'm rooting for this matchup, definitely the best chance of taking out Miami which would make Memphis America's team. But the Heat might take a page from the '90s Bulls and just swarm/trap the perimeter so the ball can't even get to the bigs. It'd be up to Conley to make good plays under pressure...dunno how I feel about that.
I guarantee the Knicks will NOT win a championship, chance of this happening is 100%, and I win.
:D
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]I guarantee the Knicks will NOT win a championship, chance of this happening is 100%, and I win.
:D[/QUOTE]
u bet?:D
Will bump when they get knocked out in conference finals.
They barely beat the Thunder team without Goatbrook, the same team that lost to the Heat last year WITH Westbrook and Harden:lol
[QUOTE=willds09]u bet?:D[/QUOTE]
I already did.
:lol
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]I already did.
:lol[/QUOTE]
I aint scared of you motherphuckerz (bernie mac's voice):lol
if this happens mike conley will be guarded by lebron because conley will kill both chalmers and cole :D
[QUOTE=willds09]I aint scared of you motherphuckerz (bernie mac's voice):lol[/QUOTE]
If so, why did you wait this long to accept a deal I proposed a week ago? Look at you, you are shivering in fear, you probably regret your decision already.
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]If so, why did you wait this long to accept a deal I proposed a week ago? Look at you, you are shivering in fear, you probably regret your decision already.[/QUOTE]
I forgot, but I aint scared tho we got this :D
[QUOTE=willds09]I forgot, but I aint scared tho we got this :D[/QUOTE]
Hopefully you can still be as confident as you are 2-3 weeks from now.
:lol
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Hopefully you can still be as confident as you are 2-3 weeks from now.
:lol[/QUOTE]
yea cuz we will still be in tha playoffs or finals by then:oldlol:
u should put the money on a bookmaker. better odds and 100% sure money!
[QUOTE=stephanieg]I'm rooting for this matchup, definitely the best chance of taking out Miami which would make Memphis America's team. But the Heat might take a page from the '90s Bulls and just swarm/trap the perimeter so the ball can't even get to the bigs. It'd be up to Conley to make good plays under pressure...dunno how I feel about that.[/QUOTE]
Spo isnt a good enough coach to do that.
The Heat started to do a full court press on the Bulls in their series, they got turnovers, Bulls ran out of time to get a good shot off, then the team went back to zone defense when the press was working? :wtf: Spo doesnt know or doesnt recognise matchup problems often enough for the Heat to swarm/trap Memphis on a consistent basis. Lebron pretty much runs this team, Spo is just there for encouragement and stupid cliche phrases and maybe one or two common plays all coaches know how to do.
[QUOTE=InfiniteBaskets]The Heat likely goes with the same line up they do every time they play a team with two bigs.
Bosh / Birdman
Battier
LeBron
Wade / Allen
Chalmers / Cole
Somebody at PF is going to play defense out of their comfort zone by having to stick Battier or LeBron. Neither Z-Bo nor Gasol are going to want to camp out on the outside. OKC has tried doing this a few times with Durant at the 4, but that gives Memphis too much of an advantage on the boards.
Miami has done a good job against the Bulls thus far of not letting the size advantage get out of control.[/QUOTE]
Zbo would eat up Battier and/or Lebron on the boards. Im afraid the refs would get Zach in foul trouble though with all their flopping...
[QUOTE=Twiens]Zbo would eat up Battier and/or Lebron on the boards. Im afraid the refs would get Zach in foul trouble though with all their flopping...[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
I could imagine Battier and Lebron going into full-flop mode too. They are going to harass and fustrate Z-bo no end. If anyone saw the Bulls series, Battier was allowed to foul the shit out of Noah and the refs never called it. Z-Bo will likely get called with alot of fouls when he positions for an offensive rebound and the Heat players jostle and pull at him, only for Z-bo to get more physical and have the foul called on him.
I'm starting to get negative on the NBA, I watch it because I'm passionate about basketball, but in the back of my mind I know the result and why. The process of rigging is so complex that the casual fan won't see it and the cronies will continue to make money off the stars and the big teams. With the few exceptions like 2004, this league more than ever before is geared towards stars in star teams having success. 2002 is a reminder of the fact that rigging games is present.
[QUOTE=poido123]Spo isnt a good enough coach to do that.
The Heat started to do a full court press on the Bulls in their series, they got turnovers, Bulls ran out of time to get a good shot off, then the team went back to zone defense when the press was working? :wtf: Spo doesnt know or doesnt recognise matchup problems often enough for the Heat to swarm/trap Memphis on a consistent basis. Lebron pretty much runs this team, Spo is just there for encouragement and stupid cliche phrases and maybe one or two common plays all coaches know how to do.[/QUOTE]
You are clueless. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=PJR]You are clueless. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
That sounds like a butthurt response :oldlol:
Very insightful, by all means break down why I'm wrong dude, i know you're a Heat fan just so you know...