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he didn't even go at anyone. he wasn't said mother ****er in a harmful way. it was more of a joke. whatever, it's his money and not mine but to me it did not seem disrespectful and more so informative. why the **** does the stupid media vote for awards anyways?:facepalm
Stern has no sense of humor. He is a fascist dictator. Cant wait for him to retire.
[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]he didn't even go at anyone. he wasn't said mother ****er in a harmful way. it was more of a joke. whatever, it's his money and not mine but to me it did not seem disrespectful and more so informative. why the **** does the stupid media vote for awards anyways?:facepalm[/QUOTE]
how was mother[B]fuc[/B]ker not said in a harmful way? If your boss who you don't know too well comes to you and calls you a mother[B]fuc[/B]ker loudly in front of the whole office for not doing your job well, is it not harmful as well?
Hibbert hasn't been doing his job as a player too well for majority of his career. Should media start calling him a mother[B]fuc[/B]ker too?
[QUOTE=305Baller]Stern has no sense of humor. He is a fascist dictator. Cant wait for him to retire.[/QUOTE]
:applause: :applause: :applause:
[QUOTE=Rameek][B][COLOR="Navy"]The fine should be using profanity on TV but not for the No Mo that isnt even a slur.:facepalm [/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="Navy"]This is funny[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]
It's not a gay slur, ESPN and the media got it wrong but it's still an insensitive remark because you know people(media and activist groups) will twist it the wrong way, which they already have.
The fine was a little excessive but you can't blame the NBA for trying to cover their own butts. If the NBA didn't do anything about it, you know damn well some media watchdog group will make a big deal out of it.
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]how was mother[B]fuc[/B]ker not said in a harmful way? If your boss who you don't know too well comes to you and calls you a mother[B]fuc[/B]ker loudly in front of the whole office for not doing your job well, is it not harmful as well?
Hibbert hasn't been doing his job as a player too well for majority of his career. Should media start calling him a mother[B]fuc[/B]ker too?[/QUOTE]
your being sensitive. he didn't say it with an attitude is what i'm saying. he was laughing while saying it therefore implying it was in a joking manner and not to be taken serious but as informative. he certainly wasn't mad at the media. he just won a game 6 and forced a game 7 and personally "I" laughed at the situation. the media is stupid. if i was a player, i'd HATE them.
[QUOTE=DMV2]It's not a gay slur, ESPN and the media got it wrong but it's still an insensitive remark because you know people(media and activist groups) will twist it the wrong way, which they already have.
The fine was a little excessive but you can't blame the NBA for trying to cover their own butts. If the NBA didn't do anything about it, you damn well some media watchdog group will make a big deal out of it.[/QUOTE]
Hibbert put Stern in a position where they basically had to fine him to cover their own asses. All in all its no big deal, Hibbert didn't harm anyone and a fine equivalent to 0.6% of his annual salary isn't going to bankrupt Hibbert.
[QUOTE=305Baller]Stern has no sense of humor. He is a fascist dictator. Cant wait for him to retire.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: When Stern starts using secret police to kill people then you will have a point. No player actually has to pay any of Stern's fines. They could always choose to leave the NBA. Stern has been the greatest commissioner in American sports history. Where the NBA was when Stern took over, to where it is now. Stern is the GOAT commissioner.
[QUOTE=bagelred]That is alot of money for a joke that isn't really a gay slur, more like a bad joke....kinda like "that's what she said."
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GPImySGLcc[/url]
Oversensitive America. Thought control. Must conform.[/QUOTE]
You realize the humor in the early seasons of the office was that no real manager in a corporate environment could have done a quarter of that and kept his job?
[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]your being sensitive. he didn't say it with an attitude is what i'm saying. he was laughing while saying it therefore implying it was in a joking manner and not to be taken serious but as informative. he certainly wasn't mad at the media. he just won a game 6 and forced a game 7 and personally "I" laughed at the situation. the media is stupid. if i was a player, i'd HATE them.[/QUOTE]
he did say it with an attitude. Were you not watching? wtf is wrong with nba fans? The "no homo" thing is fine with me but calling the media members mother[B]fuc[/B]kers was just wrong no matter how you see it.
Do most of you people have real jobs? Jobs have rules. Some jobs require you to travel or take people out, etc. During those times (for jobs that don't make people $12M) if you say something really dumb, you might get scolded, lose money (bonus, etc.) or get fired. Roy Hibbert has a job where he is required to talk to the media. During that time he has rules. He broke the rules, and thus he got fined.
He makes $12M A YEAR. And some of you are butthurt on his behalf he's acted not to talk like an immature teenager for the 30 minutes or so (at most) he needs to talk to the media. And this was after a win. Where you just need to talk about positive things. EVERYTHING IS POSITIVE. And he called the media "mother****ers".
I don't feel bad for him, sorry.
[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]your being sensitive. he didn't say it with an attitude is what i'm saying. he was laughing while saying it therefore implying it was in a joking manner and not to be taken serious but as informative. he certainly wasn't mad at the media. he just won a game 6 and forced a game 7 and personally "I" laughed at the situation. the media is stupid. if i was a player, i'd HATE them.[/QUOTE]
He actually did say it with an attitude, it doesn't sound like you heard the comments, it sounds like you read them. He was basically being pissy over not being shown enough respect. It was not respectful and playful.
[QUOTE=niko]Do most of you people have real jobs? Jobs have rules. Some jobs require you to travel or take people out, etc. During those times (for jobs that don't make people $12M) if you say something really dumb, you might get scolded, lose money (bonus, etc.) or get fired. Roy Hibbert has a job where he is required to talk to the media. During that time he has rules. He broke the rules, and thus he got fined.
He makes $12M A YEAR. And some of you are butthurt on his behalf he's acted not to talk like an immature teenager for the 30 minutes or so (at most) he needs to talk to the media. And this was after a win. Where you just need to talk about positive things. EVERYTHING IS POSITIVE. And he called the media "mother****ers".
I don't feel bad for him, sorry.[/QUOTE]
Most posters here have no job otherwise they would know that you can't use the word "mother[B]fuc[/B]ker" like hibbert used. He was very serious while using it too unlike when he used the "no homo" part when he was joking.
This guy plays in the best league in the world and is on a max contract.
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]Most posters here have no job otherwise they would know that you can't use the word "mother[B]fuc[/B]ker" like hibbert used. He was very serious while using it too unlike when he used the "no homo" part when he was joking.
This guy plays in the best league in the world and is on a max contract.[/QUOTE]
I've often in my life traveled on business, there is a ton of rules written and unwritten in your behavior. There is no "on my own time". And a lot of things depend on the audience and their reaction. It's part of being an adult and people paying you to do things.
[QUOTE=niko]Do most of you people have real jobs? Jobs have rules. Some jobs require you to travel or take people out, etc. During those times (for jobs that don't make people $12M) if you say something really dumb, you might get scolded, lose money (bonus, etc.) or get fired. Roy Hibbert has a job where he is required to talk to the media. During that time he has rules. He broke the rules, and thus he got fined.
He makes $12M A YEAR. And some of you are butthurt on his behalf he's acted not to talk like an immature teenager for the 30 minutes or so (at most) he needs to talk to the media. And this was after a win. Where you just need to talk about positive things. EVERYTHING IS POSITIVE. And he called the media "mother****ers".
I don't feel bad for him, sorry.[/QUOTE]
I don't have a problem with him being fined. He knew he would when said it (the motherf*cker part)
I have a problem with an ingame issue that has not been addressed properly.
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]Most posters here have no job otherwise they would know that you can't use the word "mother[B]fuc[/B]ker" like hibbert used. He was very serious while using it too unlike when he used the "no homo" part when he was joking.
This guy plays in the best league in the world and is on a max contract.[/QUOTE]
people are confusing the fact that he said " you guys are mother****ers" with "ya mother****ers don't even watch us play"
they sound like the same but the second is worse. whatever, not going to argue. but im glad roy said that. i hate media in general and they deserve it in whichever way it was meant to be said.:lol
[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]I don't have a problem with him being fined. He knew he would when said it (the motherf*cker part)
I have a problem with an ingame issue that has not been addressed properly.[/QUOTE]
the flopping? It's a ****ing joke. The way the league handles it is retarded, random, and not only doesn't help the problem, it makes it even worst.
[QUOTE=niko]I've often in my life traveled on business, there is a ton of rules written and unwritten in your behavior. There is no "on my own time". And a lot of things depend on the audience and their reaction. It's part of being an adult and people paying you to do things.[/QUOTE]
This. I am in india right now which is one of the most racist countries i have been to and still people don't say stupid shit in the office.
we're all black friends
lmao
[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]people are confusing the fact that he said " you guys are mother****ers" with "ya mother****ers don't even watch us play"
they sound like the same but the second is worse. whatever, not going to argue. but im glad roy said that. i hate media in general and they deserve it in whichever way it was meant to be said.:lol[/QUOTE]
Will you be fine if media/coaches started calling players "mother[B]fuc[/B]kers" in the same manner hibbert did if media feels that the player is not playing well as clearly hibbert was mad at media for not doing their job properly? These players make way more than any media member present at that press conference.
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]Will you be fine if media/coaches started calling players "mother****ers" in the same manner hibbert did if media feels that the player is not playing well as clearly hibbert was mad at media for not doing their job properly.[/QUOTE]
The media already has the power to destroy players and some do. Calling the players a motherphucker wouldn't be any more of an insult
[QUOTE=Rik Smits' Hair]The media already has the power to destroy players and some do. Calling the players a motherphucker wouldn't be any more of an insult[/QUOTE]
yes, it would be and you must be very young if you think otherwise.
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]yes, it would be and you must be very young if you think otherwise.[/QUOTE]
What's with the young stuff? Is that you guys' default argument?
[QUOTE=Rik Smits' Hair]What's with the young stuff? Is that you guys' default argument?[/QUOTE]
I never call someone "kid" on internet but you just said that calling someone "mother****er" in a press conference isn't that big of a deal.
People who work minimum wage jobs can't to do that. these players make a lot of money playing the best basketball league in the world. Anyone can see it. the video gets posted on youtube and then is shared on facebook where every kid can see it.
How does this not make you seem young?
there is a big difference in how the world works and how you want the world to work.
[QUOTE=Rik Smits' Hair]What's with the young stuff? Is that you guys' default argument?[/QUOTE]
He meant immature.
If there is anyone that doesn't believe Hibbert ****ed up, you may be mentally challenged.
[QUOTE=Derka]I can turn on my TV right now and watch all manner of deplorable violence being acted out right there. But don't you DARE utter a no-no word on television or you're going to pay.
But you know...freedom and all that.
'Murica, ladies and gentlemen.[/QUOTE]
This is just the type of stupid I can't stand..Freedom does not mean you can say whatever you want and not be in trouble with the person you work for. He used a gay slur ( only an idiot would deny this ) and he represents the NBA. OF course he is going to be in trouble for it..If not then everyone should be able to use the N-word all say in their press conferences. Is this what you are saying? Because there is violence of TV that the NBA should allow anyone to say anything they want? Is this actually what you are saying?
[QUOTE=bagelred]That is alot of money for a joke that isn't really a gay slur, more like a bad joke....kinda like "that's what she said."
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GPImySGLcc[/url]
Oversensitive America. Thought control. Must conform.[/QUOTE]
Are you a complete moron. Of course its a gay slur. Its not much different then the N-word..
So you are actually saying the NBA should allow everyone to say anything anytime they want..Really..
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]I strongly believe that he got fined for using the word mother[B]fuc[/B]kers. No one outside of ESPN thinks "no homo" is a gay slur.
.[/QUOTE]
Your an idiot..Homo is a gay slur..Are you people serious?
[QUOTE=stanlove1111]Are you a complete moron. Of course its a gay slur. Its not much different then the N-word..
So you are actually saying the NBA should allow everyone to say anything anytime they want..Really..[/QUOTE]
Stanlove, what makes you think its a gay "slur"? Please enlighten me.
[QUOTE=305Baller]Stanlove, what makes you think its a gay "slur"? Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]
because Homo is a gay slur..You really have to be told this..
Just to fill you in because obviously you have no clue..Don't go up to a gay guy and call him a homo..he won't like it..
I can't believe this thread..
[QUOTE=stanlove1111]because Homo is a gay slur..You really have to be told this..
Just to fill you in because obviously you have no clue..Don't go up to a gay guy and call him a homo..he won't like it..
I can't believe this thread..[/QUOTE]
are you gay?
[QUOTE=stanlove1111]because Homo is a gay slur..You really have to be told this..
Just to fill you in because obviously you have no clue..Don't go up to a gay guy and call him a homo..he won't like it..
I can't believe this thread..[/QUOTE]
He didn't call anyone a homo. He used a phrase that a lot of people apparently don't understand
It may not be a gay slur but it is still a crude and tasteless joke about butt sex. He also said mother fcker. Kobe was fined 100k for "fcking f@ggot", a clear gay slur. 75k for what Hibbert said is very fair.
[QUOTE=Rik Smits' Hair]He didn't call anyone a homo. He used a phrase that a lot of people apparently don't understand[/QUOTE]
i don't think it is a gay slur but it could be taken the same way like if a white player said that "i never stole anything in my life, i am not black".
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]i don't think it is a gay slur but it could be taken the same way like if a white player said that "i never stole anything in my life, i am not black".[/QUOTE]
What? How is that even in the same ballpark?
difference between pause and no homo?
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]i don't think it is a gay slur but it could be taken the same way like if a white player said that "i never stole anything in my life, i am not black".[/QUOTE]
If you don't think the word HOMO is a gay slur you better educate yourself..It is..It has been for decades.. I know Hibbert did didn't mean anything by it but its not much different then using the n-word...
[QUOTE=Rik Smits' Hair]He didn't call anyone a homo. He used a phrase that a lot of people apparently don't understand[/QUOTE]
Ok this really has to be explained to you...Homo is a gay slur...he is no homo, meanimg he is not a home..This means he was referring to gay people as homos..Once again that is a gay slur..
This thread shows again how dumb many people are..
The freaking guy used a gay slur. many people would be fired for using that at wor. How old are you?
[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]75k for something that didn't impact the game at all.
Yet only 5-10k for this:
[IMG]http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/51aaa8c46bb3f7ca5a00000b/lebron-pacers-flop.gif[/IMG]
NBA = :facepalm[/QUOTE]
[SIZE="6"]FLOPPING KING ALL HOMO[/SIZE]
[QUOTE=bluechox2]difference between pause and no homo?[/QUOTE]
Who cares? :facepalm
The NBA's statement said he was fined for his remarks, it says nothing about gay slurs. They aren't about to start a national debate on homosexuality by defending such a stupid phrase like "no homo". At best it was a crude joke about butt sex, at worst it was offensive to gay people. Either way he shouldn't have said it, and he shouldn't have said mother fcker either.
Hibbert's statements have brought a ton of negative press to his team and to the NBA. If you think this fine is unfair you are a moron.
[QUOTE=stanlove1111]Ok this really has to be explained to you...Homo is a gay slur...he is no homo, meanimg he is not a home..This means he was referring to gay people as homos..Once again that is a gay slur..
This thread shows again how dumb many people are..
The freaking guy used a gay slur. many people would be fired for using that at wor. How old are you?[/QUOTE]
Homo is not a slur. Do you even know what the definition of slur is? How does saying the word 'homo' insult or damage the reputation of gay people?
Gay people ARE homosexual.
He wasn't being derogatory.
He didn't say, "Gay people are retarded." He didn't call anybody a homo.
[QUOTE=ProfessorMurder]Homo is not a slur. Do you even know what the definition of slur is? How does saying the word 'homo' insult or damage the reputation of gay people?
Gay people ARE homosexual.
He wasn't being derogatory.
He didn't say, "Gay people are retarded." He didn't call anybody a homo.[/QUOTE]
if a white guy says that "i will never steal, i am not black". will you be fine ?