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[QUOTE=Xsatyr]Your PC comments don't stand. Your whole arguement has been flawed from the start. But I understand you hate gay people and your entitled to your opinion.[/QUOTE]
Answer the quest!on.
Th!s !sn't a lawyer com!ng out and say!ng that he's gay. !t's a guy that shared the same lockerroom w!th other men.
The guy was a nobody and fell out of the league, now he's selling books and going on talk shows
[QUOTE=konex]More than half the states in this country have a ban on gay marriage yet folks are acting like this is some sort of outrage. I love the media :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Yeah slavery was really not that bad back in the day bc most people were ok with it. I completely understand your reasoning.
[QUOTE=konex]More than half the states in this country have a ban on gay marriage yet folks are acting like this is some sort of outrage. I love the media :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:( unfortunately I think this is going to be a main thing he gets remembered for.
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]Yeah slavery was really not that bad back in the day bc most people were ok with it. I completely understand your reasoning.[/QUOTE]
Look, the guy's a bigot but I find it funny how the media is trashing him like most folks in the country don't feel the same way...
[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]Answer the quest!on.
Th!s !sn't a lawyer com!ng out and say!ng that he's gay. !t's a guy that shared the same lockerroom w!th other men.[/QUOTE]
And? Get over it, not everyone is going to be like you. If your that scared of gay people don't do anything in a men's locker room. You obviously do not like gay people like many others so they are not going to tell people, whoever does not like gay people get out of the shower. I am gay and I need to take a shower. People like you judge them and try to push them down like racist people did towards blacks. It is not like they get their own showers, deal with it.
[QUOTE=Tarik One]No different than Karl Malone's remarks about Magic's HIV years ago. I don't see the big deal. He's only echoing many other's opinions. I find it somewhat admirable.[/QUOTE]
lets see how admirable you'd think it was if matt carroll said the same things about black people, or lebron about white people. all hell would break loose.
I don't understand what the big deal is that Tim said all this. Conversations among friends in similar fashion happens each day. I know Tim Hardaway is a public figure, but how many of you doubt that how he feels reflects the feelings of most of the other non-gay players in the NBA or team sports in general?
I see some of you compare this to racism. People don't publicly say out loud that they hate a certain race to avoid getting physically attacked, not because they don't believe in how they feel or they feel it's wrong to think like that.
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]Yeah slavery was really not that bad back in the day bc most people were ok with it. I completely understand your reasoning.[/QUOTE]
Slavery is a whole nother thing.
As far as civil rights blacks were discriminated against by the government, whereas gays pretty much aren't except for a few tax benefits and other little legal stuff that unmarried straights have too, though I see no reason why they don't just fix that up with civil unions.
Some people may hate gays but the same set of laws apply to them as straights so you can't really compare it to slavery or civil rights. But there is a problem if people like Hardaway are so afraid of them, though I think mainly he's just being a tough guy and he thought that was what he was supposed to say. Most people don't really care about gays either way except for some Christians, people just say they don't like them to act tough or manly.
[QUOTE=SomeBunghole]Whoa, whoa. I now HAVE a moral responsibility to inform people I shower around about my sexual preference? So, next time I go to the YMCA to shoot hoops, and hit the showers afterwards, I should go around the change room, introduce myself to everyone and say "Hi, I'm Paul, I prefer to put my **** in women, how about you?"[/QUOTE]
! th!nk most dudes would want to be able to shower and not worry about somebody else lust!ng after them wh!le they're naked and shower!ng. ! suppose !t should also be ok for men and women to share a lockerroom.
[QUOTE=konex]Look, the guy's a bigot but I find it funny how the media is trashing him like most folks in the country don't feel the same way...[/QUOTE]
It is not his opinion that matters most but the fact that he would publicly say something like that. I bet there are many basketball players who do not like gay people but you don't hear them talking about it.
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]And? Get over it, not everyone is going to be like you. If your that scared of gay people don't do anything in a men's locker room. You obviously do not like gay people like many others so they are not going to tell people, whoever does not like gay people get out of the shower. I am gay and I need to take a shower. People like you judge them and try to push them down like racist people did towards blacks. It is not like they get their own showers, deal with it.[/QUOTE]
Why don't you learn to deal w!th the fact that some people don't l!ke you or what you do.
[quote=applejoe]The guy was a nobody and fell out of the league, now he's selling books and going on talk shows[/quote]
I know, Mark Madsen has had a better career than him.
I don't like fat people.
[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]! th!nk most dudes would want to be able to shower and not worry about somebody else lust!ng after them wh!le they're naked and shower!ng. ! suppose !t should also be ok for men and women to share a lockerroom.[/QUOTE]
A man watching a women is different than a gay man watching another man. For the same reason male officers are not allowed to search women but yet women officers are allowed to search men, so stfu.
[QUOTE=kumquat]I know, Mark Madsen has had a better career than him.[/QUOTE]
his coming out party is giving him more success and fame then his entire career.:rockon:
[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]Why don't you learn to deal w!th the fact that some people don't l!ke you or what you do.[/QUOTE]
I am not gay but it not right to tell people how they should live their lifestyle. So you are the one who needs to deal with fact some guy is probably *********ing to images of you. Bc as much as you might hate it, it is not going to change anything.
[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]And how !s !t so d!fferent.[/QUOTE]
Do women officers search men?
[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]! th!nk most dudes would want to be able to shower and not worry about somebody else lust!ng after them wh!le they're naked and shower!ng.[/QUOTE]
Oh no, not lusting. NOT LUSTING!!! What with all kinds of people having telekinetic powers nowadays, people's thoughts are more dangerous than ever! Think about the damage that could be caused by people having erotic thoughts about other people.
Oh, and I'm sure women at your local stripmall just wet their panties at the thought of your creepy gaze on their bodies.
[QUOTE=DoubleTech]this guy makes tyrus thomas look like a genius[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol:
[QUOTE]It shouldn?t be in the world, in the United States, I don?t like it.?[/QUOTE]
Just because he doesn't like it, it shouldn't be in the world.. :wtf:
I have to hear this
I will make it easier for you. Understand that are society does not have 4 different kinds of restrooms. We do not have gay, lesbians, men, and ladies as an options. So when your in a locker room or restroom you should already know that a gay person is in there. Deal with it already.
[QUOTE=yobore]Some people may hate gays but the same set of laws apply to them as straights so you can't really compare it to slavery or civil rights.[/QUOTE]
Gays are often victims of violence and harassment. They can be find themselves unable to find a job or housing because of their sexual orientation. Things are even worse for transgendered people.
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]A man watching a women is different than a gay man watching another man. For the same reason male officers are not allowed to search women but yet women officers are allowed to search men, so stfu.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure you can request they have a male search you. But you have to specifically request it.
[QUOTE=reppy]Pretty sure you can request they have a male search you. But you have to specifically request it.[/QUOTE]
Either way it would be at their request but you know what I mean. But like I said we only have two restrooms or locker rooms, men and ladies.
[QUOTE=reppy]Gays are often victims of violence and harassment. They can be find themselves unable to find a job or housing because of their sexual orientation. Things are even worse for transgendered people.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention they can't get married so obviously they do not have the same rights. I say let them get married so they can deal with the same problems other people go through, ah marriage.
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]I will make it easier for you. Understand that are society does not have 4 different kinds of restrooms. We do not have gay, lesbians, men, and ladies as an options. So when your in a locker room or restroom you should already know that a gay person is in there. Deal with it already.[/QUOTE]
No, people shouldn't have to "just deal w!th !t" no more than you just have to deal w!th !t that people don't l!ke your sexual preference. There should be seperate locker rooms for g@y and lesb!an people. E!ther that, or throw everybody together.
People shouldn't be !n a s!tuat!on to where they m!ght be unw!ll!ng objects of lust.
[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]No, people shouldn't have to "just deal w!th !t" no more than you just have to deal w!th !t that people don't l!ke your sexual preference. There should be seperate locker rooms for g@y and lesb!an people. E!ther that, or throw everybody together.[/QUOTE]
I am done talking to you, your hate is beyond reasonable. Your wrong and this conversation is over. But I suppose you will fund the project to make all these new restrooms, knock yourself out.
comparing homosexuality with skin color is just moronic. There is nothing wrong or unnatural about being any skin color. It is unnatural and wrong to be gay. I dont hate homosexuals nor do i think anyone should but this comparison is more foolish than tims statements.
[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]No, people shouldn't have to "just deal w!th !t" no more than you just have to deal w!th !t that people don't l!ke your sexual preference. There should be seperate locker rooms for g@y and lesb!an people. E!ther that, or throw everybody together.
People shouldn't be !n a s!tuat!on to where they m!ght be unw!ll!ng objects of lust.[/QUOTE]
hmm, your posts are turning me on, big guy. Oops, sorry, I lusted after you a little there, my bad. (unless you are willing, of course ;) )
but seriously, re-read what you just wrote and tell me how we as a society are supposed to control peoples lust? Or why we would even want to? Do you want everybody to have to wear full-body hijabs when they go out in public (and also in the shower)? It makes no sense, and I'm willing to bet that your position on being an unwilling object of lust to women would be a bit different.
[quote]I am not gay [B]but it not right to tell people how they should live their lifestyle[/B]. So you are the one who needs to deal with fact some guy is probably *********ing to images of you. Bc as much as you might hate it, it is not going to change anything.[/quote]How different is that from self righteous people who continue to tell everyone how they should react to Ameechi's announcements and homosexuals as a whole?
[QUOTE=raiderfan19]comparing homosexuality with skin color is just moronic. There is nothing wrong or unnatural about being any skin color. [COLOR="Red"]It is unnatural and wrong to be gay[/COLOR]. I dont hate homosexuals nor do i think anyone should but this comparison is more foolish than tims statements.[/QUOTE]
Thats your opinion, it is not fact so stfu. And I will not be responding to you either so don't bother responding to this comment. People don't choose to be gay or lesbian just not like no one chooses their ethnicity.
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]I am done talking to you, your hate is beyond reasonable. Your wrong and this conversation is over. But I suppose you will fund the project to make all these new restrooms, knock yourself out.[/QUOTE]
Hate...Because your g@y and ! don't see everyth!ng your way means ! hate you because you're g@y.:roll:
! th!nk there should be a solut!on that makes everybody feel comfortable. ! suppose you th!nk ! hate lesb!ans because ! feel they should have the!r own locker room aswell. Have you ever met a str8 guy that truly hates lesb!ans.
[QUOTE=raiderfan19] It is unnatural and wrong to be gay.[/QUOTE]
Wow. Someone tell this guy we're not living in the Middle Ages anymore.
Basically, anyone who has a problem with gay people is either a) an intolerant Bible-bashing redneck or b) deeply queer themselves. Often a combo of both.
you can argue wrong but if you so choose but there is absolutely no way you can argue that homosexuality is natural. Good god people have gotten brainwashed.
[QUOTE=DatZNasty]How different is that from self righteous people who continue to tell everyone how they should react to Ameechi's announcements and homosexuals as a whole?[/QUOTE]
I hate black bc they are black.
You can't hate blacks bc they are human and they were just born with darker skin.
You can't tell me anything bc I was born with this opinion.
Oh ok I see your reasoning.
[QUOTE=rs98762001]Basically, anyone who has a problem with gay people is either a) an intolerant Bible-bashing redneck or b) deeply queer themselves. Often a combo of both.[/QUOTE]
I love that the same people who preach tolerance towards homosexuality have none for anyone who doesnt agree with them. What an idiot.
[QUOTE=raiderfan19]you can argue wrong but if you so choose but there is absolutely no way you can argue that homosexuality is natural. Good god people have gotten brainwashed.[/QUOTE]
Animals show signs of homosexuality, you don't get more natural than that.
End of discussion.
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]I hate black bc they are black.
You can't hate black bc they are human and they were just born with darker skin.
You can't tell me anything bc I was born with this opinion.
Oh ok I see your reasoning.[/QUOTE]
yet again, your skin pigments and sexual orientation are completely different.