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Woooooo
[QUOTE=Twiens]Woooooo[/QUOTE]
Winner!
Pros: Scorer, wont be a starter but he'll bring a lot of energy off the bench as 6th/7th man, physical dude, not afraid to post up and move you around, somewhat athletic, can finish in transition.
Cons: Tweener [we al know how those tend turn out], defense may or may not be there, idk about his lateral quickness, [and if you cant play D you cant play for Mike Brown].
He's only 6'7/6'8. If he shapes up his body he'll fit the mold of a SF and should be a pretty good starter one day.
Bennett, then Wiggins... Canada makin' US look like straight-up basketball clowns.
Naismith FTW
I think he's going to be productive offensively, but I believe that other players taken below him are going to be more valuable/impactful for their team.
For a tweener, he's actually quite tall with his 7'1 wingspan. I like that he seems to have a jumpshot - he'll need it a lot in the NBA, he won't just overpower people there. He has the tools to be better than Beasley and Derrick Williams.
[QUOTE=BoutPractice]I think he's going to be productive offensively, but I believe that other players taken below him are going to be more valuable/impactful for their team.
For a tweener, he's actually quite tall with his 7'1 wingspan. I like that he seems to have a jumpshot - he'll need it a lot in the NBA, he won't just overpower people there. He has the tools to be better than Beasley and Derrick Williams.[/QUOTE]
He's extremely strong, he has good size and explosion.
More worried about him being a defensive liability then him being able to score.
canadian version of leon powe.
Either is gonna lose weight and try to adjust to SF position or he's gonna bulk some more and become a Maxiell type of player with range :lol
[QUOTE=DCL]canadian version of leon powe.[/QUOTE]
Bennet is a lot more skilled than powe.
[QUOTE=Twiens]Woooooo[/QUOTE]
Nice call. I'll admit I didn't see this one coming. I just assumed with Tristan Thompson making such a massive improvement in the last year and with this draft having what seemed like a cluster of guys at the top, the Cavs would steer clear of drafting another power forward.
It's funny... This is the third straight draft -- with the exception of Kyrie -- that they took a guy who I really didn't even look at very closely.
I think one of the main reasons the Cavs decided on Bennett was his ability in the pick-and-roll and pick-and-pop game with Kyrie and Dion. One thing is for sure... It looks like the Cavs remedied their lack of outside shooting last night. Karasev was arguably the best shooter in the draft and Bennett can step out beyond the arc and hit jumpers.
That will definitely cure some of the spacing problems which cropped up last year and give our guards more lanes to drive. I'll be very interested to see how they use Bennett and Thompson together. Should be an interesting lineup.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Nice call. I'll admit I didn't see this one coming. I just assumed with Tristan Thompson making such a massive improvement in the last year and with this draft having what seemed like a cluster of guys at the top, the Cavs would steer clear of drafting another power forward.
It's funny... This is the third straight draft -- with the exception of Kyrie -- that they took a guy who I really didn't even look at very closely.
I think one of the main reasons the Cavs decided on Bennett was his ability in the pick-and-roll and pick-and-pop game with Kyrie and Dion. One thing is for sure... It looks like the Cavs remedied their lack of outside shooting last night. Karasev was arguably the best shooter in the draft and Bennett can step out beyond the arc and hit jumpers.
That will definitely cure some of the spacing problems which cropped up last year and give our guards more lanes to drive. I'll be very interested to see how they use Bennett and Thompson together. Should be an interesting lineup.[/QUOTE]
i guess chris grant said earlier today that Bennett will be coming off the bench initially.
TT played a lot of C his rookie year though. I don't see Bennett as an SF.
Coming off the bench?
I can't recall a 1st overall pick coming off the bench to start his career.
[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]i guess chris grant said earlier today that Bennett will be coming off the bench initially.
TT played a lot of C his rookie year though. I don't see Bennett as an SF.[/QUOTE]
Draymond Green had solid success playing SF off the bench this year and in terms of talent/athletic ability he's not 1/10 of Bennett, physically it won't be as bad as people are making it out to be for Bennett to guards SF's, he's got a massive wingspan and good strength so he can sag back a bit. I have not watched Bennett enough to know if he's got good defensive instincts like Green which might hurt him.
While due to him being more of a tweener he will probably never be a good defender but if he "wants" to defend he won't be terrible it will come down to desire.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]Draymond Green had solid success playing SF off the bench this year and in terms of talent/athletic ability he's not 1/10 of Bennett, physically it won't be as bad as people are making it out to be for Bennett to guards SF's, he's got a massive wingspan and good strength so he can sag back a bit. I have not watched Bennett enough to know if he's got good defensive instincts like Green which might hurt him.
While due to him being more of a tweener he will probably never be a good defender but if he "wants" to defend he won't be terrible it will come down to desire.[/QUOTE]
From what I've watched/read, his problems defensively were more about effort than ability. He just looks like he has no desire to play that end of the floor the majority of the time. Like I said, I guess Mike Brown feels like he can teach any young player how to play defense. You'd think a defensive-minded coach would target a guy who shows beastly characteristics on the defensive end of the floor, but it actually seems like the opposite.
He's so confident in his ability to teach guys on that end, he focuses more on the other side of the floor. Very similar to when he pushed for JJ Hickson, who was also said to have questionable traits defensively.
I do think he will be a PF the majority of the time, though. According to everything I'm hearing, Bennett wasn't chosen with the thought of him being the eventual franchise player on the wing.
[QUOTE=Carbine]Coming off the bench?
I can't recall a 1st overall pick coming off the bench to start his career.[/QUOTE]
Bargnani came off the bench initially for Toronto. He was probably the last one not to start immediately. That's not the most comforting piece of trivia in the world. :oldlol:
Though, it really wouldn't have mattered much who they went with. The only "elite" guy in this draft who was likely to start immediately was Otto Porter Jr. None of the centers were going to start over Varejao and none of the guards were going to start over Irving/Waiters.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]From what I've watched/read, his problems defensively were more about effort than ability. He just looks like he has no desire to play that end of the floor the majority of the time. Like I said, I guess
I do think he will be a PF the majority of the time, though. [/QUOTE]
If he can space the floor like they say he can and can at least provide effort on D I don't see why they wouldn't start him at SF to get him some experience and get the chemistry going early. Unless they plan on moving TT he has to play imo, no point letting Alonzo Gee get any playing time over him.
Sucks that this pick probably ruins my ROY prediction. Andy, TT, Zeller, Bennett. Hopefully he splits minutes at the 3/4 as Cavs seem to be weak there.
Is the Russian coming over this year?
[QUOTE=andremiller07]If he can space the floor like they say he can and can at least provide effort on D I don't see why they wouldn't start him at SF to get him some experience and get the chemistry going early. Unless they plan on moving TT he has to play imo, no point letting Alonzo Gee get any playing time over him.[/QUOTE]
Grant has gone out of his way since the draft to say he's a power forward. He also said a couple days before the draft that no one they picked would start immediately, regardless of who it was.
[QUOTE=Twiens]Sucks that this pick probably ruins my ROY prediction. Andy, TT, Zeller, Bennett. Hopefully he splits minutes at the 3/4 as Cavs seem to be weak there.
[B]Is the Russian coming over this year?[/B][/QUOTE]
indeed he is. He's also intriguing, son of a coach, extremely high bball iq and can really shoot. Doesn't have great handles or D though.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Grant has gone out of his way since the draft to say he's a power forward. He also said a couple days before the draft that no one they picked would start immediately, regardless of who it was.[/QUOTE]
Strange cause I can't see how they would be any better with Gee in the starting line up over him but I guess Bennett and Dion could be like the Jarret Jack/Carl Landry GSW combo on steroids off the bench.
[QUOTE=Twiens]Sucks that this pick probably ruins my ROY prediction. Andy, TT, Zeller, Bennett. Hopefully he splits minutes at the 3/4 as Cavs seem to be weak there.
Is the Russian coming over this year?[/QUOTE]
The word is, yes he is. He's only 19, though. I think he was maybe the youngest player in the draft. Definitely one of them. I doubt he gets a ton of minutes right off the bat.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]Strange cause I can't see how they would be any better with Gee in the starting line up over him but I guess Bennett and Dion could be like the Jarret Jack/Carl Landry GSW combo on steroids off the bench.[/QUOTE]
Dion is definitely the starter. Ellington will likely be the backup at the 2. We also drafted this Carrick Felix kid from Arizona State. We'll see how he develops.
My first thought when the Bennett pick was made that they must be turning him into a SF, but that does not appear to be the case. I think they just thought he was the best talent in the draft and decided to roll with it regardless of position. Hard to argue with that philosophy.
I still think he'd play around 30mins per no? I'd rather play Bennett out of position than use Gee all game.
[QUOTE=Twiens]I still think he'd play around 30mins per no? I'd rather play Bennett out of position than use Gee all game.[/QUOTE]
Yeap imo as the season goes on I will be shocked it they don't, maybe to start off with they might do that. I could also maybe see them using Bennett as there microwave guy off the bench and letting him just go to work when the better players like Dion/Kyrie are chilling on the bench.
Let's compare/contrast this thread with the Anthony Davis "bust" thread
(Thankfully my prediction was vague and conditional enough :lol We still don't know who he'll turn out, but it's not looking good that's for sure)
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This entire subforum is bump gold.
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]This entire subforum is bump gold.[/QUOTE]
yup...
I've said it before and i'll say it again. Bennett's problems were all between his ears. That guy had severe confidence issues.
If it's one thing the 2013 draft taught us it's to respect international comptetition.
Gobert and Giannis hands down the best players from that draft and would probably be picks 1 and 2 in a hindsight draft.
[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]Len is the most overhyped player in the draft. His advanced stats suck, he already has a stress fracture in his ankle, and if he isn't getting fed the ball he just disappears. Bonus: He's a sh*tty rebounder.
He's going to have a better rookie year than Noel but i think Len's ceiling is a mediocre starting center. Cody Zeller and Steven Adams both have a decent chance of turning out to be the better prospect than Len.[/QUOTE]
spot on :lol
(about alex len)
lmaoooo
kill yourself OP
Bennett was a bench-warmer with Fenerbah
Was it the pressure of being the #1 pick or does he just suck? What I mean is, obviously he isn't good enough to be an NBA player right now...but could he have become if his confidence wasn't shaking at the pressure of having to turn around the Cavs? Prob not :oldlol: Kwame Brown was still gonna suck, but he had some serviceable years and was at least good defensively at times.
I wish Royce White wouldve panned out in 2012.
[QUOTE=Twiens]Book it.
6'7 240+
7'1 Wingspan
Freakishly strong and explosive
Great jumpshot out to the 3 (38%)
Handles the ball like a 3, body of a 4
Fantastic rebounder
Only weakness is his D but the tools are there to be solid on that end.
This guy is pretty much a guaranteed 20/10 threat every night, and could be a superstar next to a defensive center. Especially if Charlotte gets him at #4 as he would be their #1 option right off the bat.
Freshman year stats:
16/8 on 52% in only 27 mins per while playing through a shoulder injury and having entire defenses built around stopping him.
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Bump.
[QUOTE=King Baron]Bump.[/QUOTE]
It was a very underachieving draft group on paper. But now, in hindsight, we know that Victor Oladipo, Otto Porter, C.J. McCollum, Steven Adams, Dennis Schroeder, and (obviously) Giannis Adetokunbo are all serious ballers. If the Cavs had Greek Freak in that draft, and Lebron still came back a couple years later.... :rockon:
best joke ever
Lmao
At least Bennett is still playing around the world, and is still called up to play for Team Canada. After all those years of failure at NBA level, he is still trying to carve his own path. Good for him, I guess. :ohwell:
[QUOTE=BurningHammer;14527254]At least Bennett is still playing around the world, and is still called up to play for Team Canada. After all those years of failure at NBA level, he is still trying to carve his own path. Good for him, I guess. :ohwell:[/QUOTE]
He plays for a garbage league. The owner of that league goes by "Blackie" LOL