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[QUOTE=DMV2]How did he insert himself into the situation when he was 5 feet away from the cop cars, and a good distance from the cops?[/QUOTE]
You mean like when he is yelling out to the cops, and then puts the dog back in the car and walks towards them? Why did they come up to him and not one of the dozen other people? Consider him inserted...
Go to about 2 minutes, you can hear him yelling but not what he is saying. Video skips a bit forward at 2:03. Just before he puts the dog in the car you can hear him say "civil rights violation."
Watch the other video, before the first one. You see him driving past then get out of his car. Something happens, apparently but I'm not sure, he was told to turn his music down.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI[/url]
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[QUOTE=DMV2]So he's an annoying heckler. They had a much bigger problem at hand. 1:53 mark, they walked towards him first before he put his dog in the car. Not sure what the reason was when he was clearly filming like the rest of the people.
So they decided to put out their big guns because a heckler and his dog were annoying them. Weak ass cops!!!!!
Comedians >>> cops when dealing with hecklers.[/QUOTE]
Well...
[IMG]http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/michael_richards.jpg[/IMG]
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He walked towards them because they were clearly coming over to talk to him or arrest him. What is he supposed to do? run away from them?. Basically all he did was call out the officers on being idiots - which they didn't like - they decided to illegally arrest him and then shoot his dog.
He should sue the department.
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[QUOTE=Bandito]he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.[/QUOTE]
Firing a shot into the air or in whatever safe direction would scare the dog away without even a semblance of a doubt.
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again,
He shot the a dog because he thought the dog was going to kill or threaten his life.
:facepalm
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[QUOTE=9erempiree]again,
He shot the a dog because he thought the dog was going to kill or threaten his life.
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Without giving the dog's owner who is standing next to him a chance to calm him down. :wtf:
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[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]Without giving the dog's owner who is standing next to him a chance to calm him down. :wtf:[/QUOTE]
yep.
The dog charged and stopped to sniff the ground. That's not a threat. Then the trained man, who's suppose to fight crime, decides to provoke the dog because he was afraid to get bitten. All this while, there is a real threat behind him in that house.
:facepalm
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The plot thickens, now we know why he was yelling out about his civil rights...
This isn't his first run in with Hawthorne police
July 28th 2012 he cites they beat him up during a domestic violence call, hauled him off to jail and beat him some more
July 29th 2011 he accuses them of racial profiling
[url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/151225050/Rosby-Complaint[/url]
His facebook
[url]https://www.facebook.com/leon.rosby[/url]
Sorry this guy just looks like an asshole looking for trouble
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[QUOTE=daily]The plot thickens, now we know why he was yelling out about his civil rights...
This isn't his first run in with Hawthorne police
July 28th 2012 he cites they beat him up during a domestic violence callhauled him offto jail and beat him some more
July 29th 2011 he accuses them of racial profiling
[url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/151225050/Rosby-Complaint[/url]
His facebook
[url]https://www.facebook.com/leon.rosby[/url]
Sorry this guy just looks like an asshole looking for trouble[/QUOTE]
So he has a history of being victimized by the police?
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[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]So he has a history of being victimized by the police?[/QUOTE]
Oh, so you're taking his word 100% i see, hopefully he doesn't say gravity doesnt exist.
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[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]So he has a history of being victimized by the police?[/QUOTE] It would seem he's no stranger to handcuffs
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[QUOTE=StocktonFan]Oh, so you're taking his word 100% i see, hopefully he doesn't say gravity doesnt exist.[/QUOTE]
what you fail to see is that Californians were born and raised victimized by the police. Corrupt police officers have existed our entire lives. A generation have gone through this crap. The police has too much power and give them a gun and that is dangerous.
Hawthorne is in L.A. county, the same county where police officers were shooting innocent people because they thought we were Christopher Dorn.
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[QUOTE=9erempiree]what you fail to see is that Californians were born and raised victimized by the police.
Hawthorne is in L.A. county, the same county where police officers were shooting innocent people because they thought we were Christopher Dorn.[/QUOTE]
Yes i've lived in city terrace, Los angeles... tell me something i don't know p[I]us[/I]sy. Just because there are bad apples doesn't mean everyone's bad. Neither you or I know the full story, so keep your mouth shut or stop running it as if you know the complete situation.
From the facebook page someone posted, this guy sounds like an asshole. What is a ****ing fact is that he has been charged with Domestic violence, that alone that guy loses all ****ing respect and benefit of the doubt from me [not that it matters].
So if you ask me, they should have shot and killed him instead.
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[QUOTE=9erempiree]what you fail to see is that Californians were born and raised victimized by the police. Corrupt police officers have existed our entire lives. A generation have gone through this crap. The police has too much power and give them a gun and that is dangerous.
Hawthorne is in L.A. county, the same county where police officers were shooting innocent people because they thought we were Christopher Dorn.[/QUOTE]:roll: :roll: :roll:
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[QUOTE=daily]It would seem he's no stranger to handcuffs[/QUOTE]
He definitely seemed quite ready and almost willing to have them slapped on him.
He was also asking the cops why there were no black officers.
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/01/police-shoot-dog_n_3530990.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=StocktonFan]You know you're in the hood when blacks all roll in to video tape a situation... MYOB assholes, and more often then not "worldstar" is yelled as if it's going to propel them into stardom.
but maybe that's the hope they need to get out of that shithole they call home.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you just have an unshakable disdain for the inner city and would find a way to justify any type of behavior the police display there no matter what they do.
What are your thoughts on the Trayvon Martin case, btw?
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[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]Sounds like you just have an unshakable disdain for the inner city and would find a way to justify any type of behavior the police display there no matter what they do.
What are your thoughts on the Trayvon Martin case, btw?[/QUOTE]
What i sound like is someone who lives by "mind your own business" the same people that also made "if you go looking for trouble you're going to get it".
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[QUOTE=miller-time]He definitely seemed quite ready and almost willing to have them slapped on him.[/QUOTE]
In July again...lol Bad month for Leon, his attorney is probably not real happy with him tonight, probably just blew up his lawsuit with today's actions
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[QUOTE=StocktonFan]Yes i've lived in city terrace, Los angeles... tell me something i don't know p[I]us[/I]sy. Just because there are bad apples doesn't mean everyone's bad. Neither you or I know the full story, so keep your mouth shut or stop running it as if you know the complete situation.
From the facebook page someone posted, this guy sounds like an asshole. What is a ****ing fact is that he has been charged with Domestic violence, that alone that guy loses all ****ing respect and benefit of the doubt from me [not that it matters].
So if you ask me, they should have shot and killed him instead.[/QUOTE]
Did you even read the document posted? :biggums:
Allow me to summarize
1. Police called in during a non-violent verbal disagreement during which Mr Rosby was asked to leave his house for the evening by his wife. He complied.
2. Nevertheless - an army of officers swarmed the house and attacked Rosby - because he had earlier complained about a lack of African American officers within the department and a tendency toward racial profiling.
So what the **** are you talking about :confusedshrug:
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[QUOTE=9erempiree]The police are a bunch of wimps. If you are trained to serve and protect the public and you are afraid of a dog?
The dog is not going to kill a grown ass man, who is trained, such as that police officer. You're going to tell me a trained man is afraid of a dog bite?
What kind of trained law enforcement is he to be afraid of a dog and a dog bite to have to pull out his gun. A dog is not a life and death situation.
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
You obviously have never bitten by a dog.:facepalm
[QUOTE] The dog wasn't being that aggressive, it only snapped at him when he aggressively approached it.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter, he felt he was in danger and there was a wild animal in front of him. Logical thinking is to defend yourself, so he shot it.
[QUOTE]Dont get me wrong, the owner practically caused everything himself. But still the cops should have had some concern for the innocent dog.[/QUOTE]What do you expect the policeman to do, talk to the dog? The thing is if the dog stayed in the car they would just call animal control and be done with it, but the dog was obviously dangerous and the policeman got scared and defended himself.
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[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]Did you even read the document posted? :biggums:
Allow me to summarize
1. Police called in during a non-violent verbal disagreement during which Mr Rosby was asked to leave his house for the evening by his wife. He complied.
2. Nevertheless - an army of officers swarmed the house and attacked Rosby - because he had earlier complained about a lack of African American officers within the department and a tendency toward racial profiling.
So what the **** are you talking about :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Actually just read it now, odd he was hauled off in a non-violent confrontation... he probably did or said something to the cops to warrant it.
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[QUOTE=Bandito]You obviously have never bitten by a dog.:facepalm
It doesn't matter, he felt he was in danger and there was a wild animal in front of him. Logical thinking is to defend yourself, so he shot it.
What do you expect the policeman to do, talk to the dog? The thing is if the dog stayed in the car they would just call animal control and be done with it, but the dog was obviously dangerous and the policeman got scared and defended himself.[/QUOTE]
His owner is standing next to him - he could easily cool down the dog if allowed to....he even attempts to before the idiot pulls out the gun.
Also, Is it not common sense these days that dogs are sensitive to noise? There were many sensible alternatives to shooting the dog.
Tough guy, shooting a dog three ****ing times.
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[QUOTE=StocktonFan]Actually just read it now, odd he was hauled off in a non-violent confrontation... he probably did or said something to the cops to warrant it.[/QUOTE]
Yes - he antagonized them through official complaints alleging a selective bias against employing African American officers and a tendency within the department toward racial profiling.
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[QUOTE=DMV2]3 cops armed with guns vs a dog and its owner handcuffed. The real dangerous animal in this situation are the cops.[/QUOTE]
Right, since the cops are the ones looking aggravated and leaping out of a car and running towards another...
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No the cops were calm and collected - arresting someone taking pictures and heckling them.
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[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]No the cops were calm and collected - arresting someone taking pictures and heckling them.[/QUOTE]
Arrest =/= detain
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[QUOTE=StocktonFan]Arrest =/= detain[/QUOTE]
Whatever - they acted like little girls.
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[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]Whatever - they acted like little girls.[/QUOTE]
my opinion:
should they have arrested him? no - not a threat
should the have killed the dog? yes - threat
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There were better alternatives to handing the perceived threat of the dog. Ideally allowing the owner to handle it. But if you're racist and don't feel comfortable with that you could also use common sense and common knowledge of dogs acute sense of hearing to fire a warning shot.
OR - and here's an idea - you can not be impulsively detain the guy for nothing which in effect triggered the entire situation.
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Wtf, that cop provoked the dog not once, but twice. You do that to most dogs when you're a complete stranger and they're going to react, its animal AND human nature.
That cop must have some history of getting bitten to react like that. He looked like he shit his pants.
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[I][QUOTE]Apparently this isn't the first time that Rosby has had issues with the local police. His prior record includes convictions for resisting arrest, battery and driving under the influence. Rosby, a black man, has filed six complaints alleging mistreatment and racial profiling by the Hawthorn Police.
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Read more: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk[/url]
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[QUOTE=StocktonFan]What i sound like is someone who lives by "mind your own business" the same people that also made "if you go looking for trouble you're going to get it".[/QUOTE]
You didn't answer my question about the Trayvon Martin case. But, going off your above quote, I woud assume you think George Zimmerman was in the wrong because he didn't mind his business and went looking for trouble after being instructed to not follow Trayvon.
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[QUOTE=StocktonFan]my opinion:
should they have arrested him? no - not a threat
should the have killed the dog? yes - threat[/QUOTE]
so according to you any threat is deserving of death? even if its not life threatening?
Im pretty sure using a baton, pepper spray, tazer or simply letting the owner calm the dog down all would have been better options than unloading 3 gun shots on a dog.
and by the way if you look at the video again the dog wasnt even gonna attack until the cop provoked it
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[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]so according to you any threat is deserving of death? even if its not life threatening?
Im pretty sure using a baton, pepper spray, tazer or simply letting the owner calm the dog down all would have been better options than unloading 3 gun shots on a dog.
and by the way if you look at the video again the dog wasnt even gonna attack until the cop provoked it[/QUOTE]
He was looking for any reason to shoot the dog, so he forced one out of it.
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[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]He was looking for any reason to shoot the dog, so he forced one out of it.[/QUOTE]
yea pretty much. Now he can go brag to his friends that he actually had to use his gun for once while on duty :facepalm
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I just don't know how a cop would kill this breed of dog.
[IMG]http://animalslook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/131.jpg[/IMG]
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This shit happened around here in Bay Area too few months back, 2 cops for some reason were trying to check out the house of some lady in her 50s when she wasn't even home, got a call about suspicious activity perhaps. The cops apparently went to the backyard and shot her dog after she supposedly "made aggressive gestures". The lady told the reporters that her dog was some 7 year old(basically in her 50s by dog years) female golden retriever that never even hurt anyone and was a "sweet old companion".
These cops we have are just the same psychos they hunt, lot of them bunch of trigger happy rednecks that will look for any excuse to fire their weapon. We saw how they handled the Christopher Dorner situation, shooting at old chinese ladies in their cars. :oldlol:
Seriously, send all these cops to Afghanistan lets see how tough they really are, bunch of power hungry ******* think they are tough shit because of a badge. I was surprised they actually hit that dog from that distance, their aim is usually shit in such dramatic circumstances.
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....should have shot the dumb n!gger insted...........don
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pics of the dog on the guys facebook page:
[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/226334_3089980426937_585399641_n.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/413236_2999790532246_874066673_o.jpg[/IMG]