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[QUOTE=Heilige]I haven't written a song before and never really sang at all. It is still something I want to try at least.
[B]How can I go from where I am at to at least being able to write my own song?[/B][/QUOTE]
You got a pen, you got some paper ... start writing.
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]You got a pen, you got some paper ... start writing.[/QUOTE]
How do you become a good writer when it comes to writing songs?
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]You got a pen, you got some paper ... start writing.[/QUOTE]
i assume he wants to do more than just writing lyrics... do you know how to play any instruments? If not buy a cheap guitar and learn it. If you have no musical knowledge at all, it would take at least 3 - 4 months before becoming familiar with reading/playing a guitar.
And honestly writing music is something you have to be talented in, just like how some are meant for sports, some are made for music. Same with singing, everyone can sing if you hit the right notes, but not everyone have that quality to their voice or power to become a great singer.
[QUOTE=Heilige]How do you become a good writer when it comes to writing songs?[/QUOTE]
When Berry Gordy first met Smokey Robinson in 1957, Berry Gordy was then known as a hit songwriter this was pre-Motown, he had written Jackie Wilson's first few hits. Smokey had a book of songs, hundreds and gave it to Berry and told Berry to get back in touch with him. He hated every song but one, he said they were all terrible except this one. That one told a story and his other songs were all over the place. What Gordy did like was his love for songwriting. To write hundreds of songs, you have to love the art. He worked with Smokey on his songwriting approach, started Motown (or Tamla at that time) with Smokey about a year and a half later.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx2XjXCZRJ0"]The Miracles: A Fork In The Road[/URL]
[QUOTE=Heilige]I am thinking about dropping out of college to pursue my goal of getting into the entertainment industry. (acting/singing)
Do you think I should go for it or would it be a bad move to make? I am 27 years old and live with my mom and am unemployed and have lived a pretty sheltered life. I would be finished with college in about 2 years and am getting a degree in Business Management. I would be 29-30 years old before graduating from college if I continued and stayed in college. At the same time, I feel time might be running out for me. Do most people make it in Hollywood/music at 30+ years old? I have no training/experience at all in either acting/music but I at least want to try. If I don't I feel I will always regret it. At the same time if I try and don't make it and don't end up succeeding at it, I feel I will be angry about it and never let go of the pain of not being a success in it.
What should I do?
Anybody here working/trying to get in the entertainment industry and have any advice?[/QUOTE]
Get on with your life and work. Get a damn job. The problem with this generation is everybody wants a dream job. Everybody wants to have a job they love. 99% of the people in the world hate their jobs. Sometimes you just gotta be a man and work for a living.
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]When Berry Gordy first met Smokey Robinson in 1957, Berry Gordy was then known as a hit songwriter this was pre-Motown, he had written Jackie Wilson's first few hits. Smokey had a book of songs, hundreds and gave it to Berry and told Berry to get back in touch with him. He hated every song but one, he said they were all terrible except this one. That one told a story and his other songs were all over the place. What Gordy did like was his love for songwriting. To write hundreds of songs, you have to love the art. He worked with Smokey on his songwriting approach, started Motown (or Tamla at that time) with Smokey about a year and a half later.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx2XjXCZRJ0"]The Miracles: A Fork In The Road[/URL][/QUOTE]
:cheers:
Gotta hand it to you, I feel you really know your shit when it comes to music!
I was wondering what type of career do you have? Also, sort of off topic, but what do you think about Frank Sinatra as a singer, performer, etc?
I thought dude wants to be an actor, why the fvck you all give him music related stuff?
edit: checked the OP/ my bad. No way youre making in music with nothing.
[QUOTE=CeltsGarlic]I thought dude wants to be an actor, why the fvck you all give him music related stuff?[/QUOTE]
I said acting and singing from my op.
[QUOTE=Heilige]I was wondering what type of career do you have?[/QUOTE]
lol this should be good.
[QUOTE=Heilige]:cheers:
Gotta hand it to you, I feel you really know your shit when it comes to music!
I was wondering what type of career do you have? Also, sort of off topic, but what do you think about Frank Sinatra as a singer, performer, etc?[/QUOTE]
I'm still taking classes right now (see don't drop out.) I work for a judge. Career goal is similar to yours, to be in the music industry. I write, produce, play and am currently in the process of stating a publishing company.
Frank Sinatra is a great singer, has a great voice though I don't really get into his music.
#ace23
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]I'm still taking classes right now (see don't drop out.) I work for a judge. Career goal is similar to yours, to be in the music industry. I write, produce, play and am currently in the process of stating a publishing company.
Frank Sinatra is a great singer, has a great voice though I don't really get into his music.
#ace23[/QUOTE]
That's awesome. Good luck man!
Maybe we can work together on something if I ever get good/it becomes something I am passionate about? What do you think?
[QUOTE=Heilige]That's awesome. Good luck man!
Maybe we can work together on something if I ever get good/it becomes something I am passionate about? What do you think?[/QUOTE]
Go start taking piano lessons now.
[QUOTE=ace23]Go start taking piano lessons now.[/QUOTE]
Gonna need a part time job while I finish college. I am unemployed right now and have no money.
Are piano lessons expensive? Gonna need piano and singing lessons. Randy said singing lessons are expensive can run in the thousands annually.
Regarding acting, my school has a theater/drama department and they put on plays every semester. Gonna check that out and see where that takes me this coming fall semester.
[QUOTE=ace23]Go start taking piano lessons now.[/QUOTE]
Really you don't need piano lessons (as a beginner.) If you're just starting, you really just need to know a few chords. If you can work your way around those handful of chords you'll be good for now.
Never taken private lessons but I've taken a couple piano classes where I've learned how to play. Can't really play well, I just apply the music theory I've learned in making beats since I just rap.
Singing lessons seem kind of pointless to me, but idk.
[QUOTE=ace23]Never taken private lessons but I've taken a couple piano classes where I've learned how to play. Can't really play well, I just apply the music theory I've learned in making beats since I just rap.
Singing lessons seem kind of pointless to me, but idk.[/QUOTE]
Singing lessons are very important, more so than piano/instrument lessons.
Like you, never had personnel lessons, but learned in courses I've taken during school. I took a music business class, record company class, songwriting class, music theory class, a orchestra class and music production courses.
[QUOTE=intrinsic]Meet people. Talk to them. Develop your interests.[/QUOTE]
I've changed my mind after reading this:
[QUOTE=Heilige]That's awesome. Good luck man!
Maybe we can work together on something if I ever get good/it becomes something I am passionate about? What do you think?[/QUOTE]
If you don't take yourself seriously, neither will anyone else. Shelve the pipe dreams about what it's going to be like when you make it.
You may not have money, but you have both time and opportunity.
[QUOTE=intrinsic]I've changed my mind after reading this:
If you don't take yourself seriously, neither will anyone else. Shelve the pipe dreams about what it's going to be like when you make it.
You may not have money, but you have both time and opportunity.[/QUOTE]
I am confused by your post. What did I say that makes you think I am not taking myself seriously?
Good luck man. I can somewhat relate to your situation. Though I don't live at home and have had career work, I'm at the point in my life where I'm at a crossroads and need to make some big decisions. That's one of the things about being an adult that you notice, is that the ramifications for your choices get larger at time goes on.
[QUOTE=Heilige]I am confused by your post. What did I say that makes you think I am not taking myself seriously?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Heilige]Thanks man, I appreciate it. How often are you on these boards? I can PM you in the future if you like to update how I am progressing.[/QUOTE]
You're a grown man -- 27 years old. No one is going to show more than a passing interest in your life. That's reality. From my limited perspective, this whole thread reads like a device you're using to feel like people care about you.
Randy also brought up something very important . Attitude. A good first step would be to honestly ask why you have such a low opinion of yourself.
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You're a grown man -- 27 years old. No one is going to show more than a passing interest in your life. That's reality. From my limited perspective, this whole thread reads like a device you're using to feel like people care about you.
Randy also brought up something very important . Attitude. A good first step would be to honestly ask why you have such a low opinion of yourself.[/QUOTE]
I have a low opinion of myself because I am 27 and haven't really accomplished anything of significance of my life. I am obese but am working on it. I am a virgin and have never been in a relationship. I have high social anxiety and timidity issues. I am broke and unemployed. I am getting a degree in Business Management and heard that is a very oversaturated degree so if I don't make it in the entertainment industry, I will have a crappy degree to fall back on. For the most part, these are the reasons I have a low opinion of myself. Randy said it himself, I am a loser for the most part. At the same time, I know wallowing in self-pity isn't going to change my situation and most of my problems can be fixed if I work hard enough.
[QUOTE=Heilige]I have a low opinion of myself because I am 27 and haven't really accomplished anything of significance of my life. I am obese but am working on it. I am a virgin and have never been in a relationship. I have high social anxiety and timidity issues. I am broke and unemployed. I am getting a degree in Business Management and heard that is a very oversaturated degree so if I don't make it in the entertainment industry, I will have a crappy degree to fall back on. For the most part, these are the reasons I have a low opinion of myself. Randy said it himself, I am a loser for the most part. At the same time, I know wallowing in self-pity isn't going to change my situation and most of my problems can be fixed if I work hard enough.[/QUOTE]
damn
I am not opposed to dropping out, I did it myself for two years, but you are really lost and this won't help you.
[QUOTE=Heilige]I have a low opinion of myself because I am 27 and haven't really accomplished anything of significance of my life. I am obese but am working on it. I am a virgin and have never been in a relationship. I have high social anxiety and timidity issues. I am broke and unemployed. I am getting a degree in Business Management and heard that is a very oversaturated degree so if I don't make it in the entertainment industry, I will have a crappy degree to fall back on. For the most part, these are the reasons I have a low opinion of myself. Randy said it himself, I am a loser for the most part. At the same time, I know wallowing in self-pity isn't going to change my situation and most of my problems can be fixed if I work hard enough.[/QUOTE]
It's safe to say everyone in this thread has been called a loser by someone on the internet.
You're focused on failure, but you have to prepare a soft landing. (Example: broke and unemployed with high social anxiety.) You're broke and unemployed because it was easier to quit on yourself using high anxiety for an excuse.
While trying to keep an eye on the long term, also try to control the next 5 minutes. Dwelling on everything all at once, past/present/future won't get you anywhere. Try to break up your day into small segments, savor the small victories, and honestly, it sounds like you have a good thing going with the weight loss, so keep it up. Little successes will make you feel better about yourself, and lead to bigger things.
All I'm gonna say is this: The people that are really successful are the ones that don't let others tell em what they can or can't achieve.
It's all up to you man. If you want it, believe in yourself, and work extra hard, you can make it.
[QUOTE=Heilige]I have a low opinion of myself because I am 27 and haven't really accomplished anything of significance of my life. I am obese but am working on it. I am a virgin and have never been in a relationship. I have high social anxiety and timidity issues. I am broke and unemployed. I am getting a degree in Business Management and heard that is a very oversaturated degree so if I don't make it in the entertainment industry, I will have a crappy degree to fall back on. For the most part, these are the reasons I have a low opinion of myself. Randy said it himself, I am a loser for the most part. [b]At the same time, I know wallowing in self-pity isn't going to change my situation and most of my problems can be fixed if I work hard enough.[/b][/QUOTE]
You have the right mentality. Keep at it.
Update on Heilige Hitler?
yeah man just drop out, too many people doing business management anyways.
we need more drop outs to compete with the college degree kids that work at Arbi's and Mac's making republican minimum wage of under $10 ======
GOOD MOVE
Why would you drop out when you can now pass in your online classes nowadays as long as you're present?
Finish school = increase your debt in student loan = yikes.
Take a leap of faith and follow what you want to do. It’s that simple. You situation reads like a troll post though.