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[QUOTE=flipogb]^^T-Mobile $30 prepaid, best deal for those who really just need data and calling just for emergencies. 5gb data/100 minutes/ unli-text.
any contract price isn't a "deal" , price a nexus 4 and a prepaid contract for 2 yrs and youl see what a real "deal" is.[/QUOTE]
Smh.
"Calling only for emergencys"??? Lolololplolololp.
You are a texting teenager.
Or a complete moron.
Or make minimum wage.
Or all the above.
I paid $700 for my S4. I can do mad shit with it. Better camera still. Multi-task.
So nobody concerned NSA now will have your metadata, can listen to your calls and can locate you at any given time if you're using the new iPhone? I bet that shit would even stand in court, as a sufficient proof of location. I alone?
[QUOTE=kNIOKAS]So nobody concerned NSA now will have your metadata, can listen to your calls and can locate you at any given time if you're using the new iPhone? I bet that shit would even stand in court, as a sufficient proof of location. I alone?[/QUOTE]
They've BEEN doing that with all phones. You think it's only gonna be capable with this new iPhone? that's been possible for years on any phone smart or not.
And I know you were concerned about the fingerprints, so peep this:
[QUOTE]Apple'sAAPL -5.44% new iPhone 5S, which comes with a fingerprint scanner, won
contracts suck, I felt like an idiot too when I did the research and found out I was burning money for no reason. you will get over it.
browse the prepaid section of howardforums.com and prepare to feel like an idiot
[QUOTE=andgar923]
If the government wants to track you down they'll do so iphone or not. You'd really have to fly off the radar and not use any modern tech.[/QUOTE]
Yes so it doesn't really matter where it is said the finger print is to be stored.
Phones can be tracked, but without having an identification of a person that's carrying the device around (who's using every once in a while). Now, it is. I really wonder would it stand on court as an alibi (or not) of where have you been at the said moment, if you also have activated your iPhone.
It's getting worse, and by that I mean the privacy issue is made to become dilluted and people are getting desensitized gradually. By officially implanting the fingerprint lock on the most popular brand of phones this agenda gets pushed even further. I am not expecting for a device to be untrackable, but I'm not expecting the fact to be made public and sold as a pro.
i have an iphone, and i'm not impressed with apple's new gimmicks.
they haven't really "innovated" shit in years.
[QUOTE=flipogb]contracts suck, I felt like an idiot too when I did the research and found out I was burning money for no reason. you will get over it.
browse the prepaid section of howardforums.com and prepare to feel like an idiot[/QUOTE]
I don't know to much about prepaids. I always assumed it was shitty network for shitty phones.
Can you get one for the new iPhone per se? which one would be a good option. One with Verizon would be good. I have Sprint and it sucks in my area. I always get great reception and speed in areas I'm NEVER in. The areas that I'm always in suck.
[QUOTE=kNIOKAS]Yes so it doesn't really matter where it is said the finger print is to be stored.
Phones can be tracked, but without having an identification of a person that's carrying the device around (who's using every once in a while). Now, it is. I really wonder would it stand on court as an alibi (or not) of where have you been at the said moment, if you also have activated your iPhone.
It's getting worse, and by that I mean the privacy issue is made to become dilluted and people are getting desensitized gradually. By officially implanting the fingerprint lock on the most popular brand of phones this agenda gets pushed even further. I am not expecting for a device to be untrackable, but I'm not expecting the fact to be made public and sold as a pro.[/QUOTE]
Not to be a d*ck, but I'm not following you.
Perhaps cause I'm tired, so it's my fault
Luckily I got my Samsung Galxy S3 and my sister has the iphone 5 both for Virgin Mobile. We both pay 35$ a month, can't wait till VM gets this in a few years unless VM doesn't get the S4 or S5 by then.
[QUOTE=andgar923]I don't know to much about prepaids. I always assumed it was shitty network for shitty phones.
Can you get one for the new iPhone per se? which one would be a good option. One with Verizon would be good. I have Sprint and it sucks in my area. I always get great reception and speed in areas I'm NEVER in. The areas that I'm always in suck.[/QUOTE]
Virgin Mobile has the Iphone 5, Galaxy S3, and they're getting the S4. Prepaid is the way to go with plans that start as low as 35$ a month. Contract phones are for suckers.
[QUOTE=DCL]i have an iphone, and i'm not impressed with apple's new gimmicks.
they haven't really "innovated" shit in years.[/QUOTE]
Yeah…
Adding a 64 bit processor
Improving on the camera
Adding another chip that can determine your actions to be more power efficient
Improving on graphics
Adding a state of the art fingerprint sensor perhaps better than every consumer product implementation
All while improving on battery life in a small and light product isn't "innovation".
Other phones have something similar to what iPhone 5s just announced, but they either suck your battery life, are in a big ass body, or lack something else.
You want a great camera, there's a phone that's great… but it'll have a shitty battery life, it'll be big and out of shitty plastic, have subpar software and poor ecosystem (by comparison).
Want a powerful phone… it'll be big, suck battery life, chances are it won't have such a good camera and won't have a finger print sensor.
If you have a finger print sensor, chances are it won't work nearly as well, will be very intrusive and won't be secure, will be in a big body and drain battery life.
What Apple has done IS innovative from an engineering standpoint. And it also has other features that are useful but don't get any attention like the double wifi, ability to automatically turn off or on wifi in order to save battery, know if you're walking or on a car and give relavent information for the situation automatically, all this while conserving battery life. And not even talking about the new iOS which does a better job at multi tasking and conserving battery life and cpu, I already mentioned how audio apps will work with each other flawlessly (my fav feature :) ).
So it may not be 'revolutionary', but it is 'evolutionary' and 'innovative' from an engineering standpoint.
[QUOTE=OJ SIMPSON 2.0]Virgin Mobile has the Iphone 5, Galaxy S3, and they're getting the S4. Prepaid is the way to go with plans that start as low as 35$ a month. Contract phones are for suckers.[/QUOTE]
I guess it depends on your area and how much you value a good connection.
before I got my first smartphone I always said I'd be content with a slow connection phone since I wouldn't need it. But as soon as I got one, I was dying for faster and more reliable data speeds.
I'm willing to pay more for better.
If prepaid services offer that, I'll look into it. If they don't I won't bother. I will stay a sucker for better service all around I suppose.
Unless that isn't the case
[QUOTE=andgar923]I guess it depends on your area and how much you value a good connection.
before I got my first smartphone I always said I'd be content with a slow connection phone since I wouldn't need it. But as soon as I got one, I was dying for faster and more reliable data speeds.
I'm willing to pay more for better.
If prepaid services offer that, I'll look into it. If they don't I won't bother. I will stay a sucker for better service all around I suppose.
Unless that isn't the case…. please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]
Well Virgin Mobile is owned by Sprint so you get data from the sprint towers. Where I live I get great service and 4G LTE for only 35$ a month. It really depends on where you live though then again, I'm constantly connected to wifi so I don't really use 3g or 4g.
[QUOTE=OJ SIMPSON 2.0]Well Virgin Mobile is owned by Sprint so you get data from the sprint towers. Where I live I get great service and 4G LTE for only 35$ a month. It really depends on where you live though then again, I'm constantly connected to wifi so I don't really use 3g or 4g.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%
I always seem to get great connection in places I'm never in. Yet the places I'm always in, have spotty connection.
I'm lucky to get 2 bars of 3g at work, I have to log into the shitty wifi there only to be kicked out every 5 seconds. Everywhere in my neighborhood my connection is subpar to shitty.
But if I go to the next city which I rarely ever do, I get LTE speeds FULL BARS!!! really? WTF? my luck.:mad:
So faster CPU, better camera and a pretty gizmo makes you upgrade to a new one? I can understand upgrading from an iPhone 4 but why would one wanna upgrade smartphones whenever a new one comes out? And that goes for any kind of smartphones, I have had my Captivate for more than two years now and I'm satisfied with it although it's not even comparable to the new phones.
[QUOTE=kNIOKAS]So nobody concerned NSA now will have your metadata, can listen to your calls and can locate you at any given time if you're using the new iPhone? I bet that shit would even stand in court, as a sufficient proof of location. I alone?[/QUOTE]
any phone from the nineties on forward can be used to triangulate your location, its extremely common to have those records be admitted in criminal cases.
Call records, text records, etc... Doesn't matter which provider, which phone, it's nothing new and the records are pretty easy to get. The phone companies have a team of people and a special phone and fax number to get the subpeonas in. Its a pretty streamlined process.
[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]any phone from the nineties on forward can be used to triangulate your location, its extremely common to have those records be admitted in criminal cases.
Call records, text records, etc... Doesn't matter which provider, which phone, it's nothing new and the records are pretty easy to get. The phone companies have a team of people and a special phone and fax number to get the subpeonas in. Its a pretty streamlined process.[/QUOTE]
My friend used the "find iphone" to put her husband at his girlfriend's house, she made a log for her divorce filing.
[QUOTE=dunksby]So faster CPU, better camera and a pretty gizmo makes you upgrade to a new one? I can understand upgrading from an iPhone 4 but why would one wanna upgrade smartphones whenever a new one comes out? And that goes for any kind of smartphones, I have had my Captivate for more than two years now and I'm satisfied with it although it's not even comparable to the new phones.[/QUOTE]
I dont get that either I probably upgrade every 2-3 years if you have a Iphone 5 or S4 I dont think you need to upgrade. Maybe if you had a Iphone 3 or S2, sometimes people just want to upgrade for the purpose of it being a status symbol.
Also regarding contracts I think they are fair since your using there service anyway, I entered a contract from our local carrier its around $42 for a 30 month contract I got 2 gadgets a Galaxy grand as the phone + a Note 8 Tablet, It comes with unlimited texts + unli data and around 100mins of calls, I find that reasonable instead of paying upfront for both gadgets.
People are generally always gonna want the newest shiniest product. That usually can be said about most items not just phones. it just so happens that phones are more affordable than cars or tvs, they come around more often than gaming consoles as well.
Good for the few of you that are content with your old phone.
As for the rest of us, there may be a feature that we either want or need. In my case I am welcoming the improved Facetime camera, the other features are a bonus.
I also happen to fall into the percentage of people that DON'T have a passcode on their phone, simply because I feel it's too much of a hassle. The fingerprint to unlock seems useful and it's something that perhaps I need.
The improved camera is always a welcomed addition since I go on trips and while I'm not a big photography taker, I do take some here and there.
Would I be buying an iPhone 5s?
No I'm waiting on the new iPad.
If I had the iPhone 4s I wouldn't upgrade to anything. What really did they improve on? A faster phone? How fast can it possibly be and the marginal difference are just not upgrade worthy.
[QUOTE=Draz]If I had the iPhone 4s I wouldn't upgrade to anything. What really did they improve on? A faster phone? How fast can it possibly be and the marginal difference are just not upgrade worthy.[/QUOTE]
I suppose that 2x the speed of the iPhone 5 is only "marginally".
[url]http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/features/[/url]
Read up on the new improvements all across the board to see if it's something that's beneficial. For some they may not be enough, but I'm sure it will for the majority.
One thing that's being lost is the app ecosystem.
Apps will be rebuilt from the ground up to be more power efficient. Others will blow our minds away and introduce something we didn't even think of.
I for one, can't wait to see what the next generation of music creating apps will be like.
There will also be redesigns and new GUIs that will continue to set trends and influence designs on other venues. I honestly think we're gonna take a next step forward in regards to what we can do with our phones. Most of it done possible with the new iOS and phone horsepower. The Infinity Blade 3 preview is just the beginning.
Marginal or not any smart phone especially an iOS device within the previous two years is fast enough to run smoothly and process at great rates. Twice as fast sounds good, but a year ago today or whenever the iPhone 5 was released that same phone was twice as fast as the last iPhone.
How fast do we actually want our phones to be? That's like buying a new laptop every year whenever a new faster one is released. It doesn't make sense but it is a trend. I can easily upgrade to the 5s from an S4 but is the money worth putting to waste for a quicker phone when this phone is quick enough? I understand the phone thing is all in now but before this phone I had the Samsung Galaxy S the first one. That was a major jump and I'm a tech geek in phones and gadgets and the smartest move to make for people who have iPhone 4s and S3s or above should stay with their phones unless you have the money to spend.
Next year the new iPhone will obviously be twice as fast as this iPhone 5s. I want to see more than just a fingerprint scanner and an upgraded iOS I want to see more of what that phone can do to upgrade and also switch over to iPhone.
I want to see
Removable battery
Micro SD slot for extra storage
Why the f can't apple do it already? Maybe a bit larger screen?
I'm android until then though. And even then, I may not jump ship because I like the multi tasking abilities of this phone.
It'll be a plus.
[QUOTE=Draz]Marginal or not any smart phone especially an iOS device within the previous two years is fast enough to run smoothly and process at great rates. Twice as fast sounds good, but a year ago today or whenever the iPhone 5 was released that same phone was twice as fast as the last iPhone.
How fast do we actually want our phones to be? That's like buying a new laptop every year whenever a new faster one is released. It doesn't make sense but it is a trend. I can easily upgrade to the 5s from an S4 but is the money worth putting to waste for a quicker phone when this phone is quick enough? I understand the phone thing is all in now but before this phone I had the Samsung Galaxy S the first one. That was a major jump and I'm a tech geek in phones and gadgets and the smartest move to make for people who have iPhone 4s and S3s or above should stay with their phones unless you have the money to spend.
Next year the new iPhone will obviously be twice as fast as this iPhone 5s. I want to see more than just a fingerprint scanner and an upgraded iOS I want to see more of what that phone can do to upgrade and also switch over to iPhone.
I want to see
Removable battery
Micro SD slot for extra storage
Why the f can't apple do it already? Maybe a bit larger screen?
I'm android until then though. And even then, I may not jump ship because I like the multi tasking abilities of this phone.
It'll be a plus.[/QUOTE]
Faster phones means more capabilities and smoother operation.
The fingerprint sensor wouldn't be as smooth and fast in older generation models. The Galaxy wouldn't be able to do half the stuff on an older model if not for the speed updagrades. Speed upgrades allow the HTC phones to perform certain tasks that older models can't do as well. It also allows certain apps to perform or even run at all (Infiniti Blade 3 for example).
Faster processing speeds also allow for better under the hood actions that allow it to multi task without compromising performance, for example running two apps at the same time side by side on some Droid phones.
As phones evolve we'll be able to do more and more, things that today we didn't think were needed but things that we wouldn't be able to live without when they are released.
As far as computers, some people may not need faster processing (don't see why anybody would mind tho), some of us do. They allow us to run process actions at a faster rate, they allow us to multi task more efficiently but I guess that depends on your needs.
I welcome faster speeds!!!
I don't see why people feel that they're not needed. Perhaps in the past I wasn't sure what couid be done with faster phones, but it's clearly obvious that we all benefit from them.
[QUOTE=andgar923]Faster phones means more capabilities and smoother operation.
The fingerprint sensor wouldn't be as smooth and fast in older generation models. The Galaxy wouldn't be able to do half the stuff on an older model if not for the speed updagrades. Speed upgrades allow the HTC phones to perform certain tasks that older models can't do as well. It also allows certain apps to perform or even run at all (Infiniti Blade 3 for example).
Faster processing speeds also allow for better under the hood actions that allow it to multi task without compromising performance, for example running two apps at the same time side by side on some Droid phones.
[B]As phones evolve we'll be able to do more and more, things that today we didn't think were needed but things that we wouldn't be able to live without when they are released.[/B]
As far as computers, some people may not need faster processing (don't see why anybody would mind tho), some of us do. They allow us to run process actions at a faster rate, they allow us to multi task more efficiently but I guess that depends on your needs.
I welcome faster speeds!!!
I don't see why people feel that they're not needed. Perhaps in the past I wasn't sure what couid be done with faster phones, but it's clearly obvious that we all benefit from them.[/QUOTE]
You can't be ****ing serious.
Big disappointment from Apple. Will be getting the note 3.
I'll stick with my 4s as well
[QUOTE=Lebowsky]You can't be ****ing serious.[/QUOTE]
How so?
Years ago people were thinking there was no need for smart phones, yet we can't see ourselves living without them since they've become integral to our lives. We don't know what new features will be.
[QUOTE=Draz]
I want to see
Removable battery
Micro SD slot for extra storage
[/QUOTE]
No way they'll do it
[QUOTE=b1imtf]No way they'll do it[/QUOTE]
I don't see how sd slot is needed.
I have the 16gb and I don't feel the need to have more. I simply upload my files to my computer or cloud. I don't have much music on it either, since I stream almost everything. I can select to download some songs but once you play them you can stream them without the need to download or have to buffer.
:confusedshrug:
I undertand that everybody's different, but I feel the need for bigger/removable drives isn't needed like it was in the past.
[QUOTE=andgar923]I don't see how sd slot is needed.
I have the 16gb and I don't feel the need to have more. I simply upload my files to my computer or cloud. I don't have much music on it either, since I stream almost everything. I can select to download some songs but once you play them you can stream them without the need to download or have to buffer.
:confusedshrug:
I undertand that everybody's different, but I feel the need for bigger/removable drives isn't needed like it was in the past.[/QUOTE]
The problem is not the storage itself. 64gb is fine in a phone.
The problem is that not including a SD card slot is clearly a scam to vastly overcharge for a very cheap component. The jump from 16gb to 32gb costs you like $100. That's pretty much all profit.
[QUOTE=LJJ]The problem is not the storage itself. 64gb is fine in a phone.
The problem is that not including a SD card slot is clearly a scam to vastly overcharge for a very cheap component.[/QUOTE]
ok
They will continue selling the iPhone 5 right? Because first of all i don't see how the 5C can only be $100 cheaper than the 5S so it'll probably be the same price as the iPhone 5 with the same technology despite having a plastic case which is not only a lot cheaper than the current materials but also much quicker in production. Why shouldn't people just buy iPhone 5 not only won't they have to deal with the fact that they bought a "budget" iPhone but its imo also a much nicer and more precious design.
[QUOTE=blablabla][B][COLOR="Red"]They will continue selling the iPhone 5 right? [/COLOR][/B]Because first of all i don't see how the 5C can only be $100 cheaper than the 5S so it'll probably be the same price as the iPhone 5 with the same technology despite having a plastic case which is not only a lot cheaper than the current materials but also much quicker in production. Why shouldn't people just buy iPhone 5 not only won't they have to deal with the fact that they bought a "budget" iPhone but its imo also a much nicer and more precious design.[/QUOTE]
No
The 5c will become the 5.
smart move by apple a worse product for the same money
also
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7-RetY7fGo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7-RetY7fGo[/URL]
The future of phones!!! :bowdown:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c[/url]
:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=dyna]The future of phones!!! :bowdown:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c[/url]
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
that's a great idea. some of the immediate flaws are the unappealing look of the phone. there's definitely a market for it though. i'm not one of the people that buy a new phone every year. i got the iphone 5 a few months ago but before that i was still rocking the iphone 3. this christmas i "might" get the 5s if i'm allowed to upgrade to it for a reasonable cost.
I'm really digging the white and yellow one.
[url]http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/screen-shot-2013-09-12-at-6-29-52-pm.png[/url]
Obviously I aint fena cop it, but still they nice.
Everytime I see those colorful iphones side-by-side it reminds me of google
[QUOTE=falc39]Everytime I see those colorful iphones side-by-side it reminds me of google[/QUOTE]
Hah I never thought of that.