Lebron says he could averge 35-40 ppg if he really wanted too

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Possibly. Doubt he'd be very efficient though.[/QUOTE]

Good Lord, you don't know s.hit about basketball. Just sit in the corner and stfu, son.

LeBron is a better scorer than Kobe.

Get over it.

He also said he'd bring a championship to Cleveland... And win 8 titles with the Heat.

Was it a specific question asked to him or is this guy really [I]that[/I] insecure with himself as a player.

[QUOTE=TMT]Was it a specific question asked to him or is this guy really [I]that[/I] insecure with himself as a player.[/QUOTE]

He was asked

35-36ppg. Sure. Anything more? Nah.

[QUOTE=ProfessorMurder]He also said he'd bring a championship to Cleveland... And win 8 titles with the Heat.[/QUOTE]
:lol

He's the dude that said he's ready to shoot if Spurs play him the same way, before 2013 finals started. Guess what happened?

[QUOTE=ripthekik]:lol

He's the dude that said he's ready to shoot if Spurs play him the same way, before 2013 finals started. Guess what happened?[/QUOTE]

What happened was he hit the game winning shot in game 7 to clinch the series. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]LeBron is a better scorer than Kobe.

Get over it.[/QUOTE]

Even LeBron would laugh at that statement.

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]What happened was he hit the game winning shot in game 7 to clinch the series. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
right after Ray allen saved him with that shot while he bricked and bricked and bricked for 5 games while being covered by Diaw. Oh, and he never hit a game winning shot, dont kid yourself. He hit the open shots while his team was up and he had no pressure.

[QUOTE=juju151111]Man sit your dumbass down.[/QUOTE]
Nothing he said was wrong tho. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=TheReal Kendall]His jumper is suspect.[/QUOTE]

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If I were to put all his bricks in the 2013 finals together, 1 gif probably wouldn't be enough. He had 1 decent shooting game, game 7. Before that he was choking and disappearing through quarters like it was 2011. Even some of his most loyal fans turned on him. :confusedshrug:

he could suck my *** if he wants to too.

[QUOTE=ripthekik]If I were to put all his bricks in the 2013 finals together, 1 gif probably wouldn't be enough. He had 1 decent shooting game, game 7. Before that he was choking and disappearing through quarters like it was 2011. Even some of his most loyal fans turned on him. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

So he was choking until the game that was most important not to choke?

Word.

The guy averaged 30 PPG on 50% to go along with 8.6 APG and it's not considered his best season, no shit he could average 35 ppg.

35 PPG on 47% with 6 assists per game would be very realistic.

[QUOTE=KyleKong]So he was choking until the game that was most important not to choke?

Word.[/QUOTE]
Yea.. so you think choking in the early stages of the finals mean nothing? Til the point where he almost lost and had to be rescued by Ray Allen? As long as he came out for the last game and played decent he's alright? All those choking and disappearances in the first few final games didn't matter?

Sums up the average lebron stan. :facepalm

[QUOTE=ripthekik]Yea.. so you think choking in the early stages of the finals mean nothing? Til the point where he almost lost and had to be rescued by Ray Allen? As long as he came out for the last game and played decent he's alright? All those choking and disappearances in the first few final games didn't matter?

Sums up the average lebron stan. :facepalm[/QUOTE]

I'm just paraphrasing what you said. :cheers:

[QUOTE=ripthekik]Yea.. so you think choking in the early stages of the finals mean nothing?[/QUOTE]
'00, '04, '08, and Game 7 in '10.

[QUOTE=aj1987]'00, '04, '08, and Game 7 in '10.[/QUOTE]
Combine all of those and it won't even touch 2011.
Oh, and people usually forget this year or give him a pass for it.. but have you actually looked up his stats against the Spurs in his first final appearance? Atrocious.. he even shot below 30%. Look it up.

[QUOTE=ripthekik]Combine all of those and it won't even touch 2011.
Oh, and people usually forget this year or give him a pass for it.. but have you actually looked up his stats against the Spurs in his first final appearance? Atrocious.. he even shot below 30%. Look it up.[/QUOTE]

LeBron in 2011- 18\7\7 on 47% shooting
Kobe in 2004- 22\4\4 on 39% shooting.

So basically LeBron was involved in more offence, rebounded better, and was more efficient from the field.

Kobe has never matched LeBrons 2013 Finals Numbers in any of his 7 appearances lol.

[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]LeBron in 2011- 18\7\7 on 47% shooting
Kobe in 2004- 22\4\4 on 39% shooting.

So basically LeBron was involved in more offence, rebounded better, and was more efficient from the field.
[/QUOTE]
Really? The guy that scored 8 points in 1 finals game? The guy that averaged something like 2 points in 4th quarters? The guy that went phantom- he was more involved in the offense, and That guy played better?

[QUOTE=ripthekik]Really? The guy that scored 8 points in 1 finals game? The guy that averaged something like 2 points in 4th quarters? The guy that went phantom- he was more involved in the offense, and That guy played better?[/QUOTE]

Stats don't lie. As bad as Lebron played, he was still better than Kobe in '04.

[QUOTE=ripthekik]Combine all of those and it won't even touch 2011.
Oh, and people usually forget this year or give him a pass for it.. but have you actually looked up his stats against the Spurs in his first final appearance? Atrocious.. he even shot below 30%. Look it up.[/QUOTE]
[B]'00 - 16/5/4 on 41% TS[/B]
'01 - 25/8/6 on 50% TS
[B]'04 - 23/3/4 on 46% TS[/B]
'08 - 26/5/5 on 50% TS
'10 - 6/24 shooting in Game 7 of the Finals.

Lebron in '11 - 18/7/7 on 54% TS
Lebron in '13 - 25/11/7 on 53% TS

'04 is easily the worst superstar performance in the history of NBA

I don't really get how many people forgot it.

If LeBron only focused on scoring night in and night out, I think you can say he'd realistically average around 37 points. Think about it. He averaged 27 and 8. Take those assists and let's say at least half of them resulted in 8 points or more. That's 35 ppg. He could definitely do it.

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Not on the Heat. Not with the amount of talent he has on his team, and how they blow teams out.

Not with his current first step, and not as impressive explosion or finishing ability. He gets a ton of points in transition now. Super cherry picks FG attempts.

With his diminished athletic abilities, he plays smarter, but not near as dynamic or explosive. He's never been a guy scoring off incredible footwork, and offensive scoring skill set like MJ showcased at 33, 34, 35, 38, 39 and 40, or Kobe at 32, 33 and 34.

He'd have to chuck, his FG% and efficiency would decrease dramatically. 40 is absolutely out of the question.

LeBron said he could get 35 ppg, which I believe he could plausibly under the right conditions.

Chris Boussard, arguably as big of a LeBron nut gobbler as ISH's own: pauk, NumberSix, RG, secundtonone, KingwillBall, plowking, aj1987, madmax, Hoopenumber1fan ... egged him on to say 40 ppg.

He would not be able to do that, even on a bad team. He just doesn't have the scoring skill set for that, and without his athleticism he had from 2006 - 2010, he's not even coming close.[/QUOTE]

dude wtf is wrong with you? did u witness a slower and physically broken down lebron that no one else saw?

[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]If LeBron only focused on scoring night in and night out, I think you can say he'd realistically average around 37 points. Think about it. He averaged 27 and 8. Take those assists and let's say at least half of them resulted in 8 points or more. That's 35 ppg. He could definitely do it.[/QUOTE]
basketball doesn't work like that.
When you go all out trying to score, the defense can play you in a way that tries to make you pass all the time and give you no open looks. The really good offensive players like Kobe still manage to score through a variety of moves. Lebron really doesn't have an offensive arsenal, he's like Dwight. Hell, I think something like 30% of his points come off the fastbreak. Kind of how like how dwight scores off putbacks and open dunks.

Point is, if he tries to go all out to score, he'll be easily stopped because the defense will focus on him, and he doesn't have that much footwork, offensive moves to skillfully score.

[QUOTE=3peated]dude wtf is wrong with you? did u witness a slower and physically broken down lebron that no one else saw?[/QUOTE]
That's not what I'm saying. His first step in the half court is dramatically slower than pre 2011. His explosion towards the rim in the half court off the dribble is no where near where it once was. Same goes for his leaping ability. That's why we never saw him rise up over Hibbert and dunk, even though he had many chances. You don't see plays like when he posterized the entire Celtics squad anymore. LeBron now requires a full head of steam to get by his man, usually off a pick in order to take them off the dribble, or explode at the rim.

[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]LeBron in 2011- 18\7\7 on 47% shooting
Kobe in 2004- 22\4\4 on 39% shooting.

So basically LeBron was involved in more offence, rebounded better, and was more efficient from the field.

Kobe has never matched LeBrons 2013 Finals Numbers in any of his 7 appearances lol.[/QUOTE]

Not that this makes Kobe look any better but..

If you really think Lebron in the 11 finals was more INVOLVED in the offense than Kobe in the 04 finals.. Then damn. I question wether you know what you're talking about

[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]

Kobe has never matched LeBrons 2013 Finals Numbers in any of his 7 appearances lol.[/QUOTE]
Finals?

How about the real Finals of the early 2000's, the Western Conference Finals.

Lebron could avg 35 easily if he chucked some more. The year kobe avg 35ppg on 27 FGA's lebron avg a shade under 32ppg on 23 FGA's.

Averaging over 32 ppg in a season is incredibly exhausting, it's not just as simple as "chucking", you have to work your ass off to get your shot off in the NBA and take punishment getting hacked all the time for free throw attempts.

Over 82 games, it wears on a player, it's simply not that easy to pull off.

Seriously? He used to average basically 30 a night for the longest time. He could (even more likely a few years back) certainly average 35 a night at a low 40's % clip.

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]That's not what I'm saying. His first step in the half court is dramatically slower than pre 2011. His explosion towards the rim in the half court off the dribble is no where near where it once was. Same goes for his leaping ability. That's why we never saw him rise up over Hibbert and dunk, even though he had many chances. You don't see plays like when he posterized the entire Celtics squad anymore. LeBron now requires a full head of steam to get by his man, usually off a pick in order to take them off the dribble, or explode at the rim.[/QUOTE]

I just think it's unbelievable how LeBron James is still the best athlete in the NBA and yet he's clearly not the same athlete he was 3-4 years ago. I'm not sure he has what it takes to be the GOAT, but he's definitely got a shot because he's got a body built for longevity.