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[QUOTE=Immortal Bum]he was great for two years in the 90s, otherwise he's terribly glorified. a slouch, no way, he's a talent indeed, but drastically overrated. The Undertaker almost feels underrated the way people rave about HBK. Hell, if i was starting a company i'd take prime Triple H (my time) over that prime HBK of the 90s.[/QUOTE]
The fact that you called HBK a slouch in the ring shows you don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
My favorite memories from wrestling:
Stone cold driving the beer truck into the arena spraying the rock and Vince
Stone cold beating Vince in the hospital
The reign of DX
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
1993-2002 were the best years of wrestling. The ruthless aggression era were also solid.
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=kaiteng]In that era:
AJPW > WCW > WWF > ECW > everybody else[/QUOTE]
Invert that homie. Misawa and Kobashi are great and all, but c'mon no storylines, Jun Akiyama is pretty meh... I don't get all the hype about AJ in the late 90's.
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[QUOTE=Flash31]Yeah they did,back in the 70s,early 80s
Four Horsemen were legendary
All over NWA and AWA,even early WCW-Jim Crockett Promotions
and WcW
come on
you had the 16 time Wooo World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair
Ole and Arn Anderson,Tully Blanchard,James Dillon
all those legendary battles with Dusty Rhodes,Harley Race,Steamboat,
Road Warriors,Greg Valentine,Magnum TA
They were the dominating,rebel,do whatever they wanted group before NWO and DX,Evolution was even an idea
The NWO were great,one of all time goat groups(the original),not what it became and they did set WCW and Nitro on fire
but they also burned both to the ground
NWO were all time great but
the 4 Horsemen were simply put Better[/QUOTE]
[B]When I saw era ever and they talk about post '95 stuff like wrestling didnt exist before. So the original post should say this generation or young generation.
Nothing will ever compare to Hulkemania though.
Next definitely the 4 Horseman which was the original
I think NWO was the most shocking though. I wont lie I was a young adult and I purchased NWO and Wolfpac paraphernalia. I think DX was 3rd because they were bubble gum boy band type stuff.
Pure entertainment Stone Cold and then Rock era was the funniest.
Any match Bret Hart was involved in was instant classic. Greatest wrestler to ever grace the mat. Bob backlund and Bruno. NWA/AWA was the bloodiest matches. The WWF tried to emulate it to some extent. Flash you know wrestling for real!:bowdown:
I remember going to matches when it was best 2 out of 3 falls when guys would have to wrestle back to back to back.
Props to Kaiteng and HarryHarryCallahan for knowing AJPW. It was more about wrestling than anything else.
HBK found his place late in his career.[/B]
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=kaiteng]In-ring storytelling is more than enough. Kobashi trying as hard as he could to beat the seemingly unbeatable ace of the company after years of being bottom feeder is a great storyline by itself.
It had a great foreigner roster back then also, "Dr. Death" Steve Williams, Gary Albright, Johnny "People Power" Ace, and Vader.
All they did is great pure pro wrestling matches after matches.[/QUOTE]
Meh. Two guys stiffing and no-selling one-another was never my cup-o-tea. I like watching Misawa chain-wrestle, but he never seemed like he was in much pain. [COLOR="White"]Insert tasteless joke about his in ring heart-attack here.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=HarryCallahan]Meh. Two guys stiffing and no-selling one-another was never my cup-o-tea. I like watching Misawa chain-wrestle, but he never seemed like he was in much pain. [COLOR="White"]Insert tasteless joke about his in ring heart-attack here.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
I'm a big wrestling fan but I've got to admit I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to Japanese wrestling or any over season wrestling for that matter.
I've watched a little, the crowds always seem so calm, seems like they are made up of people in suits, an it's almost as if they take it as a legit sport.
I've heard wrestling in Japan gets alot more respect, and is appreciated as an art form? Is there any truth to that?
Also why is Japanese wrestling so damn stiff. They beat the shit out eachother from what I've seen.
I remember reading on how Dutch Mantell ( Zeb Colter) sold out the 16,000-seat Hiram Bithorn Stadium in San Juan, Puerto for 9 STRAIGHT WEEKS as the booker and as a wrestler. A record that still stands. Apparently these people thought it was real
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[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]I'm a big wrestling fan but I've got to admit I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to Japanese wrestling or any over season wrestling for that matter.
I've watched a little, the crowds always seem so calm, seems like they are made up of people in suits, an it's almost as if they take it as a legit sport.
I've heard wrestling in Japan gets alot more respect, and is appreciated as an art form? Is there any truth to that?
Also why is Japanese wrestling so damn stiff. They beat the shit out eachother from what I've seen.
I remember reading on how Dutch Mantell ( Zeb Colter) sold out the 16,000-seat Hiram Bithorn Stadium in San Juan, Puerto for 9 STRAIGHT WEEKS as the booker and as a wrestler. A record that still stands. Apparently these people thought it was real[/QUOTE]
I know in his first book, Foley mentions that papers print wrestling results next to the baseball results.
The crowds in Japan watch very intently, and really appreciate a good set of chain-wrestling or counters. I think the stiffness has to do with "fighting spirit" in that Japanese crowds respect you for being able to withstand punishment, something that likely dates back to the Sumo tradition of pretty much torturing aspiring sumo's. It's also why no-selling is popular too.
I don't know much about Puerto Rico, but I've seen some Bushwhackers(Sheephearders) matches from there and it was fvcking insane.
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what is op talking about wcw stands for womancrushwednesday
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
lil Meer wasn't even born when the nWo started.... :eek:
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=HarryCallahan]lil Meer wasn't even born when the nWo started.... :eek:[/QUOTE]
people actually watched wrestling? :lol
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]people actually watched wrestling? :lol[/QUOTE]
More people watched it every Monday than MNF
It was like the last season of breaking bad for 4 years in terms of pop culture relevancy. Hell I'd say even more relevant. SouthPark & Wrestling were the 2 biggest things in The states
You really missed out :(
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People actually watch oreimo? [COLOR="White"]People in glass houses meer...[/COLOR]
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=HarryCallahan]People actually watch oreimo? [COLOR="White"]People in glass houses meer...[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
only the cool kids
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[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]only the cool kids[/QUOTE]
I'll trade you a pack of Marlboro's for all of oreimo on a usb?
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throw in some condoms and we might can talk
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]throw in some condoms and we might can talk[/QUOTE]
:
They're for pvssies who are afraid of a little risk.
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[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]More people watched it every Monday than MNF
It was like the last season of breaking bad for 4 years in terms of pop culture relevancy. Hell I'd say even more relevant. SouthPark & Wrestling were the 2 biggest things in The states
You really missed out :([/QUOTE]
This. I'd say from about 96-01 I.E. HBK/Hitman iron man match and nWo formation to the WCW vs WWE invasion storyline, it was some of the most entertaining television ever for me. Right up there with the NBA in the 90s and the current golden era of TV dramas.
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[QUOTE=kaiteng]But when the crowd goes nut, you know something amazing is happening.
Wrestlers have to earn respect much more in Japan than in North America. It can be a good measuring stick for American pro wrestlers in term of creditability. MVP intentionally opted out of WWE contract to train and wrestle in NJPW, the best Japanese company now, for that.[/QUOTE]
I love the sound a Japanese crowd makes near the end of a great match, there's a certain gravitas about the silences in between false finishes when the crow collectively "Uhh's" amd "Ooohh's".
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[QUOTE=guy]This. I'd say from about 96-01 I.E. HBK/Hitman iron man match and nWo formation to the WCW vs WWE invasion storyline, it was some of the most entertaining television ever for me. Right up there with the NBA in the 90s and the current golden era of TV dramas.[/QUOTE]
Just to expand on this:
96 - HBK vs Bret Hart
96 - Formation of the nWo
96-97-98 - nWo vs. WCW
97 - Stone Cold vs Bret Hart
97 - Formation of DX
97 - HBK/DX vs. Bret Hart/Hart Foundation
97-98 - Sting vs Hogan/nWo
97 - Stone Cold vs. the Rock/Nation of Domination
97-98 - Undertaker vs. Kane
98 - Stone Cold vs. HBK/DX/Tyson
98-99 - Stone Cold vs. Vince McMahon
98 - reformation of DX
98 - HHH/DX vs. the Rock/Nation
98 - Undertaker vs. Mankind
98 - Stone Cold vs. Undertaker
98 - Raven vs DDP
98 - Dean Malenko vs. Chris Jericho
98 - nWo Hollywood vs. nWo Wolfpack vs. WCW
98 - Goldberg's streak
98 - Sting vs. Bret Hart
98 - Goldberg vs. DDP
98 - Hogan vs. Warrior
98 - formation of the Corporation
98-99 - the Rock vs. Mankind
99 - Stone Cold vs. the Rock
99 - formation of Corporate Ministry
99 - the Higher Power angle
99 - Stone Cold vs. HHH/DX
99 - HHH/Stephanie marriage
00 - the Radicalz
00 - HHH vs. Cactus Jack
00 - HHH vs. the Rock
00 - Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho
00 - HHH vs. Chris Jericho
00/01 - HHH vs. Stone Cold (WHODUNNIT ANGLE)
01 - Stone Cold vs. the Rock
01 - Shane buying WCW
01 - Stone Cold/Vince McMahon/HHH alliance
01 - WWE vs. WCW/ECW Alliance
01 - Stone Cold vs. Chris Benoit
01 - Stone Cold vs. Kurt Angle
01 - Chris Jericho vs. the Rock
:rockon:
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I liked DX theme song and Sean Michaels is one of my fav wrestlers of all time. I got a kick out of Triple H getting a fresh water bottles only to spit it in the air. How did he get the water to spray so magical? I tried it at home and it doesnt do it like he does.
Never watched the NWO era. I cant take Hulk Hogan all blacked out serious. :confusedshrug:
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[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]people actually watched wrestling? :lol[/QUOTE]
You know a guy who watches
girly anime and fantasizes about anime underage girls and his sister,
Yeah,lol
How old are you again?
you got problems
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=guy]Just to expand on this:
96 - HBK vs Bret Hart
96 - Formation of the nWo
96-97-98 - nWo vs. WCW
97 - Stone Cold vs Bret Hart
97 - Formation of DX
97 - HBK/DX vs. Bret Hart/Hart Foundation
97-98 - Sting vs Hogan/nWo
97 - Stone Cold vs. the Rock/Nation of Domination
97-98 - Undertaker vs. Kane
98 - Stone Cold vs. HBK/DX/Tyson
98-99 - Stone Cold vs. Vince McMahon
98 - reformation of DX
98 - HHH/DX vs. the Rock/Nation
98 - Undertaker vs. Mankind
98 - Stone Cold vs. Undertaker
98 - Raven vs DDP
98 - Dean Malenko vs. Chris Jericho
98 - nWo Hollywood vs. nWo Wolfpack vs. WCW
98 - Goldberg's streak
98 - Sting vs. Bret Hart
98 - Goldberg vs. DDP
98 - Hogan vs. Warrior
98 - formation of the Corporation
98-99 - the Rock vs. Mankind
99 - Stone Cold vs. the Rock
99 - formation of Corporate Ministry
99 - the Higher Power angle
99 - Stone Cold vs. HHH/DX
99 - HHH/Stephanie marriage
00 - the Radicalz
00 - HHH vs. Cactus Jack
00 - HHH vs. the Rock
00 - Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho
00 - HHH vs. Chris Jericho
00/01 - HHH vs. Stone Cold (WHODUNNIT ANGLE)
01 - Stone Cold vs. the Rock
01 - Shane buying WCW
01 - Stone Cold/Vince McMahon/HHH alliance
01 - WWE vs. WCW/ECW Alliance
01 - Stone Cold vs. Chris Benoit
01 - Stone Cold vs. Kurt Angle
01 - Chris Jericho vs. the Rock
:rockon:[/QUOTE]
You forgot Chris Jericho beating the Rock and Stone Cold in the same night.
Shane McMahon vs Big Show last man standing
Triple H vs Mick Foley Hell in a Cell
the Debut of KANE
Chris Jericho's WWF/WWE Debut
APA's bar brawls
Hardcore Title being 24/7
TLC WM
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Buff Bagwell, enough said.
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Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Flash31]You forgot Chris Jericho beating the Rock and Stone Cold in the same night.
Shane McMahon vs Big Show last man standing
Triple H vs Mick Foley Hell in a Cell
the Debut of KANE
Chris Jericho's WWF/WWE Debut
APA's bar brawls
Hardcore Title being 24/7
TLC WM[/QUOTE]
I thought it was on the downhill after the Invasion and they had the undisputed championship. Really, it went downhill for me once Stone Cold turned back into face and it looked like they were just rehashing his stuff again. Don't get me wrong, it was still entertaining as hell, but just didn't feel the same. I just thought they should've given Stone Cold a longer heel run. Obviously, it wouldn't have worked out because he was just way too popular and his injury would've messed that up anyway. But I thought he was a great hell, and ideally, I wish he had a heel run kinda like Hogan did, which lasted a few years.
Forgot Shane O'Mac. All of his matches were amazing vs. X-Pac, Test, Blackman, Big Show were amazing.
I touched on the HIAC match with HHH/Foley when I mentioned the feud. Also touched on the Kane debut by mentioning his feud with the Undertaker. I should've mentioned Undertaker vs. HBK though.
Definitely should've mentioned the last 4 you said though :cheers:
Another underrated feud was the one between Scott Steiner and DDP when Steiner threw Kimberly Page out of a moving car.