The Matrix is the greatest movie ever made.

[QUOTE=dr.hee]Completely irrelevant. The only question you could derive from watching the Matrix is whether it's practically possible to use computer generated input in order to elicit the same brain response patterns that result from our sensory system. Everything else is pseudo-intellectial bullshit (that's where you'll scream "AD HOMINEM" btw...). Duality of waves? GTFO.

Not impressed, kid. You've brought nothing new to the table that hasn't been discussed to death by high school kids after watching Matrix Reloaded. Come on, you can do better.

:kobe:[/QUOTE]

The movie is based on Planck's ideas of the Quantum World. The machine and computer part are purely fictional. The concepts still stand. Stand with me and swallow the red pill.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]The movie is based on Planck's ideas of the Quantum World.[/QUOTE]

Uh, how?



[QUOTE=Budadiii] Educate us Rambo. Tell us why Newton's laws of motion are no longer relevant today. I'm sure NASA would love to here it. [/QUOTE]

Well Rambo has point there. The Matrix does in fact contradict everything we know about physics. Just look at this...

[IMG]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/5/20/16/anigif_enhanced-buzz-7649-1369081559-22.gif[/IMG]

Laws of motion my ass...how can that shot go in? It's all done by imagination, bro.

OP just like to make threads that gets a of attention.

[QUOTE=moe94]Hell are you blabbering about?

[B]Rambo been dodging[/B].[/QUOTE]
What he does is he takes the thing that agree with his premise and ignores everything else and then say he is right. Just look at the thread about the school. He made the same thing, one of the reasons I stop post there, like why bother.

[QUOTE=Bandito]What he does is he takes the thing that agree with his premise and ignores everything else and then say he is right. Just look at the thread about the school. He made the same thing, one of the reasons I stop post there, like why bother.[/QUOTE]

This is how an argument works:

1. Present an argument.

2. Back it up.

3. Formulate a conclusion.

It is not my fault you idiots won't focus on the premise and keep on sidetracking it. I always try to divert it back to the premise, hence why I ignore all the trolls that try to derail it.

Truth of the matter is trolls like Budadaii are too stupid to take it head on.

[img]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/4740/brb-using-imagination.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=dr.hee]Uh, how?





Well Rambo has point there. The Matrix does in fact contradict everything we know about physics. Just look at this...

[IMG]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/5/20/16/anigif_enhanced-buzz-7649-1369081559-22.gif[/IMG]

Laws of motion my ass...how can that shot go in? It's all done by imagination, bro.[/QUOTE]

You can't have movement without thought. Reflect on that for a moment. How will that ball go in without a mental focus on making it in?

The greatest baller of all time said it:[B] basketball has very little to do with physical but all mental.[/B]

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]This is how an argument works:

1. Present an argument.

2. Back it up.

3. Formulate a conclusion.

It is not my fault you idiots won't focus on the premise and keep on sidetracking it. I always try to divert it back to the premise, hence why I ignore all the trolls that try to derail it.[/QUOTE]
cool story bro

[QUOTE=Bandito]cool story bro[/QUOTE]

In the education thread, nobody knew who bloom was nor the methodology he presented.

In this thread, nobody knows anything about Kant nor do they have an inkling of Quantum Physics.

Now tell me who is the true idiot?

lol @ this shitfest. OP is a pretentious troll.

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]lol @ this shitfest. OP is a pretentious troll.[/QUOTE]

No trolling here my friend. Like every single thread I've made, I want to take your thinking to the next level. I make sure what I'm [B]saying is backed up with the strongest facts from the greatest minds.[/B]

It is not my fault most people can't comprehend where I am coming from. It is a fact the majority of the population are stupid, and this very well extends to ISH as well.

The original Matrix is dragged down by two of the worst sequels in movie history and by horrible acting in every scene.

i liked Jurassic Park better

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]In the education thread, nobody knew who bloom was nor the methodology he presented.

In this thread, nobody knows anything about Kant nor do they have an inkling of Quantum Physics.

Now tell me who is the true idiot?[/QUOTE]
That would not make somebody an idiot to be begin with.

That's being ignorant, because ignorance can be cured by reading and/or learning. Idiocy cannot be cured.

Example: Just go to the NBA forum:lol

Secondly, in this thread can you send me a quote when I called you an idiot? You don't have to be so defensive bro.

[QUOTE=DonD13]i liked Jurassic Park better[/QUOTE]

Which one? Also...Jeff Goldblum > Immanuel Kant. Einstein is shitting on both though. But Durant had 54 points yesterday, just sayin...

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]No trolling here my friend. Like every single thread I've made, I want to take your thinking to the next level. I make sure what I'm [B]saying is backed up with the strongest facts from the greatest minds.[/B]

It is not my fault most people can't comprehend where I am coming from. It is a fact the majority of the population are stupid, and this very well extends to ISH as well.[/QUOTE]

But you haven't really said anything in this thread. You made some general statements about Kant and Quantum Physics and then called everyone an idiot who doesn't get where you are coming from. Some people aren't very familiar with Kant or Quantum Physics not because they are stupid but because they simply haven't read much about the subjects.

You tell us you have spent 10 years learning about these subjects and then tell everyone to "do their homework" before you will respond to them. Sorry but most people aren't going to spend all day learning about a topic just so they can respond to some dude on ISH. You should be more willing to earnestly communicate your ideas if you want these threads to be anything more than you trying to get attention.

[QUOTE=Nick Young][IMG]http://www.careerrocketeer.com/wp-content/uploads/Good-Bad-Ugly.jpg[/IMG]

Kant ain't shit[/QUOTE]

I always like For a Few Dollars More... more.

But the correct answer is:

[IMG]http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/wallpapers/96000/the-godfather-part-ii-mobile-wallpaper.jpg[/IMG]

The Matrix franchise fell off HARD after the first film.

Even if the OP is correct when he states that it may be the most intellectual film of all time, how does it make it the Michael Jordan?

A smart movie just means that... that it's 'smart'. Not most entertaining, or acted, or directed, or written or shot, or etc.etc. It has 'an' element that may be superior (again... still some debate) to many others, but not the MJ.

Also, no movie that has Keanu as its star can ever be the MJ... just can't, it's simple common sense that doesn't require Kant to know.

[QUOTE=The Macho Man]What about Point Break?[/QUOTE]

One word:

Patrick Swayze

[IMG]http://www.varietyportal.com/wp-content/uploads/galleries/patrickswayze.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]But you haven't really said anything in this thread. You made some general statements about Kant and Quantum Physics and then called everyone an idiot who doesn't get where you are coming from. Some people aren't very familiar with Kant or Quantum Physics not because they are stupid but because they simply haven't read much about the subjects.

You tell us you have spent 10 years learning about these subjects and then tell everyone to "do their homework" before you will respond to them. Sorry but most people aren't going to spend all day learning about a topic just so they can respond to some dude on ISH. You should be more willing to earnestly communicate your ideas if you want these threads to be anything more than you trying to get attention.[/QUOTE]


This. Having a hard time believing you've got 15 years of research on Kant and Quantum Physics here. Thread seems like you read the cliffs notes of someone's thesis about Kant and the Matrix and are just trying to flex your knowledge despite a cursory handle on the material. You've got 15 years of research on us, not sure what kind of "homework" we can do to compete with that. How about you enlighten us or blow our minds with some real critical thought about what you've taken from the film and it's relevance to quantum physics/Kant instead of laying out some simple ideas and berating anyone who isn't treating your posts as gospel?

I learned from all of his conspiracy theory threads that it's not worth arguing with Rambo. He's a nutbag who is greatly hampered by confirmation bias.

[QUOTE=Jackass18]I learned from all of his conspiracy theory threads that it's not worth arguing with Rambo. He's a nutbag who is greatly hampered by confirmation bias.[/QUOTE]He's always right and everyone else is an idiot:lol

[QUOTE=gigantes]my god, bro... you need to read more books.

(like, a lot a lot more books)[/QUOTE]
Or step outside occassionaly, talk to anyone, pay more attention in school. Lots of things would help.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]2. Planck (a much smarter scientist than Einstein) ran a few experiments that pretty much prove [B]waves (electrical charges) don't actually become matter unless if someone looks at it.[/B] He concluded that matter does not exist and our observation of the world is what creates it, hence the creation of Quantum Physics [B](greatest science of all time).[/B][/QUOTE]

If we don't observe the electrons in the double slit experiment we see the interference pattern created by their wave like behavior. However if we look at events from our past we don't see interference patterns but matter behaving like matter. All of the geological events that occurred billions of years ago show no evidence of wave like behavior yet no human was ever there to observe them. Those events have already occurred so they shouldn't be subject to conscious influence any longer just like the results for the non-observed interference pattern in the double slit experiment.

[QUOTE=miller-time]If we don't observe the electrons in the double slit experiment we see the interference pattern created by their wave like behavior. However if we look at events from our past we don't see interference patterns but matter behaving like matter. All of the geological events that occurred billions of years ago show no evidence of wave like behavior yet no human was ever there to observe them. Those events have already occurred so they shouldn't be subject to conscious influence any longer just like the results for the non-observed interference pattern in the double slit experiment.[/QUOTE]

Then I present to you the concept of quantum entanglement. A photon in the present can actually alter one in the past.

What does this mean in elementary terms?

This means our current conscious observation of a photon can alter the "geolical events" of the past. It goes to reason if we can alter physical matter in the past state, we are changing history itself.

This is the reason why some scientists are talking about time travel based on the laws of this new science.

Look at the cute little philosopher pretending he's in a hard science field.

[QUOTE=Ed Wachter]Look at the cute little philosopher pretending he's in a hard science field.[/QUOTE]

The more I learn about Quantum Physics the more I am beginning to accept this field of study. It took them over 200 years to catch up with sh*t we already knew. I was anti science because I was anti Newton and his perception of the material world. This is an age old ideology philosophy has already destroyed with Berkeley, so it was hard to take it seriously.

Science is only beginning to catch up to philosophy. Congrats. :applause: It is sad though that the Science they teach in education will keep the students dumbed down and not truly comprehend what reality is.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Then I present to you the concept of quantum entanglement. A photon in the present can actually alter one in the past.

What does this mean in elementary terms?

This means our current conscious observation of a photon can alter the "geolical events" of the past. It goes to reason if we can alter physical matter in the past state, we are changing history itself.[/QUOTE]

If that were the case then why do we still see the interference pattern in the double slit experiment? Shouldn't photons in the future be interacting with the results and reordering them in a way so we never observe the interference pattern? Why can we see the interference patten in the experimental data but not in the the geological data?

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]The more I learn about Quantum Physics the more I am beginning to accept this field of study. It took them over 200 years to catch up with sh*t we already knew. I was anti science because I was anti Newton and his perception of the material world. This is an age old ideology philosophy has already destroyed with Berkeley, so it was hard to take it seriously.

Science is only beginning to catch up to philosophy. Congrats. :applause: [B]It is sad though that the Science they teach in education [/B]will keep the students dumbed down and not truly comprehend what reality is.[/QUOTE]
This guy thinks he's Sheldon:lol

Believe it or not I never seen The Matrix.

[QUOTE=miller-time]If that were the case then why do we still see the interference pattern in the double slit experiment? Shouldn't photons in the future be interacting with the results and reordering them in a way so we never observe the interference pattern? Why can we see the interference patten in the experimental data but not in the the geological data?[/QUOTE]

Interference supports entanglement. Single particles are interfering with themselves, this means the state of one particle is not seperate from another whether it is in the past or present. Therefore the present particle state can alter the past one.

Even history itself is a perception of our current state. This idea is hard to grasp, but it is now an established fact based on numerous experiments.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Interference supports entanglement. Single particles are interfering with themselves, this means the state of one particle is not seperate from another whether it is in the past or present. Therefore the present particle state can alter the past one.

Even history itself is a perception of our current state. This idea is hard to grasp, but it is now an established fact based on numerous experiments.[/QUOTE]
This makes absolutely no sense :wtf:

[QUOTE=KingBeasley08]This makes absolutely no sense :wtf:[/QUOTE]

We can alter the past; what happens in the past is no longer an objective reality but rather a reflection of our present mental state. Sure we might have photos, artifacts, videos, etc. to remind us of the past, but the past is nothing more than just a thought, a memory, it doesn't exist other than our reflection of it.

This is literally the first time I've ever seen anyone talk sh!t about Einstein. It's basically the same line of reasoning that young/uneducated posters say that in today's game Wilt=Scalabrine. Tell us more how school is unimportant, and kids should instantly pick a career at the ripe age of 6.

You can see that OP repeats each post with the same thoughts, most likely copy/pasting from someone else and changing few words here and there. If you're so knowledgeable about the universe stop posting BS on a messageboard and publish an article about it.

[QUOTE=T.O.RapsJays]This is literally the first time I've ever seen anyone talk sh!t about Einstein. It's basically the same line of reasoning that young/uneducated posters say that in today's game Wilt=Scalabrine. Tell us more how school is unimportant, and kids should instantly pick a career at the ripe age of 6.

[B]You can see that OP repeats each post with the same thoughts, most likely copy/pasting from someone else and changing few words here and there. If you're so knowledgeable about the universe stop posting BS on a messageboard and publish an article about it[/B].[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter because you're wrong and an idiot.

[QUOTE=T.O.RapsJays]This is literally the first time I've ever seen anyone talk sh!t about Einstein. It's basically the same line of reasoning that young/uneducated posters say that in today's game Wilt=Scalabrine. Tell us more how school is unimportant, and kids should instantly pick a career at the ripe age of 6.

You can see that OP repeats each post with the same thoughts, most likely copy/pasting from someone else and changing few words here and there. If you're so knowledgeable about the universe stop posting BS on a messageboard and publish an article about it.[/QUOTE]

Look as we advance through intellect, older ideas will be replaced by new ones. Einstein's biggest downfall is his unwillingness to accept the Quantum World. The more we understand QP, the less relevant he will be; just like how he made Newton irrevelant before him.

[QUOTE=Bandito]It doesn't matter because you're wrong and an idiot.[/QUOTE]

Bro, go do your homework and then come back with an actual intellectual argument. I have 15+ years of studying on the matter, even though that's only because I imagined it so.

Like one of the greatest athletes ever in the NBA once said: "The game is 99% mental, 1% physical."

[QUOTE=moe94][B]1.Stop being an idiot.[/B]

2.You need more research on this matter.[/QUOTE]

Damn, I forgot [B]to bold an irrelevant part[/B] of my post, good catch. But it's ok, since history is only what I make it out to be, I'll imagine a better reality.