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Interesting how ESPN is totally going apesh+t on Goodell, the owners, and the league. I know that the NFL screwed up, but they are diverting the attention from Rice and what he did. espn has a tendency to do things like this..they always side with players.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]This thing has been so unbelievably blown out of proportion, as is every media sensationalized story in this day and age, it is disgusting. I know seeing a video of an act like this can be pretty damning, but what exactly did people think happened?
It was no secret prior to this madness over the video that Ray Rice punched her in the face, committing an act of domestic violence. People saw the video of Rice carrying her around and trying (and failing) to get her to stand up.
What the hell did they think happened? It was never a secret that he punched her in the face. So, why has this video dominated the 24-hour news cycle for the past three days?
And, I don't think Goddell is lying. I think he has been an awful commissioner and I won't be sorry to see him go, but this holier than thou act that the media pulls off any time the opportunity presents itself has become very transparent to me. Yes, it is completely possible that the video was sent to the NFL offices and it never reached Goddell's office.
But, he has already been essentially tried and found guilty by ESPN, NBC, MSNBC, etc. I'm sick of the news dictating who is a good person and why and who we should all despise.[/QUOTE]
Well put.
The media and social media is to blame for this holier than thou bullshit. Especially social media where every individual is looking to show superior they are morally than everyone else.
[QUOTE=Akrazotile][B]Wait, why is it Goodell and the NFL's job to play ruler of social justice?[/B]
What do you do to combat/discourage violence? If the answer is nothing, should you be fired? What if Ray Rice had punched out a man and was a first time offender? Is this as big a deal? We have to give women equal pay and equal say, but then give them special treatment when they want it?
Do you like watching football? If you do, then watch it. If you dont, then take up gardening. Honestly why the fukc do you care if Roger Goodell is the commissioner or not? I would love to hear an answer that doesnt come off as completely hypocritical.[/QUOTE]
Goodell has essentially taken on that role from Day 1 with his heavy punishments and explicit desire to clean up player behavior.
Where's the outrage at the law enforcement?
The NFL is a business and should not be in the business of imposing their morals on their customers.
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Goodell has essentially taken on that role from Day 1 with his heavy punishments and explicit desire to clean up player behavior.[/QUOTE]
And the same people complaining about inaction now were the ones complaining about his action then.
The public just needs something to whine about to pass the time. God forbid they should go get a life or pick up a hobby.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]Where's the outrage at the law enforcement?
The NFL is a business and should not be in the business of imposing their morals on their customers.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but the law enforcement didn't lie. There was some minor backlash against the attorney general or whomever conducted the case against Ray Rice, but all he got was like anger management or something silly. The reason was apparently "This is a very typical punishment for all first time domestic abusers."
I'm not so sure about that, but I'm not well versed on how first time abusers are punished in the court. I also would imagine Janey's testimony helped her husband's case at the time anyways.
Goodell literally could have been like "We've suspended 2 games because historically we've suspended all first time domestic violence abusers 2 games and we're not going to let public opinion sway that." Or even "We usually suspend 2 games for these types of things but our punishments are antiquated and we need a higher suspension limit so we're going to go with 8 and set the standard here on out".
But he literally did the worst thing he could have, and that was lie and then react based on public sentiment. It's a big fumble on his part and makes him look like a stooge.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]Punishment too light? Employers don't punish players it is up to the legal system to punish them. The NFL is just like all of us, we all have differing opinions on the situation. I don't think that beating was that bad and I think she provoked him. The NFL probably felt the same way as I do.
You can judge the court of law on whether the punishment fits the crime but the you cannot hold the NFL with the same standards as the courts.[/QUOTE]
not in something like the nfl. That is the whole point of the cba. the nfl has its own punishments and of course we can have an opinion on it.
and, of course this scumbag doesnt think it was that bad to knock your baby mama the **** out because she provoked you.
[QUOTE=Akrazotile]And the same people complaining about inaction now were the ones complaining about his action then.
The public just needs something to whine about to pass the time. God forbid they should go get a life or pick up a hobby.[/QUOTE]
Not denying that but Goodell is the one who established the standards by which he is being judged. Sure, plenty of people are just voices looking to shout an opinion but a lot of people are genuinely upset (and have good reason to be). I'm not saying he had to adopt a scorched earth policy but he failed in his stated goal of cleaning up NFL behavior and may have went out of his way to cover up the situation in doing so.
I think the Ravens deserve a lot more criticism for not responding more thoroughly especially since Ozzie Newsome stated that Ray told him the entire truth about the event. I think the focus should be more on Rice and the history of violence against women in the NFL. Shit, there should even be discussion about the PED culture in the NFL that leads to wildly imbalanced players that lash out violently (something that Goodell has done almost nothing to address). But these stories are often about people and scapegoats...not systemic causes.