Has Anyone Had As Many Injuries As D-Rose Wearing Nikes???

[QUOTE=r15mohd]i don't doubt that the overcompensation point, however it is pretty bold not to even question it when the shoe basically gave loose :confusedshrug:

what's the scenario on possibly a wet floor?

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High top shoes don't reduce ankle injuries. Taping does though. Its's not his shoes. It's actually better for your foot if the shoe did give out and allow your ankle to roll the way it would naturally. So no, it's not his shoes. Listen, injuries can also occur on turf, grass, hardwood, etc from stopping or doing some movement that is just exacerbated by any shoe, cleat, whatever on that surface. His foot got hung up on the floor, it happens.

No, it's stupidly bold to be a sheep and think that it must be his shoes. This is just ridiculous. My friend who is a brain surgeon at OSU and a basketball junkie said to me two weeks ago "Rose is hurt again, he's done." And went on to say exactly what I'm saying. That he's going to be plagued with injuries from his first injury. I'll trust my common sense and the opinion of a brain surgeon over a bunch of zit faced morons.

[QUOTE=r15mohd]i don't doubt that the overcompensation point, however it is pretty bold not to even question it when the shoe basically gave loose :confusedshrug:

what's the scenario on possibly a wet floor?

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Watching that replay, it looked like a small ankle tweak.

I feel relieved, that doesn't look like a hamstring strain or a knee.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]I cannot believe the stupidity in this thread. While shoes w lots of arch support it no arch support could cause problems like PF in some people, the likelihood of his shoes causing his acl injury and subsequent injuries are very small. What is much more likely is that he has a biomechanical problem (some type of imbalance) that caused his first injury and a resulting imbalamce from that injury that is helping cause these subsequent injuries. That happens sometimes with guys who suffer big injuries in their legs and back. FILA didn't injure grant Hill and Nike didnt injure Durant and Oden and Bynum.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]Noah wore bogus ass le coq de sportiff. Mainly because his dad wore them. They are mainly tennis shoes. He had planter flasciutus. He actually sued them. Lol.
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He sued them because they owed him money. As for PF, he just says he believes they might contributed to his development of PF. The correlation was not confirmed and the shoe quality was not the reason he sued the company for. I actually owned a pair of his shoes and they were decent. They were built closer to the 90s basketball shoes so that means no fancy cushioning (which can be counterproductive), but the quality of the materials was much better than what you would get on your retro Js and many players play in those. Not to mention that a lot of NBA players play in foamposites which are terrible to play basketball in and they do just fine.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Yes it can be overlooked because people have injuries all the time and play in all kinds of shoes. This is just some bullshit theory that a bunch of uninformed kids picked up on and won't let go of. The guy suffered one injury that led to a bunch of subsequent injuries, that has nothing to do with his shoes. Yao had foot injuries so it must surely have been his shoes right? And T-Mac's that must have been his shoes as well? And Oden? And Bynum? and Brandon Roy? Penny? People get injuries all the time. This is a very obvious case of a guy getting injured and compensating and causing other injuries. A succession of injuries stemming from one injury is not uncommon and happens all the time. Why everyone wants to put it down to Roses shoes is totally stupid and not fair to him and pointless.[/QUOTE]


I don't think it's that far-fetched to be honest. I've played in a ton of differents shoes & brands and trust me it can make a big difference. Don't get me wrong I don't believe you're going to tear your acl by playing in Adidas or any other brand because that has some other reasons as you correctly mentioned but what happened to Rose the other night clearly looks like a shoe-issue to me. Furthermore if I remember correctly he sprained his ankle as soon as he put on those cut-down Adidas Crazylights 2-3 years ago. I think he never wore them again afterwards.

[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]Nikes undisputed goat shoes.

Tonight looks like those cheap addidas of roses made him slip and now he got hamstring injury.


Addidas are pieces of shit.

Just typin, is it a coincidence rose gettin hurt so much?

I can't remember any nike wearing player having this many injuries.[/QUOTE]

It's Adidas you moron not Addidas. It's named after the company's founder Adi Dassler. "aid das" Get it? I knew you would because you're smart.

[QUOTE=2swift4u]I don't think it's that far-fetched to be honest. I've played in a ton of differents shoes & brands and trust me it can make a big difference. Don't get me wrong I don't believe you're going to tear your acl by playing in Adidas or any other brand because that has some other reasons as you correctly mentioned but what happened to Rose the other night clearly looks like a shoe-issue to me. Furthermore if I remember correctly he sprained his ankle as soon as he put on those cut-down Adidas Crazylights 2-3 years ago. I think he never wore them again afterwards.[/QUOTE]
Cool, you do know that high tops don't prevent you from rolling your ankle right? Wow, so a guy puts on new shoes and gets injured and decides that those shoes must have caused the injury and so he never wears them again. Ok great. So I got gas from a gas station that I never go to and then my car broke down so clearly it must have been that gas that made my car break down. You're logic and reasoning are incredible. Look for a future in academics.

Adidas = German = evil nazis
Nike = American = heavenly gift
Premise of this thread.

[QUOTE=2swift4u]I don't think it's that far-fetched to be honest. I've played in a ton of differents shoes & brands and trust me it can make a big difference. Don't get me wrong I don't believe you're going to tear your acl by playing in Adidas or any other brand because that has some other reasons as you correctly mentioned but what happened to Rose the other night clearly looks like a shoe-issue to me. Furthermore if I remember correctly he sprained his ankle as soon as he put on those cut-down Adidas Crazylights 2-3 years ago. I think he never wore them again afterwards.[/QUOTE]


exactly this...you can't overlook the possibility is all I'm saying, the shoe gave away at some point. whether it be due to a wet floor allowing no grip or simply malfunction on the shoes part, and we aren't even talking of his ankle, it's a factor.

chocolate even indicated it being a very small probability to this, though probable :rolleyes:...now he wants to throw in his OSU brain surgeon specialist about assessing a foot injury. where's your orthopedic and podiatry friends to lend their knowledge? :facepalm

[QUOTE=r15mohd]exactly this...you can't overlook the possibility is all I'm saying, the shoe gave away at some point. whether it be due to a wet floor allowing no grip or simply malfunction on the shoes part, and we aren't even talking of his ankle, it's a factor.

chocolate even indicated it being a very small probability to this, though probable :rolleyes:...now he wants to throw in his OSU brain surgeon specialist about assessing a foot injury. where's your orthopedic and podiatry friends to lend their knowledge? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Ok smart guy, let's talk about podiatry. Podiatrists aren't even MDs in most cases you moron. You really made yourself look smart there. My friend who is the brain surgeon works all the time with orthos with athletes at OSU but I'm sure you knew that. More than half his surgeries involve the back and the spine not the brain but I'm sure that you knew that as well. You also knew that in dealing with back problems that all factors are taken in to account such as hamstring and lower leg problems/imbalances etc, right? Sure you did because you're smart.

Ok, please tell me what about Nikes caused Pennys injury or Odens or Tmac or whoever else had awful injuries in them. So lets see, these shoes are so bad that they gave way to cause not only an ACL tear but also a meniscus tear and then two ankle sprains and now a hamstring injury. Makes sense to me.

I said the possibility being small as in almost impossible just because I would never rule anything out but it's almost zero. If you think that his shoes caused his injuries, then you're an absolute moron. What more can I say. Never mind that hightop shoes have been shown to not prevent ankle injuries but yes, somehow his shoes are ruining his career. Please tell me how Nash's Nikes have ruined the end of his career. Seems odd that all his injuries have happened in those shoes.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]It's Adidas you moron not Addidas. It's named after the company's founder Adi Dassler. "aid das" Get it? I knew you would because you're smart.[/QUOTE]

Lol. Lol.

You wanna shoe battle you googling stupid son of heroin ho?

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Ok smart guy, let's talk about podiatry. Podiatrists aren't even MDs in most cases you moron. You really made yourself look smart there. My friend who is the brain surgeon works all the time with orthos with athletes at OSU but I'm sure you knew that. More than half his surgeries involve the back and the spine not the brain but I'm sure that you knew that as well. You also knew that in dealing with back problems that all factors are taken in to account such as hamstring and lower leg problems/imbalances etc, right? Sure you did because you're smart.

Ok, please tell me what about Nikes caused Pennys injury or Odens or Tmac or whoever else had awful injuries in them. So lets see, these shoes are so bad that they gave way to cause not only an ACL tear but also a meniscus tear and then two ankle sprains and now a hamstring injury. Makes sense to me.

I said the possibility being small as in almost impossible just because I would never rule anything out but it's almost zero. If you think that his shoes caused his injuries, then you're an absolute moron. What more can I say. Never mind that hightop shoes have been shown to not prevent ankle injuries but yes, somehow his shoes are ruining his career. Please tell me how Nash's Nikes have ruined the end of his career. Seems odd that all his injuries have happened in those shoes.[/QUOTE]

Nash hurt his back carrying groceries doe.

This latest injury looked like his shoe gave out.

A long line of ADDDDDDDDidas sponsored players have been injured.

There's something to it. adddddddddddidas suck. Bottom line.

[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]Lol. Lol.

You wanna shoe battle you googling stupid son of heroin ho?[/QUOTE]
I don't even know what shoe battling is but I know how to spell Adidas. I'm 42 and I'm the son of a bookkeeper not a heroin ho. And I didn't have to google that. I know that because I'm smart, just like you apparently. I know who started Nike, Puma and Adidas. I have no idea who started other shoe companies. I know this because I'm a distance runner and if you were one too you would know that and understand why I do but since you're a moron, you don't.

[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]Lol. Lol.

You wanna shoe battle you googling stupid son of heroin ho?[/QUOTE]
Why does he have to be a son of heroin ho? Why aim so low? You coulda gone with "son of a semon demon" or "son of a DMV worker".

[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]Nash hurt his back carrying groceries doe.

This latest injury looked like his shoe gave out.

A long line of ADDDDDDDDidas sponsored players have been injured.

There's something to it. adddddddddddidas suck. Bottom line.[/QUOTE]
Ok, list me the players wearing shoes other than Adidas who have been hurt.
Penny, Hill, Oden, Roy, Yao, Bynum, Kobe (not when he was w Adidas), Nash, Durant, Noel (KY), Webber, Amare.

Ok, I got it started for you. Now you continue it and then list me all the Adidas players who have been hurt.

Thanks.

Oh, I don't like Adidas or Rose just to be clear but I hate stupidity even more.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Ok smart guy, let's talk about podiatry. Podiatrists aren't even MDs in most cases you moron. You really made yourself look smart there. My friend who is the brain surgeon works all the time with orthos with athletes at OSU but I'm sure you knew that. More than half his surgeries involve the back and the spine not the brain but I'm sure that you knew that as well. You also knew that in dealing with back problems that all factors are taken in to account such as hamstring and lower leg problems/imbalances etc, right? Sure you did because you're smart.

Ok, please tell me what about Nikes caused Pennys injury or Odens or Tmac or whoever else had awful injuries in them. So lets see, these shoes are so bad that they gave way to cause not only an ACL tear but also a meniscus tear and then two ankle sprains and now a hamstring injury. Makes sense to me.

I said the possibility being small as in almost impossible just because I would never rule anything out but it's almost zero. If you think that his shoes caused his injuries, then you're an absolute moron. What more can I say. Never mind that hightop shoes have been shown to not prevent ankle injuries but yes, somehow his shoes are ruining his career. Please tell me how Nash's Nikes have ruined the end of his career. Seems odd that all his injuries have happened in those shoes.[/QUOTE]

we can go on and on about this...fact of the matter is it's probable, therefore to dismiss it initially is falsified, as you want to indicate. if you refuse to see that assessing things from every angle is unwarranted that's on you...it's probably why your friend is the surgeon and not you,he's obviously detailed in his work. *see, i can throw out rhetoric in my posts too:rolleyes:

and since you want to get technical, it's neurosurgeon not brain surgeon in ALL cases. as for podiatry, I like how you throw in most cases here...still leaving the probability aspect :rolleyes:

just agree to disagree and move along :cheers:

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Ok, list me the players wearing shoes other than Adidas who have been hurt.
Penny, Hill, Oden, Roy, Yao, Bynum, Kobe (not when he was w Adidas), Nash, Durant, Noel (KY), Webber, Amare.

Ok, I got it started for you. Now you continue it and then list me all the Adidas players who have been hurt.

Thanks.

Oh, I don't like Adidas or Rose just to be clear but I hate stupidity even more.[/QUOTE]

Danilo gallinari tore his acl right after he switched to addddddidas.

Shumpert.

Rubio.

Wall.

Barbosa.

Dwight Howard.

Brook Lopez.

Eric Gordon.


As a smart guy you claim to be, the proportion of adddddddddidddas wearing players have high rate for injury.

WAY more players wear nike than addddiddaas.

Nothing, coincidence and pattern.

Heard of that one ?

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]It's Adidas you moron not Addidas. It's named after the company's founder Adi Dassler. [b]"aid das" [/b]Get it? I knew you would because you're smart.[/QUOTE]
This post is golden

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]I don't even know what shoe battling is but I know how to spell Adidas. I'm 42 and I'm the son of a bookkeeper not a heroin ho. And I didn't have to google that. I know that because I'm smart, just like you apparently. I know who started Nike, Puma and Adidas. I have no idea who started other shoe companies. I know this because I'm a distance runner and if you were one too you would know that and understand why I do but since you're a moron, you don't.[/QUOTE]


You're 42, really smart and yet you have nothing better to do than insulting people on this forum. I'm impressed! :applause:

[QUOTE=r15mohd]we can go on and on about this...fact of the matter is it's probable, therefore to dismiss it initially is falsified, as you want to indicate. if you refuse to see that assessing things from every angle is unwarranted that's on you...it's probably why your friend is the surgeon and not you,he's obviously detailed in his work. *see, i can throw out rhetoric in my posts too:rolleyes:

and since you want to get technical, it's neurosurgeon not brain surgeon in ALL cases. as for podiatry, I like how you throw in most cases here...still leaving the probability aspect :rolleyes:

just agree to disagree and move along :cheers:[/QUOTE]
Most of the idiots on here wouldn't know what neurosurgery is but they know what a brain surgeon is. Unlike orthopedics, a neurosurgeon is often referred to as a "brain surgeon". Yes an overwhelming majority of podiatrists are not MDs, there is nothing misleading about my statement. And no, something being a remote possibility doesn't make it "probable". Yes there is a possibility that you could die in a plane crash but that doesn't make it "probable" as you said. It's a possibility not a probability. "To dismiss it is falsified", nothing is "falsified". You might want to check your Funk and Wagnalls on that one. If you've ever diagnosed a problem or problem solved you consider all things and the things that are least likely to be of concern are given the least amount of attention for obvious reasons. You don't rule anything out just because it's the least possible but you don't give it the weight you would give things that are much more likely or of sounder reasoning. In the universe, almost anything is possible so nothing is ever completely ruled out without exhaustive research. But to take the least possible thing possible and to focus all of your energy on that one thing is foolish.

I was wondering the same thing when I saw Rose go down last night. But those Kobe nike low tops are treacherous for your ankles.

[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]Danilo gallinari tore his acl right after he switched to addddddidas.

Shumpert.

Rubio.

Wall.

Barbosa.

Dwight Howard.

Brook Lopez.

Eric Gordon.


As a smart guy you claim to be, the proportion of adddddddddidddas wearing players have high rate for injury.

WAY more players wear nike than addddiddaas.

Nothing, coincidence and pattern.

Heard of that one ?[/QUOTE]

Ok, so our sample size is 20 total. That's really scientific. What you need to do is compile a list of all lower body injuries and the shoes they were wearing at the time they were injured. Then compare that to the proportion of adidas vs non adidas. If Adidas players were actually injured more you would have something that shows correlation. Anyone who has ever reviewed or been part of a study would also know that correlation does not equal causation. So you would then have devise a way that could possibly show causation. Good luck.

[QUOTE=TheMan]This post is golden[/QUOTE]
I don't get it but if it made you laugh at me, I'm cool w that.

[QUOTE=2swift4u]You're 42, really smart and yet you have nothing better to do than insulting people on this forum. I'm impressed! :applause:[/QUOTE]
Actually, I'm just killing time before I have to work. The stupidity here is staggering. How would you respond to the things that have been said here? It's amazing.

How about Steph Curry and his never ending ankle problems? Nike even went so far as gave him bunch of pairs of an older model because this was the only pair that he could wear comfortably. Now he wears Under Armour and his problems seem to be gone. Must be the Nikes, huh?

Really, this is beyond idiotic. Every athlete deals with injuries, though some may be smaller and we don't hear about them as much because he plays through. There's no correlation between the type of shoe someone wore and his injury. If there was any, even if there was a smaller chance certain model could cause potential injuries, the medical staff would prevent players to wear it. I remember that in many teams the doctors wouldn't allow the players to wear the first generation of Nike Hyperfuse shoes because they didn't consider the safe.

[QUOTE=iznogood]How about Steph Curry and his never ending ankle problems? Nike even went so far as gave him bunch of pairs of an older model because this was the only pair that he could wear comfortably. Now he wears Under Armour and his problems seem to be gone. Must be the Nikes, huh?

Really, this is beyond idiotic. Every athlete deals with injuries, though some may be smaller and we don't hear about them as much because he plays through. There's no correlation between the type of shoe someone wore and his injury. If there was any, even if there was a smaller chance certain model could cause potential injuries, the medical staff would prevent players to wear it. I remember that in many teams the doctors wouldn't allow the players to wear the first generation of Nike Hyperfuse shoes because they didn't consider the safe.[/QUOTE]


It's def the nikes. Wanna shoe battle?

It's funny because Rose wanted to be apart of Nike, but they didn't want to sign him.

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]It's funny because Rose wanted to be apart of Nike, but they didn't want to sign him.[/QUOTE]
Nike will sign anyone. You mean they didnt want to sign him to a huge deal.

[QUOTE=navy]Nike will sign anyone. You mean they didnt want to sign him to a huge deal.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was obvious I meant for a signature shoe deal, and the amount he'd get paid. That's why he went with Adidas. It's literally the reverse of Jordan's situation in '85. Wanting to wear the stripes, but Nike offered him a bigger contract.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Actually, I'm just killing time before I have to work. The stupidity here is staggering. How would you respond to the things that have been said here? It's amazing.[/QUOTE]

We are typing shit for brains.

We are not talking.

It's people like you that don't even know the difference between speaking and typing , yet think you're so smart.

Get accurate dipshit.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]It's def the nikes. Wanna shoe battle?[/QUOTE]


Imitation is the ultimate form of flattery.

I'm flattered, but stop biting

[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]We are typing shit for brains.

We are not talking.

It's people like you that don't even know the difference between speaking and typing , yet think you're so smart.

Get accurate dipshit.[/QUOTE]

Not sure if you know this but you can use say/said when referring to written words as well. Go ahead and look at definition number seven. You knew that already though I'm sure.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/say[/url]

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Not sure if you know this but you can use say/said when referring to written words as well. Go ahead and look at definition number seven. You knew that already though I'm sure.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/say[/url][/QUOTE]


Lol. 7th ?

Nope.

We are typing.

Get accurate.

Accept your slay and move on.

And don't imitate me anymore unless I authorize it.

[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]This latest injury looks clearly like his shoe gave out causing him to **** up his hamstring.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://youtu.be/dnDwFTRG0Bg[/url]

[QUOTE=el_locoteee][url]http://youtu.be/dnDwFTRG0Bg[/url][/QUOTE]
:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Bless Mathews]Lol. 7th ?

Nope.

We are typing.

Get accurate.

Accept your slay and move on.

And don't imitate me anymore unless I authorize it.[/QUOTE]
7th. Yes, as in there are several definitions and all of them accepted. Have a great day.

[QUOTE=HurricaneKid]Lol at the loyalty some of you show these mega corporations that spend 5x more on marketing than they do on producing the actual shoes.[/QUOTE]

I know lol. Both Adidas and Nike shoes are cheap pieces of garbage made by enslaved Chinese children. It's simply marketing. These shoes don't increase athletic performance and studies actually show that it leads to a higher injury rate because the thickness of the shoe bottoms encourage unnatural heel running

[QUOTE=secund2nun]I know lol. Both Adidas and Nike shoes are cheap pieces of garbage made by enslaved Chinese children. It's simply marketing. These shoes don't increase athletic performance and studies actually show that it leads to a higher injury rate because the thickness of the shoe bottoms encourage unnatural heel running[/QUOTE]
Honestly heel running happens more in distance running with shoes with a large heel to toe drop than it does in basketball shoes because often in basketball you're sprinting and on your toes already.

[QUOTE=secund2nun]I know lol. Both Adidas and Nike shoes are cheap pieces of garbage made by enslaved Chinese children. It's simply marketing. These shoes don't increase athletic performance and studies actually show that it leads to a higher injury rate because the thickness of the shoe bottoms encourage unnatural heel running[/QUOTE]


Enslaved children,?? Lol

The earth is round.

Can you call me ? I can sell your dumbass anything with 150% markup.

[QUOTE=TheMan]Shoes do make a difference, not 100% positive if that's the case with DRose but the replay clearly shows his shoe giving away. I even thought for a moment that maybe it was a wet spot due to sweating but Patrick Ewing has long since retired[/QUOTE]

Lol @ the Ewing comment

[QUOTE=Undisputed]Do shoes seriously make that much of a difference? I would think these injuries happen regardless, but I'm no shoe expert.[/QUOTE]

They do, but people need a scapegoat.
Duncan is an Adidas athlete and look at his longevity. So was Garnett. Kobe never went through long term injuries until he signed with Nike.

KAJ, the posterboy for longevity. Adidas. Nuff said