I think they got it tbh. This team is loaded. Even without love
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I think they got it tbh. This team is loaded. Even without love
[QUOTE=3ball]they just got another all-star caliber talent in JR Smith, who has only ever needed to be motivated to play up to his talent level... he'll be motivated in lebron-ville.
then they just got mosgov, who's always been a valued gem of a big man - shot-blocker, banger and finisher around the rim - exactly what the cavs were missing.
the cavs already had the league's best top talent - they're the only team in the league with 3 dream-teamers and/or all-stars.
and now, with these additions, they have the best supporting talent in the league...
does anyone in the league have a better top 3, or better supporting talent after the top 3?
they will breeze through the all-time weak East, and face an inexperienced team in the Finals (HOU OR GS), who will shudder in the bright lights and lose to the cavs... that pretty much covers it... :([/QUOTE]
whether you hate him or not. 3ball is a legit basketball mind
this ninja ****ing scares me sometimes.............
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[B]Every SG and SF who was All-Defensive Team while guarding Lebron or Kobe[/B]
Shawn Marion
Andre Igoudala
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365450][u]Kobe Bryant[/u][/url]
Kawhi Leonard
Lebron James
Gerald Wallace
Bruce Bowen
Tayshaun Prince
Andrei Kirelinko
Jimmy Butler
Luol Deng
Paul George
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV52IrBoj90][u]Ron Artest[/u][/url]
Thabo Sefalosha
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10924107&postcount=24][u]Shane Battier[/u][/url]
Tony Allen
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IQKeenIKw&t=8m51s][u]Raja Bell[/u][/url]
Dwayne Wade
Doug Christie
Larry Hughes
[B]Every SG and SF who was All-Defensive Team while guarding MJ[/B]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359858][u]Dennis Rodman[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376404][u]Michael Cooper[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10536861&postcount=264][u]Derrick McKey[/u][/url]
Ronaldo Blackman
Alvin Robertson
Sidney Moncrief
Eddie Jones
John Starks
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xca8mjSzjIo&t=0m28s][u]Doug Christie[/u][/url]
Anthony Mason
Clifford Robinson
Nate McMillan
Dan Majerle
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvquD3ktNbQ][u]Latrell Sprewell[/u][/url]
Joe Dumars
Dennis Johnson
Bobby Phills
Paul Pressey
Rodney McCray
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd9ayPlqCMg][u]Shawn Marion[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352753][u]Kevin Garnett[/u][/url][size="3"]***[/size]
[B]MJ's Best Two-Way Opponents:[/B]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10695321&postcount=8][u]Clyde Drexler[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10744903&postcount=25][u]Dominique Wilkins[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365450][u]Kobe Bryant[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10692264&postcount=24][u]Penny Hardaway[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10667322#post10667322][u]Grant Hill[/u][/url]
Ron Harper
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373989][u]Reggie Lewis[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCOJQOMEJ4Y][u]Ray Allen[/u][/url]
Sean Elliot
Michael Finley
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10744186&postcount=18][u]Kendall Gill[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10692400&postcount=30][u]Richard Dumas[/u][/url]
Nick Anderson
Jerry Stackhouse
[SIZE="3"]***[/SIZE][I]You'll notice that I included a prime Garnett in MJ's list, since he and MJ both played SF in 2002 - in their first meeting when MJ was a Wizard, they were matched up SF vs. SF for the entire game.. MJ scored 35 on Garnett in every way imaginable from the opening tip - at the 4:00 mark, Jordan scores on Garnett for 5 consecutive possessions, with the announcers getting more excited each time:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=embqhggoep4[/url]
Lebron was never guarded by a prime Garnett.. I doubt he would have the quickness to make it a huge mismatch like MJ did.. After all, guys like Boris Diaw, Gordon Hayward fare well against Lebron defensively.[/I]
Also, the list above doesn't include many of the tremendous offensive wings that MJ faced including: Dr. J, James Worthy, Bernard King, Mitch Richmond, Alex English, Glenn Robinson, Jamaal Mashburn, Detlef Schrempf, Chris Mullin, [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366456][u]Larry Bird[/u][/url], Fat Lever, Jeff Hornacek, Allan Houston, Jeff Malone, Glen Rice, [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=360034][u]Kiki Vandeweghe[/u][/url]
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[QUOTE=3ball]**** me running if I'm right... :hammerhead:
If the Cavs beat Warriors this year and Lebron puts up GOAT stats, I will have to concede that he's finally had a championship run that compares to one of MJ's from a dominance standpoint.
And if Kyrie is MIA, that's the only way they can win - by Lebron putting up GOAT stats..[B] I'm thinking 36 PPG, 10 RPG, 10 APG - basically, MJ-level dominance from 1991-1993 type shit[/B], although a lot more TO's and worse efficiency... Or maybe just 32 PPG on even lower efficiency, but he's just GOAT-level clutch - EVERY big shot, like MJ in 1997 or 1998.
Regardless, I'd surely throw up in my mouth a little bit if it appears the series is headed this direction.
.[/QUOTE]
WTF are you talking about? MJ never averaged a triple double for a finals run
He never averaged a double double for a playoff series either.
[QUOTE=3ball]they just got another all-star caliber talent in JR Smith, who has only ever needed to be motivated to play up to his talent level... he'll be motivated in lebron-ville.
then they just got mosgov, who's always been a valued gem of a big man - shot-blocker, banger and finisher around the rim - exactly what the cavs were missing.
the cavs already had the league's best top talent - they're the only team in the league with 3 dream-teamers and/or all-stars.
and now, with these additions, they have the best supporting talent in the league...
does anyone in the league have a better top 3, or better supporting talent after the top 3?
they will breeze through the all-time weak East, and face an inexperienced team in the Finals (HOU OR GS), who will shudder in the bright lights and lose to the cavs... that pretty much covers it... :([/QUOTE]
BRUUHH :bowdown:
After they were 19 - 20 the trades, and getting lebron back healthy..
Cavs are 34 - 9 in regular season, 12 - 2 in playoffs...and 14 - 1 against the west.
And between playoffs and regular season, they only lost two game at home.
And 2 losses coming out of those 9 , there was no Lebron.
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/GQxCxLA.gif[/IMG]
Being brutally honest, the Cavs do have a good shot if the role players continue their solid play. The Cavs D has been really good, much better than I thought they could do. Maybe it's a bit skewed because the level of quality in the East is worse than the West but they have a much better defensive unit with Shump and TT in the starting line up. GSW are on a whole different level though, they can score and play D.
About LeBron, this is exactly what I wanted to see from him. Too many times in the past, if he was struggling with his shot, he become less aggressive. But in this postseason, even if he's shooting at a lower FG% and turning the ball over, he's still being aggressive and willing his team to the finish line. Sometimes you're just gonna struggle with your shot but if you play good D and keep being aggressive, good things happen. Looks like Bran finally understands this.
Congrats to Cleveland
[QUOTE=J Shuttlesworth]WTF are you talking about? MJ never averaged a triple double for a finals run
[B][SIZE="4"]He never averaged a double double for a playoff series either.[/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ivAgDjD.png[/IMG]
I think the Cavs starting unit can hold their own, but what about that bench?
Only Jr Smith and Delladova, idk man warriors are too stacked.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ivAgDjD.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I meant playoff run. my bad
[QUOTE=J Shuttlesworth]I meant playoff run. my bad[/QUOTE]
Magic averaged a double double for 9 straight playoff runs. What does he win for that?
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Magic averaged a double double for 9 straight playoff runs. What does he win for that?[/QUOTE]
Accolades that he didn't really deserve because those should've gone to Kareem.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Magic averaged a double double for 9 straight playoff runs. What does he win for that?[/QUOTE]
I think you missed the point that 3ball claimed LeBron has to have a 36/10/10 series for it to be an "MJ level finals"... which is asinine considering MJ never averaged those numbers for a finals
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Magic averaged a double double for 9 straight playoff runs. What does he win for that?[/QUOTE]
Being considered one of the best players of all-time, maybe?
[QUOTE=TheBigVeto]Accolades that he didn't really deserve because those should've gone to Kareem.[/QUOTE]
He deserved everything he got, and in fact was better than Byron Scott in 1988.
[QUOTE=3ball]they just got another all-star caliber talent in JR Smith, who has only ever needed to be motivated to play up to his talent level... he'll be motivated in lebron-ville.
then they just got mosgov, who's always been a valued gem of a big man - shot-blocker, banger and finisher around the rim - exactly what the cavs were missing.
the cavs already had the league's best top talent - they're the only team in the league with 3 dream-teamers and/or all-stars.
and now, with these additions, [B]they have the best supporting talent in the league..[/B].
does anyone in the league have a better top 3, or better supporting talent after the top 3?
they will breeze through the[B] all-time weak East[/B], and face an inexperienced team in the Finals [B](HOU OR GS[/B]), who will shudder in the bright lights and lose to the cavs... that pretty much covers it... :([/QUOTE]
Spot on as always :applause:
3ball won the ISH MVP award, and he delivers.
:applause: :applause: :applause:
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]He deserved everything he got, and in fact was better than Byron Scott in 1988.[/QUOTE]
Did he, really? I think you'll find that a lot of people think Kareem should have won the 1985 MVP (and some who argue the first one should have gone to Kareem as well)
They will win game 7 on Delly's game winning shot.
[QUOTE=StrongLurk]You know, I actually like you as a poster since Jordan was my sports idol growing up. But this is so obvious a troll. One, Cavs aren't winning this year. Two, comparing Wade and Bosh to Jordan and Barkley is :facepalm. Three, even if I go by the point that Wade and Bosh were the best at their positions like Jordan and Barkley...they still weren't even that. Wade you can argue for, but after 2011-2012 season, Wade declined hard. And Bosh the best PF:biggums:, maybe top 5, maybe.[/QUOTE]
You know that the two chips they won was all fourth quarter Wade right? That and a Ray Allen 3.
[QUOTE=3ball]they just got another all-star caliber talent in JR Smith, who has only ever needed to be motivated to play up to his talent level... he'll be motivated in lebron-ville.
then they just got mosgov, who's always been a valued gem of a big man - shot-blocker, banger and finisher around the rim - exactly what the cavs were missing.
the cavs already had the league's best top talent - they're the only team in the league with 3 dream-teamers and/or all-stars.
and now, with these additions, they have the best supporting talent in the league...
does anyone in the league have a better top 3, or better supporting talent after the top 3?
[B]they will breeze through the all-time weak East, and face an inexperienced team in the Finals (HOU OR GS), who will shudder in the bright lights and lose to the cavs... that pretty much covers it... :[/B]([/QUOTE]
Lebron yesterday practiced his 3 point shoot during the game... we are talking about the ECF, all-time weak? for sure. And the WCF is hou vs gs.
3ball once again proving he is one of the few here that actually like and understand the game.
[QUOTE=3ball]they just got another all-star caliber talent in JR Smith, who has only ever needed to be motivated to play up to his talent level... he'll be motivated in lebron-ville.
then they just got mosgov, who's always been a valued gem of a big man - shot-blocker, banger and finisher around the rim - exactly what the cavs were missing.
the cavs already had the league's best top talent - they're the only team in the league with 3 dream-teamers and/or all-stars.
and now, with these additions, they have the best supporting talent in the league...
does anyone in the league have a better top 3, or better supporting talent after the top 3?
[B]they will breeze through the all-time weak East, and face an inexperienced team in the Finals (HOU OR GS)[/B], who will shudder in the bright lights and lose to the cavs... that pretty much covers it... :([/QUOTE]
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
How the hell did 3ball, of all people, on this forum, make a perfect prediction. You can't really get more spot on than that.
3ball deserves props for his original post. One of the best prediction threads in ISH history. :applause:
[QUOTE=francesco totti]After they were 19 - 20 the trades, and getting lebron back healthy..
Cavs are 34 - 9 in regular season, 12 - 2 in playoffs...and 14 - 1 against the west.
And between playoffs and regular season, they only lost two game at home.
And 2 losses coming out of those 9 , there was no Lebron.[/QUOTE]
holy fk. :eek:
i didn't know they were that good.
[QUOTE=Foster5k]:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
How the hell did 3ball, of all people, on this forum, make a perfect prediction. You can't really get more spot on than that.
3ball deserves props for his original post. One of the best prediction threads in ISH history. :applause:[/QUOTE]
It wasn't that big of a jump. The playoffs have been shit. The only thing he is wrong about is that GSW is inexperienced, but they are ****ing good.
Cavs can win the ring, for sure. I kept thinking the Cavs would lose... more injuries, more bad games by Bron, but no. haha. The other team was always worse. I don't think that will happen with GSW. Cavs will have to play pretty well for 4/7 games, and that's if the GSW play average. If they play well, it's gonna be hard.
It can happen. I'd have said 25% (and I think I did) before... but I'd say it's more like 33% now that the Cavs win. Subtle shifts. It was definitely influenced by the Cavs sweeping and the GSW losing g4. Still, GSW is gonna beat them I think, unless GSW folds like bitches under the pressure.
-Smak
OP might be Nostradamus reincarnated.
[QUOTE=Foster5k]:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
How the hell did 3ball, of all people, on this forum, make a perfect prediction. You can't really get more spot on than that.
3ball deserves props for his original post. One of the best prediction threads in ISH history. :applause:[/QUOTE]
Giving yourself dap on an alt doesn't mean much. Just saying guy.
Bump.