Re: Has Kobe ever beaten a team with 4 All-Stars before??
[QUOTE=Ne 1]The easy narrative of the Lakers losing that series that people like to latch onto (particularly Kobe detractors) is that Kobe was gunning for Finals MVP because he was tired of being viewed as Shaq's second fiddle and then after that he forced Shaq out of L.A., but that's pretty far from the actual truth on both accounts. It's not a coincidence that the biggest blow-out for Detroit that series came in the game where Bryant only took 13 shots. They literally had nobody who could create anything on the perimeter and nobody who could shoot. At times they were running a lineup of Kobe, Kareem Rush, Slava Medvedenko, Devean George, and Derek Fisher. With Malone, Grant, and Rick Fox injured, they no longer had Robert Horry, and as I already pointed out Payton was totally ineffective, this may be a worse team top to bottom than Kobe's 2006 squad outside of Shaq. But its more fun to imagine Kobe dribbling down the court with devil horns sticking out of his head, cackling like a mad scientist as he jacks up 30 foot fade-aways over 5 defenders while Shaq is under the rim wide open, on both knees, hands clasped together begging for the ball. We actually tried to force-feed Shaq plenty. It was almost as good for a turnover as it was a field goal. The game Kobe had the least shot attempts, 13, Shaq still only shot 14 times. If Bryant's chucking was the only thing preventing Shaq from getting the rock and putting it in the hole, you'd think he'd have shot 25+ times with Kobe easing up, but that's not how basketball works.
It is how good the Pistons defense was though. "You want to get the ball inside? Good luck." They weren't holding teams to <80ppg because they didn't know how to handle post players. Actually getting the basketball in the paint was a bitch, be you perimeter player or bigman.
The guards outside of Kobe shot 30% for the series. The small forwards (Walton and George) shot 40%. The team as a whole shot 33% outside of Shaq. Nobody was making shots from the perimeter when Kobe fed them, and the Pistons made it difficult to feed Shaq inside the way they would have liked to. Kobe is Kobe, and he thinks he can make anything no matter what.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Has Kobe ever beaten a team with 4 All-Stars before??
[QUOTE=Lamar Odumbb]Making the East all star team is like going grocery shopping at the 99 cent store and picking the least rotten banana or apple out of the bin.[/QUOTE]
Basically. While the west was figuring out how to squeeze in players into their all star game the east was running out of players to fill roster spots.
Re: Has Kobe ever beaten a team with 4 All-Stars before??
[QUOTE=dubeta]Sorry they only had 3
[B]Only time Celtics had 4 All-Stars was in 2011, ironically LeBron beat them that year as well[/B]
[B]Once Cavs beat the Hawks, amount of 4 All-Stars superteams beaten
LeBron - 2
Kobe- 0[/B][/QUOTE]
Ok
2 for 6
That was easy....
And kobes beatin 24 teams with 50+ wins... lebrons beatin 6
So i dunno what people are trying to say. That lebron faced better competition?
And...... /thread
Re: Has Kobe ever beaten a team with 4 All-Stars before??
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]Ok
2 for 6
That was easy....
And kobes beatin 24 teams with 50+ wins... lebrons beatin 6
So i dunno what people are trying to say. That lebron faced better competition?
And...... /thread[/QUOTE]
Alright
50 wins beaten
Kobe without Shaq/Gasol - 0
LeBron without Wade/Bosh - 2
mad?? :lol
Re: Has Kobe ever beaten a team with 4 All-Stars before??
[QUOTE=dubeta]Sorry they only had 3
[B]Only time Celtics had 4 All-Stars was in 2011, ironically LeBron beat them that year as well[/B][/QUOTE]
I guess MJ won a title with no other all-stars in '98 :bowdown:
Re: Has Kobe ever beaten a team with 4 All-Stars before??
[QUOTE=dubeta]Alright
50 wins beaten
Kobe without Shaq/Gasol - 0
LeBron without Wade/Bosh - 2
mad?? :lol[/QUOTE]
So you take away 2 entirely different teams that take up his entire career asside from a few rebuilding years with kwame and smush. But you only take away one team lebron had.
Sounds fair...