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Re: Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader
[QUOTE=FKAri]
Team concept goes out the window when you lose 2 out of your top 3 players on an already top heavy team. [B]Why are you cherry picking evidence?[/B]
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Horseshit - a team should still play like a team when they lose their top guys - they shouldn't just clearout everytime for the best player like it's AAU.. This is what the Cavs did and this is why I can't respect Lebron's stats (although thee 39% already prevented any respect level)
Btw, I'm cherry-picking Lebron's 39%?
Again, do you think the Cavs still lose if Lebron shoots 45%+, or are you saying MJ couldn't have shot 45%?
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[QUOTE=FKAri]
But the outcome of the game wouldn't change much.
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Are you that stupid that you think 39% is the best anyone could've done?
GTFO... That's why I said you were a dumbass earlier.
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[QUOTE=3ball]Horseshit - a team should still play like a team when they lose their top guys - they shouldn't just clearout everytime for the best player like it's AAU.. This is what the Cavs did and this is why I can't respect Lebron's stats (although thee 39% already prevented any respect level)
Btw, I'm cherry-picking Lebron's 39%?
Again, do you think the Cavs still lose if Lebron shoots 45%+, or are you saying MJ couldn't have shot 45%?[/QUOTE]
If MJ starts shooting 45 he'll draw more defensive attention. This will bring his % down. When it goes down enough he will be forced to pass to the open man or pass it out. Who is he passing to? Who else will score? If MJ averages 40ppg (big IF vs the Warriors great perimeter D) over the series that means the rest of the team still has to make up 60 points.
How till this happen?
Three things can happen. A: MJ's gonna playmake. Ok now you're asking him to do even more. You're asking him to score AND playmake. And not just natural, kick it out to the open guy for an easy 2. [B]Because in today's zone defense you can get doubled without there being a pass that will lead directly to a basket.[/B] You're basically asking him to run sets. You're asking him to play PG.
B: He kicks it out for a reset. Now you're asking someone else to playmake. Who's doing that on that roster?
C:MJ swings the ball. If you have a team of great role players they will be able to make the correct pass immediately to the weakside and get it to a finisher or shooter. Who's doing that on the Cavs? And who are the great finishers?
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[QUOTE=FKAri]
[B]If MJ starts shooting 45%, he'll draw more defensive attention[/B].....
[B](But) Who is he passing to? Who else will score? And who are the great finishers?
[/B]
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You're being contradictory - on one hand, you concede that Jordan would get double-teamed and attract more defensive attention than Lebron... But then you say it makes no difference because the Cavs don't have anyone that can finish... You can't have it both ways - if MJ gets doubled, teammates will get better looks than what they got with Lebron.
[I]Btw, it's interesting - in 2014 Finals, the Spurs didn't double Lebron because he only shot 17 times per game... In the 2015 Finals, Lebron doubled this volume to 33 fga, but he still didn't get doubled because he shot so poorly at the higher volume.[/I]
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Re: Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader
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Re: Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader
[QUOTE=FKari]
[B]If MJ starts shooting 45 he'll draw more defensive attention.[/B] This will bring his % down. When it goes down enough he will be forced to pass to the open man or pass it out. But Who is he passing to? Who else will score on the Cavs?
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If Lebron shot 45%, the Cavs would've won easily - Jordan would be no different.
But at 39%, it benefited the Warriors every time Lebron shot and made no sense to double-team him.
[I]So obviously, if MJ shoots 45% and starts getting doubled - that's better than what Lebron did.. That's what Lebron was TRYING TO DO - he was trying to shoot 45%, since that would've yielded better results obviously..
[/I]
Unfortunately, I have to explain these basics to you, because your bias has made you irrational... "[I]B-b-b-but if MJ shoots 45%, then he'll get doubled and have to pass[/I]"... wtf???... Again, Lebron was TRYING to shoot 45%, but he couldn't - so if MJ shot actually DID shoot 45%, that would be better than what Lebron did.. The Cavs win if MJ shoots 45%, just like they would've won if Lebron had shot 45%.
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[QUOTE=3ball]If Lebron shot 45%, the Cavs would've won easily - Jordan would be no different.
But at 39%, it benefited the Warriors every time Lebron shot and made no sense to double-team him.
[/QUOTE]
Hey imbecile, did you even check Cavs production without LeBron on the floor in those finals ? :facepalm
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Re: Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader
Are You Telling Me That Lebron Handled The Ball With His Go To Offensive Player Being Mathew Friggin Delledova
Shocking
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[QUOTE=Sakkreth]
Hey imbecile, did you even check Cavs production without LeBron on the floor in those finals ?
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What does your post ^^^^ have to do with the reality that the Cavs would've won easily of Lebron shot better than his abysmal 39%??
Or that Lebron needed 50% more time of possession than anyone got all year to achieve his stats?
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[QUOTE=DavisIsMyUniBro]
[B]Are You Telling Me[/B] That Lebron Handled The Ball With His Go To Offensive Player Being Mathew Friggin Delledova
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No, I'm telling you the Cavs would've won easily if Lebron shot better than 39% - that's obvious.
And I'm also telling you that Lebron needed 50% more time of possession than anyone got all year to achieve his stats - this is utterly amazing and completely invalidates his stats (although running stat-padding clearouts every possession was never a respectable way to accumulate stats anyway).
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Whole thread premise is incredibly stupid. You're arguing what? That time of possession is more critical to stats than actual number of possessions? Cause its definitely possible to score multiple times in a possession if you just hold the ball longer....:rolleyes: So if for whatever reason lebron has the same series but only holds the ball 45% of the time it's somehow more impressive? Clown shoes goin clown shoes.
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[QUOTE=3ball]Horseshit - a team should still play like a team when they lose their top guys - they shouldn't just clearout everytime for the best player like it's AAU.. This is what the Cavs did and this is why I can't respect Lebron's stats (although thee 39% already prevented any respect level)
Btw, I'm cherry-picking Lebron's 39%?
[B]Again, do you think the Cavs still lose if Lebron shoots 45%+, or are you saying MJ couldn't have shot 45%[/B]?[/QUOTE]
Do the Cavs still lose if J.R Smith shoots 37% instead of 31%? (3P% 29)
Dellavedova shoots 34% instead of 28%? (3P% 28)
Shumpert 31% instead of 25%? (3P% 32)
What was MJ's shooting % in his 5th consecutive Finals appearance?
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[QUOTE=3ball]No, I'm telling you the Cavs would've won easily if Lebron shot better than 39% - that's obvious.
[B]And I'm also telling you that Lebron needed 50% more time of possession than anyone got all year to achieve his stats[/B] - this is utterly amazing and completely invalidates his stats (although running stat-padding clearouts every possession was never a respectable way to accumulate stats anyway).[/QUOTE]
Which players last season faced GS and their number 1 defense (6 straight games) w/o their 2nd and 3rd best players?
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[QUOTE=sdot_thadon]
You're arguing what? That time of possession is more critical to stats than actual number of possessions? Cause its definitely possible to score multiple times in a possession if you just hold the ball longer....
[/QUOTE]
It's easier to score when you have more time to decide what to do and can wait for the right spot.
In Lebron's case, he had 50% more time of possession than anyone had all year - his 12.0 minutes per game was 50% higher than the regular season league-leader, John Wall's 8.2 minutes..
Such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..
Keep it real bro - 50% higher time of possession is insane and very likely the record, BY A MILE
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Which players last season faced GS and their number 1 defense (6 straight games) w/o their 2nd and 3rd best players?[/QUOTE]
Do you realize that Lebron had 50% more time of possession than the regular season leader?... Do you know how RIDICULOUS that is?... Tbh, it should've been a media story, but the media isn't that smart.
MJ took the same number of shots on MANY playoff runs, yet he never held the ball forever or played with a point-guard-level time of possession like Lebron.
MJ was far more skilled, so he didn't need so much time with the ball to score.
But for Lebron - such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..
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Re: Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader
3ball is rustlin some jimmies in this thread :roll:
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[QUOTE=3ball][B]Do you realize that Lebron had 50% more time of possession than the regular season leader?... Do you know how RIDICULOUS that is?[/B]... Tbh, it should've been a media story, but the media isn't that smart.
MJ took the same number of shots on MANY playoff runs, yet he never held the ball forever or played with a point-guard-level time of possession like Lebron.
MJ was far more skilled, so he didn't need so much time with the ball to score.
But for Lebron - such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..[/QUOTE]
LOL @ comparing someones RS numbers to another players Finals numbers cause we all know those RS situations are always the same and comparable.
:hammerhead: DUMB
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[QUOTE=3ball][B]It's easier to score when you have more time to decide what to do and can wait for the right spot.[/B]
In Lebron's case, he had 50% more time of possession than anyone had all year - his 12.0 minutes per game was 50% higher than the regular season league-leader, John Wall's 8.2 minutes..
Such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..
Keep it real bro - 50% higher time of possession is insane and very likely the record, BY A MILE
.[/QUOTE]
Then why is the fastbreak so cherished? Are you insinuating that the 80's Lakers teams etc... would have been better off slowing down the pace so they could have more time to decide how to get the best shot?
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Do the Cavs still lose if J.R Smith shoots 37% instead of 31%? (3P% 29)
Dellavedova shoots 34% instead of 28%? (3P% 28)
Shumpert 31% instead of 25%? (3P% 32)
What was MJ's shooting % in his 5th consecutive Finals appearance?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]LOL @ comparing someones RS numbers to another players Finals numbers cause we all know those RS situations are always the same and comparable.
:hammerhead: DUMB[/QUOTE]
Lebron's 12.0 minutes of possession time was 20% higher than the playoff leader (John Wall's 10.1 minutes) and 50% higher than the regular season leader (John Wall's 8.3 minutes).. Again, that's ****ing amazing.
You're aware that teams don't win championships that way right?... Teams don't win rings with 1 player having 12 minutes of possession time, or 50% more time than the league leader.. So Lebron was in complete stat-padding mode with the entire game set up for him to accumulate stats, yet he still only shot 39%.
Such a massive time of possession invalidates his stats... Of course, the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats.
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[QUOTE=3ball]Lebron's 12.0 minutes of possession time was 20% higher than the playoff leader (John Wall's 10.1 minutes) and 50% higher than the regular season leader (John Wall's 8.3 minutes).. Again, that's ****ing amazing.
[B]You're aware that teams don't win championships that way right?[/B]... Teams don't win rings with 1 player having 12 minutes of possession time, or 50% more time than the league leader.. So Lebron was in complete stat-padding mode with the entire game set up for him to accumulate stats, yet he still only shot 39%.
Such a massive time of possession invalidates his stats... Of course, the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats.[/QUOTE]
You're aware that Kyrie missed the last 5 games and Love missed the entire series, right?
You're aware that LeBron's possession time wouldn't have been that high if those 2 play the entire series, right?
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]
What was MJ's shooting % in his 5th consecutive Finals appearance?
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[B]Who cares... Lebron shot even worse in his 1st Finals - he shot 35.6% in 2007, so fatigue has nothing to do with it.
Btw, do you realize that in the 2015 Finals, Lebron was double-teamed a total of 18 times, while MJ was doubled that much in a single HALF of 1 game in the 1993 Finals??... Yet MJ shot 51% to Lebron's 39%... And unlike Lebron, MJ never got the AAU-style, secluded clearouts over and over - he had to achieve his stats within a strict, professional offense.[/B]
[I]But don't be surprised - MJ is the greatest high volume shooter of all time.. When you compare his [COLOR="DarkRed"][COLOR="yellowgreen"]PER 100 STATS[/COLOR][/COLOR] to other wings (playoffs stats shown below), it's clear that he did exactly what the other wings did, but just MORE OF IT.. His efficiency was the same as other wings, but he simply produced far more at that efficiency:
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[SIZE="1"]JORDAN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.3 pts.. 2.2 oreb.. 6.1 dreb.. 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 2.7 stl.. 1.1 blk.. [COLOR="green"]32.5 fga.. 118 ORtg.. 56.8 ts[/COLOR]
LEBRON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.5 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 9.3 dreb.. 8.6 ast.. 4.5 tov.. 2.2 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 26.8 fga.. 114 ORtg.. 56.5 ts
DURANT:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.8 pts.. 1.2 oreb.. 9.1 dreb.. 4.8 ast.. 4.1 tov.. 1.4 stl.. 1.5 blk.. 25.8 fga.. 114 ORtg.. 58.3 ts
KOBE:[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR] 34.7 pts.. 1.4 oreb.. 5.5 dreb.. 6.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 1.9 stl.. 0.9 blk.. 27.7 fga.. 110 ORtg.. 54.1 ts
WADE:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 32.2 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 5.4 dreb.. 7.1 ast.. 4.8 tov.. 2.3 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 24.5 fga.. 108 ORtg.. 55.4 ts[/size]
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3Balls getting wrecked again :lol
Although I have to admit it's admirable how he is so FOS that he doesn't realize he's getting destroyed on every post he makes :confusedshrug:
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Who cares????
You're ripping LeBron for his shooting % in his 5th consecutive Finals appearance, yet the fat head on your bedroom ceiling wasn't able to make it 5 consecutive. Hell, he quit the league twice w/o even trying to make it 4 straight.
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Do the Cavs still lose if J.R Smith shoots 37% instead of 31%? (3P% 29)
Dellavedova shoots 34% instead of 28%? (3P% 28)
Shumpert 31% instead of 25%? (3P% 32)[/QUOTE]
[SIZE="5"][B]STILL WAITING[/B][/SIZE]
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[QUOTE=3ball][B]Who cares... Lebron shot even worse in his 1st Finals - he shot 35.6% in 2007, so fatigue has nothing to do with it.
Btw, do you realize that in the 2015 Finals, Lebron was double-teamed a total of 18 times, while MJ was doubled that much in a single HALF of 1 game in the 1993 Finals??... Yet MJ shot 51% to Lebron's 39%... And unlike Lebron, MJ never got the AAU-style, secluded clearouts over and over - he had to achieve his stats within a strict, professional offense.[/B]
[I]But don't be surprised - MJ is the greatest high volume shooter of all time.. When you compare his [COLOR="DarkRed"][COLOR="yellowgreen"]PER 100 STATS[/COLOR][/COLOR] to other wings (playoffs stats shown below), it's clear that he did exactly what the other wings did, but just MORE OF IT.. His efficiency was the same as other wings, but he simply produced far more at that efficiency:
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[SIZE="1"]JORDAN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.3 pts.. 2.2 oreb.. 6.1 dreb.. 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 2.7 stl.. 1.1 blk.. [COLOR="green"]32.5 fga.. 118 ORtg.. 56.8 ts[/COLOR]
LEBRON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.5 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 9.3 dreb.. 8.6 ast.. 4.5 tov.. 2.2 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 26.8 fga.. 114 ORtg.. 56.5 ts
DURANT:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.8 pts.. 1.2 oreb.. 9.1 dreb.. 4.8 ast.. 4.1 tov.. 1.4 stl.. 1.5 blk.. 25.8 fga.. 114 ORtg.. 58.3 ts
KOBE:[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR] 34.7 pts.. 1.4 oreb.. 5.5 dreb.. 6.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 1.9 stl.. 0.9 blk.. 27.7 fga.. 110 ORtg.. 54.1 ts
WADE:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 32.2 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 5.4 dreb.. 7.1 ast.. 4.8 tov.. 2.3 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 24.5 fga.. 108 ORtg.. 55.4 ts[/size][/QUOTE]
lol you suck donkey dick.:roll:
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I went to bed last night cuz he wasn't responding. Didn't know this thread kept going :oldlol:
If you refute him on one point he will simply pull something else out of the bag. A traveling salesman with a cases of snake oil. Eventually you just gotta shut the door.
[QUOTE=3ball][B]It's easier to score when you have more time to decide what to do and can wait for the right spot.[/B]
In Lebron's case, he had 50% more time of possession than anyone had all year - his 12.0 minutes per game was 50% higher than the regular season league-leader, John Wall's 8.2 minutes..
Such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..
Keep it real bro - 50% higher time of possession is insane and very likely the record, BY A MILE
.[/QUOTE]
[B][COLOR="Green"]No it's not[/COLOR].[COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="5"] Point blank[/SIZE][/COLOR].[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="7"] This post is garbage[/SIZE][/COLOR].[/B]
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[QUOTE=FKAri]
[SIZE="3"] This post is garbage[/SIZE]
[/QUOTE]
That's why I win all my threads - you guys don't refute shit - you just say "that's garbage" in big caps, which means you meltdown and I win.
Anytime you guys try to actually refute my points, you get shut down:
see a few posts up where I murdered Hey Yo - this fool tried to say Lebron's 5 straight Finals made him shoot bad, when he shot worse in his first Finals than any other Finals!!!!... Wreeeeecked
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[QUOTE=3ball]That's why I win all my threads - you guys don't refute shit - you just say "that's garbage" in big caps, which means you meltdown and I win.
[B]Anytime you guys try to actually refute my points, you get shut down:
see a few posts up where I murdered Hey Yo - this fool tried to say Lebron's 5 straight Finals made him shoot bad, when he shot worse in his first Finals than any other Finals!!!!... Wreeeeecked[/B]
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:lol Any time you have to bring up you "wrecking somebody", in reality it's you got wrecked, but you are too FOS to realize it.
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]
[B]Do the Cavs still lose if [/B]
J.R Smith shoots 37% instead of 31%? (3P% 29)
Dellavedova shoots 34% instead of 28%? (3P% 28)
Shumpert 31% instead of 25%? (3P% 32)
[/QUOTE]
Not sure, but they definitely win if the team's best player (Lebron) shoots better than 39%.
And you're forgetting that Lebron shot worse than his teammates in the 2015 Finals!!!!!.. He shot 43.2% eFG, while his teammates shot 43.3% eFG
Again, if Lebron shoots better, the Cavs WIN - you can't get past this fact... Ultimately, Lebron's stats are invalidated by his 39% shooting, stat-padding clearout style, and ridiculous time of possession (50% higher than the regular season leader).
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[QUOTE=3ball]
The Cavs definitely win if the team's best player (Lebron) shoots better than 39%.
And you're forgetting that Lebron shot worse than his teammates in the 2015 Finals!!!!!.. He shot 43.2% eFG, while his teammates shot 43.3% eFG
Again, if Lebron shoots better, the Cavs WIN - you can't get past this fact... Ultimately, Lebron's stats are invalidated by his 39% shooting, stat-padding clearout style, and ridiculous time of possession (50% higher than the regular season leader).
[/QUOTE]
This 2nd destruction of Hey Yo (shown above) is basically the thread cliffs.. /thread
[IMG]http://bennorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/mic-drop-kanye-west.gif[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Do the Cavs still lose if J.R Smith shoots 37% instead of 31%? (3P% 29)
Dellavedova shoots 34% instead of 28%? (3P% 28)
Shumpert 31% instead of 25%? (3P% 32)[/QUOTE]
[SIZE="5"][B]STILL WAITING[/B][/SIZE]
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[QUOTE=3ball]you guys don't refute shit.[/QUOTE]
Because what you posted was an opinion. And that opinion is the basis of your argument...ya..get wrecked.
[QUOTE=3ball]Not sure, but they definitely win if the team's best player (Lebron) shoots better than 39%.
And you're forgetting that Lebron shot worse than his teammates in the 2015 Finals!!!!!.. [B]He shot 43.2% eFG, while his teammates shot 43.3% eFG[/B]
Again, if Lebron shoots better, the Cavs WIN - you can't get past this fact... Ultimately, Lebron's stats are invalidated by his 39% shooting, stat-padding clearout style, and ridiculous time of possession (50% higher than the regular season leader).[/QUOTE]
So Lebron managed to actually perfectly balance when to score himself and when to pass? That's incredible. I actually didn't feel that when I was watching the series but thanks for enlightening me. [B]How did the team shoot with him off the floor?[/B]
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo][SIZE="3"][B]STILL WAITING[/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
The Cavs definitely win if the team's best player (Lebron) shoots better than 39%.
Unfortunately, Lebron shot worse than his teammates in the 2015 Finals.. He shot 43.2% eFG, while his teammates shot 43.3% eFG
Again, if Lebron shoots better, the Cavs WIN - you can't get past this fact... Ultimately, Lebron's stats are invalidated by his 39% shooting, stat-padding clearout style, and ridiculous time of possession (50% higher than the regular season leader).
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It is easier to score when you take more time from the shot clock...
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[QUOTE=3ball][B]Not sure,[/B] but they definitely win if the team's best player (Lebron) shoots better than 39%.
And you're forgetting that Lebron shot worse than his teammates in the 2015 Finals!!!!!.. He shot 43.2% eFG, while his teammates shot 43.3% eFG
Again, if Lebron shoots better, the Cavs WIN - you can't get past this fact... Ultimately, Lebron's stats are invalidated by his 39% shooting, stat-padding clearout style, and ridiculous time of possession (50% higher than the regular season leader).[/QUOTE]
Of course you're "not sure" :oldlol:
J.R, Delly and Shump shot 50-173. But if they would've shot better, not sure if the Cavs would have won.
:rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=FKAri]I went to bed last night cuz he wasn't responding. Didn't know this thread kept going :oldlol:
If you refute him on one point he will simply pull something else out of the bag. A traveling salesman with a cases of snake oil.Eventually you just gotta shut the door.
[B][COLOR="Green"]No it's not[/COLOR].[COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="5"] Point blank[/SIZE][/COLOR].[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="7"] This post is garbage[/SIZE][/COLOR].[/B][/QUOTE]
Of course it's easier to score earlier in the shotclock [b][i]in transition scenarios[/i][/b]. However If you are not in transition and in the half court offense, [i]the longer you hold onto the ball the better chance you have to get a quality offensive look[/i].
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Of course you're "not sure" :oldlol:
J.R, Delly and Shump shot 50-173. But if they would've shot better, not sure if the Cavs would have won.
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
The Cavs definitely win if the team's best player (Lebron) shoots better than 39%.
The statistical reality is that Lebron shot worse than his teammates in the 2015 Finals.. He shot 43.2% eFG, while his teammates shot 43.3% eFG
Again, if Lebron shoots better, the Cavs WIN - you can't get past this fact... Ultimately, Lebron's stats are invalidated by his 39% shooting, stat-padding clearout style, and ridiculous time of possession (50% higher than the regular season leader).
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3ball putting in work.
:applause:
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[QUOTE=warriorfan]Of course it's easier to score earlier in the shotclock [b][i]in transition scenarios[/i][/b]. However If you are not in transition and in the half court offense, [i]the longer you hold onto the ball the better chance you have to get a quality offensive look[/i].[/QUOTE]
Of course and thanks for pointing that out..
I should have told FKari that my post assumes HALF COURT SETS, which are literally 80% of the NBA offense..
The NBA is less than 20% transition/early offense.. This is statistical fact.. So I assumed FKari knew I was talking about half court sets.