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Another article on the Ball vs. Jackson debate.
[url]http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/14/15798954/la-lakers-draft-rumors-lonzo-ball-josh-jackson-nba-reports-news-ucla-kansas-split[/url]
It makes good points. That length and athleticism on D would be awesome with Jackson/Ingram. A Ball/Russell back court could be pretty awesome too. It's definitely a tough decision.
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[QUOTE=bladefd]I think tamaraw makes a very valid point.
One of the biggest offensive issues Lakers have is streaky shooting, no question about it. It makes it very difficult to not only spread the field and to consistently put points on the board but to simply maximize each possession. We don't have any career shooters so we do need to maximize what we do have. I am sure the Lakers [U][B]could afford a solid shooting assistant coach[/B][/U] to work with some of the guys, perhaps change some of their shooting styles slightly. I wouldn't mind it tbh.[/QUOTE]
I am actually struggling at the thought on why they can't even attempt to lure a guy like Chip Engelland join them. If there are contractual issues, they should be able to afford to buy that contract out. If not, find the next available one, Miami found one.
I find it a bit odd why there were concerns about Josh Jackson's ability to shoot when he shot a decent 38% from the 3pt(better than most prospects) area but I guess scouts have learn from that myopic thinking of just solely basing one's prowess from that area alone.
Here's a link to that concern.
[QUOTE]On the other end, Jackson
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I don't see any chance of the Lakers drafting Jackson now. Paul George officially said he won't resign with the Pacers and prefers to be on the Lakers. I would imagine that kind of forces the Lakers hand to draft Ball. You can't have Ingram, Jackson, and George on the same team. Plus with the slight chance you could add Lebron all of them can't play together. It's definitely Lonzo Ball now. Ball, Russell, George, Ingram, Zubac is a pretty nice starting lineup.
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[QUOTE=dd24]I don't see any chance of the Lakers drafting Jackson now. Paul George officially said he won't resign with the Pacers and prefers to be on the Lakers. I would imagine that kind of forces the Lakers hand to draft Ball. You can't have Ingram, Jackson, and George on the same team. Plus with the slight chance you could add Lebron all of them can't play together. It's definitely Lonzo Ball now. Ball, Russell, George, Ingram, Zubac is a pretty nice starting lineup.[/QUOTE]
:cheers: :cheers:
I prefer Ball's game too tbh as long as he is in good shape.
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Lonzo Ball and Jordan Bell.
Randle, Nance Jr, and Bell could be something special in today's NBA. Combine them with Lonzo Ball, Ingram, and PG13 and we're gonna be offering a look the league has never seen.
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Is Fultz an explosive version of BI?
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[QUOTE=$LakerGold]Is Fultz an explosive version of BI?[/QUOTE]
I strongly think he's a stronger/more athletic version of Russell. Watch them both in YouTube, they're very similar
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Big surprise.... it was Lonzo.
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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC9pGWTWsAE1igz.jpg:large[/IMG]
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i hope he can ditch the bs from his dad and play a good game.
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Utah will trade Nos. 30 and 42 to Lakers for No. 28, securing Tony Bradley,
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Here's a pretty good article on Josh Hart:
[url]https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/22/15858696/nba-draft-la-lakers-picks-josh-hart-villanova-trade-news-30[/url]
Interesting pick for the end of the 1st round. The Lakers need shooting and he can hit 3s. Hopefully he can turn into a solid role player. I don't know much about Kyle Kuzma.
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[QUOTE=dd24]Here's a pretty good article on Josh Hart:
[url]https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/22/15858696/nba-draft-la-lakers-picks-josh-hart-villanova-trade-news-30[/url]
Interesting pick for the end of the 1st round. The Lakers need shooting and he can hit 3s. Hopefully he can turn into a solid role player. I don't know much about Kyle Kuzma.[/QUOTE]
Yes thanks for the link, I also checked draftexpress video link and what I pay attention now is the distance where players take their 3 pt shots from. He seemed to nail a couple of those shots from pro distance. His defense looks promising , yes im hopeful that he can finally be the legit 3&D guy they badly need.
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I actually watched Kuzma quite a bit, I don't like that pick.
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How come Josh Hart fell all the way to 30 in the draft? Was it just due to his age or what? 22 isn't really old tbh.. If he was defensive player of the year in Big East and player of the year, that speaks volumes of his talent and work ethic.. :confusedshrug:
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[QUOTE=bladefd]How come Josh Hart fell all the way to 30 in the draft? Was it just due to his age or what? 22 isn't really old tbh.. If he was defensive player of the year in Big East and player of the year, that speaks volumes of his talent and work ethic.. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Im guessing age bec GMs are focusing so much on high ceilings that is why Brogdon was picked very late too last year IMO. Most of them feel these older players will not develop anymore, heck I was a big fan of Brook Lopez from his Stanford days but bec he stayed 2 years like Wade, that 9 teams passed on them, Jimmy Butler was treated worst
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I agree. Everyone loves that word potential. I think some of those 4 year guys are definitely worth it though. Just like I've always said there's some guys in the G league that deserve a chance too.
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[QUOTE=dd24]I agree. Everyone loves that word potential. I think some of those 4 year guys are definitely worth it though. Just like I've always said there's some guys in the G league that deserve a chance too.[/QUOTE]
I just remembered what G-League is. :oldlol: Damn, Gatorade with that EF YOU MONEY. I love that they picked Josh Hart, solely because of his accolades, disregard of what he could be in 5 years -- I love how they're picking these players.
I was listening to Bill Simmons Pod, and he was saying about how HS players should be able to enter the draft, but if not, you have to atleast stay 2 yrs. in college before being eligible. Yey or nay?
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[QUOTE=tamaraw08]Yes thanks for the link, I also checked draftexpress video link and what I pay attention now is the distance where players take their 3 pt shots from. He seemed to nail a couple of those shots from pro distance. His defense looks promising , yes im hopeful that he can finally be the legit 3&D guy they badly need.[/QUOTE]
Can Josh Hart be an OKC-Harden? Not in terms of play style but his level of play/floor impact. Maybe to a lesser extent, but not by much?
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[QUOTE=$LakerGold]I just remembered what G-League is. :oldlol: Damn, Gatorade with that EF YOU MONEY. I love that they picked Josh Hart, solely because of his accolades, disregard of what he could be in 5 years -- I love how they're picking these players.
I was listening to Bill Simmons Pod, and he was saying about how HS players should be able to enter the draft, but if not, you have to atleast stay 2 yrs. in college before being eligible. Yey or nay?[/QUOTE]
Adam Silver is on record saying they are going to rethink the age limit. My guess is they will let high schoolers go to the G League and then enter the draft after a season rather than being a 1 and done.
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[QUOTE=$LakerGold]Can Josh Hart be an OKC-Harden? Not in terms of play style but his level of play/floor impact. Maybe to a lesser extent, but not by much?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure he fits that role. For a player to have that "floor impact", he needs to be crafty and be creative like you said about Harden back in his OKC days IMO.
Re: Hart, I would be ecstatic if he can be like a Danny Green who can really hit 3's and at the same time be a very good defender.
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Houston also trying hard to get PG.. Houston, Celtics, Cavs, Lakers all trying hard to get PG.
Celtics have the most to offer in future first round draft picks, but it is contingent upon Hayward signing with Celtics first. Houston has Ariza, Capela and future 1st round picks to offer. Cavs don't have enough assets unless if they include Love or bring in 3rd team - they would still need to trade Love to make salaries work. We will not be so lucky to sign PG outright as a FA next summer. Pacers are not dumb enough to just let him walk.
Lakers have Clarkson, Randle, Brewer's expiring deal, Nance, Zubac, future 1st rounders. Pacers could use Brewer's expiring deal and couple future 1st rounders. They don't need Nance, Zubac, Clarkson, or Randle..
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PG is still saying he wants to go to LA though. He's talking about teaming up with someone this season but those guys think it's a 1 season rental if he gets traded to a place like that. All Lakers fans can do is cross their fingers.
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[QUOTE=dd24]PG is still saying he wants to go to LA though. He's talking about teaming up with someone this season but those guys think it's a 1 season rental if he gets traded to a place like that. All Lakers fans can do is cross their fingers.[/QUOTE]
If he ends up on a team with deep playoff run squad potential, he may sign extension. From what the news sources say, the Celtics/Pacers deal is contingent on Hayward signing with Boston first. Celtics has so many draft picks that we can't even compete for PG on an open trade market. Not unless if we bring Ingram or Ball to the table, which obviously cannot be done under any circumstances.
If Celtics pull that trade off after signing Hayward, we will just have to look elsewhere for our next big star. No way PG leaves that for a rebuilding team out West.