Re: What can society do to help Young men
[QUOTE=Nanners]Well said. The average millenial enters the workforce already holding tens of thousands of dollars in debt, and these kids earn ~25% less than their uneducated parents did at the same age.
The best way to help young men is to take steps to address income inequality... something like partial student debt amnesty or a newdeal-esque infrastructure jobs program would probably be a good places to start.[/QUOTE]
How many young men of past generations were ever stepping into great jobs and super rich at 18-23? Of course there's going to be income inequality when you have **** all job experience, zero years to grow your personal savings and no skills.
"Income inequality" is a terrible measurement for this stuff.
And do you really think lots of young men even want to do newdeal-esque type infrastructure projects? Work that requires hard labor? Plus, technology has advanced ten fold since then and less individuals are needed. Waste of time.
The issue is accumulating that debt in the first place? Why did we foster a culture where a college degree was necessary (and still doing it)? Why did we encourage kids to get expensive degrees that don't pay off? Partial student debt amnesty does nothing to address lack of personal responsbility and accountability.
I reckon there's tons of jobs out there for millenials - they likely don't want to do them because they think it's beneath them or don't want to move and make the necessary sacrifices to do so.
Re: What can society do to help Young men
[QUOTE=Hawker]How many young men of past generations were ever stepping into great jobs and super rich at 18-23? Of course there's going to be income inequality when you have **** all job experience, zero years to grow your personal savings and no skills. [/quote]
Who said anything about past generations being "super rich"? Are you capable of discussing my actual post or do you just want to argue against your own straw men?
In the 50s and 60s a man with no education could support an entire family with one factory job. in 2019 a man with no education can barely even support himself, much less an entire family.
[quote]"Income inequality" is a terrible measurement for this stuff.[/quote]
why? because you say so? lol
[quote]And do you really think lots of young men even want to do newdeal-esque type infrastructure projects? Work that requires hard labor? Plus, technology has advanced ten fold since then and less individuals are needed. Waste of time.[/quote]
Considering that awful companies to work for like walmart and mcdonalds have no problem filling their workforces with young americans, its pretty clear that there are tons of young men are willing to do about anything if it helps pay the bills.
[quote]The issue is accumulating that debt in the first place? Why did we foster a culture where a college degree was necessary (and still doing it)? Why did we encourage kids to get expensive degrees that don't pay off? Partial student debt amnesty does nothing to address lack of personal responsbility and accountability. [/quote]
The title of the thread is "what can society do to help young men". The average millenial has almost $40k in debt... and you cant see why debt amnesty would help young men?
What exactly are you suggesting we do to help young men? It sounds like your only suggestion is that we should tell them to grab their bootstraps and fu[COLOR="Black"]ck[/COLOR] off... which is basically what we have already been doing for decades.
[quote]I reckon there's tons of jobs out there for millenials - they likely don't want to do them because they think it's beneath them or don't want to move and make the necessary sacrifices to do so.[/QUOTE]
I reckon you are a complete fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]king idiot. Like I pointed out earlier, the fact that trash employers like walmart and mcdonalds arent having issues hiring young americans makes its pretty fu[COLOR="black"]c[/COLOR]king obvious that this line of thought is completely bogus.