U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in Afghanistan

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]The problem you guys have is that you never look inwardly at yourselves. Guys like you move from these war torn countries and live the good life in Western societies, yet you continuously blame Western society for attempting to fix the problem that caused you to move here in the first place.

The biggest threat to Muslims and the biggest injustice committed towards Muslims is by......fellow Muslims. Millions of Muslims are violently killed by other Muslims on a yearly basis, yet here you are creating a thread and freaking the hell out about a drone strike that mistakenly killed 30 people. I mean, WTF??


This is why you will always face backlash from the likes of us.[/QUOTE]


I'm in this country because a Orthodox Christian kicked my family out of their house at gun point in the middle of a war. We didn't get the house back until 13 years after the war. The entire city, mind you, was wiped clean of my people. In 1990 (before war), that specific city was 20% muslim, 50% orthodox, 30% catholic. Today it is 95% orthodox.



Tryyyyyy againnnn

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Do you know of an efficient way to search through ISH to find posts? Because I've been going on about this bs since 9er was here back in 2013.


Me, J$, imdaman, red1 and more have always talked about the injustice of Muslims...it's always been the same group to argue against it, the 9ers...pat chewing..tomtucker...welcome to that illustrious group, rufus.


Again dude...idgaf about your lord and savior Trump, I haven't mentioned him once in this thread other than in replies to you. Politely **** off if that's all you wanna talk about.


FYI, I'm on record saying Obama is probably one of the worst presidents due to this very issue, killing civilians and non combatants. It's EXACTLY why I didn't vote for Hillary, either.


You Trump guys are obsessed, I don't wanna talk about him.[/QUOTE]


FYI I have always been against illegal drone strikes, especially in countries like Pakistan, with whom we supposedly aren't in conflict.

I've been on here longer than you. This is the first thread I've ever seen you make on the subject of drones and it's obviously because it looks bad for the [B]current[/B] administration. It's okay to have a bias. Just admit it.

[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]As someone with severe emotional trauma, acceptance and compliments make me extremely uncomfortable and make me cringe and want to destroy something.

Please treat me like shit.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: I will do my best to withhold compliments from here on out.

I just don't like it when people pile up on you and I won't be doing the same.

Emotional trauma is something to be used as a tool to communicate and help others who may not be as far along as you in recovery, if you are able. Not as a weapon to make others miserable.

My 2 cents, and I'll leave you be.

[QUOTE=Loco 50]:oldlol: I will do my best to withhold compliments from here on out.

I just don't like it when people pile up on you and I won't be doing the same.

Emotional trauma is something to be used as a tool to communicate and help others who may not be as far along as you in recovery, if you are able. Not as a weapon to make others miserable.

My 2 cents, and I'll leave you be.[/QUOTE]

From a viewpoint where I'm normal, thank you for not bullying me.

It's really hurtful, from a normal viewpoint, of course.

:cheers:

[QUOTE=Loco 50]
PPS: These strikes are reprehensible, same as they were under Obama. This shit creates terrorists. [B]I'd dedicate the rest of my life towards ending anybody that took out my family as collateral damage, purposely or not.[/B][/QUOTE]


@Patty, you'd do the same.

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]I'm in this country because a Orthodox Christian kicked my family out of their house at gun point in the middle of a war. We didn't get the house back until 13 years after the war. The entire city, mind you, was wiped clean of my people. In 1990 (before war), that specific city was 20% muslim, 50% orthodox, 30% catholic. Today it is 95% orthodox.



Tryyyyyy againnnn[/QUOTE]


Who's the biggest threat to Muslims? Why do Muslims flee Muslim countries?


Answer me that.

[QUOTE=rufuspaul]FYI I have always been against illegal drone strikes, especially in countries like Pakistan, with whom we supposedly aren't in conflict.

I've been on here longer than you. This is the first thread I've ever seen you make on the subject of drones and it's obviously because it looks bad for the [B]current[/B] administration. It's okay to have a bias. Just admit it.[/QUOTE]

And whose fault is it that this is the first thread you've clicked on that I've created??? "Ive been on here longer than you" Want a cookie?


Idk how else to prove to you that I didn't make this thread with Trump or his people in mind, you're the ONLY ONE bringing him up.


Unbelievable. You're playing the victim when nobody is even saying anything about your trump group.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Who's the biggest threat to Muslims? Why do Muslims flee Muslim countries?


Answer me that.[/QUOTE]


Because the boys come over and destroy everything. Then, once it's time to "rebuild <InsertArabCountry>", the contracts are giving to whatever politician at the time owns a construction company in order to fill their pockets with US tax dollars.


Look at Iraq w/Cheney as your goto in order to understand exactly why America is constantly at war in the Middle East. Americas biggest moneymaker is war. By killing civilians over and over again, they are solidifying their market by creating a new generation of "terrorists". Not to say there is no such thing as an evil terrorist, ofc we've seen the Paris bombings, 9/11 etc....but how did that come about. You think it just randomly happened? Or did maybe someone, oh idk, **** up the persons life that decided to go down that evil route?


Understand Patty?

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo] Want a cookie?

[/QUOTE]


Why yes! Thank you. White chocolate Macadamia nut would be especially nice.



[COLOR="White"]Denial is not a river in Egypt my friend[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=rufuspaul]Why yes! Thank you. White chocolate Macadamia nut would be especially nice.



[COLOR="White"]Denial is not a river in Egypt my friend[/COLOR][/QUOTE]


Don't forget to brush your teeth!


[COLOR="White"]Denial is up your ass my compatriot[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Because the boys come over and destroy everything. Then, once it's time to "rebuild <InsertArabCountry>", the contracts are giving to whatever politician at the time owns a construction company in order to fill their pockets with US tax dollars.


Look at Iraq w/Cheney as your goto in order to understand exactly why America is constantly at war in the Middle East. Americas biggest moneymaker is war. By killing civilians over and over again, they are solidifying their market by creating a new generation of "terrorists". Not to say there is no such thing as an evil terrorist, ofc we've seen the Paris bombings, 9/11 etc....but how did that come about. You think it just randomly happened? Or did maybe someone, oh idk, **** up the persons life that decided to go down that evil route?


Understand Patty?[/QUOTE]


So Islam had no history of violence before the bad ole U S of A existed?

[QUOTE=rufuspaul]So Islam had no history of violence before the bad ole U S of A existed?[/QUOTE]


Nothing more than the good ol' jolly Christian history of violence, no. Less actually, far less. It's why we're the religion of peace!



Especially nothing as bad as what happened in WWII.

Oh okay so Christians and Americans are the problem. Got it.

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Because the boys come over and destroy everything. Then, once it's time to "rebuild <InsertArabCountry>", the contracts are giving to whatever politician at the time owns a construction company in order to fill their pockets with US tax dollars.


Look at Iraq w/Cheney as your goto in order to understand exactly why America is constantly at war in the Middle East. Americas biggest moneymaker is war. By killing civilians over and over again, they are solidifying their market by creating a new generation of "terrorists". Not to say there is no such thing as an evil terrorist, ofc we've seen the Paris bombings, 9/11 etc....but how did that come about. You think it just randomly happened? Or did maybe someone, oh idk, **** up the persons life that decided to go down that evil route?


Understand Patty?[/QUOTE]


:facepalm


I'm glad to see that you reaffirm my belief that a vast majority of Muslims downright refuse to look at themselves in the mirror. It's a sin for you guys to criticize each other, much less your teachings.

The evidence and truth is out there that the majority of terror victims are Muslim, but yet here you are on record completely glossing over that fact, and blaming the big bad American government for the problems in the Middle East.

Pathetic.

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Nothing more than the good ol' jolly Christian history of violence, no. Less actually, far less. It's why we're the religion of peace!



Especially nothing as bad as what happened in WWII.[/QUOTE]



:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

They've come a long way with the accuracy of the drones they use but they still have to be more careful. 30 people is way too high it's not like they accidentally killed a family member of a known militant. We would never hear the end of it if the roles were reversed deservedly so, an afghan killing 30 innocent Americans.


I'm not gonna lie these drones do a lot of good for example U.S. drones take out al-shabaab militants which is good because those morons are an obstacle for the hardworking Somalis who are busting their ass to develop the country's infrastructure.

Let's not deceive ourselves though the powers that be in the U.S. don't do a single thing that doesn't benefit them but hey that's fair and I'm with that - you scratch my back I scratch yours.

Unfortunately, as Pat said, these things happen. It's the accepted consequences of fighting terrorists, sometimes innocent people gets killed. But we accept that as the necessary cost.

Beyond all the BS, any decent person feels bad for casualties of war.

I feel terrible for the decent Muslims just trying to live their lives.

I hate this world and that's part of the reason I believe in the Bible; the world will be completely destroyed one day due to sinful barbaric humans.

God is good and I believe a better place awaits us.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Mistakes happen. Sometimes bad intel is given. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, and it won't be the last.

Life goes on.[/QUOTE]

You always say stuff like this until it'll eventually happen to you one day.

[QUOTE=stalkerforlife][B]Beyond all the BS, any decent person feels bad for casualties of war.

I feel terrible for the decent Muslims just trying to live their lives.[/B]

I hate this world and that's part of the reason I believe in the Bible; the world will be completely destroyed one day due to sinful barbaric humans.

[B]God is good and I believe a better place awaits us.[/B][/QUOTE]
That's very decent of you. I know in my soul that everything will be alright, that there's a purpose to life that we just can't grasp and that includes all of the tragedies.


That's why I'm big on decency and don't care at all about being "good" or being a good person because that's in the eye of the beholder and in today's world that term is politicized nonsense. Look at the clown trudeau and what he's going through and it's just more proof you can't please everyone.


Instead to me it's all about decency - cleaning up after ourselves and not shitting and pissing on everything while we're here. Life is good we just have to consciously choose to make it better and better.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Mistakes happen. Sometimes bad intel is given. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, and it won't be the last.

Life goes on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=iamgine]Unfortunately, as Pat said, these things happen. It's the accepted consequences of fighting terrorists, sometimes innocent people gets killed. But we accept that as the necessary cost.[/QUOTE]

no. but when you "uncuff" the military, civilian casualty goes up. Dont you remember retard trump saying this and you morons cheering him? theres a reason why obama was diligent with airstrikes, hes also diligent with other aspects of society implementing proper regulation, the same regulations trump dismantled with gross negligence and its going to have negative consequences. so go ahead and take the L, trumptards are responsible for these excessive and unnecessary civilian casualties, and dont mark it up to "oh its just the consequences of war, mistakes happen", no, these arent just mistakes, they are a direct result in the high number of airstrikes allowed by trumps "unchained" military. its directly your faults for voting and supporting a moron.

[QUOTE]

The United Nations mission in Afghanistan reported recently that U.S. airstrikes and Afghan security forces killed more civilians in the first half of 2019 than the Taliban did.

The mission says “pro-government forces” killed 717 civilians while “anti-government forces” killed 531, and 118 deaths could not be attributed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The Trump administration has also escalated the U.S. war against Shabab militants in Somalia, launching 123 airstrikes since early 2017. That’s four times as many as the Obama administration conducted over eight years.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Instead, most of the increase in civilian casualties has stemmed from a sharp increase in U.S. and allied airstrikes. The Pentagon says its forces in Afghanistan conducted 1,302 airstrikes in the first seven months of this year; that’s more than any full year since 2013.[/QUOTE]

trumptards have the blood of innocent people on their hands. "oh its whatever, life goes on"

[QUOTE=superduper]You always say stuff like this until it'll eventually happen to you one day.[/QUOTE]


Say stuff like what? That mistakes like this happen in times of war? It happens all the time. Ever heard of Friendly Fire? We've killed our own.

In terms of my statement that life goes on, well.....does it not? These are things beyond our control and how we react to them determines how we live our lives from that point on.

What should our reaction be in this instance? Should we burn cities down? Should we strap a bomb to our chest and walk into a mall as payback? It will be a never-ending cycle of violence and despair. More souls for God to sort out.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Say stuff like what? That mistakes like this happen in times of war? It happens all the time. Ever heard of Friendly Fire? We've killed our own.

In terms of my statement that life goes on, well.....does it not? [B] These are things beyond our control and how we react to them determines how we live our lives from that point on.
[/B]
What should our reaction be in this instance? Should we burn cities down? Should we strap a bomb to our chest and walk into a mall as payback? It will be a never-ending cycle of violence and despair. More souls for God to sort out.[/QUOTE]

youre absolutely dumb. You voted for trump, he promised to unchain the military and to fight terrorism aggressively. whats the byproduct of doing so? innocent people die at a higher rate.

[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]youre absolutely dumb. You voted for trump, he promised to unchain the military and to fight terrorism aggressively. whats the byproduct of doing so? innocent people die at a higher rate.[/QUOTE]


You're outmatched here, Little Nate. And you know why? Because you're emotional.

Trump promised us that he wasn't going to get us into any more senseless wars, and so far he has kept to that.

He also promised he'd put an end to ISIS, a group that Obama just absolutely struggled with, and guess what, he's practically put ISIS out of commission for the time being.

'Member that big ass bomb he dropped in Syria? Well, that has shut Bashar up for the time being.

So what's your problem with Trump again?? Oh, that's right, he's racist.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]You're outmatched here, Little Nate. And you know why? Because you're emotional.

Trump promised us that he wasn't going to get us into any more senseless wars, and [B]so far he has kept to that[/B].

He also promised he'd put an end to ISIS, a group that Obama just absolutely struggled with, and guess what, he's practically put ISIS [B]out of commission for the time being.
[/B]
'Member that big ass bomb he dropped in Syria? Well, that has shut Bashar [B]up for the time being.[/B]

So what's your problem with Trump again?? Oh, that's right, he's racist.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: learning to tread carefully, eh?

[QUOTE=Loco 50]:oldlol: learning to tread carefully, eh?[/QUOTE]


:oldlol:


Post more often, Loco. We need more sanity in the OTC.

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]:oldlol:


Post more often, Loco. We need more sanity in the OTC.[/QUOTE]
Lotta trolls and mental illness in these here parts.:oldlol: Not good for the soul to spend too much time here.

[QUOTE=Loco 50]:oldlol: learning to tread carefully, eh?[/QUOTE]


Tread carefully or speak honestly? Presidents get us in to wars. Some popular and some not so popular.

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]:oldlol:


Post more often, Loco. We need more sanity in the OTC.[/QUOTE]


LOL why do you get so mad and emotional cause not everyone thinks like you??


You honestly thought everyone was gonna "+1" your ass in this thread??

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]LOL why do you get so mad and emotional cause not everyone thinks like you??


You honestly thought everyone was gonna "+1" your ass in this thread??[/QUOTE]


Seems like you're getting pretty emotional right now, I was just encouraging a smart young lad to post more often.


And most people did +1 me...it's just you, Rufus, Stalk, and iamgine that have a different mind set.

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Seems like you're getting pretty emotional right now, I was just encouraging a smart young lad to post more often.


And most people did +1 me...it's just you, Rufus, Stalk, and iamgine that have a different mind set.[/QUOTE]


:roll:

Rent=Free

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo][url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attack-drones/u-s-drone-strike-kills-30-pine-nut-farm-workers-in-afghanistan-idUSKBN1W40NW?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=reddit.com[/url]

Just the USA killing more civilians and non combatants in the name of freedom and "intent" to kill Islamic State forces. Mind you, there are ONLY 2,000 of those ****ers in Afghanistan...how can you assume a group of people sitting around a lit bonfire are with IS and not just regular people trying to make a dollar?? This will inevitably get completely swept under the rug yet again and no one will bat an eye. It's ONLY TERRORISM when it happens to a non-Muslim country. But you can kill all the civilians you want in places like Afghanistan and get away with it.


Disgusting.[/QUOTE]
maybe these combatants should wear uniforms and not civilian clothing....... that might help keep civilian losses down

and stop hiding among women and children as well

[QUOTE=rufuspaul]:roll:

Rent=Free[/QUOTE]


I hope you enjoy the refreshments in the fridge, all non alcoholic!

The most important question about this whole affair still hasn't been answered. How do you fit 200 people into 5 tents?

[QUOTE=rufuspaul]The most important question about this whole affair still hasn't been answered. How do you fit 200 people into 5 tents?[/QUOTE]


Have you never heard of an industrial tent? :oldlol:


Not the type you go out camping with. Google it, doc.

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Is this the message you'd send to the families of these people who have to live the rest of their lives knowing their father/uncle/son/daughter were killed due to "bad intel"?


"Our bad, but mistakes happen. You guys will be ok. Remember, we are here for your benefit! Remember that and don't hate us!".



At what point does America become the terrorist and the "terrorist groups" become people defending themselves?[/QUOTE]
yes, besides the fact that there at least 10 other countries in that dump trying to get rid of the taliban....... but of course you think those taliban guys are better.

the girl who got shot in the head for going to school might disagree with you.
but who cares about girls and women, right?

[QUOTE=red1]That's very decent of you. I know in my soul that everything will be alright, that there's a purpose to life that we just can't grasp and that includes all of the tragedies.


That's why I'm big on decency and don't care at all about being "good" or being a good person because that's in the eye of the beholder and in today's world that term is politicized nonsense. Look at the clown trudeau and what he's going through and it's just more proof you can't please everyone.


Instead to me it's all about decency - cleaning up after ourselves and not shitting and pissing on everything while we're here. Life is good we just have to consciously choose to make it better and better.[/QUOTE]

I might not knock you out, bro.

Just a couple love taps to soften you up and then a rear naked chokehold with little pressure to ensure you can tap safely.

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Have you never heard of an industrial tent? :oldlol:


Not the type you go out camping with. Google it, doc.[/QUOTE]


I figured they'd be big. I just have this image in my head of all these brown people stacked on top of each other. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=tomtucker]yes, besides the fact that there at least 10 other countries in that dump trying to get rid of the taliban....... but of course you think those taliban guys are better.

the girl who got shot in the head for going to school might disagree with you.
but who cares about girls and women, right?[/QUOTE]



I don't think they are better, it's just becoming more clear why these people hate our country.

[QUOTE=rufuspaul]I figured they'd be big. I just have this image in my head of all these brown people stacked on top of each other. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


Of course you'd find that funny, I assume you laugh hysterically thinking about the detention centers where they are housing Mexican children here in the USA as well? More "brown people stacked on top of each other" only this time instead of a tent, it's in a cage.





Soo funny. hardy har har.