Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=ImKobe]2004 was actually Shaq's worst out of the 4 they played together while Wade's 2011 Finals was his 2nd best.[/QUOTE]
He shot 63.1%. He could have averaged way more if HogBe gave him the ball.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=ImKobe]2013? Wade was only 31? How is a 31 y.o Wade not better than 17th season Kobe? Something doesn't add up here.[/QUOTE]
It's called being hurt? During their win streak he was absolutely dominating and regularly the best player on the team and clearly more impactful than Kobe was that season. He, course, would hurt his knee, though, and play that entire playoffs hurt.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=RRR3]LeBron won the 2011 ECF and the entire 2013 playoffs with Wade struggling :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
You mean the series where Lebron's 3rd option (Bosh) averaged more than Pippen ever did?
2011 ECF
Lebron - 26/8/7 on 44%.. +3.0 in 4th
C Bosh - 23/8/2 on 60%.. +4.2 in 4th
You can't forget his 3rd options when arguing for Bron - if Wade takes the series off, he still has another monster scorer to fall back on if he uses him appropriately
And again - Wade took the weak Eastern playoffs lighter, and turned it up in the Finals (20/4/5 on 48% - so better than Pippen's typical series)
What a luxury to have 2 monster scorers to fall back on, and both top-flight athletes and excellent defenders
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=Smoke117]It's called being hurt? During their win streak he was absolutely dominating and regularly the best player on the team and clearly more impactful than Kobe was that season. He, course, would hurt his knee, though, and play that entire playoffs hurt.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: Wade might have been the best player for like 5 games out of their 27 game win streak. Meanwhile Kobe dragged a bunch of injured, malcontent bums to the playoffs. Kobe was better that season and it's not even close.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=Smoke117]It's called being hurt? During their win streak he was absolutely dominating and regularly the best player on the team and clearly more impactful than Kobe was that season. He, course, would hurt his knee, though, and play that entire playoffs hurt.[/QUOTE]
Lol what?
I love Dwyane Wade, and his 2013 is very underrated. And yes he was crazy efficient, quality defender, and very good in 2013 during their huge winning stretch.
But did you just call him the best and most impactful player on the floor for the Heat? LOL
This was possibly and arguably LeBron
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=Smoke117]It's called being hurt? During their win streak he was absolutely dominating and regularly the best player on the team and clearly more impactful than Kobe was that season. He, course, would hurt his knee, though, and play that entire playoffs hurt.[/QUOTE]
Regularly?
Let's compare Lebron and Wade during the 27-win streak
Wade - 23/6/6
Bron - 27/8/8
Wade also didn't play in two of the wins
Yeah, Wade had some nice games inbetween but best player on his team? :lol
Kobe post-ASB averaged 28/6/7 so it's not like Wade was putting up bigger numbers than him or carrying a team, he had the luxury of playing with great shooters, Bosh and Lebron at his peak. Kobe was out there playing 40-48 minutes every night in April to get an average team into the Playoffs.