Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941624]The charity you describe is the kind of public-facing charity that strikes me as having a high probability of being fake or phony. If you aren't a millionaire, I'm sure a lot of people can find better uses for their money rather than giving it to someone else.[/QUOTE]

Bruh you don’t see the irony in this? :lol

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941634]If it's going to end up reducing insurance premiums and overall health care expenditures leaving a net savings and removing the threat of bankruptcy why not?[/QUOTE]


:roll:

Bernie could have used the money from one of his extra houses to make that difference for some other Americans out there.

Who cares what the law is or who else is doing it. If that’s the rich person’s moral obligation, then WHY DIDNT HE DO IT???

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941695]:roll:

Bernie could have used the money from one of his extra houses to make that difference for some other Americans out there.

Who cares what the law is or who else is doing it. If that’s the rich person’s moral obligation, then WHY DIDNT HE DO IT???[/QUOTE]

There's always an excuse with these clowns.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941695]:roll:

Bernie could have used the money from one of his extra houses to make that difference for some other Americans out there.

Who cares what the law is or who else is doing it. If that’s the rich person’s moral obligation, then WHY DIDNT HE DO IT???[/QUOTE]


[url]https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/10/thank-you-rescuing-me-watch-once-suicidal-veteran-offer-sanders-his-flight-jacket[/url]

[QUOTE=kNIOKAS;13941714][url]https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/10/thank-you-rescuing-me-watch-once-suicidal-veteran-offer-sanders-his-flight-jacket[/url][/QUOTE]


:biggums:

[quote] Weigel said Monday he was able to get his military health insurance retroactively reinstated and he only had to pay $29.50 for each month it had lapsed. [B]A GoFundMe page was launched on his behalf to help him pay down the debt. More than 2,100 donors have given over $45,000 to the fundraiser[/B].[/quote]

That’s awesome for the veteran who got the help, but what does it have to do with Sanders refusing to donate any of his own wealth to people in need?

Bernie basically implored his own base to give their own money to one guy as a PR thing for Bernie.

Bernie has given virtually NOTHING, as his tax records clearly indicate.

[QUOTE=Phong;13941669]The irony. :yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Phong;13941670]Charity is a voluntary action. You shouldn't demand or expect people to donate. You should only be grateful if they do so. Stop being entitled. Worry about your own money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CelticBaller;13941675]Bruh you donÂ’t see the irony in this? :lol[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941695]:roll:

Bernie could have used the money from one of his extra houses to make that difference for some other Americans out there.

Who cares what the law is or who else is doing it. If thatÂ’s the rich personÂ’s moral obligation, then WHY DIDNT HE DO IT???[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hawker;13941697]There's always an excuse with these clowns.[/QUOTE]

Governments perform certain essential functions so equating taxes with charitable donations is dumb from the outset. Taxes aren't a moral obligation; they are a legal obligation. Rich people would not be doing society a favor by paying more in taxes and would not deserve gratitude, they would simply be doing their duty.

There may be clowns here but I'd argue it's those who defend the vast percentage of growth over the years going to the top 1%. You can justify it anyway you want but in most other circumstances where someone gets that much advantage by gaming the system, the other people who stand around doing nothing are called fools.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941721]Governments perform certain essential functions so equating taxes with charitable donations is dumb from the outset. Taxes aren't a moral obligation; they are a legal obligation. Rich people would not be doing society a favor by paying more in taxes and would not deserve gratitude, they would simply be doing their duty.

There may be clowns here but I'd argue it's those who defend the vast percentage of growth over the years going to the top 1%. You can justify it anyway you want but in most other circumstances where someone gets that much advantage by gaming the system, the other people who stand around doing nothing are called fools.[/QUOTE]


People got rich because they were invested in something that was successful and brought the quality of life up in society.

That’s what they did to earn the money. Do you not understand that?

Medicine and microchips and delivery services dont just spring up naturaly from the ground. Other people created them, invested in them, poured their whole life into them with zero guarantee of a return.

You are petty and jealous and youre trying to disguise it under a moral imperative that others must give you things without their consent and without you offering anything back.

Youre transparent.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941723]People got rich because they were invested in something that was successful and brought the quality of life up in society.

That’s what they did to earn the money. Do you not understand that?

Medicine and microchips and delivery services dont just spring up naturaly from the ground. Other people created them, invested in them, poured their whole life into them with zero guarantee of a return.

You are petty and jeaous and youre trying to disguise it under a moral imperative for others to give you things without their consent and without you offering anything back.

Youre transparent.[/QUOTE]


Society should certainly reward those who create. The question is "how much?" When people who work hard and do everything society has trained them to do still have a hard time making ends meet especially when the economy is supposedly growing then I would argue there is a problem. The economy has grown substantially but most of that created wealth has accrued to a tiny minority. The disparity of incomes and wealth of the bottom from the top is as great as in the Gilded Age. That is the state of affairs. You accept the premise that it is a fair state and the rules that got to this state are fair. Both are open to debate. All of it is subject to renegotiation. Why you seem wedded to the current state of affairs and will not brook modification is something you'll have to explain.

Unless you are in the top bracket of the wealthy the only logical explanation I can see is that you have been brainwashed.

[QUOTE=Hawker;13941697]There's always an excuse with these clowns.[/QUOTE]

Should we get rid of all taxes? I asked you & richieboy this before but never got a reply. I ask again.

Are you in favor of taxes or are you not?

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941731][B]Society should certainly reward those who create. The question is "how much?" [/B]When people who work hard and do everything society has trained them to do still have a hard time making ends meet especially when the economy is supposedly growing then I would argue there is a problem. The economy has grown substantially but most of that created wealth has accrued to a tiny minority. The disparity of incomes and wealth of the bottom from the top is as great as in the Gilded Age. That is the state of affairs. You accept the premise that it is a fair state and the rules that got to this state are fair. Both are open to debate.[/QUOTE]


The answer has already been given by the success or failure of whatever product or industry. Society has rewarded people like Bezos and Gates and Trump and Sanders with what society overall deems fit. Theyve done this by consuming their product voluntarily at the cost stipulated.

Meanwhile you and some 15-20% of the country are simply trying to horn in and politically strong arm a cut for yourselves.

**** off.

[QUOTE=bladefd;13941733]Should we get rid of all taxes? I asked you & richieboy this before but never got a reply. I ask again.

Are you in favor of taxes or are you not?[/QUOTE]

Flat tax.

Whether it’s income, consumption, whatever.

Everyone should pay the same to the government, because the government is legaly required to treat everyone EQUALLY.

But for you equality is just a buzzword for use when it’s convenient to your personal aims. Otherwise you dont gaf.

Fraud.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941739]The answer has already been given by the success or failure of a whatever product or industry. Society has rewarded people like Bezos and Gates and Trump and Sanders with what society overall deems fit.

Meanwhile you and some 15-20% of the country are simply trying to horn in and politically strong arm a cut for yourselves.

**** off.[/QUOTE]

You are presuming society overall deems it fit. That is actually the question at hand: Is it fit?

Going by your logic you might as well be a peasant in the Dark Ages agreeing to the idea of the Divine Right of Kings.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941731]Society should certainly reward those who create. The question is "how much?" When people who work hard and do everything society has trained them to do still have a hard time making ends meet especially when the economy is supposedly growing then I would argue there is a problem. [B]The economy has grown substantially but most of that created wealth has accrued to a tiny minority. The disparity of incomes and wealth of the bottom from the top is as great as in the Gilded Age[/B]. That is the state of affairs. You accept the premise that it is a fair state and the rules that got to this state are fair. Both are open to debate.[/QUOTE]

They don't recognize that fact. Economy has grown exponentially since the late-60s, but only a very small minority at the top has benefited by incomprehensible margins. That's a fact nobody can dispute.

At the same time, that same minority have benefited from massive tax cuts over the decades. That's also a fact nobody can dispute.

It's a double whammy that nobody can dispute.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941745]Flat tax.

Whether it’s income, consumption, whatever.

Everyone should pay the same to the government, because the government is legaly required to treat everyone EQUALLY.

But for you equality is just a buzzword for use when it’s convenient to your personal aims. Otherwise you dont gaf.

Fraud.[/QUOTE]


But the government doesn't treat everyone equally. The benefits the government provides doesn't benefit everyone equally. The owner of a company that has a fleet of trucks transporting merchandise likely uses the roads a whole lot more and benefits a whole lot more from the roads than an individual. You saying they should pay the exact same amount?

The left has no actual specific, coherent principles. It’s just whatever comes to their mind at the moment, so long as it benefits them.

“Fair share!”

[I]Your hero Bernie hasnt offered a fair share.[/I]

“Nah, I mean Bernie doesnt have to, but like... if youre rich... then like you gotta like, give something more.”

[I]How much more?[/I]

“Well it depends on the person, and like, if if I support them poltically I guess.”

[I]Sounds intelligent.[/I]

“JUST PAY UR FAIR SHARE TO ME ASSHOLE!!!!”

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941751]But the government doesn't treat everyone equally. The benefits the government provides doesn't benefit everyone equally. The owner of a company that has a fleet of trucks transporting merchandise likely uses the roads a whole lot more and benefits a whole lot more from the roads than an individual. You saying they should pay the exact same amount?[/QUOTE]

Yes because if billionaires are paying 10% in taxes we will still be able to afford roads.

Also have you heard of tolls?

[QUOTE=bladefd;13941749]They don't recognize that fact. Economy has grown exponentially since the late-60s, but only a very small minority at the top has benefited by incomprehensible margins. That's a fact nobody can dispute. [/quote] What have you done to earn a share of that wealth?

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941754]Yes because if billionaires are still paying 10% in taxes we will be able to afford roads.

Also have you heard of tolls?[/QUOTE]

How do you account for the benefits of education then? The worker who is educated benefits but so does the employer. The employer likely employs multiple workers so the benefit derived is multiplied for the employer. Shouldn't he pay more in tax for the higher benefit derived from the educational system? This is but one other instance. There are multiple other ways billionaires who probably own businesses benefit. Pollution that needs to be cleaned. Tax breaks for setting up a business. Favorable laws that might impinge on other constituents. Etc.

[QUOTE=Phong;13941757]What have you done to earn a share of that wealth?[/QUOTE]



The answer is a fact nobody can dispute.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941751]The owner of a company that has a fleet of trucks transporting merchandise likely uses the roads a whole lot more and benefits a whole lot more from the roads than an individual. You saying they should pay the exact same amount?[/QUOTE] That's covered by the gas tax. They drive more, use more fuel, pay more in gas tax. On top of that they pay higher registrations for their trucks, pay weight-mileage taxes, etc..

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941751]But the government doesn't treat everyone equally. The benefits the government provides doesn't benefit everyone equally. The owner of a company that has a fleet of trucks transporting merchandise likely uses the roads a whole lot more and benefits a whole lot more from the roads than an individual. You saying they should pay the exact same amount?[/QUOTE]

The corporations also have access to loopholes that no other individual has access to. It is beneficial enough that they end up paying very little in actual taxes. Yes the corporate rate is like 23.5%, but very few, if any, pay close to that. That's a fact nobody can dispute.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941758]How do you account for the benefits of education then? The worker who is educated benefits but so does the employer. [B]The employer likely employs multiple workers so the benefit derived is multiplied for the employer. [/B]Shouldn't he pay more in tax for the higher benefit derived from the educational system?[/QUOTE]

So is the risk.

Hence, risk-reward.

That’s like, the essence of what life is homie. No risk, no reward.

No incentive to innovate and employ, no innovation and employment.

If you want a bigger share, demand it. Either with your ability to produce, or your willingness to abstain from unfavorable business models as a consumer. Either earn more, or rely less on others.

Immigration has destroyed the leverage of workers.

Why dont I ever hear you talking about the immigration factor?

Dont have the balls?

Then that’s why you are where you are.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941752]The left has no actual specific, coherent principles. It’s just whatever comes to their mind at the moment, so long as it benefits them.

“Fair share!”

[I]Your hero Bernie hasnt offered a fair share.[/I]

“Nah, I mean Bernie doesnt have to, but like... if youre rich... then like you gotta like, give something more.”

[I]How much more?[/I]

“Well it depends on the person, and like, if if I support them poltically I guess.”

[I]Sounds intelligent.[/I]

“JUST PAY UR FAIR SHARE TO ME ASSHOLE!!!!”[/QUOTE]

Fair share for a start would mean having adequate healthcare without fear of going bankrupt. That's pretty clear.
Free education is pretty clear too since the government owns most of the debt and education benefits society.

[QUOTE=Phong;13941757]What have you done to earn a share of that wealth?[/QUOTE]

I don't want that money. The middle-class deserves it, including my parents, my grandparents, others for working their ass of. Many used to work multiple jobs through the economic boom of 70s/80s/90s.

Go ask that question to your dad and mom. Go ask your grandfather if he is still around. Go ask your uncle. (assuming they were all middle-class or lower)

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941765]So is the risk.

Hence, risk-reward.

That’s like, the essence of what life is homie. No risk, no reward.

No incentive to innovate and employ, no innovation and employment.

If you want a bigger share, demand it. Either with your ability to produce, or your willingness to abstain from unfavorable business models as a consumer. Either earn more, or rely less on others.

Immigration has destroyed the leverage of workers.

Why dont I ever hear you talking about the immigration factor?

Dont have the balls?

Then that’s why you are where you are.[/QUOTE]

The government when it provides its services does so to improve society. But it takes a risk too. Why shouldn't it be repaid by employers in an equitable manner? The billionaires profit disproportionately from the services that government and society provide why is it anathema to expect them to pay a proportionate share to the benefits they have reaped?

[QUOTE=bladefd;13941776]I don't want that money. The middle-class deserves it, including my parents, my grandparents, others for working their ass of. Many used to work multiple jobs through the economic boom of 70s/80s/90s.[/quote]Were they not compensated for their work by their employers?

[QUOTE=bladefd;13941776]Go ask that question to your dad and mom. Go ask your grandfather if he is still around. Go ask your uncle. (assuming they were all middle-class or lower)[/QUOTE]I come from a country where people thought it fair to confiscate people's property and redistribute it in the name of a "just and fair society". Those who didn't agree were executed or imprisoned.

If I were to ask my relatives, they would tell me that I have to count on myself to make it. They would point to a successful guy and tell me to look at him and aspire to reach that same level of success. They wouldn't tell me to take his money to reduce our wealth gap.

Seems like your family probably rants about "The Man" who held them back and got rich from the sweat from their backs.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941771]Fair share for a start would mean having adequate healthcare without fear of going bankrupt. That's pretty clear.
Free education is pretty clear too since the government owns most of the debt and education benefits society.[/QUOTE]

Should we provide those things to anyone in the world who can reach US soil?

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941778]The billionaires profit disproportionately from the services that government and society provide why is it anathema to expect them to pay a proportionate share to the benefits they have reaped?[/QUOTE] The 1% already pay 38% of all income tax, the bottom 50% pays nothing.

How much more should the 1% pay? Do you think they can cover the cost of all the free stuff that you want?

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13941791]Should we provide those things to anyone in the world who can reach US soil?[/QUOTE]



Notice how the convo ended immediately with this question.

Pretty sad..

Bloomberg spent $500 million or more on just wanting power and even more fame during his run.

These people don't care about you or the people below you. They're all the same. Republican and Democrat alike. There needs to be a new party. I'm independent moving forward and never again want to align to any party until after these elections to get this moron out.

[QUOTE=Phong;13941796]The 1% already pay 38% of all income tax, the bottom 50% pays nothing.

How much more should the 1% pay? Do you think they can cover the cost of all the free stuff that you want?[/QUOTE]

Comments like these are exactly why you're on the bottom of the tadpole. The 1% doesn't give a flying fck about you or anyone below them. In fact, they don't even respect millionaires.

Backing them up like you're on their payroll does no good for you or anyone else.

They've earned their money through loopholes and squeezing people who work for them as much as possible until they're on to the next thing.

Walmart can always find another teenager or HS dropout crackhead to work for them without benefits and not a livable wage, or, a person down on their feet with a family to take care of.

It's insane how many people back the top 1% when shit hits the fan here (Corona virus, any disaster) given the opportunity they're going to other places together to avoid the plagues while you fend for yourself.

Sooner or later there's going to be a revolution against them and the numbers in people vs the numbers in money can't do anything but buy time.

[QUOTE=Draz;13942054]
Walmart can always find another teenager or HS dropout crackhead to work for them without benefits and not a livable wage, or, a person down on their feet with a family to take care of.

It's insane how many people back the top 1% when shit hits the fan here (Corona virus, any disaster) given the opportunity they're going to other places together to avoid the plagues while you fend for yourself.

Sooner or later there's going to be a revolution against them and the numbers in people vs the numbers in money can't do anything but buy time.[/QUOTE]


It’s not about taking sides, it’s about a sustainable model of government. There have to be rules, not just people taking from anyone they feel like it because theyve invented a moral justification.

There are thousands of people in every city who live under bridges with no money. If they all walked into your house and demanded their fair share, youd be dialing 911 in a second. You wouldnt be offering to lease them all apartments and pick up their grocery tabs. Youd give them your CHANGE. Your spare crumbs and nothing more. You have WAY MORE than they do. And youd turn them away. Youd call the police and get them out, then youd find someone with more than you and point them out like “look at this guy!!! He has too much!!! someone make him help these people!!!”

People at every income level are responsible for themselves. That’s called a principle. You apparently do not have any. It has nothing to do with supporting billionaires, it has to do with respecting basic society. Yours is yours, someone else’s is theirs. Why cant me and my buddies take from you, but you can take from orhers? Yourself selfish and phony. You wanna SAY the popular stuff (more for everyone, make the fortunate pay!!) but you wont pay yourself. Your whole “philosophy” is a hypocritical, selfish sham that passes the buck.

Not everyone needs to resort to that. Some people have pride and values that say everyone who earns legally can KEEP what they earn and decide how to use it.

Youre no better than a common house thief, just because youve got a bunch of bozos in your echo chamber backing you up.

It’s been explained to you a million times but you stick to your narrative bc you think it makes you sound like some kind of hero. You wont give up YOUR share of the global 1%, so youre pointing the finger at others to make yourself feel better about it. See if you can actually convince enough people to make it legal for you to open up someone else’s wallet and grab what you like.

Youre deciding what you want to believe before thinking about it, and since it’s popular among your peers youre just mindlessly repeating it.

There are intelligent ways to bring down health costs, get people off the street etc. But they require intelligent, cooperative action from YOU AND ME, not just some rich guy to throw cash at a problem cash wont solve.

Youre not interested in intelligent and methodical. You want instant solution that requires nothing from you, but allows you to take all the credit. That wont get results, but youre unable to think far enough ahead to understand how things work anyway.

You have no idea what a child you sound like.

Bottom of the tadpole? I'm not the one moaning and whining to get scraps from the 1%. It's quite pathetic that you guys have no ambitions beyond dreaming about taking other people's money.

Are you gonna be ok until the revolution?

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;13942072]
People at every income level are responsible for themselves. That’s called a principle. You apparently do not have any. [...] Yours is yours, someone else’s is theirs.

Some people have pride and values that say everyone who earns legally can KEEP what they earn and decide how to use it.[/QUOTE]:applause:

I wonder what kind of parents raised such a bunch of whiny and envious losers.

[QUOTE=bladefd;13941749]They don't recognize that fact. Economy has grown exponentially since the late-60s, but only a very small minority at the top has benefited by incomprehensible margins. That's a fact nobody can dispute.

At the same time, that same minority have benefited from massive tax cuts over the decades. That's also a fact nobody can dispute.

It's a double whammy that nobody can dispute.[/QUOTE]

This simply is not the case. Share of income has increased substantially across all sectors. Age gap is something not taken into account in so called wealth "inequality" which isn't a major issue.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941751]But the government doesn't treat everyone equally. The benefits the government provides doesn't benefit everyone equally. The owner of a company that has a fleet of trucks transporting merchandise likely uses the roads a whole lot more and benefits a whole lot more from the roads than an individual. You saying they should pay the exact same amount?[/QUOTE]

Those individuals are purchasing the materials the owner is shipping is he not? And those materials are enriching the lives of those purchasing it or they not?

[QUOTE=Phong;13941789]Were they not compensated for their work by their employers? [/QUOTE]

Nope, your argument is incomplete. Go look at how much production went up from the 60s and then later decades. Then go take a look at how much middle-class incomes went up after accounted for inflation since the 70s.

[IMG]https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTMwOTY0Mjc4MTkzNzIyNjQy/chart1jpg.jpg[/IMG]

Apple pays their workers in China, India and Bangladesh $2 a day working 6 days a week in horrendous unsafe conditions. They are being compensated too, but nobody sits here and says it is reasonable. Look at the massive profit margins Apple is collecting on those very same phones.

Trickle down economics is a con job by Reagan and later conservative fools. In practice, it does not work out as theorized

You are being cucked by the rich oligarchs and continue defending those who are doing the cucking :lol

Think of it this way. You have a wife? Say I began to bang her in your own house while you are at work. Then you find out about it, and you do nothing about it. Pretty soon, I begin to bang her while you are home in different room, but you keep allowing the cucking. Then next thing you know, I start banging your 18yr old daughter few years later. Again you do nothing. You keep getting cucked again and again through the generations, but you have nothing to say. You walk around smiling as if nothing is happening. You keep watching and doing nothing as you keep getting used & your wife+daughter screwed :pimp:

[QUOTE=Hawker;13942094]This simply is not the case. Share of income has increased substantially across all sectors. Age gap is something not taken into account in so called wealth "inequality" which isn't a major issue.[/QUOTE]

Income growth has been outrageously out of control to the top 1% beyond comprehension since the 70s. That's a fact.

[QUOTE=Hawker;13942095]Those individuals are purchasing the materials the owner is shipping is he not? And those materials are enriching the lives of those purchasing it or they not?[/QUOTE]

Yes and the owner is profiting. Also the individual buyers are in many cases paying an extra something called a sales tax.

[QUOTE=bladefd;13942100]Nope, your argument is incomplete. Go look at how much production went up from the 60s and then later decades. Then go take a look at how much middle-class incomes went up after accounted for inflation since the 70s.

[IMG]https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTMwOTY0Mjc4MTkzNzIyNjQy/chart1jpg.jpg[/IMG][/quote] You think the increase in production resulted from workers working more or was it due to more efficient manufacturing processes and increased automation?

As for middle class income it followed inflation and they have the same purchasing power as they had in the past. What are you expecting? That somehow you should be able to buy more stuff for doing the same work?

[I]"In fact, despite some ups and downs over the past several decades, today’s real average wage (that is, the wage after accounting for inflation) has about [B]the same purchasing power it did 40 years ago[/B]."[/I]

[url]https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/[/url]

[QUOTE=bladefd;13942100]
Apple pays their workers in China,
India and Bangladesh $2 a day working 6 days a week in horrendous unsafe conditions. They are being compensated too, but nobody sits here and says it is reasonable. Look at the massive profit margins Apple is collecting on those very same phones.[/quote] Reasonable according to which standards? American standards or theirs? Developing countries welcome those jobs as they provide a way for them to escape extreme poverty.

Btw, Apple pays their Chinese factory workers $3.15/hr; not $2 a day like you claimed.

Apple can make all the money they want. They provide a product and people buy it. Where in the middle of that transaction do you think you have the right to take money for yourself?

[QUOTE=bladefd;13942100]Think of it this way. You have a wife? Say I began to bang her in your own house while you are at work. Then you find out about it, and you do nothing about it. Pretty soon, I begin to bang her while you are home in different room, but you keep allowing the cucking. Then next thing you know, I start banging your 18yr old daughter few years later. Again you do nothing. You keep getting cucked again and again through the generations, but you have nothing to say. You walk around smiling as if nothing is happening. You keep watching and doing nothing as you keep getting used & your wife+daughter screwed :pimp:[/QUOTE]I hope you enjoyed that little tale. For once in your life you were able to imagine yourself as a pimp and not a loser. Unfortunately, it's time to go back to reality.

Simple question, are you unable to provide for yourself?