is this the worst generation in cinema history??

[QUOTE=hold this L]I think there are less top tier movies being made in Hollywood though, but I agree it's not like they don't exist anymore either. The influx of comic book heroes, aka basic b*tch action movies have made it harder for movie studios to invest as much on the kind of movies Nolan, Tarantino, etc make compared to say 10-15 years ago.


Also, everybody needs to watch Parasite. That movie is ****ing money. Quick before it goes away from theaters. Will be watching the Lighthouse which I heard is really good, starring our new Bruce Wayne.[/QUOTE]

The Lighthouse is great. Saw it back on Halloween.

[QUOTE=Shogon]Over the shoulder shooters are absolute dog shit. It

[QUOTE=Shogon]Over the shoulder shooters are absolute dog shit. It

[QUOTE=egokiller]There hasn't been a single FPS on console that has a decent skill curve since Halo CE. Fortnite, Apex legends, COD, Halo 5, PubG, Destiny, Gears... it's all easy instant gratification shit with no skill. Boring as shit with no desire to get better since you're literally firing this shit up on your first or 2nd play through and coming in 1st or 2nd those games.

When I played golden eye for the first time, I got my ass handed to me for weeks by those that had played the game for awhile. Same thing with halo CE. Haven't experienced that since. It's a complete joke.[/QUOTE]

"back when I was a kid it seemed tough"


"now that i'm an adult it seems easier"




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[QUOTE=LAmbruh]The original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was hard too

But it wasn't hard exciting because of the challenge, it was difficult because the mechanics and obstacles were trash


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It was exciting because you learned how to get through that water level while still having 2 of the turtles with full health. The swimming was finicky, which made mastering it all that more gratifying. The very next stage has a full pizza so you just would grab it, then leave, switch to a different turtle, and grab it again.:lol

Now that final level.... that was a royal PITA. By the time you got to Shredder you didn't have any life left. Damn that game brings back some memories.

[QUOTE=LAmbruh]"back when I was a kid it seemed tough"


"now that i'm an adult it seems easier"[/QUOTE]

What I'm saying is if you take an adult that has never played an FPS or 3rd person shooter in their life, it will take much longer for them to get good at a game that came out in the early 2000 than it will any of this newer shit.

Quake, CS 1.6, Halo CE, Half life.... those games have such a higher skill curve than any of this newer shit. The games these days are dumbed down so that junior doesn't take the shit back to gamestop since he's not getting any kills. Back then, you just accepted you sucked, and kept playing it until you got good. It's a different mindset today.

[QUOTE=LAmbruh]"back when I was a kid it seemed tough"


"now that i'm an adult it seems easier"




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[QUOTE=diamenz]with the sjw flop of feminator and other classics like ghostbusters, oceans & star wars getting raped (even video games like battlefield), along with the absence of great actors (where's the pacinos, deniros, nicholsons and hopkins of today?), this has to be the shittiest era in film history. i mean, there's some good stuff out there, but this era is just LACKING. it's pretty sad to see.[/QUOTE]
Disagree

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[QUOTE=andgar923]Disagree

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[QUOTE=egokiller]Which sjw feminist incels have you been talking to? Feminator and other classics like ghostbusters, and star wars automatically disqualify this as being the GOAT era for film. The majority never asked for any of this.[/QUOTE]

Terminator is going to have a 200-300 million dollar LOSS at the box office, LMAO.

Our wallets might be the only thing that ends this nonsense.

Just checked... female ghostbusters lost $125 million. LMFAO.

[QUOTE=egokiller]What I'm saying is if you take an adult that has never played an FPS or 3rd person shooter in their life, it will take much longer for them to get good at a game that came out in the early 2000 than it will any of this newer shit.

Quake, CS 1.6, Halo CE, Half life.... those games have such a higher skill curve than any of this newer shit. The games these days are dumbed down so that junior doesn't take the shit back to gamestop since he's not getting any kills. Back then, you just accepted you sucked, and kept playing it until you got good. It's a different mindset today.[/QUOTE]
Try playing Dark Souls and you'll completely change your mind

[QUOTE=Celtics 1825]Try playing Dark Souls and you'll completely change your mind[/QUOTE]

I’ve played bloodborne and demon souls and completed them 100%. Dark Souls is easier than both I’m told. I was also told that since I shitted on those games, that Sekiro may peak my interest.

Video games are for sure better now than ever before. OoT was highly regarded as the GOAT game at one point. Seeing modern open world games today there really isn't a comparison.

[QUOTE=Shogon]Terminator is going to have a 200-300 million dollar LOSS at the box office, LMAO.

Our wallets might be the only thing that ends this nonsense.

Just checked... female ghostbusters lost $125 million. LMFAO.[/QUOTE]


This needs to happen to Star Wars next month :cheers:

[QUOTE=MrFonzworth]Video games are for sure better now than ever before. OoT was highly regarded as the GOAT game at one point. Seeing modern open world games today there really isn't a comparison.[/QUOTE]

In BoTW I enjoyed solving the puzzles much more than climbing mountains and towers to unlock new areas. Game was broke after farming dragon scales and selling for $$$.

[QUOTE=egokiller]In BoTW I enjoyed solving the puzzles much more than climbing mountains and towers to unlock new areas. Game was broke after farming dragon scales and selling for $$$.[/QUOTE]
I've never played BotW. Haven't touched a Nintendo in years.

[QUOTE=MrFonzworth]I've never played BotW. Haven't touched a Nintendo in years.[/QUOTE]

It had been some time since I touched one (never played Wii or Wii U) but after hearing all the fuss about botw, I had to try it. I didn

Last night's episode of Mr Robot was phenomenal. :eek:

[QUOTE=egokiller]Which sjw feminist incels have you been talking to? Feminator and other classics like ghostbusters, and star wars automatically disqualify this as being the GOAT era for film. The majority never asked for any of this.[/QUOTE]

So just because you dislike some films it automatically disqualifies it from this being the best era?

Sorry but even crappy films from today are objectively better compared to their counterparts from past eras.

As shitty as some of these films today may be, many of them still have objectively better qualities than past era's. Production quality, cinematography techniques, acting has improved on what their predecessors pioneered. And I still haven't even touched on how special effects (not the blockbuster multi million dollar ones) have transformed films.

Im normally the old geezer stating shit like "back in my day!!!".

But I sincerely try to be open and keep an open mind (even though it may not seem like it to most).

Yet objectively and subjectively speaking tv and film has improved and taken what their predecessors made to the next level.

An average actor today is better.
An average director today is better.
An average writer today is better.
An average film today is better.
An average cinematographer today is better.

They've all learned from the past and improved on it. To top it off, the audience (gulp... can't believe I'm gonna say this) has become more sophisticated in many ways as they're exposed to behind the scenes and making off films. The exposure to the creative process and advances in technology along with availability has made the entertainment industry better (well... at least film and tv). We're exposed to more today and we've built on what we've learned both as content creators and consumers (too bad it's the opposite for music).

I see YouTube videos that take inspiration from past major films and tv shows. The production values, writing, editing by some YouTubers is equivalent and at times better than a good portion of past era's major output, and NO Im not exaggerating.

As consumers we've demanded more, we've learned more, we've studied more and the entertainment industry has followed.

So yeah, there's tons and tons of crappy shit out today. But guess what? there was tons of crappier shit out back then as well, worse than today's crappy shit.

Relative to what they had to work with back then, they did much better relative to what the industry of today has to work with. Improving on something when someone else already wrote the blueprint for it and claiming that it’s some innovative idea or process (that already existed but to a lesser degree) doesn’t really impress me.

[QUOTE=egokiller]Relative to what they had to work with back then, they did much better relative to what the industry of today has to work with. Improving on something when someone else already wrote the blueprint for it and claiming that it

Yes.
Studio owners are hiring using nepotism, not talent.
Draining the hollywood swamp of the influence of "the gay mafia" and "the russian (jewish) mafia" will be needed to make film great again.

[QUOTE=coin24]This needs to happen to Star Wars next month :cheers:[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't bank on it... it's Disney, it's Christmas... and it's Star Wars... pretty deadly combo for the box office... no way they don't kill the $.

Like some poster said: the volume of movie making has increased but the quality is not down.

You got Irishman, Joker, Ford v Ferrari ( pretty damn great movie), Endgame, Once upon a Time in Hollywood all come out in the same year.

Television has been great with The Crown season 3 each episode seems like a standalone great movie, The Mandalorian, Cernobyl ( oh damn) etc on TV.


I found this year to be pretty good for movies and series

[QUOTE=scuzzy]2020 looking better than last :confusedshrug:


Dune
Bond ( Ana De Armas :pimp: )
Tenet
Top Gun
Quiet Place 2
Bad Boys 3

on deep horizon: Matrix, Sicario 3, BladeRunner

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Tenet ! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[QUOTE=Andrei89]Like some poster said: the volume of movie making has increased but the quality is not down.

You got Irishman, Joker, Ford v Ferrari ( pretty damn great movie), Endgame, Once upon a Time in Hollywood all come out in the same year.

Television has been great with The Crown season 3 each episode seems like a standalone great movie, The Mandalorian, Cernobyl ( oh damn) etc on TV.


I found this year to be pretty good for movies and series[/QUOTE]
Watch Parasite before it's out of theaters, one of the best movies in the last few years. It's Korean with ENG subtitles though.

[QUOTE=scuzzy]2020 looking better than last :confusedshrug:


Dune
Bond ( Ana De Armas :pimp: )
Tenet
Top Gun
Quiet Place 2
Bad Boys 3

on deep horizon: Matrix, Sicario 3, BladeRunner

[url]https://streamable.com/kzbjz[/url]

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I give you Tenet and maybe Bond. The rest though?

Better than 2019? No way. Once Upon a Time, Irishman, Ford v Ferrari, Endgame, Joker, John Wick 3 they shit on upcoming 2020 films. Hell in 2019 we were lucky to witness a top 20 movie of all time in Joker. How many times does that happEn? Once a decade?

The problem is that although there's been good films this year, overall it's watered down by all the flops like ferminator, ghostbusters reboot, and the like.

It's funny that we are talking about this the same time when you have movies like The Irishman, Ford vs Ferrari, Beautiful Day, The Lighthouse, The Joker, all coming out in the last 2 months or so.

1. Due to improvements in home theatre systems, people are increasingly unlikely to watch a film in theatres unless it's a big budget special FX film.

2. The foreign market % for Hollywood films is higher than before so studios want to make films that will have a broad appeal to a non-English native speaker. Cue simpler dialogue and eye candy in your big budget special FX film.

3. Since these films are expensive to make, studios are hesitant to try something that deviates from established film making formulas

= Predictable mediocre popcorn flicks