"Pippen was the best player in the world in 93, 94, 95" - Dennis Rodman

[QUOTE=red1;13973965]no you wont bitch.


you're a f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking retard. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RRR3;13973975]:roll:[/QUOTE]

great avatar dude. 3wade got that finals MVP in the trophy case.

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great avatar dude. 3wade got that finals MVP in the trophy case.

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Thanks, man. I put it up to honor him after he retired. I probably would have changed it by now but if you change your avatar now it gets smaller than ones you had before the update.

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great avatar dude. 3wade got that finals MVP in the trophy case.

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Fitting how you have the two worst posters here on your side. This is amusing :oldlol:

[QUOTE=RRR3;13973984]Thanks, man. I put it up to honor him after he retired. I probably would have changed it by now but if you change your avatar now it gets smaller than ones you had before the update.[/QUOTE]

I'll always appreciate the heatles


huge fan of the way these pics still trigger people.


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[QUOTE=LAL;13973986]Fitting how you have the two worst posters here on your side. This is amusing :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


stay triggered dude


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[QUOTE=LAL;13973986]Fitting how you have the two worst posters here on your side. This is amusing :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Are you under the impression you're considered a good poster?


I hate to break it to you, but...

[QUOTE=RRR3;13973994]Are you under the impression you're considered a good poster?


I hate to break it to you, but...[/QUOTE]

I don't post much and many many people here would appreciate if you did the same.

[QUOTE=red1;13973965]no you wont bitch.


you're a f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking retard. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=LAL;13974000]I don't post much on this account.[/QUOTE]
Fixed.

[QUOTE=LAmbruh;13974003]:roll:[/QUOTE]

You thought that was funny? I'm cool with kids trying to clown me, but what was the funny part there, maybe i'm just too old. "no you won't bitcht" part or the "youre a retard"?

[QUOTE=red1;13973965]no you wont bitch.


you're a f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking retard. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

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No one said Dirk was the best player in 2011. It was LeBron, Kobe, Wade as the consensus top 3. Dirk probably came in 4th or 5th. I do think Dirk was the best player in the playoffs, though.[/QUOTE]

You gotta put Dwight in there somewhere. I'm not sure I'd slide Kobe in that top 3 in 2011 to be honest. Lebron, Wade, Dirk, Howard IIRC had better campaigns. Kobe may have been like 5th. Rose the MVP at 6.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;13974019]You gotta put Dwight in there somewhere. I'm not sure I'd slide Kobe in that top 3 in 2011 to be honest. Lebron, Wade, Dirk, Howard IIRC had better campaigns. Kobe may have been like 5th. Rose the MVP at 6.[/QUOTE]
Kobe definitely wasn't top 3 in 2011. The clear top 4 imo were

Dirk
LeBron
Dwight
Wade

Then you'd have some order of Rose, Durant, Kobe after that

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;13974024]Kobe definitely wasn't top 3 in 2011. The clear top 4 imo were

Dirk
LeBron
Dwight
Wade

Then you'd have some order of Rose, Durant, Kobe after that[/QUOTE]

Yeah that sounds about right. You have Dirk definitively over Lebron that year or is that list in no particular order?

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;13974024]Kobe definitely wasn't top 3 in 2011. The clear top 4 imo were

Dirk
LeBron
Dwight
Wade

Then you'd have some order of Rose, Durant, Kobe after that[/QUOTE]
:whatever:

How was Dirk suddenly better at basketball than LeBron because of one choke job lol.

[QUOTE=RRR3;13974031]:whatever:

How was Dirk suddenly better at basketball than LeBron because of one choke job lol.[/QUOTE]

I personally took that as Dirk having a better season, not that he was better at basketball overall. Subtle difference, but SBT can clarify.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;13974030]Yeah that sounds about right. You have Dirk definitively over Lebron that year or is that list in no particular order?[/QUOTE]
2011 is for sure not a definitive year, that's one of the hardest seasons to nail down who the best player in the league was. Dirk would be my top choice for that year, and honestly, the rest probably would be my ordering for 2011

[QUOTE=Phoenix;13974033]I personally took that as Dirk having a better season, not that he was better at basketball overall. Subtle difference, but SBT can clarify.[/QUOTE]
He had a better finals for sure, but LeBron was better the rest of the way considering that was peak defensive LeBron.

[QUOTE=RRR3;13974031]:whatever:

How was Dirk suddenly better at basketball than LeBron because of one choke job lol.[/QUOTE]
Probably because he got his first fmvp before lbj even got his own.

[QUOTE=Axe;13974052]Probably because he got his first fmvp before lbj even got his own.[/QUOTE]

So is Iguodala still a better player than Curry?

[QUOTE=Mamba4Life;13974059]So is Iguodala still a better player than Curry?[/QUOTE]
Wtf are you asking me that question when you know for a fact that I'm not even a dub stan?

[QUOTE=Axe;13974061]Wtf are you asking me that question when you know for a fact that I'm not even a dub stan?[/QUOTE]

Stupid question gets a stupid response

[QUOTE=AirBonner;13974072]Stupid question gets a stupid response[/QUOTE]
And most of all, a stupid reaction such as this one.

Sicko. 🙄

[QUOTE=Axe;13974075]And most of all, a stupid reaction such as this one.

Sicko. ��[/QUOTE]

Meltdown

[QUOTE=AirBonner;13974088]Meltdown[/QUOTE]
Cringeworthy you are

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy;13973961]Pippen couldn't score like Kawhi. He had similar skill and fundamentals but never the mentality.[/QUOTE]

he also couldnt shoot like him.

Kawhi has been damn near 50/40/90 at times.

dont think there's ever been a DPOY candidate that can shoot like that. Pippen certainly couldn't, his jumper was dead broke.

[QUOTE=tpols;13974094]he also couldnt shoot like him.

Kawhi has been damn near 50/40/90 at times.

dont think there's ever been a DPOY candidate that can shoot like that. Pippen certainly couldn't, his jumper was dead broke.[/QUOTE]

Nah. From 97-98 Pippen had a pretty decent midrange game. And could shoot the three, albeit with the shortened line. In the late 90s, pull up transition threes were a big part of his game.

He wasn't 50/40/90, and wasn't the overall shooter Kawhi is. Agree there.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;13974019]You gotta put Dwight in there somewhere. I'm not sure I'd slide Kobe in that top 3 in 2011 to be honest. Lebron, Wade, Dirk, Howard IIRC had better campaigns. Kobe may have been like 5th. Rose the MVP at 6.[/QUOTE]

Good point. I can't believe I forgot him! 2011: 1) LeBron 2) Howard 3) Kobe 4) Wade 5) Dirk 6) Rose.

[QUOTE]Nah. From 97-98 Pippen had a pretty decent midrange game. And could shoot the three, albeit with the shortened line. In the late 90s, pull up transition threes were a big part of his game.[/QUOTE]

Plus he had a good post game later in his career.

I can't take any Kawhi stats at face value. Any superstar would have their stats spike if they took 20 games off a year.

What I've always found ironic, is that for all these people that like to poke holes in Pippen for what they perceive as him failing (scoring at the level of Jordan or taking basically the same team minus Jordan to a Championship), will never see that the expectations levied on Pip have never been bestowed upon the players many feel are much better than him. Ewing, Barkley, Wlkins. Hell even Bryant and Shaq had a lot of time and opportunity to fail and get it right. Not literally a season and a half.

It took Shaq almost 10 years to win a title. And he had supremely talented teams. Kobe was a joke as a leader before Gasol came along. Barkely just didnt have it in him. But he had a whole career to try to find it.

And let's not forget. Pip didnt take a year off. That seven and six game game ECSF series vs the Knicks and Magic was the shortest seasons he played over 10 years. Every other year he played in to June or late May.

Theres no doubt that a healthy Pippen stats are much better than what we saw. Why do we penalize him for playing hurt? Not to mention the mental fatigue from having to defend the Championship year after year. And two Olympic appearances as well.

I guess what I'm saying is, why do we have such high expectations on a player that wasnt expected to do that much? But such a low bar on players that failed? Even though they had a lot more opportunities.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13974177]Good point. I can't believe I forgot him! 2011: 1) LeBron 2) Howard 3) Kobe 4) Wade 5) Dirk 6) Rose.



Plus he had a good post game later in his career.

I can't take any Kawhi stats at face value. Any superstar would have their stats spike if they took 20 games off a year.[/QUOTE]
Bruh Kobe was not better than Wade or Dirk in 2011 :lol

[QUOTE=97 bulls;13974178]What I've always found ironic, is that for all these people that like to poke holes in Pippen for what they perceive as him failing (scoring at the level of Jordan or taking basically the same team minus Jordan to a Championship), will never see that the expectations levied on Pip have never been bestowed upon the players many feel are much better than him. Ewing, Barkley, Wlkins. Hell even Bryant and Shaq had a lot of time and opportunity to fail and get it right. Not literally a season and a half.

It took Shaq almost 10 years to win a title. And he had supremely talented teams. Kobe was a joke as a leader before Gasol came along. Barkely just didnt have it in him. But he had a whole career to try to find it.

And let's not forget. Pip didnt take a year off. That seven and six game game ECSF series vs the Knicks and Magic was the shortest seasons he played over 10 years. Every other year he played in to June or late May.

Theres no doubt that a healthy Pippen stats are much better than what we saw. Why do we penalize him for playing hurt? Not to mention the mental fatigue from having to defend the Championship year after year. And two Olympic appearances as well.

I guess what I'm saying is, why do we have such high expectations on a player that wasnt expected to do that much? But such a low bar on players that failed? Even though they had a lot more opportunities.[/QUOTE]

Great post, great thoughts, great questions. I actually dislike Jordan a little less now because of you. 3ball was killing MJ's legacy, you are making MJ great again.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;13974180]Bruh Kobe was not better than Wade or Dirk in 2011 :lol[/QUOTE]

Agreed, Wade in 2011 was the end of his peak and his low peak is better than Kobe's low peak.

[QUOTE=Rico2016;13974184]Great post, great thoughts, great questions. I actually dislike Jordan a little less now because of you. 3ball was killing MJ's legacy, you are making MJ great again.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Bro. I just dint get it. I mean, how many NBA players and coaches are needed to actually acknowledge Pips greatness?

What is Rodman gonna get for calling Pip the second best player? Or Kerr. Or all the GMs?

Or Jordan for that matter. I mean, we dont know him personally, but if he really believed Scottie Pippen was a scrub that he had to carry night in and out, do you think he'd be singing his praises today?

DAMN. First Scottie says LeBron was the GOAT and now Rodman saying the Pippen was the best in 93/94/95

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Just to add on as to What Jackson said Jordan felt about Pip during the 92 Olympics. Here is Chuck Dalys quote
I remember talking to the late Chuck Daly after that 1992 Dream Team and Daly raving about Pippen. Daly said he knew Pippen was a potential MVP candidate type player, but said Pippen was the best player on the 1992 team. “I know Michael’s the best player, but Pippen was the best player on that team,” admired Daly.
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/bulls/history/pippenhof_smith_100812.html[/url]

Now again, I ask. What benefit did Daly have by saying that? Mind you, his own player Isiah Thomas was blackballed off that team.

Heres what it boils down to. As far as stats? Pippen was solid. But impact and winning? Very few did it better.

It's why Russell was always ranked higher than Chamberlain.

I honestly feel that had Pippen been a little more selfish and maybe payed more attention to his stats as opposed to winning, he'd be respected by all of these people on here that knock him.

Russell was definitely a good team leader during his days.

[QUOTE=tpols;13974094]he also couldnt shoot like him.

Kawhi has been damn near 50/40/90 at times.

dont think there's ever been a DPOY candidate that can shoot like that. Pippen certainly couldn't, [B]his jumper was dead broke.[/B][/QUOTE]
He was famous for his bankshot. If you watched him you would know that his shooting ability was fine, especially for his era. The three wasn't mandatory back then. All of the best scorers did their damage on twos.