[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14165278]So if it's such a tight race, why isn't Biden out campaigning?[/QUOTE]
He literally has the whole New Democrats doing it for him right now.
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14165278]So if it's such a tight race, why isn't Biden out campaigning?[/QUOTE]
He literally has the whole New Democrats doing it for him right now.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14165072]Here's the subpoena as provided by the NY Post in their story when they first broke it.
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[URL="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-computer-repair-store-owner-john-paul-mac-isaac"]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-computer-repair-store-owner-john-paul-mac-isaac[/URL][/QUOTE]
That image shows nothing.. It could be a subpoena for anything. How do you know it's for the laptop and hunter Biden case? There is nothing to mark what the subpoena is concerning..
[QUOTE=CelticBaller;14165180]Guliani just said "it doesn't matter if Hunter Biden's story isnt accurate"....
Do what ever you want with that comment[/QUOTE]
Did he really say that?? If he had something, he & Republican party would be screaming on top of building roofs and going absolutely bonkers. It ABSOLUTELY matters if the story is accurate and he wouldn't wait until few days before election day to release it.. I'm going to wait on the veracity of this so called trove. I would also need evidence that Biden knew or was involved in the schemes. Without that sort of evidence, it doesn't change anything.
[QUOTE=CelticBaller;14165266]Economically? Biden is more center right. Socially? Idk if the guy who supported *** rights is right wing[/QUOTE]
Economic shit is what matters most. You can support gay rights and be right wing btw.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14165263]Yes and you're like jesus bro.[/QUOTE]
Politically? Probably fairly similar yeah. I’m not a leader or charismatic like him and I’ll never influence the world like he did. But I think he’d respect my politics a lot.
[QUOTE=bladefd;14165287]That image shows nothing.. It could be a subpoena for anything. How do you know it's for the laptop and hunter Biden case? There is nothing to mark what the subpoena is concerning..[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, it could be a subpoena to literally anyone unless Hunter Biden's name is officially on it. And the more time passes, the more I'll call bullshit on it because people are voting right now in massive numbers, if they have proof of the Biden's wrongdoings, they need to release them now.
Meanwhile, the NYT just broke a story on Trump having Chinese bank accounts worth millions of dollars :lol
They are all corrupt...
[QUOTE=TheMan;14165303]Absolutely, it could be a subpoena to literally anyone unless Hunter Biden's name is officially on it. And the more time passes, the more I'll call bullshit on it because people are voting right now in massive numbers, if they have proof of the Biden's wrongdoings, they need to release them now.
Meanwhile, the NYT just broke a story on Trump having Chinese bank accounts worth millions of dollars :lol
They are all corrupt...[/QUOTE]
Trumpeters don't have much ground to stand on. "Your guy may be corrupt so vote for my corrupt guy."
[QUOTE=ItsMillerTime;14165167]This is embarrassing now. QAnon and conspiracy theorists make up the majority of Trump's base and people like OP are legitimately crazy.[/QUOTE]
They can somehow believe that Trump has proof that Hunter Biden did pedophilia with details down to a tenth of an inch on the size of his **** and yet somehow no one gets arrested while Trump is calling for the arrests pf the Bidens Obamas and Clintons several times every day.
Here's the real conspiracy for all of you: if Trump loses the Electoral College vote he won't drop his lawsuits until Biden agrees to keep his future justice department from prosecuting him for anything. At which point he will go live out his days hiding in his Scotland golf course.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14165296]Politically? Probably fairly similar yeah. I’m not a leader or charismatic like him and I’ll never influence the world like he did. But I think he’d respect my politics a lot.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheMan;14165303]Absolutely, it could be a subpoena to literally anyone unless Hunter Biden's name is officially on it. And the more time passes, the more I'll call bullshit on it because people are voting right now in massive numbers, if they have proof of the Biden's wrongdoings, they need to release them now.
Meanwhile, the NYT just broke a story on Trump having Chinese bank accounts worth millions of dollars :lol
They are all corrupt...[/QUOTE]
The subpoena is posted as part of the NY Post story and Hunter's name wouldn't be on it, because it's for a laptop in the possession of the repair store owner. The tweet that had the analysis of the backside writing, which per Business Insider, did appear to figure the name of Joshua Wilson, but it's since been removed in the Twitter information purge that happened when the first emails were published.
So just to be clear what you guys are saying here:
There's a conspiracy between the sitting President, the former Mayor of New York, Steve Bannon, a Chinese anti CCP insider streamer, a Mac repair shop owner and billionaire media mogul Rupert Murdoch to take down the leading presidential candidate based on fake information from the Russian GRU?
[QUOTE=bladefd;14165291]Did he really say that?? If he had something, he & Republican party would be screaming on top of building roofs and going absolutely bonkers. It ABSOLUTELY matters if the story is accurate and he wouldn't wait until few days before election day to release it.. I'm going to wait on the veracity of this so called trove. I would also need evidence that Biden knew or was involved in the schemes. Without that sort of evidence, it doesn't change anything.[/QUOTE]
[EMAIL="https://www.thedailybeast.com/giuliani-says-even-if-hunter-laptop-story-isnt-accurate-americans-are-entitled-to-know-it"]https://www.thedailybeast.com/giuliani-says-even-if-hunter-laptop-story-isnt-accurate-americans-are-entitled-to-know-it[/EMAIL]
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14165325]The subpoena is posted as part of the NY Post story and Hunter's name wouldn't be on it, because it's for a laptop in the possession of the repair store owner. The tweet that had the analysis of the backside writing, which per Business Insider, did appear to figure the name of Joshua Wilson, but it's since been removed in the Twitter information purge that happened when the first emails were published.
So just to be clear what you guys are saying here:
There's a conspiracy between the sitting President, the former Mayor of New York, Steve Bannon, a Chinese anti CCP insider streamer, a Mac repair shop owner and billionaire media mogul Rupert Murdoch to take down the leading presidential candidate based on fake information from the Russian GRU?[/QUOTE]
No one is saying anything except show the evidence. The ones claiming are the people you listed. If you claim something, I require VERIFIED evidence to back it up (not someone's tweets or some Chinese streamer making/hyping up a hundred different claims or Qanon members yelling into the wind).
[QUOTE=bladefd;14165341]No one is saying anything except show the evidence. The ones claiming are the people you listed. If you claim something, I require VERIFIED evidence to back it up (not someone's tweets or some Chinese streamer making/hyping up a hundred different claims or Qanon members yelling into the wind).[/QUOTE]
You weren't saying this when Trump was accused of colluding with the Russians to steal this election. In fact, you were certain he had.
There is also history behind Trumpeters making crazy claims. Remember the "Hillary runs a pedophilia ring out of the pizza shop" bs in 2016 and the Seth Richie stuff concerning the emails? This is a picture we already saw in 2016 so excuse us for being wary of anything coming out of Trump campaign this time without any firm verified evidence.
[QUOTE=bladefd;14165341]No one is saying anything except show the evidence. The ones claiming are the people you listed. If you claim something, I require VERIFIED evidence to back it up (not someone's tweets or some Chinese streamer making/hyping up a hundred different claims or Qanon members yelling into the wind).[/QUOTE]
The emails and text messages have been posted in stories by the NY Post, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch and obviously approved by him and his lawyers.
Do you think they're posting the subpoena as part of their story if it doesn't say what they claim?
If that's the case, they're going to be in for such a huge lawsuit and possible time in jail when Biden wins the election.
Bannon has been on the air saying that he wants the democrats to come out and claim it as fake, because then they can make them look worse by presenting more proof after, for example an email from the Biden lawyer to the repair man, asking for the laptop back. It's the same as they did 4 years ago with Podesta's emails. But focus on the NY Post and Rupert Murdoch part of my post please, I have a feeling you're going to try and refer to the thing about Bannon, which I'm just including as one of the reasons as to why they don't let everything go at once.
If you claim that the story isn't true, then the counter of the story or some version must be true, and that is a conspiracy between the sitting President, the former Mayor of New York, Steve Bannon, a Chinese anti CCP insider streamer, a Macbook repair shop owner and billionaire media mogul Rupert Murdoch to take down the leading presidential candidate based on fake information from the Russian GRU.
Or maybe they tricked Murdoch and his lawyers into believing that the fake emails were real?
[QUOTE=bladefd;14165351]There is also history behind Trumpeters making crazy claims. Remember the "Hillary runs a pedophilia ring out of the pizza shop" bs in 2016 and the Seth Richie stuff concerning the emails? This is a picture we already saw in 2016 so excuse us for being wary of anything coming out of Trump campaign this time without any firm verified evidence.[/QUOTE]
What history? That person wasn't a "Trumpeter". And what other claims have been made by "Trumpeters"? You can't even come up with a legitimate one.
Nothing like you guys though:
Russian collusion
Election Interference
Treason
Quid Pro Quo
Rapist
Russian Asset/Russian Plant
The list goes on and on. And yet....nothing. You seriously need to give up.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14165343]You weren't saying this when Trump was accused of colluding with the Russians to steal this election. In fact, you were certain he had.[/QUOTE]
"RUSSIA, if you are listening, hack the DNC s emails!" then they hack on the very same day just hours later. Oh and Trump publicly believing Putin over his own intelligence agencies. How about the Trump towers in Moscow documents that Trump lied about? The" adoptions" meeting with Russian lawyer/agent in Trump tower, which Trump, his son and others all lied about? Roger Stones involvement/contact with Russian agent that Trump & others around him also lied about not knowing. I would also like to see his taxes to see if he owes money to Russian oligarchs but he has refused to release the tax returns. What else am I forgetting??
The signs were all there to investigate further.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14165355]The emails and text messages have been posted in stories by the NY Post, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch and obviously approved by him and his lawyers.
Do you think they're posting the subpoena as part of their story if it doesn't say what they claim?
If that's the case, they're going to be in for such a huge lawsuit and possible time in jail when Biden wins the election.
Bannon has been on the air saying that he wants the democrats to come out and claim it as fake, because then they can make them look worse by presenting more proof after - the same as they did 4 years ago with Podesta's emails. But focus on the NY Post and Rupert Murdoch part of my post please, I have a feeling you're going to try and refer to the thing about Bannon, which I'm just including as one of the reasons as to why they don't let everything go at once.
If you claim that the story isn't true, then the counter of the story must be true, and that is a conspiracy between the sitting President, the former Mayor of New York, Steve Bannon, a Chinese anti CCP insider streamer, a Macbook repair shop owner and billionaire media mogul Rupert Murdoch to take down the leading presidential candidate based on fake information from the Russian GRU.[/QUOTE]
Everyone knows nothing is going to happen to them or anyone if it turns out to be bs.
Isn't Bannon going to jail for fraud concerning the Trump wall money he stole?
Ok, tell the fbi/doj to start an investigation. Trump is the president. He can ask doj to investigate. Why hasn't he if this is all so obvious and proven?
I'm not claiming the story is fake. You are claiming the story is true so I'm asking for proof that Joe Biden was involved..
There is history behind Trumpeters making crazy claims. Remember the "Hillary runs a pedophilia ring out of the pizza shop" bs in 2016 and the Seth Richie stuff concerning the emails? This is a picture we already saw in 2016 so excuse us for being wary of anything coming out of Trump campaign this time without any firm verified evidence.
Just to be clear, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Hunter used his position as the VP's son to get rich, tbh I expect that to be the case...these people are all corrupt, every last one of them, Trump family using their position to enrich themselves rn. The Obamas are now very rich, how did that happen? GWB and his illegal wars, Haliburton, the billions of dollars that went missing during those wars, the Clintons and their Clinton Foundation scams etc etc...
My problem is with the over the top pedophilia claims, seems like a reach by Trump's supporters aware that corruption charges won't move the needle too much considering their guy is the personification of corruption, so let's throw in something so devious like pedophilia into the mix! That's the part I have a hard time believing until clear unequivocal evidence is presented, forget the internet rumblings, tweets and innuendos.
Give me 100% certifiable proof...until then, it's a political hatchet job.
[QUOTE=bladefd;14165374]Everyone knows nothing is going to happen to them or anyone if it turns out to be bs.
Isn't Bannon going to jail for fraud concerning the Trump wall money he stole?
Ok, tell the fbi/doj to start an investigation. Trump is the president. He can ask doj to investigate. Why hasn't he if this is all so obvious and proven?
I'm not claiming the story is fake. You are claiming the story is true so I'm asking for proof that Joe Biden was involved..
There is history behind Trumpeters making crazy claims. Remember the "Hillary runs a pedophilia ring out of the pizza shop" bs in 2016 and the Seth Richie stuff concerning the emails? This is a picture we already saw in 2016 so excuse us for being wary of anything coming out of Trump campaign this time without any firm verified evidence.[/QUOTE]
If there aren't any pictures of underage girls on the HD, Hunter Biden could sue their ass into oblivion for slander.
I think you're misunderstanding the communication flows here.
You're talking about Trump supporters making crazy claims about pedo stuff and a potential assassination, something that's usually derived on 4chan, but have you ever heard that stuff from the President or his campaign?
Right now, the Trump campaign has claimed publicly that Biden is likely compromised by the CCP and an investigation needs to happen, and it's based on information from a story that's running in the NY Post. This is not corner of the internet stuff, this is very public and with major public players involved.
And I'm not claiming the story as true, but I am questioning everything about the counter claims, because Joe won't go public and say it isn't true and Hunter no one knows where he is, he could have flipped by now for all we know.
You need to read my OP again, I'm literally asking what people think the odds are on different stories being true.
9.5 inches? we knew the bidens were hiding something.
Sounds to me like the ball has been passed to the New Castle Police.
it's their case now...
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let's just wait and see if they do anything about this evidence they've supposedly received.
[QUOTE=TheMan;14165375]Just to be clear, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Hunter used his position as the VP's son to get rich, tbh I expect that to be the case...these people are all corrupt, every last one of them, Trump family using their position to enrich themselves rn. The Obamas are now very rich, how did that happen? GWB and his illegal wars, Haliburton, the billions of dollars that went missing during those wars, the Clintons and their Clinton Foundation scams etc etc...
My problem is with the over the top pedophilia claims, [B]seems like a reach by Trump's supporters aware that corruption charges won't move the needle too much considering their guy is the personification of corruption, so let's throw in something so devious like pedophilia into the mix[/B]! That's the part I have a hard time believing until clear unequivocal evidence is presented, forget the internet rumblings, tweets and innuendos.
Give me 100% certifiable proof...until then, it's a political hatchet job.[/QUOTE]
It's not new. Remember "Hillary runs a pedophilia ring out of the pizzashop" nonsense in 2016? We were just expected to believe it. I'm still waiting for evidence of that :oldlol:
[QUOTE=bladefd;14165538]It's not new. Remember "Hillary runs a pedophilia ring out of the pizzashop" nonsense in 2016? We were just expected to believe it. I'm still waiting for evidence of that :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I don't think that's how the theory actually went, it actually centered around John and Tony Podesta IIRC, but I see your point.
How about the story that someone had heard from someone else, how they had heard there was a tape where Trump said the N word.
At one point he was controlled by Bannon, but then later it became Putin, as in people literally claimed Trump was a Russian agent.
[QUOTE=bladefd;14165538]It's not new. Remember "Hillary runs a pedophilia ring out of the pizzashop" nonsense in 2016? We were just expected to believe it. I'm still waiting for evidence of that :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
2016? qanon still believes that shit to this day.
If its not true, then why hasnt the Biden campaign disputed the authenticity of the data? Its been almost a week since the first nypost article was published, and Biden has basically spent the week hiding in his basement and refusing to comment.
Also, gotta love the simpletons who still believe in nonsense propaganda like the thoroughly debunked russiagate hoax posting hilariously ironic comments like this
[QUOTE=CelticBaller;14165039]You guys believe everything that you see on the internet[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/"]https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/[/URL]
[I]My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.
This afternoon I received a request from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and the Senate Committee on Finance requesting all documents relating to my business affairs with the Biden family as well as various foreign entities and individuals. I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future. [/I]
[I]What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. [B]I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to “the Big Guy” in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other “JB” referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.[/B]
[B]Hunter Biden called his dad ‘the Big Guy’ or ‘my Chairman,’ and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.[/B][/I]
[I]I realized [B]the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese[/B], I took steps to prevent that from happening.
The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me — it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn’t and wouldn’t do that to their partners.[/I]
ouch. dagger in the heart.
[QUOTE=bobopenguin;14165874][URL="https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/"]https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/[/URL]
[I]My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.
This afternoon I received a request from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and the Senate Committee on Finance requesting all documents relating to my business affairs with the Biden family as well as various foreign entities and individuals. I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future. [/I]
[I]What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. [B]I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to “the Big Guy” in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other “JB” referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.[/B]
[B]Hunter Biden called his dad ‘the Big Guy’ or ‘my Chairman,’ and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.[/B][/I]
[I]I realized [B]the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese[/B], I took steps to prevent that from happening.
The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me — it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn’t and wouldn’t do that to their partners.[/I]
ouch. dagger in the heart.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I'm glad it's coming out.
Doesn't our actively sitting President have a secret bank account in China? And he's actually paid the communist regime of China more in taxes than he has the US?
Why aren't you mouth-breathing conspiracy types talking about that?
[QUOTE=ItsMillerTime;14165917]Doesn't our actively sitting President have a secret bank account in China? And he's actually paid the communist regime of China more in taxes than he has the US?
Why aren't you mouth-breathing conspiracy types talking about that?[/QUOTE]
Can you explain what's secret about it and how it pertains to corruption? It sounds like a regular business account, used to pay taxes and conduct business in a foreign country.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14165918]Can you explain what's secret about it and how it pertains to corruption? It sounds like a regular business account, used to pay taxes and conduct business in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]
A valid point: it was a secret but is not any longer. Also valid: we don't know what may be corrupt about it... because he keeps his taxes secret, ther only major presidential candidate to do so in decades. His excuse for that is the completely invalid line that he is under audit. He is suspect in the extreme.
[QUOTE=ItsMillerTime;14165917]Doesn't our actively sitting President have a secret bank account in China? And he's actually paid the communist regime of China more in taxes than he has the US?
Why aren't you mouth-breathing conspiracy types talking about that?[/QUOTE]
If I was a mayo brained lib, the obvious response to this post would be screeching that its a "whataboutism"... but since I am not that type of person I will debunk your comment directly.
The bank account in question is operated by the "Trump International Hotels Management" LLC, and there is nothing secret about it. The 188k in "tax" payments that were paid out of this account occurred between 2013-2015 and were charges associated with licensing deals that Trump Hotels was pursuing in China at the time.
Anyway, if you have a problem with the fact that one of Trumps businesses paid 188k in taxes to China between 2013 and 2015, while he paid only $750 in personal federal income tax to the US in 2017...perhaps you should take that up with the people who wrote the US tax rules that allow oligarchs like Trump to pay so little - our congress.
[QUOTE=Nanners;14165929]Anyway, if you have a problem with the fact that one of Trumps businesses paid 188k in taxes to China between 2013 and 2015, while he paid only $750 in personal federal income tax to the US in 2017...perhaps you should take that up with the people who wrote the US tax rules that allow oligarchs like Trump to pay so little - our congress.[/QUOTE]
But I thought Trump went to Washington to drain the swamp? Can you tell me when that's supposed to happen?
Wait, so international businesses having international bank accounts is illegal or 'swamp'? Last I checked Trump International Hotels Management is based in the US.
It is literally the opposite of outsourcing- branching out to other countries to pull revenue within the states.
Of course the LEFT would have a problem with that.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14165926]A valid point: it was a secret but is not any longer. Also valid: we don't know what may be corrupt about it... because he keeps his taxes secret, ther only major presidential candidate to do so in decades. His excuse for that is the completely invalid line that he is under audit. He is suspect in the extreme.[/QUOTE]
If you think corruption necessarily shows up on Joe's, Trump or anyone's tax sheets, you're a bit behind he curve. Hunter and James Biden being the bagmen, they were the one's responsible for paying a lot of stuff for the whole family, an example would be Hunter paying for college tuition for his sister instead of Joe and Jill as the parents.
Also, off shore accounting(Panama papers), laws have been put in place so it's not illegal for elites to move money into tax havens.
I believe more than $5 million has been paid in taxes in China from the account you describe, which is the duty of a person doing business there.
I don't even know what you're trying to insinuate, that Trump is somehow involved with corruption through paying $5 million in taxes? Do you feel he's been working with China on policy making it favorable for them when it shouldn't be? The Chinese were in on it when Trump put tariffs and everyone in the US media screamed at how bad a move that is?
You need something more than just a "secret account" in a country where Trump has conducted company business.
I wouldn't have a problem with Hunter Biden having a Chinese bank account, but what I do have a problem is that he went there with Joe, who did amazingly poor in policy discussions, while the Hunter group came away with a deal that secured him, his partners and the Biden family a 50% stake of an investment company that was funded with $1.5 billion all coming from a Chinese energy company, which was part of the CCP.
One of Hunter's former business partners has confirmed now, that the 10% share of that 50% going to the US side of the company, was indeed for "the big guy" Joe Biden. That means $75 million dollar in value for Joe right off the bat the moment the company was registered and funded, and a total of $750 million in value for Hunter, the business partners, Joe and the rest of the family. And that's just on one deal! There are other CCP deals as well, there's Burisma, there's Iraq, there's Kazakhstan..
And not long after the Biden's got their $750 million dollar share in said company, radar technology was approved to be sold to China.
Listen to him here, introducing his partners to the White House, basically describing an alliance with China and the CCP(also as a bonus, you can notice how coherent and balanced he is in the way he talks compared to today).
"A rising and peaceful China is a positive development in the world" were his words after he came back...
[video=youtube_share;66-Ev5wpdPg]https://youtu.be/66-Ev5wpdPg?t=571[/video]
[QUOTE=rawimpact;14165934]Wait, so international businesses having international bank accounts is illegal or 'swamp'? Last I checked Trump International Hotels Management is based in the US.
It is literally the opposite of outsourcing- branching out to other countries to pull revenue within the states.
Of course the LEFT would have a problem with that.[/QUOTE]
Why hasn't Trump released his taxes? What is he hiding? If the New York Times had to do this much digging, imagine what else is out there.
Or just continue sticking your head in the sand and blaming the LEFT for everything. I don't really give a shit.
[QUOTE=ItsMillerTime;14165945]Why hasn't Trump released his taxes? What is he hiding? If the New York Times had to do this much digging, imagine what else is out there.
Or just continue sticking your head in the sand and blaming the LEFT for everything. I don't really give a shit.[/QUOTE]
Non disclosure of taxes = corruption
Mask = safety from covid
They're raw dogging you in the information battle my man, but keep on supporting people who's killed millions of people around the world for profit. When it comes to corruption, a vote for Biden is the same as a vote for Bush.
And to answer your question, he's probably hiding information about money made in various countries, which for some reason you'll say he was not allowed to make as a businessman, because he's now President - Yes I know it sound weird, but that's the connection you'll make.
[QUOTE=ItsMillerTime;14165932]But I thought Trump went to Washington to drain the swamp? Can you tell me when that's supposed to happen?[/QUOTE]
It will probably happen sometime after Obama fulfills his promises about closing guantanamo, or his promise to require his armed forces to adhere to the geneva conventions
Anyway, Its funny that you think that "drain the swamp" means something along the lines of "wave the president wand and magically replace any members of congress who wrote tax laws that benefit billionaires"... how exactly is Trump supposed to drain congress? Also, the tax rules for the 2017 filing where Trump paid $750 were established prior to his election, so you can thank the Obama admin for that.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14165937]If you think corruption necessarily shows up on Joe's, Trump or anyone's tax sheets, you're a bit behind he curve. Hunter and James Biden being the bagmen, they were the one's responsible for paying a lot of stuff for the whole family, an example would be Hunter paying for college tuition for his sister instead of Joe and Jill as the parents.
Also, off shore accounting(Panama papers), laws have been put in place so it's not illegal for elites to move money into tax havens.
I believe more than $5 million has been paid in taxes in China from the account you describe, which is the duty of a person doing business there.
I don't even know what you're trying to insinuate, that Trump is somehow involved with corruption through paying $5 million in taxes? Do you feel he's been working with China on policy making it favorable for them when it shouldn't be? The Chinese were in on it when Trump put tariffs and everyone in the US media screamed at how bad a move that is?
You need something more than just a "secret account" in a country where Trump has conducted company business.
I wouldn't have a problem with Hunter Biden having a Chinese bank account, but what I do have a problem is that he went there with Joe, who did amazingly poor in policy discussions, while the Hunter group came away with a deal that secured him, his partners and the Biden family a 50% stake of an investment company that was funded with $1.5 billion all coming from a Chinese energy company, which was part of the CCP.
One of Hunter's former business partners has confirmed now, that the 10% share of that 50% going to the US side of the company, was indeed for "the big guy" Joe Biden. That means $75 million dollar in value for Joe right off the bat the moment the company was registered and funded, and a total of $750 million in value for Hunter, the business partners, Joe and the rest of the family. And that's just on one deal! There are other CCP deals as well, there's Burisma, there's Iraq, there's Kazakhstan..
And not long after the Biden's got their $750 million dollar share in said company, radar technology was approved to be sold to China.
Listen to him here, introducing his partners to the White House, basically describing an alliance with China and the CCP(also as a bonus, you can notice how coherent and balanced he is in the way he talks compared to today).
"A rising and peaceful China is a positive development in the world" were his words after he came back...
[video=youtube_share;66-Ev5wpdPg]https://youtu.be/66-Ev5wpdPg?t=571[/video][/QUOTE]So tax records that could show where President is getting his money from while he deals with foreign and domestic powers that could get billions out of a good relationship with a President are not important because the VP before him is suspect? I'm not going to defend Biden beyond pointing ot that if everything you're claiming and Trump claims is verifiable it's funny that Trump's justice department is leaving him alone. And Idon't get why you are sure Trump is innocent when he owes 400 mil and won't say who he owes it to. Lies claiming he can't show his taxes over an audit when that has been repeatedly debunked. Taxes show who is giving you the money. If all of Trump's cash is coming from his casinos golf courses and licensing agreements then why won't he show that? The guy that pays out millions over Trump University is not trustworthy. I would be shocked if you can find anything like that on Bidens resume yet you're willing to assume the worst over allegations that have been unproven with Trumps own justice department letting Biden roam free.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14165968]So tax records that could show where President is getting his money from while he deals with foreign and domestic powers that could get billions out of a good relationship with a President are not important because the VP before him is suspect? I'm not going to defend Biden beyond pointing ot that if everything you're claiming and Trump claims is verifiable it's funny that Trump's justice department is leaving him alone. And Idon't get why you are sure Trump is innocent when he owes 400 mil and won't say who he owes it to. Lies claiming he can't show his taxes over an audit when that has been repeatedly debunked. Taxes show who is giving you the money. If all of Trump's cash is coming from his casinos golf courses and licensing agreements then why won't he show that? The guy that pays out millions over Trump University is not trustworthy. I would be shocked if you can find anything like that on Bidens resume yet you're willing to assume the worst over allegations that have been unproven with Trumps own justice department letting Biden roam free.[/QUOTE]
Obviously I can't say for certain that Trump hasn't cut some sort of deal and I have seen the conspiracy theory that he's paid by Russian oligarchs and thereby extension of Putin.