In today's NBA, I won't draft a shooting guard with questionable 3-point shooting

[QUOTE]He wouldn't be anywhere close to one of the best but like bron and luka he'd certainly be good enough.[/QUOTE]

Probably, if he wanted to take threes. Why do you think he took so few threes when he actually played?

Drexler, Pippen, Payton all became 5-6 3PA guys later in their careers. Jordan didn't.

I can give you a ton of really good SG from this era that aren't very good at shooting 3's. Wade, Butler, Derozan...

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14169550]Probably, if he wanted to take threes. Why do you think he took so few threes when he actually played?

Drexler, Pippen, Payton all became 5-6 3PA guys later in their careers. Jordan didn't.[/QUOTE]

Well afain teams were only shooting 6-8 for most of mj's career. It was just a different era. As far as mj compared to those guys i dont know. Im pretty sure their 3pt attempts all went up during the shortened line period from 94-97. With the exception of gp they were all towards the decline of there career and had no choice to settle for a few more threes. Mj didnt have to. He transitioned his game later in his career to play in the post more. Pip and Drexler offense were alot more limited than mj.

[QUOTE=dankok8;14169553]I can give you a ton of really good SG from this era that aren't very good at shooting 3's. Wade, Butler, Derozan...[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That's why the MJ hysteria makes no sense. If those guys succeeded, surely MJ would.

I interpreted the OP to be talking about this year's draft and future drafts. You take Wade or Butler #1 this year (if you knew what they would ultimately become) and build around them to mitigate their weaknesses. That doesn't mean you take JJ Redick of Butler because Reddick shoots.

Those players are exceptions, though. Wade is top 25 all-time and Butler, DeRozan are multiple time all-NBA players. How many players of that level are in a draft? Wade's level? Top 25 all-time so once every 3 years or so on average. Multiple time all-NBA? What, 2-3 guys in a typical draft? If you are a regular starter or bench player and are a SG who can't shoot in today's NBA you are in trouble and need some other big strengths to offset it.

[QUOTE]Well afain teams were only shooting 6-8 for most of mj's career. It was just a different era. As far as mj compared to those guys i dont know. Im pretty sure their 3pt attempts all went up during the shortened line period from 94-97. With the exception of gp they were all towards the decline of there career and had no choice to settle for a few more threes. Mj didnt have to. He transitioned his game later in his career to play in the post more. Pip and Drexler offense were alot more limited than mj.[/QUOTE]

Pippen did it so he could be a threat from anywhere on the court at any time, which is one reason he did it a lot in transition to throw off defenders. He was in his peak when he started shooting threes. Drexler was in decline, Payton was in his prime.

Jordan was already so lethal he didn't "need" it but neither did Kobe, right?

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14169558]Exactly. That's why the MJ hysteria makes no sense. If those guys succeeded, surely MJ would.

I interpreted the OP to be talking about this year's draft and future drafts. You take Wade or Butler #1 this year (if you knew what they would ultimately become) and build around them to mitigate their weaknesses. That doesn't mean you take JJ Redick of Butler because Reddick shoots.

Those players are exceptions, though. Wade is top 25 all-time and Butler, DeRozan are multiple time all-NBA players. How many players of that level are in a draft? Wade's level? Top 25 all-time so once every 3 years or so on average. Multiple time all-NBA? What, 2-3 guys in a typical draft? If you are a regular starter or bench player and are a SG who can't shoot in today's NBA you are in trouble and need some other big strengths to offset it.



Pippen did it so he could be a threat from anywhere on the court at any time, which is one reason he did it a lot in transition to throw off defenders. He was in his peak when he started shooting threes. Drexler was in decline, Payton was in his prime.

Jordan was already so lethal he didn't "need" it but neither did Kobe, right?[/QUOTE]

Kobe didnt need it as much but he also came up after mj and in a time where the 3 ball was significantly increasing. When he came in in 97 threes have already double since mj's days. 10 years into his career 3's were being shot 3 times more than mj's days. Its only natural kobe would shoot more also. Plus its not like he shot that many anyway. He only averaged 4 a game for his career.