So California has mandatory lockdowns, mask wearing, and closures

You do know that there are plenty of people not following these mandatory lockdowns and masks right?

Tennessee had no laws and they were the worst with this.

[QUOTE=imdaman99;14213576]You do know that there are plenty of people not following these mandatory lockdowns and masks right?

Tennessee had no laws and they were the worst with this.[/QUOTE]

Ok, so if Tennessee was the "worst with this" and they're #24 (of 50) on Covid-19 deaths/capita in the US by state. What does that tell you?

[QUOTE=Cleverness;14213285]So for exactly 1 month we will shut down pharmacies, nursing homes, elderly care facilities, veterinarians, airplanes, airports, buses, dentists, hospitals, contact tracers, administrators, urgent care centers, doctor offices, cancer screenings, roads, everyone in the energy sector, fire dept, ambulances, plumbing, waste disposal, public transportation, dept of defense, police, CIA, FBI, NSA, DEA, ATF, ICE, grocery stores, agriculture, suppliers, transporters, distributors, warehouses, IT, mfg of medical supplies, medical supply stores, banks, nuclear facilities, Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, ... you serious Clark?

Oh, and how will you enforce stopping 330 million people from interacting with each other? Will there be drones outside of everyone's house making sure they don't visit their neighbor or heaven forbid help their grandma around the house? Remember, the contact tracers think roughly 75% of transmission occurs within homes.[/QUOTE]

Still interested in HylianNightmare's thoughts.

[QUOTE=Cleverness;14213289]Oh really, Japan did a full lockdown every time their cases rose? Cambodia? Kenya? Nope. Not even locked down as much as California, lol.

And as for your lockdown idea, read my post above.

There were at least a million infections in the US by end of March 2020. This wasn't going to be stopped and every scientist knew it. That's why the consensus was NOT to do lockdowns and we needed to ramp up hospital capacity because we would have roughly 10 million to 48 million hospitalizations. Luckily we haven't even hit 1 million with a rate less than seasonal flu, so none of it was needed in the first place.

[url]https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192[/url][/QUOTE]

And n00bie's.

Death to the police state of California! Lynch all of the political leaders in California!


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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14217106]Death to the police state of California! Lynch all of the political leaders in California!


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You do realize people have gotten arrested for threatening online to kill people, right?

I hate when people say people arent listening thats why we have high case counts. Everywhere I go I see people with face masks my job has a mask requirement. Walmart, costco and food 4 less everywhere is mask requirement. Tired of this shit. Then they say because people are still partying like what the fck you expect its been 9 months on fvcking lockdown and it gets worse and worse .

[QUOTE=bladefd;14217137]You do realize people have gotten arrested for threatening online to kill people, right?[/QUOTE]


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Why do you support the Police State? The gestapo? Why are you a Nazi sympathizer?

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[QUOTE=Brujesino;14217141]I hate when people say people arent listening thats why we have high case counts. Everywhere I go I see people with face masks my job has a mask requirement. Walmart, costco and food 4 less everywhere is mask requirement. Tired of this shit. Then they say because people are still partying like what the fck you expect its been 9 months on fvcking lockdown and it gets worse and worse .[/QUOTE]

Same. Been wearing a mask 40-50 hours/wk since late March / early April. It's about 95% compliance in public places in CA, just as the polls would suggest. I was at a national park in CA recently and I think ~90%+ had masks on... outside, hiking/biking.. no joke

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14212740][video=youtube_share;r3OLH6pG1Cw]https://youtu.be/r3OLH6pG1Cw[/video][/QUOTE]

Literally communism.


Forcing people out of work so they have nothing. This is going to destroy the middle class entirely. Elite billionaires in full control.

Democrats, Zuck, Gates, Dorsey, Bezos... They own you and don't you for get it.

Communist take over.

[QUOTE=KennyPowers;14217193]Literally communism.


Forcing people out of work so they have nothing. This is going to destroy the middle class entirely. Elite billionaires in full control.

Democrats, Zuck, Gates, Dorsey, Bezos... They own you and don't you for get it.

Communist take over.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much. Trillions being transferred to the ruling class, small businesses liquidated, massive control over people by gov't, freedom is "selfish", etc

[url]https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1338117595887767552.html[/url]

So with everyone wearing masks you have zero cases now?
Cause according to all the “experts” they work right?:lol

[QUOTE=bladefd;14217137]You do realize people have gotten arrested for threatening online to kill people, right?[/QUOTE]

I have already alerted the authorities about him for saying similar things in the past. I'm sure they are keeping an eye on him.

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Oh, we know.

I dont know why everyones complaining. There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217384]I dont know why everyones complaining. [B]There were only 2 [/b][B]options[/B] and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?[/QUOTE]


:lol

"When a mild respiratory illness comes around that won't impact the vast majority of society, [I]there are only two options...[/I]"

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217384]I dont know why everyones complaining. There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?[/QUOTE]

Coulda chose to wear hazmat suits.

Coulda chose no lockdowns.

Coulda chose no masks.

Coulda rocketed people into Space Jam to start New America on Mars.

Coulda had a hunger games style tournament while also surviving the corona to see who is worthy of being Highlanders

Many of options friendo.

[QUOTE=KennyPowers;14217571]Coulda chose to wear hazmat suits.

Coulda chose no lockdowns.

Coulda chose no masks.

Coulda rocketed people into Space Jam to start New America on Mars.

Coulda had a hunger games style tournament while also surviving the corona to see who is worthy of being Highlanders

Many of options friendo.[/QUOTE]

Our countries are government run. They make the rules and there isnt anything we can do about it.

We always knew there were only 2 options.

You can live in your fantasy world where we can all do what we want, but unfortunately this is real life.

I want free money. Does that mean the government will give it to me?

[QUOTE=PANTHALASSA;14217415]:lol

"When a mild respiratory illness comes around that won't impact the vast majority of society, [I]there are only two options...[/I]"[/QUOTE]

This is the world we live in. Deal with it or move into one of those 3rd world countries where Cleverness claims has no covid.

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217590]This is the world we live in. Deal with it or move into one of those 3rd world countries where Cleverness claims has no covid.[/QUOTE]


Are those my only two options?

[QUOTE=PANTHALASSA;14217596]Are those my only two options?[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately it is. What else can you do?

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217599]Unfortunately it is. What else can you do?[/QUOTE]


[video=youtube;KL_v4Mi6bdQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_v4Mi6bdQ&t=13s[/video]

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217384]I dont know why everyones complaining. There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?[/QUOTE]
If a country does a full lockdown in a whole year for the sake of eradicating the virus completely, then there's a big chance that lots of people will die from starvation instead unless their government can supply them food and many of their basic needs, although that is very far from being feasible.

[QUOTE=Axe;14217605]If a country does a full lockdown in a whole year for the sake of eradicating the virus completely, then there's a big chance that lots of people will die from starvation instead unless their government can supply them food and many of their basic needs, although that is very far from being feasible.[/QUOTE]

No country does a full lockdown for a full year. China did it for about a month. And then when the virus came back they quickly did it again on the specific infected city.

[QUOTE=KennyPowers;14217604][video=youtube;KL_v4Mi6bdQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_v4Mi6bdQ&t=13s[/video][/QUOTE]

Let me know how that goes.

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217728]No country does a full lockdown for a full year. China did it for about a month. And then when the virus came back they quickly did it again on the specific infected city.[/QUOTE]
Ofc they'll get bankrupt if they do, especially when the economy comes to a standstill.

[QUOTE=Axe;14217735]Ofc they'll get bankrupt if they do, especially when the economy comes to a standstill.[/QUOTE]

That's my point. Countries that did strict full lockdowns have been fully opened for months already.

Whereas we have no end in sight unless we vaccinate everyone.

Isnt it ironic that our "freedom" fighting mentality will eventually force mandated vaccines on us?

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217743]That's my point. Countries that did strict full lockdowns have been fully opened for months already.

Whereas we have no end in sight unless we vaccinate everyone.

Isnt it ironic that our "freedom" fighting mentality will eventually force mandated vaccines on us?[/QUOTE]
It's a matter of fighting for the will to live.

If it can be balanced out (up to 50% in lockdowns only), then why not. After all, people work almost daily to satisfy their needs everyday. They can't just stay home to stand by and do nothing 24/7 all of a sudden.

And i believe they will prioritize in giving the vaccines to those who are most vulnerable by it, to the ones living in areas where the virus became dense until there is no transmission anymore, as in completely none.

This is what the world is trying to achieve rn so not everyone will get it for most instances.

So when we are locked in our playpen, what happens to the homeless? Hurricane Katrina them? Then release a fresh new batch of homeless that lost their businesses/homes?

The needs of the many only outweigh the needs of the few, if the many are bettering the world, not destroying it by turning it into a communist prison system demanding everyone follow in line.

Maybe this whole civil war thing is needed. Let's face it, the world is overpopulated and in the U.S.'s case, the midwest doesn't want to be China. All of these democrat rat box cities want to tell southern midwest country mountain desert people how to live. We good, bruh. We ain't want it.



Youtube seems to have removed video of homeless man during Katrina saying he ain't going into that empty Walmart fema camps cause they offing the homeless inside.

They also removed the video of antifa dude getting cracked in the skull with a rubber bullet.

n00bie is an insufferable ch1nk. Every one of his posts is some rehash of “Oh rhy can’t re be more rike chinese. We vely smart here in china. No rights for you!” Go eat some more Tiger pen1s extract and get the f uck out of here.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14217803]n00bie is an insufferable ch1nk. Every one of his posts is some rehash of “Oh rhy can’t re be more rike chinese. We vely smart here in china. No rights for you!” Go eat some more Tiger pen1s extract and get the f uck out of here.[/QUOTE]

Are you still autistic?

[QUOTE=KennyPowers;14217767]So when we are locked in our playpen, what happens to the homeless? Hurricane Katrina them? Then release a fresh new batch of homeless that lost their businesses/homes?

The needs of the many only outweigh the needs of the few, if the many are bettering the world, not destroying it by turning it into a communist prison system demanding everyone follow in line.

Maybe this whole civil war thing is needed. Let's face it, the world is overpopulated and in the U.S.'s case, the midwest doesn't want to be China. All of these democrat rat box cities want to tell southern midwest country mountain desert people how to live. We good, bruh. We ain't want it.



Youtube seems to have removed video of homeless man during Katrina saying he ain't going into that empty Walmart fema camps cause they offing the homeless inside.

They also removed the video of antifa dude getting cracked in the skull with a rubber bullet.[/QUOTE]

Good luck with the civil war. Civilians with guns vs. the U.S. military?

Sometimes you just gotta accept this is the world we live in and try to make the best of your time here.

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217728]No country does a full lockdown for a full year. China did it for about a month. And then when the virus came back they quickly did it again on the specific infected city.[/QUOTE]

China took stadiums and forcefully threw people into those stadiums and made them stay there for weeks. Literally abducting them from their homes because they were in "contact" with infected people.

What do you think would happen if Trump used the military to round up people, throw them in vans, and housed them in stadiums during March?

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217743]That's my point. Countries that did strict full lockdowns have been fully opened for months already.

Whereas we have no end in sight unless we vaccinate everyone.

Isnt it ironic that our "freedom" fighting mentality will eventually force mandated vaccines on us?[/QUOTE]

Which western country in Europe or North America "defeated" Corona even with strict full lockdowns? None.

[QUOTE=8Ball;14217939]China took stadiums and forcefully threw people into those stadiums and made them stay there for weeks. Literally abducting them from their homes because they were in "contact" with infected people.

What do you think would happen if Trump used the military to round up people, throw them in vans, and housed them in stadiums during March?[/QUOTE]

Corona would be under control. Let’s face it. America is in the situation it’s in because it was unwilling to do the necessities early on. Just went to a concert Saturday. Even tho we have no local spread everybody still wore masks. It’s about disease prevention - not doing these things when the virus is already everywhere and out of control.

You would have a civil war if Trump did that.

Don't get it twisted. Doing what it took to really shut down corona was far and above what the public would have [B]accepted back in March[/B].

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217384][B]I dont know why everyones complaining.[/B] There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?[/QUOTE]

Trillions of wealth is being transferred via DC to special interests, freedom is deemed non essential, tens of millions of healthy people have been effectively placed on house arrest indefinitely, QOL has declined for tens of millions, millions of children have lost a year of school, millions of people have had medical appointments/surgeries canceled, we've destroyed our society, and small businesses are being slaughtered. Half of black owned small businesses will be closed forever due to the gov't. Honestly, outside of being completely clueless, I don't know why everyone's not complaining.

Stop believing China's lockdowns (Wuhan) did jack shit other than make other western countries copy them (starting w/ Italy). Magic scarecrows in Cambodia were far more successful than China. Cambodia has had zero deaths and they used magic scarecrows. Even Uganda did better than China and they don't social distance or "full Wuhan-style" BS either.

The only way a lockdown would have worked in the US is if they did a 100% lockdown starting September 2019 and from there let literally 0 people into the country. Impossible.

[url]https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192[/url]

[QUOTE=n00bie;14217590]This is the world we live in. Deal with it or move into one of those 3rd world countries where Cleverness claims has no covid.[/QUOTE]

I never claimed they have no Covid.

[QUOTE=8Ball;14217951]You would have a civil war if Trump did that.

Don't get it twisted. Doing what it took to really shut down corona was far and above what the public would have [B]accepted back in March[/B].[/QUOTE]

That’s on you freedom loving spoiled ass westerners. The rest of the world knows the health of society far outweigh the rights and inconveniences of the few.

[QUOTE=pew;14217958]That’s on you freedom loving spoiled ass westerners. The rest of the world knows the health of society far outweigh the rights and inconveniences of the few.[/QUOTE]

Freedom? We don't even have the freedom to assemble 2 people for lunch at Brent's Deli here in California. Even "red states" like Texas and Florida are less free now than 2019 Commiefornia. :lol

Anyways, [url]https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192[/url], everyone knew back in February that the disease would not be stopped. The question is: what do you think the US should have done in April? And should the US have torn down their field hospitals and Navy ships sail away?

[QUOTE=pew;14217958]That’s on you freedom loving spoiled ass westerners. The rest of the world knows the health of society far outweigh the rights and inconveniences of the few.[/QUOTE]

Hating on westerners is the epitome of idiocy.

It's a flu and the numbers a majorly doctored to promote further transfer of wealth to the elite class. Keep living in ignorant hate, chump.
IN fact society would be far healthier if we acquired herd immunity by everyone going out.