# of superteams beaten by MVP or FMVP winners

all-defense is literally a byproduct of [B]all-league[/B]. as per bref. no amount of crying and delusion from you will change that.

now list another team that fielded 3 other all-leaguers in 96. we know that chicago was one of them :oldlol:

[QUOTE=3ball;14290663]Nope,[B] all-defense has never been included[/B], so you're making up new shit because you have no facts to make your case

It's funny because most people are fooled into thinking Rodman was a star because of his pink hair, wedding dresses, and Carmen Electra ladies - but you're trying to justify it with his play, which is preposterous because defensive players aren't part of big 3's.. so just be fooled like everyone else and call him a star because he "seems" like one[/QUOTE]

It's never been included in a system that you made up yesterday

Hey, a certain deluded kawhi stan keep on bragging about the 2019 sixers, a superteam dubbed 'warriors of the east' even if they had no top seeds, no ecf or finals berth and no 55 wins in the last five years.

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets;14290511]Heres a list of superteams:

1959-1969 Celtics
1981-1987 Celtics
1983-1985 76ers
1984-1991 Lakers
1996-1998 Bulls
2004 Lakers
2008-2010 Celtics
2011-2014 Heat
2015-2017 Cavaliers
2017-2019 Warriors
2021 Lakers

# of superteams beaten by MVP or FMVP winners:
Larry Bird: 2(1984 Lakers, 1985 76ers)
Magic Johnson: 2(1985 Celtics, 1987 Celtics)
Kawhi Leonard: 2(2014 Heat, 2019 Warriors)
Stephen Curry: 2(2015 Cavs, 2017 Cavs)
Wilt Chamberlain: 1(1967 Celtics)
Moses Malone: 1(1983 Lakers)
Isiah Thomas: 1(1989 Lakers)
Michael Jordan: 1(1991 Lakers)
Chauncey Billups: 1(2004 Lakers)
Kobe Bryant: 1(2010 Celtics)
Dirk Nowitzki: 1(2011 Heat)
Tim Duncan: 1(2014 Heat)
Kevin Durant 1(2017 Cavs)

As we can see, to beat a superteam is extremely difficult and we dont even have one player who beat superteams more than 2 times. Among these players who have defeated 2 superteams, Bird, Magic, Curry(only in 2017) and Durant did this on their own superteams. This makes Kawhi's achievements far more impressive, as he beat 2 superteams without being on his own superteams. He deserve massive respect for pulling off miracles twice.

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There was absolutely nothing that made the 1967-1969 Celtics a superteam. Due to age, injury, and a coaching transition they actually were underdogs in several of their series during the 1968 and 1969 playoffs having to win multiple series on the road.

Also, as Kablaze mentioned, any Showtime era Lakers team post 1989 was nowhere close to being a superteam, especially during the 1991 Finals. With their leading scorer, Worthy, being injured coming into the Finals, and then both he and Byron Scott being unable to play at all in the last game due to injury, it was basically Magic and some nice players who never made an all star team in their collective careers, other than a young Divac, who was a one time all star reserve 10 years later, on the squad.

[QUOTE=3ball;14290588][B]All-defense isn't included in super-team criteria, [/B]otherwise the 06' Cavs might be a super-team.. or the 10' Cavs

Btw, Rodman wasn't the starter in the 98' Playoffs and was 36 years old, so if he was a "star", then so was 2010 Shaq.. And he averaged 4/8 in the 97' Playoffs... Ultimately, the 96-98 Bulls weren't a super-team because they lacked 3 perennial all-stars or 2 perennial MVP candidates[/QUOTE]
You're so full of shit...

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14290518]Tim Duncan beat the '04 Lakers? OP really is the dumbest poster on the forum :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

That guy is clearly retarded

Which superteam won 73 games? Thanks

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14290849]That guy is clearly retarded[/QUOTE]
He also thought drummond was a superstar somehow

So the current Nets are [i]not[/i] a superteam? :biggums:

Ahh, I should know better than to take OP's threads seriously :lol

[QUOTE=imdaman99;14290960]So the current Nets are [i]not[/i] a superteam? :biggums:

Ahh, I should know better than to take OP's threads seriously :lol[/QUOTE]

rooting for the knicks to upset the nets in the playoffs.

Obvious anti-Lebron thread. OP claims to be objective and unbias. Lol, what a joke

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14290963]rooting for the knicks to upset the nets in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

lol you are a clown. How about a ban bet? If the Knicks upset us in the playoffs, I quit ISH and my account is permabanned. If we beat the Knicks, or we dont meet in the playoffs(Knicks missing playoffs or eliminated by another team), you quite ISH and your account is permabanned. Wanna take this bet bro?

[QUOTE=hateraid;14290988]Obvious anti-Lebron thread. OP claims to be objective and unbias. Lol, what a joke[/QUOTE]

Did I mention Lebron at all in this thread?
:pimp:

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets;14290997]lol you are a clown. How about a ban bet? If the Knicks upset us in the playoffs, I quit ISH and my account is permabanned. If we beat the Knicks, or we dont meet in the playoffs(Knicks missing playoffs or eliminated by another team), you quite ISH and your account is permabanned. Wanna take this bet bro?



Did I mention Lebron at all in this thread?
:pimp:[/QUOTE]

People aren't stupid to not read between your lines.