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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50192025/olympics-give-jazz-players-something-to-focus-on-following-seasons-sudden-end[/url]
[QUOTE]Lindsey has a reason for fear: Former Jazz guard Dante Exum tore his ACL while playing for Australia in the summer of 2015 following his first season in Utah. He had played all 82 games, even winning the starting point guard spot in the back half of the year during his rookie campaign. He hasn't played a full season since.
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Maybe the Wizards fave player too:facepalm
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[url]https://fansided.com/2021/04/05/champions-baylor-won-time-gear/[/url]
[QUOTE]Lillard was not impressed with the graphic design effort from one fan who evidently wanted to see him in a [URL="https://fansided.com/nba/nba-teams/utah-jazz/"]Utah Jazz[/URL] jersey alongside [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mitchdo01.html"]Donovan Mitchell[/URL].
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Doesn't make much sense unless it's instead of Michell
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[QUOTE] SI: Were you surprised at all during the game that they were not making any significant adjustment to take those looks away? Terance Mann: [URL="https://www.si.com/nba/2021/06/24/terance-mann-clippers-breakout-run-nba-playoffs"]I think they just couldn’t help it because that’s how they’ve been playing all year. You know, that’s them. And that’s what got them in first place. But they just never ran into a team that has someone confident enough to just say, you know what, we’re gonna trust that you’re gonna make these shots, and we’re just gonna keep giving you the ball[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.si.com/nba/2021/06/24/terance-mann-clippers-breakout-run-nba-playoffs"]Michael Pina @ Sports Illustrated[/URL]
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COTY! :cry:
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[URL="https://www.gq.com/story/nba-activism"]Donovan Mitchell was frustrated, and he was sad. “Kind of sick,” the Utah Jazz superstar remembers feeling. “Helpless is a good word.” This wasn’t after last Friday’s season-ending loss to the L.A. Clippers; it was back in September, when news broke that there would be no justice for Breonna Taylor.[/URL] Of the three white police officers involved in her death in Louisville, where Mitchell went to college, only one had been charged with a crime — and that was for firing into a neighbor’s apartment, not Taylor’s. “The bullets that missed are what he was held accountable for — that, for me, was really shocking,” Mitchell says.
– via [URL="https://www.gq.com/story/nba-activism"]Matt Sullivan, Condé Nast @ GQ.com[/URL]
[URL="https://www.gq.com/story/nba-activism"]“I think we all understood, in the bubble, that what we’re doing is not going to have an immediate effect now,” Mitchell tells me.[/URL] But when the 24-year-old left Disney World, he kept insisting to anyone who would pay attention — especially on his Trump-eyerolling, vote-pushing, #SayHerName-ing Twitter account — that the persistence of racist killer cops was systemic, and that NBA players and owners could chip away at the system by demanding government action.
– via [URL="https://www.gq.com/story/nba-activism"]Matt Sullivan, Condé Nast @ GQ.com[/URL]
[URL="https://www.gq.com/story/nba-activism"]“Just to be in a room — or a virtual room — of thinkers,” Mitchell recalls of the coalition’s first meeting in March, “that’s what I was excited about.”[/URL] They talked about local legislatures foisting voter-suppression upon 18 NBA cities, and they cleared the air. “We had worn the shirts, we were still pushing it like we did in the bubble…. We all had our ideas, but we came with a plan: Not necessarily everybody sees that until it comes into—” Mitchell snapped his fingers, as if ready to break out into Schoolhouse Rock on the team bus “—a bill!”
– via [URL="https://www.gq.com/story/nba-activism"]Matt Sullivan, Condé Nast @ GQ.com[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
According to his agent, Jelani Floyd of Beyond Athlete Management, [URL="https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article252098983.html"]Tyler Etienne has already worked out for the Cleveland Cavaliers, New York Knicks and Boston Celtics and has workouts scheduled with the Golden State Warriors (June 30), Brooklyn Nets (July 2) and the Phoenix Suns (July 6).[/URL] He is also receiving interest from the Charlotte Hornets, Indiana Pacers, Utah Jazz, Miami Heat and Toronto Raptors.
– via [URL="https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article252098983.html"]The Wichita Eagle[/URL]
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Alder Almo: West Virginia guard [URL="http://twitter.com/alderalmo/status/1408459882152484866"]Miles McBride has completed a workout with the Knicks & Celtics and has interviewed with the Denver, Jazz, Cavs, Raptors, Grizzlies, and few other teams[/URL].
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/alderalmo/status/1408459882152484866"]Twitter[/URL]
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Adrian Wojnarowski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Minnesota Timberwolves and Utah Jazz are hosting group pre-draft workouts in Minneapolis July 8-11, sources tell ESPN. The goal is having 48 players participate over a four day period. The workouts will be open to all 30 teams[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/wojespn"]Twitter wojespn[/URL]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/462371/stars-will-return-to-utah-for-2021-season/[/url]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/462358/jazz-need-better-luck-more-than-better-roster/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=1]Jazz Need Better Luck More Than Better Roster[/h][/QUOTE]
you make you r own luck. Clarkson and Favors don't cut it
[QUOTE]As the four teams who have advanced to the conference finals have proved, rosters need long, rangy athletes to erase offensive spacing, something the Jazz failed to do against the Clippers. Outside of Gobert and Donovan Mitchell, the Jazz lack elite length and athleticism at most positions.
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Brantley, Favors, Oni...
[QUOTE]While Gobert certainly impacted Conley’s plus-minus stats, his effectiveness dropped significantly when the All-Star guard was absent during the playoffs.
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yeah because Clarkson and Mitchell don't pass the ball or defend!
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/25/22548274/utah-jazz-insiders-newsletter-rewatching-final-game-los-angeles-clippers[/url]
[QUOTE]I wanted to see if anything would stand out more than it did when I watched the game live or rewatched portions the day after. Was there something in particular that could be blamed for the Game 6 collapse? Was there something more the Jazz could have done?
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seriously? When you don't try anything obviously you could have done more
[QUOTE]That’s not a knock against Leonard. He truly is one of the league’s best talents. But the Jazz had found a formula that worked with him in the lineup. To the surprise of many, Bojan Bogdanovic was incredibly successful when defending Leonard on possessions when Leonard wasn’t being guarded by Royce O’Neale, who was also very effective.
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for a couple games and than he wasn't
[QUOTE]On the perimeter, Mann is a lot faster and more unpredictable than Leonard and it was nearly impossible for the injured Mitchell and Conley to keep up with the breakneck speed of Mann, who scored from every position on the floor.
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like Mitchell even tries on D :roll:
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[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/whats-next-for-the-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]So draft, trade, or sign a bunch of two-way wings, right? Right. Unfortunately that’s the most sought after player archetype. General Manager Justin Zanik said, “Two-way players are very very important to NBA clubs. That’s why they come at really high premiums.”
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Why not get a PF at least?
[QUOTE]It would not be surprising to learn the front office prefers to run it back. Dennis Lindsey, the Jazz’s Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations, said as much.
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It would be a surprise if they didn't. It's the Jazz after all. The new owner is the wild card hopefully
[QUOTE]Lastly, Mitchell’s voice also holds a lot of weight. Or if he’s not vocal, his contentment certainly does. His extension hasn’t even started, but this is the NBA, and the whole organization should already be focused on building around Donovan and working toward that third contract. It’s unclear how much (if at all) Donovan is involved with personnel decisions, but he is in his prime and the iron is hot. The team is ready to compete now. If ownership or the front office decides a slight step backward is needed for ultimate championship contention, Mitchell’s feelings should be heavily considered.
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He's feelings of forcing his way back on to the court already hurt them
[QUOTE]They can address the perimeter defense issue on the margins, but it will take some luck. The Suns got Torrey Craig for cash considerations. The Grizzlies drafted Desmond Bane with the 30th pick. The Clippers got Nicolas Batum on the minimum. They also found key contributors in Terrance Mann, a second-round pick, and Reggie Jackson, a buyout signing last season who re-upped with L.A. at the minimum.
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but that would mean a front office doing their jobs and COTY playing them
[QUOTE]The Jazz have been less successful finding such gems this season. Ersan Ilyasova and Matt Thomas did not help their perimeter defense or contribute in the playoffs. We’ve yet to see Udoka Azubuike play much, but many criticize passing on Bane or other wings like Jaden McDaniels who were available with the pick. Utah did not use their bi-annual exception in either of the past two offseasons.
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Ersan should have played. Bane and McDaniels wouldn't have played. The bi annual probably wouldn't have mattered either. Another guy to sit and watch
[QUOTE]At the last trade deadline it felt like the team was complete. The top eight rotation players were rock solid. Now that is a little less certain. With the run-it-back approach, Mitchell, Gobert, and Conley are the core. O’Neale has such a unique skillset on the team that he feels essential too. That leaves Bogdanovic, Ingles, Derrick Favors, and Jordan Clarkson. All are immensely popular and played important roles during the regular season. It would be painful to trade any of them. But if the Jazz feel the need for a bigger change, it probably means moving one of these players.
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It never felt solid outside Conley, Gobert and O'Neale. Clarkson and Favors need to go if possible
[QUOTE]Favors is probably not going to get you a 3-and-D player. There’s hope that he comes back next season healthy and rejuvenated.
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a year older why would anyone hope that?
[QUOTE]Clarkson is young and coming off a career year. He probably brings back the most value. His scoring off the bench won Utah games this season, and he’s a beloved teammate. Quin Snyder allowed him to freelance, but did his shot creation sometimes take the Jazz too far out of their offense? Would a defensive-oriented player serve the team’s needs better? That’s something the Jazz will have to consider as Clarkson’s trade value, at 29 and coming off an 18-ppg season, is the highest of this bunch.
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anyone but Clarkson!
[QUOTE]If Conley does choose to leave, the Jazz can hope for a sign-and-trade to recoup value. They hoped for this when Gordon Hayward left, but it’s easier said than done. If Conley doesn’t sign in Utah, he’s likely to join a contender. Those contenders would either need to sign him at below market value with the mid-level exception, in which case a sign-and-trade won’t make sense. Or, they’ll need to do a sign-and-trade, but the returning assets would be of less interest to the Jazz, who also want to contend.
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you can get a trade exception anyway
[QUOTE]Which leads us to the scenario where Conley leaves and the Jazz don’t do a sign-and-trade. At that point they’d have access to a larger mid-level exception, as well as the bi-annual. They wouldn’t be facing as big of a tax bill, so using all of their exceptions becomes more palatable. But they’d at least need a back up point guard in addition to the perimeter defense upgrades we’ve been talking about.
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they'd need a starting pg. Mitchell isn't it. Why doesn't anyone talk about the PF they don't have or don't play? If you had a 4/small ball 5 you would solve a lot of the problems. O'Neale can concentrate on the wing instead of rebounding
[QUOTE]If such a voice prevails, that could mean breaking up the core in various degrees of severity: trading more than one rotation player from the Ingles/Clarkson/Bogdanovic/Favors group; signing-and-trading Conley; or even trading Gobert. The idea would be to give Donovan the ball as much as he wants, and then surround him with versatile players that can shoot and defend. The Rockets tried this with James Harden, and may have succeeded if they didn’t coincide with the Warriors’ prime. We can talk about whether this approach is ideal, but the Jazz don’t have the assets to bring back more talented players — especially if your outgoing players are a traditional defensive center or a 33-year old small point guard. At best they can hope for a lateral talent move, but even that is iffy given the circumstances.
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Mitchell isn't Harden
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[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/what-we-really-just-saw-as-jazz-collapsed-versus-clippers/[/url]
[QUOTE]The guard injuries took a toll on the defensive end as well, which we’ll get to shortly. With Conley sidelined and Mitchell unable to move laterally, Clipper guard Reggie Jackson had no problem getting into the paint and triggering desperate rotations and even new schemes by the Jazz. Other times, Mitchell would guard off ball and close out to a shooter, but then didn’t have the ability to change directions and close out a second time when the Clippers rotated the ball.
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quit acting like Mitchell would have played defense if he wasn't hurt!
[QUOTE]In fact, for much of this series, Gobert was Utah’s best and only chance of really slowing the Clippers down at all, even when they were small and when they abandoned pick-and-roll play altogether to force the 3-time Defensive Player of the Year to guard in space.
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as he has been for more than 6 years. Lottery team without him
[QUOTE]Through five games, Gobert was actually Utah’s best isolation defender in the series, per [URL="https://twitter.com/Ben_Dowsett/status/1405548778585608193?s=20"]tracking stats shared by JazzFilmRoom’s Ben Dowsett[/URL]. Gobert wasn’t the reason man defense wasn’t working; everybody else was. George and Jackson had no problem getting right around the first defender, only now there was no Gobert in the paint to offer last-line defensive help.
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big surprise
[QUOTE]Snyder said that he tried variations on the scheme once the Clippers started hitting. Instead of simply letting Mann and others shoot, they started having Gobert stunt or fake the closeout, or they’d rotate down from the top. For a while they even went into zone defense. But the failure on those plays happens way before the ball ever even gets to the shooter’s hands: the Jazz just simply have to be better at guarding the ball.
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Snyder didn't do shit!
[QUOTE]The Jazz have stars atop their depth chart, and impressive “starter depth,” with seven or eight guys who would probably start on at least some NBA teams. But if there’s something they could learn from this loss, it’s that there’s value in shoring up those fringe rotation and deep bench pieces in case you ever need those individuals to step up and play a bigger role.
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or at least try playing those guys when others aren't getting it done
[QUOTE]For what it’s worth, the Jazz tried: both in last fall’s free agency and in the more recent buyout market, the Jazz did put in calls to try to improve the end of their rotation. Reports indicate they even made a play at Batum. The Shaq Harrison signing didn’t pan out, partially because the Jazz tried to repurpose him as a third-unit point guard when really he’s more of a defensive pest with some spot-shooting and slashing skills on offense. The Ersan Ilyasova pickup didn’t yield what some people had hoped. Acquiring Matt Thomas in a deadline trade was more of a developmental play, adding a player with an NBA skill set that they might be able to develop in the medium term a la Ingles or O’Neale. But those weren’t the only swings the Jazz took.
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again they never tried Shaq. Who knows what he could he brought. Ersan was great. That one is on Snyder
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Adam Zagoria: Former @GamecockMBB G [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]@AJ Lawson will work out for The Utah Jazz July 2[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria"]Twitter AdamZagoria[/URL]
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Adam Zagoria: In addition to the Nets and Knicks next month, [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]@Sandro Mamukelashvili has worked out for the Pistons, the Hornets, the Thunder and the Jazz.[/URL] He has eight more workouts scheduled in July. “I’m pretty busy, I’ll be all around the place,” he said.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria"]Twitter AdamZagoria[/URL]
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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/ranking-top-5-most-impactful-143355568.html[/url]
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[url]https://pippenainteasy.com/2021/06/25/chicago-bulls-trade-thaddeus-young/2/[/url]
He makes some sense but his 3% was down last year and he's not really the small ball 5 option they need. Definitely need a 4 though!:cheers:
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[QUOTE] Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder on @Utah Jazz VP of Basketball Ops Dennis Lindsey moving into an advisory role[/URL]. #TakeNote pic.twitter.com/VLCoipHIms
[HR][/HR] [INDENT] Quin Snyder on [URL="https://twitter.com/utahjazz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]@utahjazz[/URL] VP of Basketball Ops Dennis Lindsey moving into an advisory role. [URL="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TakeNote?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]#TakeNote[/URL] [URL="https://t.co/VLCoipHIms"]pic.twitter.com/VLCoipHIms[/URL]
— Ben Anderson (@BensHoops) [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops/status/1409357093832847362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]June 28, 2021[/URL][/INDENT]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
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Sweet! Bring on Ainge and a new coach already! :cheers:
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[url]https://kslsports.com/462534/woj-jazz-vp-lindsey-moving-into-advisory-role/[/url]
[QUOTE]Lindsey is responsible for the draft night trades that landed superstars Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell in Utah and helped the Jazz sign Bojan Bogdanovic and trade for Mike Conley in recent years.
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Who was responsible for signing Clarkson and Favors? :cry:
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50194428/dennis-lindsey-to-move-to-advisory-role-in-jazz-organization[/url]
[QUOTE]A team source told KSL.com that while Zanik is expected to lead the front office there could be further moves made in the organization this offseason. That includes the possibility of former BYU Cougar and Boston Celtic executive Danny Ainge joining the organization.
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bring him on
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2021/6/27/22553573/justin-zanik-will-be-gm-as-dennis-lindsey-moves-to-advisory-role-for-the-utah-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]Dennis Lindsey deserves a lot of credit for where the Jazz have gotten to as an organization. Before Lindsey, the Jazz were rudderless after the loss of Larry Miller and Jerry Sloan. Decisions were being made that put the Jazz into chaos. Dennis Lindsey turned that chaos into a strong organization. He helped create, and grow, multiple departments for the Jazz that helped them grow into what they are today. Many thanks are due to Dennis Lindsey for his time with the Jazz.
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I guess. Without lucking out with Gobert I'd hate to think where they'd be. His undying love of Exum was especially brutal
[QUOTE][INDENT]Wade is very involved [URL]https://t.co/QZQBgy9soJ[/URL]
— Tony Jones (@Tjonesonthenba) [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba/status/1409361411440922624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]June 28, 202[/QUOTE]1
Good!
[/URL] [QUOTE]With all the success of last season, it’s hard to overlook some of the decisions, or lack there of, during the trade deadline. Utah was the #1 team in the NBA for most of the season but did almost nothing to solidify themselves going into the playoffs. Players like PJ Tucker, Torrey Craig and Austin Rivers have made big contributions to their teams in the playoffs. The Jazz decided not to go after any of these players and it might have cost them a chance at going farther in the playoffs. Hopefully with Zanik now making decisions, the Jazz will be more aggressive when necessary.
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I'd look more at Clarkson, Favors and Hughes and a coach that wouldn't have played any of those guys anyway
[QUOTE]Yes, the Jazz dealt with unfortunate injuries that were the biggest factor in them struggling to advance farther in the playoffs. Although, even with a bad ankle, Donovan Mitchell put up superstar numbers. It was the Jazz defense that failed them in their second round matchup, something that having a healthy Mike Conley wouldn’t have changed much. A switchable 4/5 in PJ Tucker, for example, could have been a major addition for the Jazz. That inactivity was surely considered in this move for the Jazz. With Justin Zanik in charge now, and backed by Ryan Smith, it will be interesting to see just how much the Jazz change.
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Conley would have made things tougher on Reggie Jackson which would have made one less guy for Gobert to have to worry about. Maybe Zanik likes PF's? He was Ersan's agent
[QUOTE][INDENT] League Sources: Danny Ainge is in play, but if he comes into the front office, it won't be to lead the front office. Justin Zanik is the guy
— Tony Jones (@Tjonesonthenba) [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba/status/1409350048207413248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]June 28, 2021[/URL] [/INDENT][/QUOTE]
If he's behind the Favors and Clarkson contracts than :cry:
[QUOTE]How many roster changes will happen? After such a disappointing end to the season, where the Jazz underperformed as a #1 seed, the roster will be changed. It’s just a matter of how much.
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Clarkson, Favors and Hughes need to go if possible. Bojan to the bench. A starting PF that can shoot and protect the rim ideally. O'Neale to the wing where he belongs. Sign Conley.
[QUOTE] Dennis Lindsey doesn’t have a very good draft record. With the exception of Mitchell and Gobert he hasn’t drafted good at all. We don’t have any good young assets.
I’ll also never get over the fact that he drafted Trey Lyles over Devin Booker when we clearly needed shooters.
I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing in Danny Ainge. He had the Celtics in the playoffs most every year. He also went to the Finals twice and won it all once. You can never have too many good minds in a personnel dept.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Matt_Grbac"]Matt_Grbac[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2021/6/27/22553573/justin-zanik-will-be-gm-as-dennis-lindsey-moves-to-advisory-role-for-the-utah-jazz#541869735"]Jun 28, 2021 | 4:45 AM[/URL]
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He's done alright later in the draft but you got to know when to cut your losses. All GM's make mistakes. Stuck with Exum and Burke way too long. Who knows what the team looks like now if they get Conley for Rubio, Exum and picks
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[QUOTE] Dennis Lindsey’s exit from the Utah Jazz’s president of basketball operations chair was more of an ownership decision than Lindsey’s personal one, sources tell The Salt Lake Tribune, [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]as new owner Ryan Smith chose to move on without Lindsey at the helm and selected general manager Justin Zanik as the team’s primary decision-maker[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
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feel better about the new owner already! :cheers:
[QUOTE] Lindsey, hired by the Jazz in 2012, selected Snyder to be his team’s head coach in the summer of 2014 after a disappointing season from predecessor Ty Corbin. But in the years that ensued, Snyder and Lindsey’s relationship deteriorated, creating distrust between the pair that impacted day-to-day Jazz operations. [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]The disagreements were numerous, both on and off the court, sources said[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
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Corbin was supposed to lose games and did. Not sure how that is disappointing? Get rid of Snyder too!
[QUOTE] While the relationship between the two men wasn’t as combative this year as it had been at various times in the two’s tenure, thanks at least in part to the success of the team in the regular season, there was a view from some within the organization that a longstanding feud had been settled. [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]“Quin won,” one source simply said[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
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I guess that is why he refused to play guys the past two years?
[QUOTE] In Derrick Favors’ first stint with the Jazz, Lindsey was a proponent of starting Favors at the power forward position next to All-NBA center Rudy Gobert, touting that pairing’s defensive acumen. [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]Snyder, meanwhile, struggled with spacing the floor under those lineups[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
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and now they have no PF! Worked well :facepalm
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Snyder joined most of the Jazz’s front office in being frustrated by the selection of Udoka Azubuike with the team’s first-round pick in 2020. [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]The selection, sources said, was made over strenuous disagreement from the team’s scouting department, but Lindsey saw a future in Azubuike’s size and ability to finish around the basket[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
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who should they have taken that Snyder wouldn't have played unless he was from Duke? They needed to take a center. Udoka has Gobert like potential. The one thing that made Lindsey and Snyder's careers
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[QUOTE][URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]The Jazz, frankly, also want to make moves that appeal to star guard Donovan Mitchell and his team.[/URL] Even though Mitchell just signed a five-year extension with the team, the deal includes a player option after the fourth season, and the NBA’s player-favorable power structure means that Mitchell, if he wanted, could engineer an exit sooner. Mitchell (and teammate Royce O’Neale) are represented by Ty Sullivan of the Creative Artists Agency (CAA); a current CAA executive is among those being considered for a front-office role.
[/QUOTE] – via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/06/28/story-behind-utah-jazzs/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
big mistake. They tried that with Hayward. Big fail. Mitchell ought to be trying to appeal to the Jazz. Try playing some D and passing the ball for example
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[QUOTE] Brian Windhorst: I do think that [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c"]Dwyane Wade, who (Ryan Smith) brought in to be a co-owner but also be an advisor, is seriously concerned about Donovan Mitchell’s desire to stay (in Utah) long-term[/URL].
– via [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c"]Spotify[/URL]
Brian Windhorst: One of the big reasons why Ryan Smith brought in Dwayne Wade, and yes, Dwyane bought into the team, but I will promise you, he got a very favorable price. (…) I think he got a very sweetheart deal. [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c"]One of the reasons he did it was Ryan Smith wanted to have Donovan Mitchell stay in Utah for the long-term[/URL].
– via [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c"]Spotify[/URL]
Brian Windhorst: Executives out there and and teams out there that are in the hunt for star players, [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c"]they have Damian Lillard ‘s name on the board, sort of high up. And then maybe down, not high on the board, but down on the sort of middle right side of the board… They have Donovan Mitchell[/URL].
– via [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c"]Spotify[/URL]
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for someone who hasn't really done anything theres a lot of worry
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[QUOTE] Brian Windhorst: Dennis Lindsey has done as good of a job as any executive for the last decades in the NBA. He built that team in Utah from scratch in a small market. And the reason he is no longer the president… [URL="https://www.audacy.com/1053thefan/sports/dallas-mavericks/nba-insider-concerned-players-dont-want-to-play-with-luka"]Some of the stuff that he’s saying about why is leaving, I’m sure it’s true… is because he got on the opposite side of Donovan Mitchell. If you are on the opposite side of your franchise star, you’re just not going to survive. That’s just the way it is[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.audacy.com/1053thefan/sports/dallas-mavericks/nba-insider-concerned-players-dont-want-to-play-with-luka"]Audacy[/URL]
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highly overrated. What has he done if you take Gobert out of the picture?
[QUOTE] Brian Windhorst: [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c"]It was an open secret in the NBA that Quin Snyder and Dennis Lindsey had a very poor relationship.[/URL] Some of this stuff is somewhat known. Some of the stuff is private, but was some classic stuff, you know, coaches not not valuing developing players. You know, snide, you know, backstabbing stuff or whatever. It’s endemic in the NBA, it happens.
– via [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c"]Spotify[/URL]
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too bad Snyder and Mitchell won I guess :(
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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/report-friction-between-former-gm-113043918.html[/url]
[QUOTE]Please read the entire story, it’s filled with fantastic details. It’s understandable that Smith would come in as owner and want to clean up that level of dysfunction, and he sided with Snyder, the winning coach that got this team the best record in the NBA this season.
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The winning coach that hasn't won without Gobert and has been schooled in back to back playoffs?
[QUOTE]Whatever happens, don’t expect radical changes from Zanik — this is still a contending team. It could use more strong on-ball perimeter defenders, and there will be changes around the edges, but don’t expect the core of this team to look different (much of it is under contract already, anyway).
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could use a starting 4 which apparently the coach is against.
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50195101/ryan-smith-has-found-his-footing-and-is-now-shaking-things-up-with-the-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]Lindsey is well regarded in the basketball world, and his tenure with the Jazz should be considered a successful one. He made two big trades to land Mitchell and Rudy Gobert that shaped the Jazz's future; he found Royce O'Neale in a mini free agent camp, signed Bojan Bogdanovic and traded for Mike Conley; he chose Snyder as head coach.
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Got lucky with Gobert. That was more about the Miller's agreeing to buy a pick. Got Mitchell because he wanted to be here. Royce a good find buy Snyder actually playing him is the key. Bojan should have been a starting 4. Should have traded Exum and Rubio for Conley. So again what did he do exactly?
[QUOTE]However, he was far from perfect. He lost Gordon Hayward to Boston in 2017 after an All-Star season and a playoff run. His draft track record was spotty — and his selection of Udoka Azubuike in last year's draft was a contentious one within the organization, one source said. And the players he signed to fill out the end of the bench were far from reliable enough for Snyder to feel comfortable playing meaningful minutes.
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Center was the right pick. Was there another center they should have taken? Snyder wasn't going to play them anyway. 6 rookies made no sense last year and Hughes certainly made none this year. Not having a 4 the past two years made no sense but that sound like more of a Quin problem as was him not playing guys that could have helped them despite their non Dukeness
[QUOTE]Aside from that, Smith is a major proponent of not sticking to the status quo just because it was working. He turned Qualtrics from a successful survey company to one that created a whole new market: experience management. He's running his team the same way. The Jazz may not err on the side of continuity as much anymore — even coming off an NBA-best record.
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good to hear. Been a problem with the Miller's The fact that Snyder is still coach and the fact that Zanik was already GM when they signed Clarkson. Favors and Hughes still leaves me with doubts though
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[url]https://kslsports.com/462566/jazz-have-options-with-mike-conley/[/url]
[QUOTE]However, those plans may have changed when Ryan Smith purchased the team in October, and showed a willingness to operate in the luxury tax (albeit at a much lower level) this season, even when the Jazz could have made cost-cutting moves at the trade deadline.
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they should have got under it this year as close as they were especially since the coach wasn't going to play anyone but his guys anyway
[QUOTE]The Jazz could look to pull off a similar maneuver in the off-season, bringing a proven player back in exchange for Conley, even if it too puts them over the luxury tax, rather than watching him leave the roster with nothing in return.
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could do it and get a trade exception too
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/06/28/danny-ainge-utah-jazz-rumor-celtics-nba/[/url]
[QUOTE]Ainge, who retired as the man in charge of the Celtics following a disappointing 2021 season, could be joining the Utah Jazz organization in the near future. The 62-year-old is [URL="https://theathletic.com/2677231/2021/06/28/dennis-lindseys-change-in-roles-might-signal-significant-shift-in-jazzs-front-office/"]reportedly[/URL] being considered for an advisory role under Justin Zanik, who is taking over in Utah after a front office shakeup by the Jazz. Utah made changes this offseason after they were the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference, but lost to the Los Angeles Clippers in the second round of the playoffs.
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Can't have enough advisors with O'Conner and Lindsey aboard. I'd guess Lindsey will take a job elsewhere before long though
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[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263153/Danny-Ainge-Meets-With-Jazz-Could-Join-Team-In-Advisory-Role[/url]
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[URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c?si=UJVUkZwHRvGPSehHiheaNQ&dl_branch=1&nd=1"]“Shane Battier has already been mentioned as a candidate to join the [Jazz] front office,”[/URL] Brian Windhorst said on a recent episode of his podcast. “Shane was obviously a teammate of Dwyane Wade’s in Miami for several years. He resigned from the [Miami] Heat’s front office two weeks ago in kind of a surprising move because he was regarded as a guy who might be with the Heat for a long time. There has been some speculation throughout the league that maybe this was in the works since then, and Battier would be a candidate.”
– via [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4s2KTB9gbzEWSsXCs4pg5c?si=UJVUkZwHRvGPSehHiheaNQ&dl_branch=1&nd=1"]Spotify[/URL]
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[QUOTE] [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/06/in-make-or-break-offseason-cleveland-cavaliers-will-and-must-consider-all-options-including-possible-collin-sexton-trade.html"]Recent rumblings point to Sexton’s name being involved in trade discussions — even though sources close to Sexton have the impression that the polarizing 22-year-old shooting guard is part of the long-term plans[/URL]. The chatter shouldn’t come as a surprise. Sexton is extension-eligible this summer and his agent Austin Brown, the same guy who got Donovan Mitchell the rookie-scale max from Utah, will be looking for a big payday. Sexton’s earned it. Despite being selected eighth in 2018, he’s emerged as one of the top players in the class, averaging career-bests in points (24.3), assists (4.4) and field goal percentage (47.5%) this past season. He’s improved every year and his unrelenting work ethic points to a guy who will likely keep ascending. Sexton has done everything they’ve asked, if not more.
– via [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/06/in-make-or-break-offseason-cleveland-cavaliers-will-and-must-consider-all-options-including-possible-collin-sexton-trade.html"]Chris Fedor @ Cleveland Plain Dealer[/URL]
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similar numbers to Mitchell and a couple years younger.
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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/trade-rumor-rankings-donovan-mitchell-185842059.html[/url]
[QUOTE]That story is particularly surprising considering that Mitchell signed a max extension with the Jazz back in November that will pay him handsomely to stay in Utah until 2024-25 at the earliest, with [URL="https://*********.com/player/donovan-mitchell/salary/"]2025-26 having a player option on it[/URL] that Mitchell will almost certainly opt out of. When that contract kicks in next season, Mitchell projects to be the [URL="https://*********.com/salaries/players/"]37th highest-paid player[/URL] in the NBA. That means even if Mitchell does want out soon for whatever reason, which seems a bit unlikely, the Jazz will have a major leverage advantage over the star 2-guard since they have him locked up for at least the next four seasons. Nevertheless, this is far from the first time there have been uncomfortable (for Jazz fans, at least) rumblings about Mitchell's future with Utah and, as they say, where there's smoke, there's oftentimes fire. It just seems like we're years away from this being a major issue for the Jazz. [I][B]For the latest on the Donovan Mitchell trade front, [URL="https://*********.com/storyline/donovan-mitchell-trade/"]click here[/URL].[/B][/I]
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better than him running the team. See ya
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
To perform before NBA decision makers, [URL="https://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/jose-alvarado-loving-nba-pre-draft-process/RRIJFKW7EBC5LJ4EUFCNFW3EZ4/"]Alvarado has traveled across the country to work out for scouts and coaches. The itinerary has included Milwaukee, Memphis, New York and Golden State. That’ll be followed by Utah, New Orleans, Phoenix, Toronto and Dallas[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/jose-alvarado-loving-nba-pre-draft-process/RRIJFKW7EBC5LJ4EUFCNFW3EZ4/"]Ken Sugiura @ Atlanta Journal-Constitution[/URL]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/462629/utah-jazz-mock-draft-round-up/[/url]
[QUOTE]Meanwhile, next year’s first-round draft pick is nearly guaranteed to be sent to the Memphis Grizzlies to complete the Mike Conley trade, adding extra importance to finding a young piece that can help the roster for years to come.
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what are the chances based on their history?
[QUOTE]In the latest [URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-mock-draft-5-cade-cunningham-will-have-instant-impact-for-pistons-130057034.html"]mock draft[/URL] from Yahoo Sports, draft expert Krysten Peek projects the Jazz selecting Virginia guard Trey Murphy III.
Murphy is a sharpshooting combo forward that projects as a 3-and-D prospect that should be able to contribute on both ends of the floor in the NBA.
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guard or forward? Need a pg depending on how strongly they feel Forrest will be able to develop a shot
[QUOTE]Standing 6’9 with a 7’0 wingspan Murphy brings impressive length to his 40 percent three-point conversion rate.
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probably not guard
[QUOTE]“Hyland’s deep shooting range could be attractive here, along with his ability to play both on or off the ball in different lineup configurations,” ESPN’s [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31725639/2021-nba-mock-draft-movement-lottery-combine"]Jonathan Givony[/URL] said. “He had a strong showing at the NBA combine, boosting his stock firmly into first-round territory.”
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sounds like possible fit
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[url]https://kslsports.com/462613/jazz-panic-unnecessary-despite-week-of-change/[/url]
[QUOTE]With Mitchell playing at a superstar level, and the Jazz taking a 2-0 lead, the idea of losing four consecutive games to the Clippers, especially the final two without Leonard seemed nearly impossible.
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a superstar that doesn't listen to team doctors, doesn't defend or pass. Yay! :(
[QUOTE]Whichever direction Conley and the Jazz choose, the team will maintain flexibility. Outside of Derrick Favors’ two years and $20 million deal, the Jazz don’t have any truly bad contracts and could be active altering the makeup of the roster if they want to be.
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Clarkson, Mitchell, Bojan, Ingles, Hughes...
[QUOTE]Though fans may have been caught off guard by the news of turmoil among the Jazz brain trust, it should be understood that the “chilly” relationship between the team’s VP and head coach has been a poorly kept secret in Jazz circles for some time. Furthermore, it isn’t one that hasn’t prevented the team from reaching new levels of success over the last several seasons.
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Lindsey should have fired him. He might still have a job
[QUOTE]The NBA is a league of change, after nine years with Lindsey at the helm, and Zanik sitting in waiting since 2019, a shakeup was to the status quo inevitable. With a talented roster at their fingertips, Lindsey is leaving the Jazz in better shape than he found it, which is as good a time as any to depart.
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take away Gobert and they are pretty much in the same place
[QUOTE]The Jazz clearly made a mistake in the team’s opening-round series against the Memphis Grizzlies clearing Mitchell to return from an ankle injury 24 hours before game one, only to tell the guard he couldn’t play just hours before tip-off.
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the doctors were obviously right
[QUOTE]Regardless of which party was correct, with the power players have in today’s NBA, the Jazz need to show Mitchell the support he deserves as the team’s premier franchise building block, and let him know his desires are weighted in future decision making.
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he doesn't deserve anything. He needs to earn it and he hasn't
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/30/22555579/utah-jazz-might-have-interest-in-adding-one-of-these-guys-to-front-office-danny-ainge-shane-battier[/url]
you forgot the other former GM already with them. Morway or whatever?
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/29/22550512/summer-olympics-utah-jazz-joe-ingles-bojan-bogdanovic-rudy-gobert-are-tokyo-bound[/url]
[QUOTE]Could Bogdanovic use a breather? Yes. Could Ingles afford to take time off so that he isn’t burned out by the time the NBA season begins? Yes. Could Gobert use the offseason to get his body right and perhaps work on some offensive moves that would have benefitted him and the Jazz in the playoffs? Yes.
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already has the offensive moves. He doesn't sue them assuming anyone passes him the ball
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/06/29/utah-jazz-3-biggest-leap-next-season/[/url]
[QUOTE]Having been the 58th overall pick in the NBA Draft, expectations were low when [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onimi01.html"]Miye Oni[/URL] came to the Utah Jazz in 2019. However, now that the 23-year-old out of Yale will be entering his third year, he is going to need to start producing if head coach Quin Snyder is to continue giving him minutes in big games, as he did in five of the team’s playoff games against the Clippers.
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COTY played him anyway
[QUOTE]If Gobert were able to develop consistent post moves to take advantage of smaller defenders, then it would go a long way in helping the Jazzmen lift the Larry O’Brien trophy.
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they'd have to pass him the ball though
[QUOTE]Jazz fans should keep an eye on him during the [URL="https://www.nba.com/news/jazz-announce-dates-for-2021-salt-lake-city-summer-league"]NBA Summer League[/URL] action that will be held in Salt Lake City on Aug. 3-6. Hughes could prove then that he deserves to be a part of the rotation.
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I doubt it. He's not as good as Wright Forman. Guaranteed contract. :cry:
[QUOTE]Utah’s championship dreams aren’t out of reach next season. And if these players could seriously improve their game, they could see themselves atop the Western Conference once again.
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if Oni and Hughes are the keys they are in serious trouble. They need a PF. They had 3 that could have helped them but apparently Snyder was trying to prove he had no bench so Lindsey would get fired so they didn't play
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE] The source told the Daily News that the [URL="https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-knicks-kelly-oubre-jr-20210630-jkdawjukqrhjba67iasenp5pxa-story.html"]Knicks are interested in packaging rising star RJ Barrett in a deal for a star guard, like Portland’s Damian Lillard or Washington’s Bradley Beal.[/URL] If both the Trail Blazers and Wizards are uninterested in a deal, the source says the Knicks are also monitoring Cleveland’s Collin Sexton, Oklahoma City’s Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Charlotte’s Terry Rozier as younger guards the franchise can fold into its plans for the future.
– via [URL="https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-knicks-kelly-oubre-jr-20210630-jkdawjukqrhjba67iasenp5pxa-story.html"]Kristian Winfield @ New York Daily News[/URL]
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Barrett for Mitchell
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE] [URL="https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswire/pr_newswire_technology/yext-appoints-nba-standout-shane-battier-to-its-board-of-directors/article_8b3d8982-3613-5fd6-a6ec-c4465128676e.html"]Yext, Inc., the AI Search Company, today announced that it has appointed Shane Battier, Vice President of Basketball Development and Analytics of the Miami Heat for over five years, to its Board of Directors,[/URL] effective June 30, 2021.
– via [URL="https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswire/pr_newswire_technology/yext-appoints-nba-standout-shane-battier-to-its-board-of-directors/article_8b3d8982-3613-5fd6-a6ec-c4465128676e.html"]WFMZ[/URL]
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guess he's out