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A look at the roster pre FA
Gobert/Udoka
O'Neale
Bojan/Oni(Non guarantee)/Hughes
Mitchell/Clarkson/MaCio Teague(Exhibit 10)
Ingles/Butler(assuming he is signed to at least a partially guaranteed deal?)
UFA - Conley, Niang, Ersan, Morgan, Thomas
RFA - Brantley, Forrest
7 guaranteed contracts, 9 camp spots left, 2 two way spots open
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[QUOTE] Mitch Lawrence: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Besides trying to trade Ben Simmons, the Sixers are shopping Tobias Harris. The Rockets are one of the teams that turned down Harris, per sources[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Mitch_Lawrence"]Twitter Mitch_Lawrence[/URL]
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Clarkson and Favors would have been close
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Tony East: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Pacers just announced their summer league roster: Goga Bitadze, Bennie Boatwright, Jordan Bone, Amida Brimah, Oshae Brissett, Chris Duarte, Terry Henderson, BJ Johnson, Devin Robinson, Cassius Stanley, Keifer Sykes, Terry Taylor, Tyrone Wallace, Duane Washington Jr[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TEastNBA"]Twitter TEastNBA[/URL]
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Keith Smith: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Philadelphia 76ers have issued a qualifying offer to Rayjon Tucker,[/URL] making him a restricted free agent, sources tell @spotrac.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA"]Twitter KeithSmithNBA[/URL]
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50216018/jazz-free-agency-primer-utah-has-an-owner-willing-to-spend-but-what-exactly-are-the-options[/url]
[QUOTE]Here's the dream scenario:
Re-sign Mike Conley
Find a rotation player with the taxpayer midlevel exception ($5.9 million)
Find enough players that will sign for minimum deals to fill out the rest of the roster.
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get rid of Clarkson. Use trade exceptions and put the best team around Gobert regardless of cost
[QUOTE]If Conley does choose to leave, the Jazz will only really have the mid-level exception to replace him, and that wouldn't yield a point guard close to Conley's ability. A perk of [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/50214913/utah-jazz-trade-derrick-favors-to-thunder-in-cost-cutting-move"]shedding Derrick Favors' contract [/URL](besides just saving Smith some money — around $40 million, mind you), is the team may have the non-taxpayers exception ($9.5 million), but that still probably wouldn't be enough to land a true starter, let alone an All-Star.
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can get a starter for that. More than O'Neale makes
[QUOTE]Would Milwaukee's Bobby Portis, fresh off a championship run with the Bucks, be willing to come to Utah for the taxpayer midlevel? What about Nic Batum, who revitalized his career with the Clippers? Would it be worth it for the Jazz to use the exception to bring back Georges Niang?
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don't need to use it on Niang. Can sign him anyway
[QUOTE]Utah overpaid for Favors last offseason; eight months later, it used a first-round pick to get out of his deal. The Jazz also [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/50216003/utah-jazz-waive-shooting-guard-matt-thomas"]waived Matt Thomas[/URL] just a few months after using a second-round pick to get him from Toronto. Those are the types of moves the Jazz don't want to replicate: Ones that end in negative value.
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good luck
[QUOTE]After the second-round flame out, it's been hard for some fans to remember how the Jazz were among the best in the league this season. But the Jazz are close. A couple moves could very well move the Jazz from among the best to the best.
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a couple moves that it doesn't sound like are happening. New coach and new 6th man
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50216003/utah-jazz-waive-shooting-guard-matt-thomas[/url]
[QUOTE]Thomas, who had shot 45.7% from 3-point territory over the course of three seasons with the Toronto Raptors, appeared in 19 games for the Jazz and shot just 25.6% (10 for 39) from deep. Without his shooting, he was simply unplayable.
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well who knows what he would have done if he'd played with rotation players and not in garbage time. Amazing what playing with the best players does for soemone
[QUOTE]It's yet another sign that last year's additions to the team were mostly a bust. The Jazz spent a second round pick for a half-season of Thomas, drafted a center that wasn't expected to play, and the Jazz just [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/50214913/utah-jazz-trade-derrick-favors-to-thunder-in-cost-cutting-move"]used a future first-round pick[/URL] in order to get out of Derrick Favors' $9.7 million salary after he signed a new deal with the Jazz in November.
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Favors was a bust as expected. Hard to say that about guys who didn't get a chance because of the coach
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/1/22602446/utah-jazz-mailbag-free-agency-and-offseason-questions-answered-mle-tmle-luxury-tax-derrick-favors[/url]
[QUOTE]By trading Favors, he gets his full salary paid to him and the Jazz aren’t the ones footing the bill.
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they foot the bill in a 1st rounder
[QUOTE][INDENT] Hey Sarah. I think the Jazz played the draft brilliantly. They got an amazing talent in Jared Butler. My question is this. They traded down to 40 and still got him, did they somehow have solid Intel that no one was going to grab him before then or were they just lucky?
— DavidHughes (@davidhughes1113) [URL="https://twitter.com/davidhughes1113/status/1421908189767880708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]August 1, 2021[/URL] [/INDENT][/QUOTE]
I'd say they thought it was worth the risk and that they liked some other guys enough to risk losing him for the extra picks which they need with all of the ones they've been giving up the past couple years
[QUOTE]The Jazz are looking for positional versatility. So I feel like they’ll try to find someone that can play a stretch or small ball five. That will likely be the main plan for backup center minutes.
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Need a starting 4 that could play the small ball 5 role and a veteran traditional big ideally
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/1/22603642/film-breakdown-jared-butler-deep-dive[/url]
[QUOTE]Butler’s shooting form off the catch is pure, smooth, and consistent. He has a textbook release and a strong base.
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looks like they might have to tweak his release like they did with Ingles. It starts low
[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz love the pick & roll. Every guard and most of the wings on the team are frequently asked to create from it. Fortunately, Jared Butler knows how to do just that. He is a versatile scorer in the pick & roll. As we’ve seen, defenses have to go over the screen or hedge hard not to allow Butler to pull up. He can also get to the paint or his floater. Butler is incredibly patient and poised, and he keeps his eyes up with a live dribble looking for driving or passing lanes. He’s creative in the lane. He can manipulate the defense with his eyes to get himself or his teammates open.
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looks like he could be another option besides Mike and Joe in the pick and roll which would be nice
[QUOTE] Jared Butler is a capable finisher at the rim. He shows his basketball IQ with his crafty finishes around rim protectors. He’s patient, smart, and skillful in the way he gets to the basket. He can avoid contact with acrobatic layups or create space with the threat of his passing ability. He uses cuts, pump-fakes, pass-fakes, and a myriad of dribble moves to get into the lane. He can finish with either hand on either side of the basket.
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he's not Rubio or Exum!
[QUOTE]It’s hard to predict whether Butler will get a rotation spot with the Jazz this year. He’s certainly one of the most NBA-ready rookies in this year’s class, but he is still a rookie. The Jazz have a loaded backcourt of Donovan Mitchell, Jordan Clarkson, and (hopefully) Mike Conley, so minutes at the guard position will be hard to come by. If there are injuries, Butler will definitely see the court.
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Clarkson is hardly loaded. This guys is already better. Looks like a great fit. How his lack of length affects him and his injuries are the big questions
[QUOTE]If he can fight his way into the rotation, Butler will likely play as a secondary creator, a spot-up shooter, and a primary defender. If he can do those three things at a high level, it will be hard for Quin Snyder to keep him off the court.
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won't be hard for COTY to keep anyone off the court. He didn't go to Duke so he has his work cut out for him
[QUOTE]We now know that Q didn’t think that our bench were not NBA caliber players. And therefore, I would imagine he had no interested in developing them since there has been friction between him and DL. Hopefully moving forward things may be different. I am super excited we have Butler. Possibly our best pure draft pick since AK47 (DM and Gobert were not our draft picks) Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/statpower"]statpower[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/1/22603642/film-breakdown-jared-butler-deep-dive#543169679"]Aug 1, 2021 | 1:01 PM[/URL] [/QUOTE]
they were the Jazz draft picks after they were traded to them. Sounds like COTY refused to play guys and sabotaged them the past two seasons just to get Lindsey fired.. Unreal!
[QUOTE]Joe can be a true wing [/QUOTE]
We'll see. Ingles should have the ball until this guy proves otherwise. Forrest looked good too if he could only shoot
[QUOTE] Means Jazz have two positions that need to be filled.
The best Stretch 4, small ball Center they can get for the TMLE
Anyone have any Ideas?
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/AdMan59"]AdMan59[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/1/22603642/film-breakdown-jared-butler-deep-dive#543179672"]Aug 1, 2021 | 5:14 PM[/URL]
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Starting 4/small ball 5/traditional 5/backup 4/deep bench depth everywhere
[QUOTE][h=4]YES. SO YES.[/h] I’d love if they managed to sign Theis as backup C/PF. I’ve always really liked the dude.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ikerex88"]ikerex88[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/1/22603642/film-breakdown-jared-butler-deep-dive#543187124"]Aug 1, 2021 | 10:57 PM[/URL]
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yep like him too
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/01/utah-jazz-stacked-backcourt-nba-best/[/url]
[QUOTE]Now, by adding Baylor national champ Jared Butler via [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/07/30/utah-jazz-draft-score-franchise-lore/"]a slick steal[/URL] at Thursday’s NBA Draft, Utah ought to have two promising young guards at its disposal. The other is a projected second-year Jazz reserve in Trent Forrest, who often looked like a fast learner while filling in when Mitchell and Conley sat out the homestretch of the regular season.
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Forrest has his work cut out for him to get a contract after this pick. Too bad Forrest can't play yet or we could see them go head to head in summer league
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[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2021/08/01/nba-predicting-top-free-agents-lowry/8/[/url]
Conley behind Derozan and Ball :roll:
[QUOTE]Mike Conley may have been injured for the Utah Jazz in the NBA playoffs, but I believe that this is still a player that could have an impact on a really good team. Conley is far removed from his prime, and his best years of basketball are likely behind him. Still, he proved to be a valuable player for a team that finished with the best record in the regular season.
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coming off arguably his best season :facepalm
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As is the case with Paul, [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746050/2021/08/02/nba-free-agency-preview-lakers-and-clippers-options-latest-on-kawhi-leonard-and-chris-paul-and-more/?source=rss"]front-office sources widely believe Mike Conley will stay put in Utah.[/URL] And if that’s the case, as so many expect, then the Jazz have ample reason to celebrate.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746050/2021/08/02/nba-free-agency-preview-lakers-and-clippers-options-latest-on-kawhi-leonard-and-chris-paul-and-more/?source=rss"]Sam Amick @ The Athletic[/URL]
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He has so much to work on offensively to start pulling his weight as a max player, but as a defender, it’s hard to find a weakness in him. “I know Gobert is Gobert and he blocks a lot of shots and does everything, but Simmons is so disruptive,” one coach told us as he explained his Defensive Player of the Year vote. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2745318/2021/08/02/anonymous-nba-coaches-poll-2020-21-best-defenders/?source=emp_shared_article"]“You can’t go wrong with either guy, but the versatility with Simmons is what put him over the top for me.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2745318/2021/08/02/anonymous-nba-coaches-poll-2020-21-best-defenders/?source=emp_shared_article"]Jon Krawczynski, Josh Robbins, Jon Krawczynski and Josh Robbins @ The Athletic[/URL]
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[URL="https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/08/tyler-lydon-says-this-stint-with-boeheims-army-will-end-basketball-playing-career.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=syracuse_sf"]Tyler Lydon considers this Boeheim’s Army run his final salute as a basketball player. The former Syracuse basketball forward, the former No. 24 pick of the 2017 NBA Draft, is nursing a sore right hip and a sore left knee.[/URL] He needs surgery to repair both physical issues. “I’m supposed to have a surgery on my hip. I have a torn labrum and my bones are rubbing,” he said Sunday after Boeheim’s Army had escaped the Dayton Arena with another Elam Ending victory. “And then my left knee I have another torn meniscus and I have no cartilage in there. So, I’ve gotta get another surgery on that, too.”
– via [URL="https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/08/tyler-lydon-says-this-stint-with-boeheims-army-will-end-basketball-playing-career.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=syracuse_sf"]Donna Ditota @ The Post-Standard[/URL]
He re-tore the meniscus two months ago and received a cortisone injection to dull the pain so he could play in The Basketball Tournament. Sometimes, he feels the soreness, other times it’s manageable. The hip doesn’t seem to be as problematic these days. [URL="https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/08/tyler-lydon-says-this-stint-with-boeheims-army-will-end-basketball-playing-career.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=syracuse_sf"]“It is what it is. Just fighting through it. This is my last time lacing ’em up so I just figured I’d come out there and have fun,” he said. “My body’s taken a toll. I’ve already had knee surgery and I need two more surgeries. It’s enough for me.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/08/tyler-lydon-says-this-stint-with-boeheims-army-will-end-basketball-playing-career.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=syracuse_sf"]Donna Ditota @ The Post-Standard[/URL]
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Going back to Neto possibly getting a raise from the $1.8 million he made last year in Washington. After setting career-highs across the board, including in scoring and efficiency, [URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2021-nba-free-agency-point-guard-tops-list-wizards"]Neto is going to get a good deal of interest. According to sources around the league, the Knicks kept coming up as likely suitors[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2021-nba-free-agency-point-guard-tops-list-wizards"]Chase Hughes @ NBC Sports[/URL]
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Jason Quick: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Blazers announce staff of coach Chauncey Billups: Scott Brooks, Roy Rogers, Steve Hetzel, Ednisha Curry and Milt Palacio. Parker Hines will be video coordinator[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/jwquick"]Twitter jwquick[/URL]
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[url]https://twitter.com/kslsports/status/1422234840217231364/photo/1[/url]
The A team with Udoka, Brantley, Forrest, Hughes, Morgan, and Stars White and Castlin
B team might suck!
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Otto Porter Jr. and Rudy Gay are two players the Jazz hold interest in. But those names also come with caveats. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Gay is thought to be leaning toward the Los Angeles Lakers[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic
[/URL] [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Otto Porter is thought to be leaning to the Brooklyn Nets.[/URL] In free agency, anything can happen.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
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[QUOTE] So, there are open roster spots. And, of course, the Jazz traded Derrick Favors to the Oklahoma City Thunder. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Favors will meet with Thunder brass on Tuesday, according to league sources. The result of that meeting will probably determine whether OKC plans to keep Favors on its roster for the upcoming season, or if the two sides will pursue another trade for Favors[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
The Jazz did not extend a qualifying offer to forward Juwan Morgan, [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]although sources say the Jazz are keeping an open door on Morgan’s return[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
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why bring someone back that the coach won't play? Maybe he will play him now that he got Lindsey fired at the cost of two straight playoff losses?
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[QUOTE] As for those who were in the rotation last season, league sources indicate that it’s highly unlikely that Georges Niang will return to the team. Niang, who was a valuable role player off the bench for Utah last season, will be an unrestricted free agent. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]He is expected to garner significant interest on the market, according to sources[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
[URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]League sources indicate the Jazz, who will be deep into the luxury tax this coming season, have a willingness to use their taxpayer’s midlevel exception.[/URL] That willingness comes with a caveat. They won’t use it for the sake of using it. That means that they want to use it on a player who they have identified as a primary target.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
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assumed he wouldn't be back. Hopefully they'll get someone who can shoot and defend since he was one of the few that did actually defend
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latest update after Conley signing
Gobert/Udoka
O'Neale
Bojan/Oni(Non guarantee)/Hughes
Mitchell/Clarkson/MaCio Teague(Exhibit 10)
Conley/Ingles/Butler(assuming he is signed to at least a partially guaranteed deal?)
UFA - Niang, Ersan, Morgan, Thomas
RFA - Brantley, Forrest
9 guaranteed contracts, 8 camp spots left, 2 two way spots open
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TJ saying Niang is likely gone, which isn't a total surprise given he won't be signing for the minimum anymore. Wouldn't hate to see them bring Ersan back though.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong;14410845]TJ saying Niang is likely gone, which isn't a total surprise given he won't be signing for the minimum anymore. Wouldn't hate to see them bring Ersan back though.[/QUOTE]
I was saying during the season that Niang was going to be gone. He's earned a payday and with the tax he'd too expensive now. Even if he had showed up in the playoffs I think he would have been. Hopefully they can get someone else that can shoot and defend.
Would love to have Ersan back but if the coach won't play him how much sense does it make?
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[QUOTE] [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746229/2021/08/03/warriors-nba-free-agency-patty-mills/?source=rss"]If Jazz forward Joe Ingles is indeed available for trade, sources say the Warriors do have interest — just no good way to get him.[/URL] Ingles, approaching 34, fits the Warriors’ need for a veteran and another offensive playmaker. His passing would fit perfectly with the Warriors. He can run point forward and spot up off the ball, making him viable with the starters and the second unit. He’s got 45 playoff games under his belt. He shot a career-best 45.1 percent from 3 on a career-high 6.1 attempts per game — his third season at 44 percent or above. He’s also reputed for being a great guy and would add to the culture of the locker room.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746229/2021/08/03/warriors-nba-free-agency-patty-mills/?source=rss"]Marcus Thompson II @ The Athletic[/URL]
[URL="https://theathletic.com/2746229/2021/08/03/warriors-nba-free-agency-patty-mills/?source=rss"]The most viable option to get Ingles is to see where Oubre Jr. signs and try to convert it into a sign-and-trade.[/URL] In that scenario, the Warriors would get a traded player exception in exchange for Oubre and they could use that exception to get Ingles, if he is available. But that’s adding $13 million (plus the repeater tax) to what is already the league’s highest payroll. Ingles is good, but is he good enough for Lacob to stomach the added cost? The Warriors could keep the TPE for potential use later, but the same question would come up.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746229/2021/08/03/warriors-nba-free-agency-patty-mills/?source=rss"]Marcus Thompson II @ The Athletic[/URL]
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trade him to the east at least. Not sure I want Oubre
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Marc Stein: The [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Timberwolves officially announce the completion of their trade of Ricky Rubio to CLEVELAND for Taurean Prince,[/URL] cash and a 2022 second-round pick.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine"]Twitter TheSteinLine[/URL]
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Keith Smith: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Team USA will play Australia in the Olympics Semifinals.[/URL] Thursday 8/5 at 12:15 AM ET. Gonna be another late night!
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA"]Twitter KeithSmithNBA[/URL]
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[QUOTE] Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Luis Scola got an extended standing ovation from everyone in the Olympic Arena including Joe Ingles and the Australian National Team[/URL] as the 2004 gold medalist will likely see his international career come to an end.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
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Always liked him. Quite a run!
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[QUOTE] Gary Washburn: Gobert finishes with a 360 dunk. Don’t know if I’ve ever seen him do that in the NBA. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]FRA 84, ITA 75 Final.[/URL] Faces Slovenia on Thursday. #Tokyo2020
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe"]Twitter GwashburnGlobe[/URL]
Joe Vardon: In only the latest head-slapping IOC moment, [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ricky Rubio, after dropping 38 on Team USA, couldn’t do the postgame press conference because he had to take a drug test[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/joevardon"]Twitter joevardon[/URL]
Keith Pompey: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The #Sixers plan to waive point guard George Hill,[/URL] a league source confirms.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers"]Twitter PompeyOnSixers[/URL]
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the dunk was a nice exclamation point
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50216636/jazz-agree-to-terms-with-mike-conley-on-new-3-year-contract[/url]
[QUOTE]With fellow All-Stars Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert's new extensions kicking in this season, the Jazz were already over the salary cap before negotiations ever began Monday. The Jazz can go over the cap to retain their own free agents (though that comes with a hefty luxury tax cost), but can only use two exceptions — the taxpayer mid-level exception (about $5.9 million) and the minimum salary exception — to sign new players
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trade exceptions!
[QUOTE]If the Jazz had lost Conley, they couldn't have even pursued Kyle Lowry, Chris Paul or any of the other top free agent guards to replace him. With the options available to the team, Conley's production would have been downright impossible to replace, so Monday's news was a win for the franchise. It might not be someone new, but it's a signing that should help keep the Jazz's championship window open.
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he was a a bargain considering how much those guys got
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[url]https://kslsports.com/465051/exum-ingles-shine-in-olympic-quarterfinal-for-australia/[/url]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/465047/rudy-gobert-leads-france-to-olympic-semifinals-in-win-over-italy/[/url]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/465010/azubuike-brantley-hughes-looking-to-show-improvement-at-summer-league/[/url]
[QUOTE]Azubuike was the team’s first-round draft pick last season but was saddled on the bench behind superstar Rudy Gobert and veteran Derrick Favors. Favors was traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder to lower the Jazz luxury tax bill, leaving an open spot behind Gobert in the Jazz rotation.
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behind Morgan and Ersan as well and maybe Brantley
[QUOTE]Both Brantley and Hughes could see themselves competing for an open roster spot if free-agent forward Georges Niang signs elsewhere. Niang is a knockdown shooter and is expected to receive significant interest from opposing teams which could price the Jazz out of the forward’s services.
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Hughes has a guaranteed contract
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/3/22605912/olympics-roundup-damian-lillard-usa-basketball-beat-spain-in-quarterfinals-despite-ricky-rubio-38[/url]
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/3/22607716/reports-rudy-gay-signing-with-utah-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]On Tuesday morning, those fans got their wish, as The Athletic’s Shams Charania and ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reported that the Jazz and Gay have agreed to a two-year deal, with a player option on the second year.
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I assume he got the big exception though they might be able to do a sign and trade with a trade exception? Former Conley teammate. Hopefully works out better than Green. A starting 4! Bojan to the bench? Trade Clarkson?
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/2/22605097/what-does-mike-conley-re-signing-mean-for-the-utah-jazz-nba-free-agency-donovan-mitchell[/url]
[QUOTE]This all comes with the caveat and understanding that Conley’s recent hamstring issues are not to be ignored. There is real concern there, especially with Conley being nearer to the end of his playing career. But with the right conditioning and management throughout the season, the Jazz should be able to deliver Conley to the playoffs healthy.
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maybe but who cares if he can't play during the playoffs
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update after Gay signing
Gobert/Udoka
Gay/O'Neale(He should still start at the 3 if they have a clue)
Bojan(Should be headed to the bench)/Oni(Non guarantee)/Hughes
Mitchell/Clarkson(Should be headed out of town)/MaCio Teague(Exhibit 10)
Conley/Ingles/Butler(assuming he is signed to at least a partially guaranteed deal?)
UFA - Niang, Ersan, Morgan, Thomas
RFA - Brantley, Forrest
10 guaranteed contracts, 7 camp spots left, 2 two way spots open
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/2/22605907/report-mike-conley-resigning-with-utah-jazz-on-3-year-deal[/url]
[QUOTE]A hamstring injury sidelined Conley during the Jazz’s second-round series against the Los Angeles Clippers, however. It was widely thought that the Jazz would have had a better chance to move on in the playoffs had Conley been available to play.
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you think?
[QUOTE]Now that Conley’s future with the team is secured, the Jazz can use the rest of free agency to figure out how to fill out the rest of the roster, possibly with a small-ball center and rangy wing defenders.[/QUOTE]
starting 4 is taken care of. I'd say a small ball center and a traditional center ideally. Maybe a backup to Gay. O'Neale concentrates on the wing where he belongs instead of rebounding
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[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/a-breakdown-of-10-possible-free-agents-for-the-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]Analysis: Bringing Brantley back next season is an absolute no brainer. He isn’t elite at anything yet, but he’s shown flashes of being really good at a lot of things and he shot 43% from three last season in limited attempts. He’s one of the most versatile defenders in the NBA and he’s good at it. He spent at least 17% of his defensive possessions last season guarding every position except for point guard. On top of all of that, with his uncertain NBA future, I think that Brantley would be willing to sign a year at, or close to the minimum, if not for multiple years. He’s the perfect guy to bet on cracking the rotation eventually at low cost to the team. I think he’s going to have a long career in the NBA.
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How is it a no brainer? He did everything you could ask as a rookie making first team all Gleague on one of the two best teams in the league. Got him another two way contract instead of a guarantee that they gave to Hughes who doesn't impress me at all. The coach refused to play him no matter how much other guys sucked though the few times he did get quality minutes he showed he could play all while improving his biggest weakness shooting
[QUOTE]Analysis: Rudy Gay provides 90% of everything that Nic Batum would provide, but instead of a connection with Rudy Gobert, he has one with Mike Conley from their days with Memphis over 5 seasons. Gay is a good 3 point shooter, with ability to also shoot in the midrange. He’s also an underrated defender who spent 40% and 15% of his defensive possessions last season guarding power forwards and centers, respectively. But he’s destined to end up in LA.[/QUOTE]
small ball center I guess!
[QUOTE][h=3]9. Robin Lopez[/h][/QUOTE]
like him
[QUOTE]Analysis: Niang is a great guy, who is beloved by both teammates and Jazz fans alike. He’s a great spot up shooter, although he offers very little else offensively. He has maximized his defensive ability, but lacks versatility there that the Jazz need. I would think his return to the Jazz would be likely, except I think his new agent will seek a payday for him, and the Jazz probably don’t want to pay more than close to the minimum for Niang’s services.[/QUOTE]
actually very skilled offensively as he showed with the Stars. Probably their best post player. Can run pick and roll.
think Frank is the only other one left from the list?
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Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/2/22606642/mike-conley-signs-3-year-deal-worth-between-68-and-72-5-million-with-the-utah-jazz-free-agency[/url]
[QUOTE]Perhaps the number from Woj is accounting for incentives? Regardless of the difference in numbers, this is around the number Jazz fans had been expecting from multiple reports leading up to today.
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that's what I was thinking
[QUOTE]It’s a nice deal for the Jazz who could have seen Conley get a big market with teams like the [URL="https://www.mavsmoneyball.com"]Dallas Mavericks[/URL] looking to get a quality guard to play next to Luka Doncic. That was also the reason this number rose to what it is.
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I'd say he took a discount considering what Paul and Lowrt got
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[h=4]Gay
[QUOTE]Wow! Two-year, $12.1M deal, with a player option.[/h] I guess that’s the MLE.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/2/22606642/mike-conley-signs-3-year-deal-worth-between-68-and-72-5-million-with-the-utah-jazz-free-agency#543248090"]Aug 3, 2021 | 9:51 AM[/URL]
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[h=4]That seems like a lot for Gay.[/h]
He isn’t very good. I’d take him with a minimum deal, but now our MLE is gone. And why a player option? That should be a team option in year 2.
Ugh.
No more tools for significant moves without trading away key players.
Still hoping for Cousins and Exum on minimums. . .
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/2/22606642/mike-conley-signs-3-year-deal-worth-between-68-and-72-5-million-with-the-utah-jazz-free-agency#543248231"]Aug 3, 2021 | 9:54 AM[/URL]
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trade exceptions. Clarkson/Hughes is what I'd be looking to move [h=4][/h]
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Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/worst-nba-free-agency-contracts-paul-conley-robinson-mcdermott-fournier-01fc5bet624q?utm_source=RSS[/url]
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Again, I get the sentimental connection but overpaying for aging, oft-injured guards is never a good idea. The [URL="https://www.thebiglead.com/nba/team/utah-jazz"]Utah Jazz[/URL] fell into that trap just like the Suns did. When he's on the floor, [URL="https://www.thebiglead.com/nba/player/mike-conley"]Mike Conley[/URL] is a big part of what Utah does and is a solid floor general. But he hasn't played more than 70 games in seven seasons.
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looks like an underpay. Coming off one of his best years. The injuries are concerning but they really had no choice
[QUOTE]When healthy, Conley was a solid starter last season for the Jazz. He averaged 16.2 points, 6.0 assists and 3.5 rebounds while playing 29.4 minutes per game. But he also missed 21 regular season games and was absent for most of Utah's playoff series against the [URL="https://www.thebiglead.com/nba/team/los-angeles-clippers"]Los Angeles Clippers[/URL].
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solid all star! :lol