Florida mother to be evicted from home unless she gets vaccinated

[QUOTE=tontoz;14439993]LOL it is obviously different. You aren't going to die from being gay and it isn't contagious.

Frankly on thinking about this further i wonder if there actually are specific laws related to landlord requiring vaccination status. When would this have come up in the past? We may be in virgin territory here.

The more i look at this the more i think it is a case of TBD. I don't think it is clear cut either way. Google searches aren't turning up anything definitive. It might take a court case to find out for sure.[/QUOTE]

And you aren't going to die from Covid either! At least you have a 98.7% chance of not dying. Or is it 99.7%? :lol


First it was lockdowns. You can't leave your house. Now it's you can't even live in your house. When does the overreach end??

[QUOTE=tontoz;14439920]No it isn't. [B]An employer or landlord has the right to require vaccinations[/B]. That isn't open for debate.

With 2 children she chose to be homeless rather than get vaccinated. She made her choice.

Would you make that same choice in her shoes?[/QUOTE]

Of course he does.

We know this isn't against the law.

I'm asking you if you think that sets a healthy precedent.

Stop dodging the question by making it about a woman who does not want to be vaccinated, something half the country doesn't want to. Thats a non-story.

Maybe you can't relate, but most people won't change their belief just because they're given a hard choice.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14439984][B]Lol have you never heard of descrimination based on race, religion or sexual orientation being illegal? Are you really trying.to compare that to vaccination status?[/B]

Wow

I don't own any rental properties so I haven't looked into the tenant laws about vaccines.

In theory she could have chosen to challenge the eviction legally. At the very least it would buy her more time to find a place. But she chose homelessness.

Boo friggin hoo.[/QUOTE]


Those are also unconstitutional, obviously. The reason they exist is big corps want everyone working for them. Prohibiting discrimination keeps smaller business from garnering popular support by being exclusionary. Like most regulations, it's a competitive clamp used by big businesses with lobby money. Not because old, white political opportunists in Washington have a conscience about employment diversity.

Money is the only reason things happen in Washington. That's what the Big Gov/Media vax push is all about. Wealth puppets like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris dont care about your health. You know that. Individuals can have their various opinions about Covid and take their respective measures, but when gov and media are all-in for social distancing, travel prohibitions, vaccine mandates etc, the entire thing is about money. Period. The landlord here can invoke medical discrimination if he wants, but then there should be no legal reason he cant invoke other discrimination. The law will pick and choose which discrimination is okay based on the agenda of the people in charge. It's all - and ONLY - about money, profits, business, bucks.

It's your prerogative if you wanna defend it, but acting like one discrimination is okay but another is not... sounds pretty phony. You obviously want to be in the good graces of a particular side of this vax issue. You think supporting Big Gov/Big Pharm/Big Media/Big Washington gives you the best chances for whatever social mobility you personally seek, so youre drinking their kool-aid. Well, fair enough. You have a Wiz avi and presumable ties to DC, so it isnt surprising. That's how it goes in those parts. You sound like a blowhard political mercenary, not someone concerned with government overreach and equal treatment under the law. But I concede your right to say/think as you wish, even though one day you'll likely be eagerly jumping up and down cheering as that right is revoked from me.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14439996]And you aren't going to die from Covid either! At least you have a 98.7% chance of not dying. Or is it 99.7%? :lol


First it was lockdowns. You can't leave your house. Now it's you can't even live in your house. When does the overreach end??[/QUOTE]

It wasnt her house, hence the problem. If she owned the house her vax status would be irrelevant.

Searching for a definite answer i am coming up with nothing. All i am seeing is a bunch of opinions. It is entirely possible that there aren't laws on the books to cover this scenario. If there are any i can't find them. I don't care enough to keep looking.

We'll just have to wait and see how this plays out.

Just a reminder that tontoz does not know the absolute risk reduction of hospitalization and death after being vaccinated with Covid-19 (aka the supposed benefits of becoming vaccinated).

And not only is he a huge fan of the Trump Vaccine, but also a big fan of Trump's guidelines on social distancing, masking, travel bans, etc, yet cumulatively there are no known infections prevented by those NPIs.


[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440006]Those are also unconstitutional, obviously. The reason they exist is big corps want everyone working for them. Prohibiting discrimination keeps smaller business from garnering popular support by being exclusionary. Like most regulations, it's a competitive clamp used by big businesses with lobby money. Not because old, white political opportunists in Washington have a conscience about employment diversity.

Money is the only reason things happen in Washington. That's what the Big Gov/Media vax push is all about. Wealth puppets like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris dont care about your health. You know that. Individuals can have their various opinions about Covid and take their respective measures, but when gov and media are all-in for social distancing, travel prohibitions, vaccine mandates etc, the entire thing is about money. Period. The landlord here can invoke medical discrimination if he wants, but then there should be no legal reason he cant invoke other discrimination. The law will pick and choose which discrimination is okay based on the agenda of the people in charge. It's all - and ONLY - about money, profits, business, bucks.

It's your prerogative if you wanna defend it, but acting like one discrimination is okay but another is not... sounds pretty phony. You obviously want to be in the good graces of a particular side of this vax issue. You think supporting Big Gov/Big Pharm/Big Media/Big Washington gives you the best chances for whatever social mobility you personally seek, so youre drinking their kool-aid. Well, fair enough. You have a Wiz avi and presumable ties to DC, so it isnt surprising. That's how it goes in those parts. You sound like a blowhard political mercenary, not someone concerned with government overreach and equal treatment under the law. But I concede your right to say/think as you wish, even though one day you'll likely be eagerly jumping up and down cheering as that right is revoked from me.[/QUOTE]

:applause:

[QUOTE=diamenz;14439766]this is what i don't get. the unvaccinated are not hurting the vaccinated. vaccinations don't stop spread, they solely prevent severe illness & death. [B]covid19 is endemic[/B]. where the F** are we going with all of this foolery? seriously, can someone help me out as to why it's so important for everybody else beside yourself to get vaccinated?[/QUOTE]

We tried asking similar questions to the vaccine salesmen (8ball, tontoz), but they couldn't come up with an answer.

[QUOTE=Cleverness;14433355]The bolded statement does not answer the basic questions I presented and it needs context. See this post here for more details: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497308-Anyone-believe-Covid-is-very-serious-but-at-same-time-the-vaccine-ain-t-doing-shit&p=14432305&viewfull=1#post14432305[/url]

Anyways, the basic questions I asked were never answered. I'll try again.

1) What is the absolute risk reduction for hospitalization/death after becoming fully vaccinated? You can break it down by age groups.

[B]2a) Suppose the unvaccinated (group A) are forced to become vaccinated. How many from group A would have to become vaccinated to save 1 life from the group that voluntarily chose to become vaccinated (group B)? And over what timeframe?

2b) Suppose forcing person A to be injected with a drug reduced the chances of person B to die by 0.001% over the course of 12 months. Would it be worth it to force person A to be injected? At what point would it be worth it?[/B]

3 & 4 are more directed at Tontoz for his absurd claims, but I'll list them again in case you happen to agree with his narrative regarding "overwhelmed hospitals" due to covid and the necessity to force masking and social distancing:

3a) How many infections did school closures prevent from March 2020 to June 2021?

3b) How many infections have masks prevented so far, or through June 2021?

4) There are 3,006 counties and 50 states in the US. How many counties & states had overwhelmed hospitals due to Covid-19 in 2020? 2021? Let's take a look at the data.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14440001]Of course he does.

We know this isn't against the law.

I'm asking you if you think that sets a healthy precedent.

Stop dodging the question by making it about a woman who does not want to be vaccinated, something half the country doesn't want to. Thats a non-story.

Maybe you can't relate, but most people won't change their belief just because they're given a hard choice.[/QUOTE]


Absolutely. I am totally on the landlord's side here. He owns the place. In theory he should be able to mandate vaccines which have been proven to save lives.

However after searching for relevant info I am not sure it would stand up to legal challenge. I can't find anything concrete.

There were a lot of people who didn't want to wear seatbelts either when they first became available even though they were proven to save lives. Wearing a seatbelt only protects you. People complained about their freedom. Govt finally said F your freedom and made them mandatory.

Of course even now there are people dying because they didn't wear their seatbelt.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440024]Absolutely.[B] I am totally on the landlord's side here. He owns the place. In theory he should be able to mandate vaccines which have been proven to save lives.[/B]

However after searching for relevant info I am not sure it would stand up to legal challenge. I can't find anything concrete.

There were a lot of people who didn't want to wear seatbelts either when they first became available even though they were proven to save lives. Wearing a seatbelt only protects you. [B]People complained about their freedom. Govt finally said F your freedom and made them mandatory.[/B]

Of course even now there are people dying because they didn't wear their seatbelt.[/QUOTE]


So which of these is right and which is wrong? Individual liberty or government intervention?

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440030]So which of these is right and which is wrong? Individual liberty or government intervention?[/QUOTE]


Neither is really the issue. They key issue is the collective good which can take priority over individual liberties.

It is really pathetic all the pansies complaining about mandatory vaccines. There used to be a draft in this country. Once a guy turned 18 his name went into the hat and if his number came up he went into the military. His rights didn't mean jack sh**.

A lot of those guys never came home, hundreds of thousands were killed. I wonder what they would think about these babies complaining about mandatory vaccines.

Back to the topic I texted my cousin about the OP. He owns several rental properties. FWIW he says he doesn't think a landlord would be able to mandate vaccines. He didn't elaborate though.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440036]Neither is really the issue. [B]They key issue is the collective good which can take priority over individual liberties.[/B]

It is really pathetic all the pansies complaining about mandatory vaccines. There used to be a draft in this country. Once a guy turned 18 his name went into the hat and if his number came up he went into the military. His rights didn't mean jack sh**.

A lot of those guys never came home, hundreds of thousands were killed. I wonder what they would think about these babies complaining about mandatory vaccines.

Back to the topic I texted my cousin about the OP. He owns several rental properties. FWIW he says he doesn't think a landlord would be able to mandate vaccines. He didn't elaborate though.[/QUOTE]

One could easily argue civil liberties are in the interest of the public good. That's the whole reason America came to exist, right? No central authority dictating our lifestyle and medical decisions with an iron fist, the way a place like Iran would. Dictatorship and oppression are human history and human tendency. Civil liberties are rare, and fragile. One can argue it's MORE important for the old/vulnerable to simply take extra precaution, than give such sweeping authority to partisan interests. Old people die sometimes. It sucks, and we dont like it to happen. But do we sacrifice the basic principles that uphold western democracy to keep an extra 3% of the elderly population alive?

In any case, "public good" isnt really for you to decide on a whim or based on partisan loyalties. The question is should the government decide or should individuals decide? You seem to switch your position based on who's taking the side you prefer. That's not consistent.

Also, as far as seatbelts... it's not the law that keeps most people wearing them. It's the obvious impact on surviving an accident. Speeding is also illegal, but people do that all the time. In the end it isn't the laws saving lives, it's common sense. People should also be able to exercise that when it comes to Covid. But you believe it's the place of special interests to decide for them it seems.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14439811]Where are all these stories? I don't recall seeing you post any.

If every state had a vaccination rate of 70% then things would be more normal. Idaho wouldn't have to ration healthcare for staters.[/QUOTE]
I have posted like 50 different articles of people suffering serious side effects/deaths in the other thread

Come on now, you still going to act oblivious to the fact that people are dying from these injections :facepalm

Obviously it's a very low chance but it's happening and for some people you're better off taking your chances with Covid (99.9% survival rate for under 50s) than getting the vaccine

[QUOTE]
In any case, "public good" isnt really for you to decide on a whim or based on partisan loyalties. The question is should the government decide or should individuals decid

[/QUOTE]


I never said it was for me to decide. In the case of a national emergency the government can decide to put the collective good ahead of civil liberties.

The govt could reinstitute the draft whenever they want. All it takes is an act of Congress and those young guys whining about vaccines would forget about the vaccine in a hurry.


[QUOTE]
Also, as far as seatbelts... it's not the law that keeps most people wearing them. It's the obvious impact on surviving an accident.

[/QUOTE]

If that was the case they wouldn't have to make them mandatory. The reason they made them mandatory is because a lot of people didn't wear them. They didn't like the govt infringing on their right to become a human meat missile. Too many people were getting seriously hurt or killed because they weren't wearing their seatbelt.

So now you get fined if you are caught not wearing one.

A global pandemic of this scale clearly qualifies as a national emergency. Just be glad you don't live in Australia. They are really putting the hammer down.

Luckily I live in a country where vaccines aren't being forced onto people, haven't touched a mask since March

Feel bad for the women, where's BLM when you need them :facepalm

[QUOTE=Manny98;14440055]I have posted like 50 different articles of people suffering serious side effects/deaths in the other thread

Come on now, you still going to act oblivious to the fact that people are dying from these injections :facepalm

Obviously it's a very low chance but it's happening and for some people you're better off taking your chances with Covid (99.9% survival rate for under 50s) than getting the vaccine[/QUOTE]


I've seen your articles. :oldlol:

You are a sucker for mindless propaganda. You abandoned them quickly when I pointed out the obvious flaws with them.

Then you turn around and say you aren't getting the vaccine because you are young and healthy. If that is the case then what is up with the mindless anti vax nonsense?

Do you want to post those SHOCKING articles again so I can debunk them again?

I'm the sucker for mindless propaganda?

You're literally posting blatantly fake propaganda articles talking about gunshot victims lining up outside of hospitals because they're being filled with Ivectimin overdosers :oldlol:

Come on now, admittedly some of my articles that I posted was probably fake anti vax propaganda but a lot of them were from credible sources/studies which have shown that they're side effects from these vaccines (Particularly the Pfizer vaccine) that we should be concerned about

[QUOTE=Manny98;14440070]I'm the sucker for mindless propaganda?

You're literally posting blatantly fake propaganda articles talking about gunshot victims lining up outside of hospitals because they're being filled with Ivectimin overdosers :oldlol:

Come on now, admittedly some of my articles that I posted was probably fake anti vax propaganda but a lot of them were from credible sources/studies which have shown that they're side effects from these vaccines (Particularly the Pfizer vaccine) that we should be concerned about[/QUOTE]


Which one of them was credible?

I already abandoned the OK ivermectin overdose story. Still no names of the victims so it certainly seems bogus.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440060]

If that was the case they wouldn't have to make them mandatory. The reason they made them mandatory is because a lot of people didn't wear them. [B]They didn't like the govt infringing on their right to become a human meat missile. Too many people were getting seriously hurt or killed because they weren't wearing their seatbelt.

So now you get fined if you are caught not wearing one.[/B]

A global pandemic of this scale clearly qualifies as a national emergency. Just be glad you don't live in Australia. They are really putting the hammer down.[/QUOTE]


There are fines for speeding, and fines for seatbelts. Way more people end up in court for speeding tickets than seatbelt tickets. This would indicate the public is not making their decisions based on the fine, but rather on the risk.

Anyway, you may continue being a fear monger for Big Government. Clearly none of us are going to convince the other to see things differently. Only thing I can say is I would imagine you must have some vested personal interest that motivates your position. Either Pharmaceutical holdings, or an internship with a Congressperson, or some kind of profitable reason youre on the side of special interest authoritarian fear mongers. If youre legitimately this hysterical about cheering on corrupt politicans and corporate exploitation with nothing of your own being gained... thatd be a pretty sad situation. Then youre basically R3 and bladefd etc. Guys who know one side will never care about them, and have to convince themselves to believe the BS the other side uses to pretend to care about them. Youre either acting in self interest from a position of strength, or youre weak and must cuck yourself to an imaginary rescuer. Because you definitely are not some beacon of altruism genuinely consumed with this degree of concern for public health. People who are putting on the kind of show you have the past few weeks are either covert profiteers or overcompensating posers trying to virtue signal their worthiness to the mainstream collective.

It’s one or the other big boy. You dont have to tell us which one. But we know it’s one of them. And theres no point in arguing the subject any further.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440084]There are fines for speeding, and fines for seatbelts. Way more people end up in court for speeding tickets than seatbelt tickets. This would indicate the public is not making their decisions based on the fine, but rather on the risk.

Anyway, you may continue on being a fear monger for Big Government. Clearly none of us are going to convince the other to see things differently. Only thing I can say is I would imagine you must have some vested personal interest that motivates your position. Either Pharmaceutical holdings, or an internship with with a Congressperson, or some kind of profitable reason youre on the side of special interest authoritarian fear mongers. If youre legitimately this hysterical about cheering on corrupt politicans and corporate exploitation with nothing of your own being gained... thatd be a pretty sad situation. Then youre basically R3 and bladefd etc. Guys who know one side will never care about them, and have to convince themselves to believe the BS the other side uses to pretend to care about them. Youre either acting in self interest from a position of strength, or youre weak and must cuck yourself to an imaginary rescuer. Because you definitely are not a beacon of altruism who is genuinely consumed with this degree of concern for public health. People who are putting on the kind of show you have the past few weeks are either covert profiteers or overcompensating posers trying to virtue signaling their worthiness of mainstream acceptance.

It’s one or the other big boy. You dont have to tell us which one. But we know it’s one of them. And theres no point in arguing the subject any further.[/QUOTE]


Right, it can't possibly be that I know people who work in healthcare, or that I am concerned about hospitals being forced to ration care. Overworked nurses are quiting in droves while you opine about big pharma.

Go stick your nose back up Lebron's ass where it belongs and stop pretending like you have a clue.

Hardcore Nazi tactics. Can't work, buy, sell, or even have a home without showing your papers and giving up all bodily autonamy for rushed unstudied government mandated injections. Unbelievable tio. What can we do?

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14439891]Scary to think people like tontoz exist[/QUOTE]

Yup... hardcore vax Nazi. Dude literally spends all day fear mongering. Total piece of shit.

[QUOTE=tpols;14440089]Hardcore Nazi tactics. Can't work, buy, sell, or even have a home without showing your papers and giving up all bodily autonamy for rushed unstudied government mandated injections. Unbelievable tio. What can we do?[/QUOTE]


You could move to Australia. I'll even help you pack.:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14439926]Show me where a landlord has a right to require vaccinations.


You don't get it because you're a ****ing tyrant. Someone is forcing her to do something she does not want to do as a FREE PERSON of planet ****ing Earth, and is being faced with eviction, with living on the streets because she is choosing what do with her own body. I'm sure you're pro-choice. But only when it comes to killing babies, right? Hypocrite.[/QUOTE]

:roll:

Tontoz will say landlords always required vaccines in the past. Its always been that way bro!

[QUOTE=tpols;14440096]:roll:

Tontoz will say landlords always required vaccines in the past. Its always been that way bro![/QUOTE]


Actually I doubt it has ever come up prior to this. If it has I can't find anything about it.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440075]Which one of them was credible?

I already abandoned the OK ivermectin overdose story. Still no names of the victims so it certainly seems bogus.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58380867[/url]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14439928]If I told tontoz to suck my c*ck or else I'd evict him, tontoz would be on his ****ing knees the c*cksucker that he is. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Damn straight. :lol

[video=youtube_share;FrNIFZ-TlJw]https://youtu.be/FrNIFZ-TlJw[/video]


Vid from Arkansas. Doctor talks about people quiting in the.middle of their shift. Nurses crying before they even start their shift.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440087]Right, it can't possibly be that I know people who work in healthcare, or that I am concerned about hospitals being forced to ration care. Overworked nurses are quiting in droves while you opine about big pharma.

Go stick your nose back up Lebron's ass where it belongs and stop pretending like you have a clue.[/QUOTE]

Where were all your posts during the opioid crisis? Where was your insistence that work places and welfare offices drug test? Drug users fill up hospitals and ambulances, too.

Where have your posts been about the obesity ‘epidemic?’ How many American hospitals are full of diabetics and smokers and all sorts of people with preventable ailments? Ahh, but no. Big business and gov make money off fast food and tobacco. Therein lies the rub. You cant make money selling a virus. But you can sure make money off a “cure.”

You just suddenly started caring about the American healthcare system (which has been very profitable to insiders) the past few weeks?

Lol.

Youre a cheerleading wh0re for obviously corrupt special interests, and it’s just very awkward bro. If you have a stake in it you should be required to declare it before arguing :lol

If you dont have a stake in it, you are a SERIOUS mule.

[QUOTE=Manny98;14440100][url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58380867[/url][/QUOTE]


Did you even read the article?

[QUOTE]
For instance, the UK has seen 195 reports of myocarditis among people who have received the Pfizer vaccine, at a rate of around five cases per million. Most of those cases have led to mild symptoms.
[/QUOTE]


5 cases of myocarditis per million, mostly mild.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440109]Did you even read the article?




5 cases of myocarditis per million, mostly mild.[/QUOTE]
5 reported cases, could be way more cases that go unreported

Of course Pfizer would try and downplay something like this

A healthy person dying from the vaccine is not a cause of concern considering that person would have likely still been alive if they didn't get vaccinated :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440107]Where were all your posts during the opioid crisis? Where was your insistence that work places and welfare offices drug test? Drug users fill up hospitals and ambulances, too.

Where have your posts been about the obesity ‘epidemic?’ How many American hospitals are full of diabetics and smokers and all sorts of people with preventable ailments? Ahh, but no. Big business and gov make money off fast food and tobacco. Therein lies the rub. You cant make money selling a virus. But you can sure make money off a “cure.”

Youre a cheerleading wh0re for obviously corrupt special interests, and it’s just very awkward bro. If you have a stake in it you should be required to declare it before arguing :lol

If you dont have a stake in it, you are a SERIOUS mule.[/QUOTE]



LOL.please when exactly did states declared CSC status.to fight obesity? Nurses aren't quiting their jobs because of smokers or diabetics.

All that methane from Lebron's anus has clearly compromised your cognitive functions.

[QUOTE=Manny98;14440112]5 reported cases, could be way more cases that go unreported

Of course Pfizer would try and downplay something like this

A healthy person dying from the vaccine is not a cause of concern considering that person would have likely still been alive if they didn't get vaccinated :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Your own link said she "probably" died from myocarditis but they hadn't confirmed it. Did you read any of the story at all?

[QUOTE]
Either Pharmaceutical holdings, or an internship with a Congressperson, or some kind of profitable reason youre on the side of special interest authoritarian fear mongers. If youre legitimately this hysterical about cheering on corrupt politicans and corporate exploitation with nothing of your own being gained... thatd be a pretty sad situation.
[/QUOTE]

I'm telling you bro. He's doing it for free. I WISH he was getting paid. That would make sense. This just proves we are doomed as a human race that people like this exist.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440115]Your own link said she "probably" died from myocarditis but they hadn't confirmed it. Did you read any of the story at all?[/QUOTE]

Are you being serious right now :roll:

You have to be employed by Pfizer or something there is no way you can defend the vaccine this hard :oldlol:

Like you're trying way too hard to convince us that the vaccine is 100% safe when it clearly isn't

[QUOTE=tpols;14440116]I'm telling you bro. He's doing it for free. I WISH he was getting paid. That would make sense. This just proves we are doomed as a human race that people like this exist.[/QUOTE]


People like me aren't the ones dropping dead

[QUOTE]
An Alabama couple who trashed vaccines on their YouTube channel died from COVID-19 within 3 weeks of each other
[/QUOTE]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-couple-trashed-vaccines-youtube-155144869.html[/url]

Their kids had to watch their parents die.

[QUOTE=Manny98;14440117]Are you being serious right now :roll:

You have to be employed by Pfizer or something there is no way you can defend the vaccine this hard :oldlol:

Like you're trying way too hard to convince us that the vaccine is 100% safe when it clearly isn't[/QUOTE]


I never said it was 100% safe that is just you make crap up yet again because you can't make a coherent argument.

Ohhhh noooo. If we don’t get the vax all the nurses will quit! There will be no nurses! The hospitals! The hospitals!!!!!

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440107]Where were all your posts during the opioid crisis? Where was your insistence that work places and welfare offices drug test? Drug users fill up hospitals and ambulances, too.

Where have your posts been about the obesity ‘epidemic?’ How many American hospitals are full of diabetics and smokers and all sorts of people with preventable ailments? Ahh, but no. Big business and gov make money off fast food and tobacco. Therein lies the rub. You cant make money selling a virus. But you can sure make money off a “cure.”

You just suddenly started caring about the American healthcare system (which has been very profitable to insiders) the past few weeks?

Lol.

Youre a cheerleading wh0re for obviously corrupt special interests, and it’s just very awkward bro. If you have a stake in it you should be required to declare it before arguing :lol

If you dont have a stake in it, you are a SERIOUS mule.[/QUOTE]

:roll:

He was nowhere to be found.

This is classic virtue signaling. The guy has attached his ego and whole identity to something just to save face that he really has nothing else going on in life.

NOBODY could spend all day every day doing this if they had responsibilities. We could pop in a couple times a day, here and there... nobody could go this hard without being the biggest loser ever. And I'm far from a winner but this bitch makes me look like an All Star. :lol

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440114]LOL.please when exactly did states declared CSC status.to fight obesity? Nurses aren't quiting their jobs because of smokers or diabetics.

All that methane from Lebron's anus has clearly compromised your cognitive functions.[/QUOTE]


Like I said, it is what it is. Not gonna keep trying to convince you to see the issue a certain way. I also have no personal beef with ya. Im just simply telling you how your posts sound from the outside. Nobody is this obsessed with the health of .05% of the population out of nowhere. Especially someone with a DC connection who has no history of posting about the obvious and profitable disregard of American health by the healthcare system prior to Covid.

I remember seeing the term “vax salesman” used somewhere in this thread, and that’s exactly how you come off. Somebody who’s got financial or political mobility tied to the vax game. Your appeal to the “public good” just sounds very insincere.

Again, thats just me sharing an honest perspective with you. Do as you please.

Oh and by the way?

Dont you even dare ****ing THINK about disrespecting Lebron.

Or I will stomp your testicles.

:cheers:

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440125]Like I said, it is what it is. Not gonna keep trying to convince you to see the issue a certain way. I also have no personal beef with ya. Im just simply telling you how your posts sound from the outside. Nobody is this obsessed with the health of .05% of the population out of nowhere. Especially someone with a DC connection who has no history of posting about the obvious and profitable disregard of American health by the healthcare system prior to Covid.

I remember seeing the term “vax salesman” used somewhere in this thread, and that’s exactly how you come off. Somebody who’s got financial or political mobility tied to the vax game. Your appeal to the “public good” just sounds very insincere.

Again, thats just me sharing an honest perspective with you. Do as you please.[/QUOTE]


I posted on here that I took the Pfizer vaccine. I also posted in the main virus thread that the moderna vaccine has been more effective


If I had financial ties to one or the other I would have made both posts.

Delta Airlines has already announced a surcharge of $200 per person starting in November for people who chose to remain unvaccinated. Their CEO said that COVID hospital stays are costing the $50k on average and all of his employees in the hospital for covid are unvaccinated.

Like it or not the.mandates and surcharges are coming. You clowns won't be able to do anything about it other than :cry:

I am going to enjoy it thoroughly.