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Re: Tom Brady to Retire
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14529752]The funny thing is, that Jaguars team had like a top 5 scoring offense that year and probably the best running team in the NFL. Didn't they drop like 45 points on the Steelers the week before or something? Shit, in the AFCCG the Pats D made Bortles look pretty damn good at times, it's one of the reasons why the Jaguars made the mistake in bringing him back the next year.
Also find it funny how you have Peyton Manning as pretty much the best QB in the super bowl era given all his choke jobs in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
In the playoffs
Brady vs Manning w Mangini 0-2
Brady vs Manning wo Mangini 3-0
So even Manning's "choke jobs" are iffy to me thanks to spygate.
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[QUOTE=John8204;14529761]In the playoffs
Brady vs Manning w Mangini 0-2
Brady vs Manning wo Mangini 3-0
So even Manning's "choke jobs" are iffy to me thanks to spygate.[/QUOTE]
You would have to be a fool to believe Manning's only choke jobs came against the Patriots. There are so many examples of him coming up short.
2002 - Embarrassing 41-0 loss where he threw under 150 yards and 2 picks
2005 - One and done despite being the #1 seed
2009 - Throws horrible picks 6 in the super bowl that cost them the game
2012 - One and done despite being the #1 seed. Throws terrible INT in OT that cost them the game
2013 - Got absolutely murdered in the super bowl
The 2 super bowls he won? Got carried by his defense.
2006 Manning in the playoffs - 3 TDs | 7 INTs | 71 QB rating
2015 Manning in the playoffs - 2 TDs | 1 INT | 75 QB rating
:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14529770]You would have to be a fool to believe Manning's only choke jobs came against the Patriots. There are so many examples of him coming up short.
2002 - Embarrassing 41-0 loss where he threw under 150 yards and 2 picks
2005 - One and done despite being the #1 seed
2009 - Throws horrible picks 6 in the super bowl that cost them the game
2012 - One and done despite being the #1 seed. Throws terrible INT in OT that cost them the game
2013 - Got absolutely murdered in the super bowl
The 2 super bowls he won? Got carried by his defense.
2006 Manning in the playoffs - 3 TDs | 7 INTs | 71 QB rating
2015 Manning in the playoffs - 2 TDs | 1 INT | 75 QB rating
:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
in 2006 The Colts were ranked 21st in Defense, he beat the number 1 defense that year (Ravens), and both #1 seeds (Bears, Patriots)
in 2015 The Broncos beat the AFC's #1 and #2 offenses (Steelers, Patriots) and a 15-1 Panthers team with the MVP
Oh but his numbers weren't good
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[QUOTE=John8204;14529774]in 2006 The Colts were ranked 21st in Defense, he beat the number 1 defense that year (Ravens), and both #1 seeds (Bears, Patriots)
in 2015 The Broncos beat the AFC's #1 and #2 offenses (Steelers, Patriots) and a 15-1 Panthers team with the MVP
Oh but his numbers weren't good[/QUOTE]
Yea, lets ignore the fact that the Broncos in 2015 had a legendary defense while Manning was the worst starting QB in the NFL at that point, even benched by Osweiler at one point.
That Colts defense held the Ravens to 6 points in 2006 while Manning threw for 170 yards and 2 INTs. And no, the Pats were not the #1 seed that year, that was the Chargers. Manning had a mediocre performance in the super bowl vs the Bears as well, the story of the game was the Colts defense holding the Bears offense to 7 points and only 265 yards. (Hester returned a kick off for a TD).
Manning was pretty mediocre in both postseasons.
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[QUOTE=John8204;14529707]Yes they only had 8 pro-bowlers that season
Tom Brady, QB
Wes Welker, WR
Matthew Slater, ST
Rob Gronkowski, TE
Logan Mankins, G
Brian Waters, G
Andre Carter, DE
Vince Wilfork, DT[/QUOTE]
i'm done speaking with you dumbass troll
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anways Brady always had an elite defense. I remember the legendary Mathew Slater lining up at FS in an AFC championship game
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I used to hate on Brady when he was making the Patriots surpass the Niners in Super Bowls but I have gotten over it and it is nice. It’s hilarious to watch whiny dumb shits like John and bladefd. Btw blade earlier in this thread legit complained about Tom Brady’s kickers. :roll: :roll:
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[QUOTE=John8204;14529774]in 2006 The Colts were ranked 21st in Defense, he beat the number 1 defense that year (Ravens), and both #1 seeds (Bears, Patriots)
in 2015 The Broncos beat the AFC's #1 and #2 offenses (Steelers, Patriots) and a 15-1 Panthers team with the MVP
Oh but his numbers weren't good[/QUOte]
The 2006 Colts team had 2 of the best pass rushers in the league (Freeny + Mathis) and they had Bob Sanders who had an INT and a forced fumble in that superbowl (he was hurt during for most of the regular season but played in all 4 playoff games... and he went on to win DMVP the following year). On offense Peyton was throwing at Marvin Harrison (hall of famer) and Reggie Wayne.
The 2015 Broncos won because they were ridiculous stacked on defense... Manning had 104 passing yards with zero TD and 2 turnovers in that game :oldlol: (despite having prime demaryius and emmanuel sanders to throw the ball to).
In Bradys entire career, did he ever once have a team as stacked with talent as the ones that carried Peyton in both of his championship years?
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[QUOTE=warriorfan;14530023]I used to hate on Brady when he was making the Patriots surpass the Niners in Super Bowls but I have gotten over it and it is nice. It’s hilarious to watch whiny dumb shits like John and bladefd. Btw blade earlier in this thread legit complained about Tom Brady’s kickers. :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
You're gonna love Brady next year, when the niners sign him mid-season to replace Garoppolo and he takes yall back to the superbowl
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[QUOTE=Nanners;14530376]You're gonna love Brady next year, when the niners sign him mid-season to replace Garoppolo and he takes yall back to the superbowl[/QUOTE]
I hope you are right. That would be incredible. We need him as bad as anyone right now.
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What a douchebag thing to do. It was douchey when Favre did it and its douchey now that Brady's doing it.
Giselle must be getting her own private island out of this.
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I am shocked SHOCKED that the GOAT the GREATEST OF ALL-TIME decided that he needed to announce on selection Sunday that he was crawling back to the NFL. It's almost like he's a little bitch who figures the heat will die down as the NCAA tournament rolls on.