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[QUOTE=red1;14584245]another L for 3ball. kyrie was the real supposed GOAT, remember?
lebron only finals MVP over a 70-win team.[/QUOTE]
Huge L.
Durant and Kyrie play Jordan Ball in 3ball's mind. Elite iso scoring supposedly puts enormous pressure on the defense and having more is better.
Sounds good on paper.
But this is disastrous for the 3ball narrative.
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:lol
[QUOTE=red1;14584257]3ball loses again. :applause:
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The 4 greatest moments of my life.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14584080]Any other LeBron hater might as well feel adressed also.[/QUOTE]
Because Covid didn't happen in 2015. Had Covid happened in 2015 what would have happened to Cavs?
[QUOTE=8Ball;14584263]The 4 greatest moments of my life.[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14584248][B]The Nets were beating the Bucks even without Harden, he needed just one of those guys healthy.[/B]
Ben Simmons is a star player. As flawed as he might be, the Nets could have really used his defense/rebounding/playmaking & transition offense in this series.
KD's team right now (minus Simmons) is not better than the 2016 Cavs. He has a bunch of guards and the corpses of Drummond/Griffin/LMA. Bran had much better defensive players around him and a better coach.[/QUOTE]
they actually weren't.
they were down in game 4 before kyrie's injury, it was on pace for a 2-2 series. And that was with knowing Harden might come back which is mucb more mentally freeing.
I know Simmons is a star player. He just has nothing to do with this.
You're conflating the issue.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14584120]Worst excuse ever. Dude is healthy. Just can't figure out Boston's defense.[/QUOTE]
Lebron had a 3rd perennial all-star teammate in 2016 and the current Kyrie/Durant are way past their prime and washed up by years of injuries
The numbers show this pretty clearly - Love was a 26/13 player and a luxury to have as 3rd or 4th option, while the current Kyrie/Durant have played like old, washed up bums
[QUOTE=3ba11;14584349]Lebron had a 3rd perennial all-star teammate in 2016, while the current Kyrie/Durant are way past their prime and washed up by years of injuries
The numbers show this pretty clearly[/QUOTE]
Love in the 2016 Finals: 9 & 7 on 47%TS
:roll:
And he missed the entirety of Game 3 as well.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14584349]Lebron had a 3rd perennial all-star teammate in 2016, while the current Kyrie/Durant are way past their prime and washed up by years of injuries
The numbers show this pretty clearly[/QUOTE]
false.
Love missed 2 games in the 2016 finals.
Besides, Love was a role player and several current Nets are outproducing him.
Durant and Irving are objectively better players now than they were in 2016.
I see you found your excuse nieche though.
Are we gonna stick with these? :lol
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14584080]Any other LeBron hater might as well feel adressed also.[/QUOTE]
Is this a for real question? For one bron is better than kd. He was especially better in 16 compared to kd now coming off an Achilles injury.
Second, the cavs were a much better team than this nets team dude.
this isn't kyrie from 2016. that guy could drop almost 30 a game in the finals. this kyrie is lucky to do that once a season at this point
This forum legit breeds stupidity lmao
There's no way Jeff isn't starting this shit for clicks lmfao
Did snivelly really just say Kyrie and KD aren't in their primes? The same guy who thinks 37 year old 19th season LeBron is in his? :yaohappy:
[QUOTE=John_Connor;14584356]this isn't kyrie from 2016. that guy could drop almost 30 a game in the finals. this kyrie is lucky to do that once a season at this point[/QUOTE]
Kyrie's averaged 27 ppg in Brooklyn, more than he ever did in Cleveland.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14584349]Lebron had a 3rd perennial all-star teammate in 2016 and the current Kyrie/Durant are way past their prime and washed up by years of injuries
The numbers show this pretty clearly - Love was a 26/13 player and a luxury to have as 3rd or 4th option, while the current Kyrie/Durant have played like old, washed up bums[/QUOTE]
This game were also without Love.
[video=youtube;n68wund21Ps]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68wund21Ps[/video]
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14584352]false.
Love missed 2 games in the 2016 finals.
Besides, Love was a role player and several current Nets are outproducing him.
Durant and Irving are objectively better players now than they were in 2016.
I see you found your excuse nieche though.
Are we gonna stick with these? :lol[/QUOTE]
Is Kyrie demolishing Tatum like he did MVP Curry?
So Kyrie/Durant are clearly washed up.
And the 16' Cavs were so stacked that a 26/13 player like Love played a spot-up role
So again, these Nets didn't have a 3rd perennial all-star like Love, while Kyrie/Durant are washed up
[QUOTE=John_Connor;14584356]this isn't kyrie from 2016. that guy could drop almost 30 a game in the finals. this kyrie is lucky to do that once a season at this point[/QUOTE]
Wtf are you talking about ?
Kyrie dropped 60 like nothing this year. All his stats are up since he left Cleveland.
[QUOTE=John_Connor;14584356]this isn't kyrie from 2016.[/QUOTE]
Dude averaged 27 points in the games he played this year and just turned 30.
Durant was averaging 31/7/7 in March and April.
:roll:
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14584352]false.
Love missed 2 games in the 2016 finals.
Besides, Love was a role player and several current Nets are outproducing him.
Durant and Irving are objectively better players now than they were in 2016.
I see you found your excuse nieche though.
Are we gonna stick with these? :lol[/QUOTE]
lol jr smith was the cavs third best offensive player in the 16 finals.
Wonder what some idiots will say when the nets and kd/Kyrie start off well next year
[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14584355]Is this a for real question? For one bron is better than kd. He was especially better in 16 compared to kd now coming off an Achilles injury.
[B]Second, the cavs were a much better team than this nets team dude[/B].[/QUOTE]
"coming off an injury" :oldlol:
yeah, cause of lebron you dumbass.
the rest of the players werent "much better" at ****ing all.
clown ass
[QUOTE=3ba11;14584364]Is Kyrie demolishing Tatum like he did MVP Curry?
So Kyrie/Durant are clearly washed up.
And the 16' Cavs were so stacked that a 26/13 player like Love played a spot-up role
So again, these Nets didn't have a 3rd perennial all-star like Love, while Kyrie/Durant are washed up[/QUOTE]
You’re dumb.
This thread was bait and you fell for it. Don’t double down, just admit you’re stupid, it’d actually be a smart thing to do.
You have argued yourself into a position where you’re forced to say KD and Kyrie are washed up, effective immediately.
[QUOTE=999Guy;14584367]Wtf are you talking about ?
Kyrie dropped 60 like nothing this year. All his stats are up since he left Cleveland.[/QUOTE]
Regular season means nothing - Kyrie dominated FMVP Curry but now is trash compared to Tatum, which means he's washed up... IT'S OVER for them being top-of-the-league players... It happens like that (snapping my fingers) - and it's over - prime gone.. tough, washed up years incoming
[QUOTE=3ba11;14584375]Regular season means nothing - Kyrie dominated FMVP Curry but now is trash compared to Tatum, which means he's washed up... IT'S OVER for them being top-of-the-league players... It happens like that (snapping my fingers) - and it's over - prime gone.. tough, washed up years incoming[/QUOTE]
it doesnt matter.
he's a better player now overall, by far.
just as tatum/brown are now compared to 2018.
if he cant perform the same, thats also on kd.
you love blaming lebron for his teammates' failing to perform.
i see you apply different standards here.
[QUOTE=999Guy;14584373]You’re dumb.
This thread was bait and you fell for it. Don’t double down, just admit you’re stupid, it’d actually be a smart thing to do.
You have argued yourself into a position where you’re forced to say KD and Kyrie are washed up, effective immediately.[/QUOTE]
If Kyrie was dominating the other team's best player, then Durant would be winning like Lebron did
It's impossible to lose if your sidekick is dominating the opposing team's best player - that's the only reason Lebron won with Kyrie
Lebron simply had a prime super-team, while Durant had a washed up 2-star team
[QUOTE=999Guy;14584367]Wtf are you talking about ?
Kyrie dropped 60 like nothing this year. All his stats are up since he left Cleveland.[/QUOTE]
He dropped 60 points like a month ago, also had a 50 point game a few days before that. Hell, in game 1 vs Boston he dropped 39. Now all of a sudden he is "washed" according to 3ball and Kenny.
These posters don't mind making themselves look like idiots in order to keep their agenda alive.
No self respect, no dignity.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14584372]"coming off an injury" :oldlol:
yeah, cause of lebron you dumbass.
the rest of the players werent "much better" at ****ing all.
clown ass[/QUOTE]
If u don't think the 16 cavs supporting cast was significantly better than the nets supporting cast you know less about the came than i thought.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14584387]He dropped 60 points like a month ago, also had a 50 point game a few days before that. Hell, in game 1 vs Boston he dropped 39. Now all of a sudden he is "washed" according to 3ball and Kenny.
These posters would rather make themselves look like idiots instead of admitting they are wrong.
No self respect, no dignity.[/QUOTE]
Regular season and playoffs are 2 different levels of comp, like college and pros.. regular season means nothing except to build chemistry and brand
It's like, why didn't Lebron win with 2010 Shaq?.. He was only 1 year older than current KD without the career-altering injury
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14584361]Kyrie's averaged 27 ppg in Brooklyn, more than he ever did in Cleveland.[/QUOTE]
in what. 20 games with 15 of them being losses. who cares. him and Durant suck now. they're both like lebron and have empty stats at this point. that generation is over. move on
it's the luka/giannis era now
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14584387]He dropped 60 points like a month ago, also had a 50 point game a few days before that. Hell, in game 1 vs Boston he dropped 39. Now all of a sudden he is "washed" according to 3ball and Kenny.
These posters don't mind making themselves look like idiots in order to keep their agenda alive.
No self respect, no dignity.[/QUOTE]
desperate times and such.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14584390]
It's like, why didn't Lebron win with 2010 Shaq?.. He was only 1 year older than current KD without the career-altering injury[/QUOTE]
Was 2009 Shaq averaging 30/7/6 like KD did this year?
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14584340]Because Covid didn't happen in 2015. Had Covid happened in 2015 what would have happened to Cavs?[/QUOTE]
Guys I need an answer!
[QUOTE=3ba11;14584390]Regular season and playoffs are 2 different levels of comp, like college and pros.. regular season means nothing except to build chemistry and brand
It's like, why didn't Lebron win with 2010 Shaq?.. He was only 1 year older than current KD without the career-altering injury[/QUOTE]
what part of he dropped 39 on 60% shooting in gm 1 is your autistic, mouth breathing, window licking, booger eating, dumbass not comprehending?
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14584387]He dropped 60 points like a month ago, also had a 50 point game a few days before that. Hell, in game 1 vs Boston he dropped 39. Now all of a sudden he is "washed" according to 3ball and Kenny.
These posters don't mind making themselves look like idiots in order to keep their agenda alive.
No self respect, no dignity.[/QUOTE]
kyrie has some random hot performances but he's always trash on defense. he doesn't have a team full of defenders and bail out three ball specialists anymore like in Cleveland.. he also doesn't have a weak ass eastern conference for a free trip to the finals anymore either
kyrie is a product of a weaker inferior 2010s era when the only guy standing in lebron and kyries way was Lance Stephenson
things are different now
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14584395]Was 2009 Shaq averaging 30/7/6 like KD did this year?[/QUOTE]
Lebron actually played worse against the 2010 Celtics than current Durant is
The only reason the favored Cavs lost in 2010 as a massive favorite is because Lebron averaged 21 on 34% for the last 3 games - the goat quit job
Lol.. So peak Lebron was worse than current, washed up KD lol
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14584398]what part of he dropped 39 on 60% shooting in gm 1 is your autistic, mouth breathing, window licking, booger eating, dumbass not comprehending?[/QUOTE]
and now we won't see that again till some time next year. so long. see yeah. have a nice day
tatum town cuckin kyrie and sweeping the the 2010s era into the trash where it belongs
[QUOTE=John_Connor;14584399]kyrie has some random hot performances but he's always trash on defense. he doesn't have a team full of defenders and bail out three ball specialists anymore like in Cleveland.. he also doesn't have a weak ass eastern conference for a free trip to the finals anymore either
kyrie is a product of a weaker inferior 2010s era when the only guy standing in lebron and kyries way was Lance Stephenson
things are different now[/QUOTE]
the cavs went 7 deep in the 16 finals and everyone but lebron and kyrie shot the 3 ball below average.
[QUOTE=John_Connor;14584399]kyrie has some random hot performances but he's always trash on defense. he doesn't have a team full of defenders and bail out three ball specialists anymore like in Cleveland.. he also doesn't have a weak ass eastern conference for a free trip to the finals anymore either
kyrie is a product of a weaker inferior 2010s era when the only guy standing in lebron and kyries way was Lance Stephenson
things are different now[/QUOTE]
Kyrie's overall impact on the game has always been overrated, he's not the defender or playmaker you expect out of him, if he was so great like 3ball says he is then he wouldn't be down 3-0 with Durant right beside him.
lol @ acting like Cleveland had some amazing defenders, they ranked near the bottom in defense in 2017. That Cleveland team in general didn't have a team full of defenders. LMAO.
What he did when he joined the Celtics should have been prove to all of you guys he isn't a #1 guy on a team. He's shown you time and time again he isn't a franchise player despite being a great talent. Now look at him, down 3-0 in the 1st round WITH Durant.
Just makes you appreciate what LeBron did in 2016 vs a 73 win team even more.
the cavs bailout 3pt shooters in the 2016 finals.
love 26%
jr - 35%
tt - 0%
shump - 26%
jefferson - 16%
[QUOTE=3ba11;14584400]Lebron actually played worse against the 2010 Celtics than current Durant is
The only reason the favored Cavs lost in 2010 as a massive favorite is because Lebron averaged 21 on 34% for the last 3 games - the goat quit job
Lol.. So peak Lebron was worse than current, washed up KD lol[/QUOTE]
Dodged my question.