I was wrong about the 2016 Finals. I'm Sorry Lebron Fans

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[Indent]PLAYOFF PPG

16' Kyrie........ 25.2
16' Lebron..... 26.2

11' Wade ...... 24.5
11' Lebron..... 23.7

20' AD............ 27.7
20' Lebron..... 27.6[/Indent]


Everyone in history had equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention for numerous playoff runs, so they didn't always face maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load).

Any period without facing maximum defensive attention is inflated stats compared to Jordan, who always defeated maximum defensive attention - he carried the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run.

Finally, notice how Lebron needs all-time scorers at sidekick - Lebron can't carry the scoring load with sufficient brand of ball to beat Finals teams (too ball-dominant), so he needs elite 1st options at sidekick that can match his scoring.. Otoh, off-ball experts CAN carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams, so they can win with secondary hustlers/defenders like Klay, Pippen or Wiggins at sidekick.

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[B]Career Finals

Lebron..... 28 ppg
Kyrie........ 28 ppg[/B] (closer in Finals)


Equal-scoring partners attract equal defensive attention, so Lebron never defeated maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load in Finals).

He infact lacks the elite jumpshooting skill needed to defeat maximum defensive attention

its a wrap folks


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[QUOTE=red1;14628233]its a wrap folks


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Lebron is 0-10 on clutch shots in the Finals - he literally isn't capable of being clutch on the championship level.. In the clutch, he's one of those unskilled offensive bums that had to make it up defensively

[QUOTE=3ba11;14628235]Lebron is 0-10 on clutch shots in the Finals - he literally isn't capable of being clutch on the championship level.. In the clutch, he's one of those unskilled offensive bums that had to make it up defensively[/QUOTE]

keep doing you lil guy


keep exposing that cotton candy in those cotton candy white boy rings


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meanwhile jordan had long-armed defensive beast pippen on his own team


poor guys never stood chance

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pippen used to take jordan's girl:


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It’s a Saturday in Summer red1, why don’t you get out and have some drinks or a smoke or be with some homies. Instead of shamelessly trying to instigate nonsensical stupid arguments on ISH.

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14628246]It’s a Saturday in Summer red1, why don’t you get out and have some drinks or a smoke or be with some homies. Instead of shamelessly trying to instigate nonsensical stupid arguments on ISH.[/QUOTE]

I went out yesterday so Im chilling out tonight :confusedshrug:



I'm trolling a troll this is fun for me

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[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14627920]Westbrick is great. He’s just not a winner. Kyrie however is …

Irving delivered Cleveland their first ever championship. Hit the most clutch three pointer / shot in franchise history in a game 7. Was the teams best isolation scorer against set half court defenses and dropped a pivotal 41 piece in Golden State on the road during the Finals. Averaged 28 ppg for the series. Dude is amazing.

Westbrick couldn’t even carry LeBron into the playoffs this year, the way AD did the two previous seasons.

Meanwhile Kyrie won LeBron his “hometown promise ring” also his most legitimate Finals victory in his career :oldlol:

Bron Stans and LeBron himself owe Kyrie a major debt of gratitude.[/QUOTE]

You are an absolute moron.

[QUOTE=SATAN;14628252]You are an absolute moron.[/QUOTE]

+1

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14627826]You can’t ever take 2016 away from him, he played great, destroyed Curry h2h, and hit one of the biggest shots in history to help win the title.

But half a decade since he left Cleveland it’s become obvious he’s not the player people thought he was going to be. He’s now on his way to completely bombing with TWO different franchises, both of whom were championship contenders.

In a way, you could argue 2016 was the worst thing that could’ve happened to Kyrie. I think he developed a Kobe with Shaq complex where he thought he could win championships as the man, and it’s just been a downward spiral of locker room disruption, injury, and poor playoff performance since leaving Cleveland. Let’s see if he has a final act left in him if he does get traded.[/QUOTE]

Was it really one of the biggest shots in history? A lot of people made shots in that game. Logically the final shots are not more or less valuable than the first ones. Makes zero sense to hype it.

[QUOTE=999Guy;14628260]Was it really one of the biggest shots in history? A lot of people made shots in that game. Logically the final shots are not more or less valuable than the first ones. Makes zero sense to hype it.[/QUOTE]

You can’t be serious

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14628261]You can’t be serious[/QUOTE]

You understand the only reason you would want to focus in on that shot is because of some misses and makes that came before it? If Curry caught fire, **** that shot, it wouldn’t matter to you or anyone else.

That shot is built on equally important shots before it from both teams.

A first quarter team is just as important as a 4th quarter team.

The Warriors won 2-3 titles being known as a third quarter monster. And they could’ve been first or second quarter monsters. It’s all the same shit.

The idea of clutch is a joke as it’s currently discussed.

[QUOTE=999Guy;14628262]You understand the only reason you would want to focus in on that shot is because of some misses and makes that came before it? If Curry caught fire, **** that shot, it wouldn’t matter to you or anyone else.

That shot is built on equally important shots before it from both teams.

A first quarter team is just as important as a 4th quarter team.

The Warriors won 2-3 titles being known as a third quarter monster. And they could’ve been first or second quarter monsters. It’s all the same shit.

The idea of clutch is a joke as it’s currently discussed.[/QUOTE]
But curry choked hard and blew hca to matthew dellavedova in the 2016 finals. Warriors had to get kd after the embarrassing loss.

[QUOTE=999Guy;14628262]You understand the only reason you would want to focus in on that shot is because of some misses and makes that came before it? If Curry caught fire, **** that shot, it wouldn’t matter to you or anyone else.

That shot is built on equally important shots before it from both teams.

A first quarter team is just as important as a 4th quarter team.

The Warriors won 2-3 titles being known as a third quarter monster. And they could’ve been first or second quarter monsters. It’s all the same shit.

The idea of clutch is a joke as it’s currently discussed.[/QUOTE]

So Ray Allen hitting that shot in '13 wasn't important? You totally neglect the mental aspect of the situation.

Safe to say 999 has never played sport and simply doesn't understand it

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14627875]Crap?

He was a number 1 pick and was a clear rising star. Playing on a shit Cleveland roster and was only 3 seasons in the league after quickly leaving Duke.

Destroyed Team USA in scrimmages multiple times.[/QUOTE]




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[QUOTE=Overdrive;14628289]So Ray Allen hitting that shot in '13 wasn't important? You totally neglect the mental aspect of the situation.[/QUOTE]

And LeBron's 3 pointer right before Ray Allen's wasn't important? If LeBron doesn't make the 3 right before, then guess what, fu** Allen's shot. It's not hard to grasp. Turn your brain on.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14628317]:roll::roll::roll:[/QUOTE]

He's a dumb bitch :lol Love watching him defend Kyrie in situations like this where he has absolutely no business doing so. Shows how retarded he is and I love the exposure.

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14627871]My favorite players play defense? What are you talking about?

That’s why I eviscerate LeBron. Hollow numbers and hasn’t played good defense since 2014. Thus getting spanked in the Finals with tremendous amounts of offensive talent around him, like Kyrie, and then couldn’t make the playoffs in 2019 and 2022. And lost in round one in 2021 with a series lead. No defense.

I’m gonna let you in on a secret … you’re a moron.



Not totally true. He had the Celtics who lost their second best player, Gordon Hayward, in game 1 of the season … clicking in 2018. And if it wasn’t for an injury they would have probably made the Finals and given GS a better series. Hell the rookie Celtics with Scary Terry went 7 games in the conference finals. Add Kyrie? It’s a wrap. And this years playoffs? KD was straight trash.[/QUOTE]

LOL @ shitting on LeBron for not making the playoffs in 2019 and 2022, but not citing the reasons why ..... injuries.

Then proceeds to point to Hayward's injury as to why Kyrie didn't make the Finals.... so dumb.

[QUOTE=Shooter;14628330]And LeBron's 3 pointer right before Ray Allen's wasn't important? If LeBron doesn't make the 3 right before, then guess what, fu** Allen's shot. It's not hard to grasp. Turn your brain on.[/QUOTE]

+1

[QUOTE=red1;14627956]this is the most gangster moment in NBA history, right alongside ray allen telling the NBA finals crew to get the f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking ropes outta there after hitting his clutch dagger to tie the game



down 3-1 and came back to tie the series and win game 7



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What a cornball:roll::roll:

[QUOTE=MrFonzworth;14628428]What a cornball:roll::roll:[/QUOTE]

Don't you live in Alaska in an igloo and work at the fish market?

Case closed.

Well we might see a reunion soon :lol

[QUOTE=MrFonzworth;14628428]What a cornball:roll::roll:[/QUOTE]

you're a bitch bro. bitch-ass little fonz. I'm sure I'm better than you at basketball.


can never call someone like me a cornball. you're not allowed.



would be even worse if you're referring to the pic. :roll:

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14628289]So Ray Allen hitting that shot in '13 wasn't important? You totally neglect the mental aspect of the situation.[/QUOTE]

Lebron orchestrating a 15 point comeback by hitting multiple 3s and was their entire offense in the 4th.


Lebron hit a 3 down 5 to cut the lead to two with 25 seconds left. There's no chance for Allen tying the game without LeBron dominating and leading the comeback. Period.