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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14725404]I'm not concerned about any of it. I'm not the one making these ridiculous threads. The difference with the Wolves lately is defense. Scoring hasn't been a problem which should keep you happy anyway[/QUOTE]
You mean it makes you more happy if they lost by a small amount as long as they hold their rivals below a hundred points? Ah ok.
[QUOTE=Axe;14725405]You mean it makes you more happy if they lost by a small amount as long as they hold their rivals below a hundred points? Ah ok.[/QUOTE]
I could care less either way. Again I'm not the one making these threads. Not many teams being held under 100 anymore
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14725403]been playing well regardless. As I said all along they are a lot more talented than any Jazz team with Gobert. Jazz sucked without Gobert. Wolves won a home game against a struggling team without Gobert. That's taking care of business not thread worthy :facepalm[/QUOTE]
They have a losing record with Rudy in the lineup
[QUOTE=Manny98;14725498]They have a losing record with Rudy in the lineup[/QUOTE]
certainly not since Towns has been out. It's January now not October. Try to keep up
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14725406]I could care less either way. Again I'm not the one making these threads. Not many teams being held under 100 anymore[/QUOTE]
you care aot. you are well aware when they win a few with gobert :lol
or more like, inspite of gobert
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14725406]I could care less either way. Again I'm not the one making these threads. Not many teams being held under 100 anymore[/QUOTE]
Then why do you try to point it out from time to time?
[QUOTE=Axe;14725510]Then why do you try to point it out from time to time?[/QUOTE]
I never mentioned a point total
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14725502]certainly not since Towns has been out. It's January now not October. Try to keep up[/QUOTE]
They've been barely .500 team all season with or without Towns
6-2 with Reid though
[QUOTE=Manny98;14725538]They've been barely .500 team all season with or without Towns
6-2 with Reid though[/QUOTE]
at least we're using a huge sample size
Just in by Bill Simmons, from his [URL="https://nbarankings.theringer.com/trade-value"]NBA Trade Value Rankings[/URL] article.
[quote=Bill Simmons]
Buyer's Remorse
Rudy Gobert Center, Minnesota Timberwolves
Age 30, 10 Seasons
Height/Weight 7'1" / 245 lbs
Drafted No. 27 overall, 2013
pts 13.4 69.2 TS%
reb 11.8 21.2 REB%
blk 1.3 3.8 BLK%
stl 0.8 1.3 STL%
His contract is genuinely, unequivocally offensive. He famously cannot survive certain playoff matchups. His Minnesota impact is shakier than we ever imagined. And yet, they stupidly gave up EVERYTHING for him. It’s already one of the 21st century’s worst sports trades. How could they trade him now? It’s like watching a buddy splurge on a fancy pool table that doesn’t quite fit the room and will immediately lose 76 percent of its value, plus nobody will ever use it, only nobody can figure out how to sell it online. “Hey, anyone want to come over and play pool tonight?” Nope. No thank you.
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:yaohappy:
Bill Simmons cannot quit Xiao
[QUOTE=Gotterdammerung;14725961]Just in by Bill Simmons, from his [URL="https://nbarankings.theringer.com/trade-value"]NBA Trade Value Rankings[/URL] article.
:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]
The scary part isn't the contract, it is all the stuff they gave up to get him.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14725990]The scary part isn't the contract, it is all the stuff they gave up to get him.[/QUOTE]
remains to be seen what they gave up to get him. No one that is all NBA, all defense, DPOTY...
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14726099]remains to be seen what they gave up to get him. No one that is all NBA, all defense, DPOTY...[/QUOTE]
So what? They got a ton of draft picks and rotation players. Obviously it remains to be seen what the draft picks turn out to be but the players certainly seem to be productive in Utah.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14726109]So what? They got a ton of draft picks and rotation players. Obviously it remains to be seen what the draft picks turn out to be but the players certainly seem to be productive in Utah.[/QUOTE]
yep and they would be one of the best teams in the league if they had Gobert. Defense and rebounding are their weaknesses
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14726099]remains to be seen what they gave up to get him. No one that is all NBA, all defense, DPOTY...[/QUOTE]
And what did that get them? A couple early exits amazing.
[QUOTE=Vino24;14726115]And what did that get them? A couple early exits amazing.[/QUOTE]
it got them a couple playoff upsets. They were a lottery team without him. Imagine him now with an all star PF instead of a 6'4 PF, a coach that makes adjustments, guys that play hard at both ends and share the ball(excluding the bum)...
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14726113]yep and they would be one of the best teams in the league if they had Gobert. Defense and rebounding are their weaknesses[/QUOTE]
Utah had Gobert for years. We already know how that story goes.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14726133]Utah had Gobert for years. We already know how that story goes.[/QUOTE]
yeah we that story with that coach and those lineups. We don't know it with the current coach or current roster. We do know that they suck at D and are getting killed on the glass despite playing bigger than everyone
[QUOTE=tontoz;14726133]Utah had Gobert for years. We already know how that story goes.[/QUOTE]
Not even a single trip to the conference finals during his tenure there. :ohwell:
[QUOTE=Axe;14726268]Not even a single trip to the conference finals during his tenure there. :ohwell:[/QUOTE]
and you could say he was favored to do so maybe once. You can only work with what you have and it wasn't much outside the statue
26pts 8reb in 26min vs gobert 12pts in 33min :lol
[QUOTE=AirBonner;14747432]26pts 8reb in 26min vs gobert 12pts in 33min :lol[/QUOTE]
pathetic :facepalm
[QUOTE=AirBonner;14747432]26pts 8reb in 26min vs gobert 12pts in 33min :lol[/QUOTE]
Should be starting
[QUOTE=Manny98;14747473]Should be starting[/QUOTE]
with any luck he'll be starting in Brooklyn next year
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14747475]with any luck he'll be starting in Brooklyn next year[/QUOTE]
He's not better than Claxton but I would love him on the Nets
[QUOTE=Manny98;14747482]He's not better than Claxton but I would love him on the Nets[/QUOTE]
He's not better than Gobert or Towns either but keep trolling dumbass
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14747486]He's not better than Gobert or Towns either but keep trolling dumbass[/QUOTE]
Maybe not but he seems to fit the team better, offense flows better with Reid on the court
[QUOTE=Manny98;14747487]Maybe not but he seems to fit the team better, offense flows better with Reid on the court[/QUOTE]
too bad the game is played at two ends. They were a bad defensive and rebounding team. If they thought any big could do it they wouldn't have traded for Gobert
Meh eye test and stats both suggest that Timberwolves are better with Reid
Goberts defense doesn't make up for being the worst offensive starting center in the NBA
[QUOTE=Manny98;14747487]Maybe not but he seems to fit the team better, offense flows better with Reid on the court[/QUOTE]
He's still responsible for letting their opponents score over 120 doe!
I’ve been surprised how polished his handles and attacking look at his size.
Undrafted so Street Hunger>>> the overpaid Frenchman
[QUOTE=Manny98;14747495]Meh eye test and stats both suggest that Timberwolves are better with Reid
Goberts defense doesn't make up for being the worst offensive starting center in the NBA[/QUOTE]
the worst offensive center who's been one of the most impactful offensive players in the league in his career
[QUOTE=Axe;14747541]He's still responsible for letting their opponents score over 120 doe![/QUOTE]
how is it that one guy is always responsible in a team sport? He was responsible for the Knicks PF as a center. He was responsible for the entire Hawks team. Simmons scored 40 on him on 3-7 shooting :roll:
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14747548]how is it that one guy is always responsible in a team sport? He was responsible for the Knicks PF as a center. He was responsible for the entire Hawks team. Simmons scored 40 on him on 3-7 shooting :roll:[/QUOTE]
Umm, obviously because any big can do it! Duh... :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14747546]the worst offensive center who's been one of the most impactful offensive players in the league in his career[/QUOTE]
He's about as impactful as Prime DeAndre Jordan on offense stop it :facepalm
Timberwolves are factually better offensively with Rudy off the floor
[QUOTE=Manny98;14747561]He's about as impactful as Prime DeAndre Jordan on offense stop it :facepalm
Timberwolves are factually better offensively with Rudy off the floor[/QUOTE]
the game is played at both ends and Towns and Conley are back. Keep rooting for the 3rd big though! :lol
Rudy is a one way player though :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Manny98;14747567]Rudy is a one way player though :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
keep telling yourself that as Reid lights it up at 34% with his 5 boards. He might be down in Puerto Rico with those other great bigs that outplayed Gobert