Due to how he's often hyped in this league, what happens to him in the first 3-5 seasons is very important on how people would rank him someday.
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Due to how he's often hyped in this league, what happens to him in the first 3-5 seasons is very important on how people would rank him someday.
[QUOTE=ILLsmak;14837611]I see why u think that but u should think harder about what I’m saying. Im talking about i grew up next to a power plant once in a life time athlete. Mj was def crazy but u really think dudes like vince or kemp werent just as gifted athletically? The raw strength of kemp is supremely underrated. Same with ais stamina. They were nuts athletes, but the word “freak” has implications that they are almost beyond human. Nobody been like: shaq, wilt, bron. Wemb might break, but if he doesnt, hes def in a diff league than mj with the top top guys. Sorry if u dont see that. More likely ur just being a contrarian.
If u think wemb and jordan are on the same level as athletic anomalies, or wilt, or shaq or bron v mj, dono what to tell ya bud. There are levels.
-Smak[/QUOTE]
Jordan was an athletic freak. He had the speed of a 6'0 player (a super fast one like Iverson) in a 6'6 body with a 40 inch vertical leap, giant hands, and the greatest in air agility the sport has ever seen.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAIyXQ5wNU[/url]
This is Jordan's brother who is like 5 foot 7 ... the dunks he's able to do are impressive, Jordan has the same leaping ability but at 6 foot 6. Somehow Jordan retained the speed of a short player, but grew to 6'6 when no one else in the family is taller than 5'7.
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14839229]Jordan was an athletic freak. He had the speed of a 6'0 player (a super fast one like Iverson) in a 6'6 body with a 40 inch vertical leap, giant hands, and the greatest in air agility the sport has ever seen.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAIyXQ5wNU[/url]
This is Jordan's brother who is like 5 foot 7 ... the dunks he's able to do are impressive, Jordan has the same leaping ability but at 6 foot 6. Somehow Jordan retained the speed of a short player, but grew to 6'6 when no one else in the family is taller than 5'7.[/QUOTE]
Jordan is 6'4.75" without shoes
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14839237]Jordan is 6'4.75" without shoes[/QUOTE]
So basically 14 inches taller that you. Makes sense.
gonna get tickets to see this dude when he comes to phoenix. the images look insane of him dunking over nba players.
Looks like he can dunk better than baldan too. Hmm...
[QUOTE=Axe;14839318]Looks like he can dunk better than baldan too. Hmm...[/QUOTE]
^Sure mark of an insecure moron. :lol
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14839229]Jordan was an athletic freak. He had the speed of a 6'0 player (a super fast one like Iverson) in a 6'6 body with a 40 inch vertical leap, giant hands, and the greatest in air agility the sport has ever seen.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAIyXQ5wNU[/url]
This is Jordan's brother who is like 5 foot 7 ... the dunks he's able to do are impressive, Jordan has the same leaping ability but at 6 foot 6. Somehow Jordan retained the speed of a short player, but grew to 6'6 when no one else in the family is taller than 5'7.[/QUOTE]
But in a 1v1 exhibition lost to an investment banker lol[url=https://i.ibb.co/SxWM8PC/IMG-20230805-073843.jpg].[/url]
His defense is gonna be what sets him apart
[QUOTE=imdaman99;14839410]His defense is gonna be what sets him apart[/QUOTE]
True.
He's got certain fanbases SHOOK already.
[QUOTE=imdaman99;14839410]His defense is gonna be what sets him apart[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Even the most delusional nostalgia stans who hate what the league had become these days because of the supposed 'no defense' can't help but praise him as well[url=https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg].[/url]
[QUOTE=Axe;14839445]Agreed. Even the most delusional nostalgia stans who hate what the league had become these days because of the supposed 'no defense' can't help but praise him as well[URL="https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg"].[/URL][/QUOTE]
I thought it was all about how many points one scores? Now D is noteworthy? :facepalm
[QUOTE=bison;14838813]Dude called for the alley oop at the 3 point line
[url]https://x.com/bleacherreport/status/1712992780920746457?s=46&t=_ZfHr6gciEv6UU6vVpWDxg[/url][/QUOTE]
Awful defense.
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14731573][video=youtube;oyvnm6TfmpQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyvnm6TfmpQ[/video][/QUOTE]
"Sky hook" lol.
The most basic of post hooks.
Still, this is something that Porzingis doesn't have in his game.
[QUOTE=Axe;14839378]But in a 1v1 exhibition lost to an investment banker lol[url=https://i.ibb.co/SxWM8PC/IMG-20230805-073843.jpg].[/url][/QUOTE]
32,000 posts in 4 years about nothing, yeah nothing says "athletic expert" like that. Put down the Doritos bag and get out of your mom's basement and maybe head over to a gym and maybe play an actual sport (I doubt you can actually play basketball, maybe just try lightly jogging around a track) or lift a weight once in a while there buddy.
[QUOTE=Axe;14839445]Agreed. Even the most delusional nostalgia stans who hate what the league had become these days because of the supposed 'no defense' can't help but praise him as well[url=https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg].[/url][/QUOTE]
^Epitome of a low IQ poster. This guy has no clue about the game of basketball. :roll:
No wonder he's a Bronie fluffer.
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14839469]32,000 posts in 4 years about nothing, yeah nothing says "athletic expert" like that. Put down the Doritos bag and get out of your mom's basement and maybe head over to a gym and maybe play an actual sport (I doubt you can actually play basketball, maybe just try lightly jogging around a track) or lift a weight once in a while there buddy.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14839446]I thought it was all about how many points one scores? Now D is noteworthy? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Ikr. They're the same fools who keep on whining that there's too much threes being made these days. [url=https://i.ibb.co/L0mSP2c/IMG-20230715-055719.jpg]:confusedshrug:[/url]
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14839469]:mad:[/QUOTE]
Nothing i've said earlier was wrong. But just because you're a bit triggered doesn't mean you have to take it personally, you know. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Full Court;14839522]^Epitome of a low IQ poster. This guy has no clue about the game of basketball. :roll:
No wonder he's a Bronie fluffer.[/QUOTE]
Banned again :roll:
What is this, the 7th time being banned in 4 months? What a pile of dogshit.
Full Court is the Dillon Danis of ISH. Talk a lot of shit + full of shit for brains, and still talks shit after everyone smashes him in the face. No honor, no intelligence. Just a rat.
yeah it was obvious from the start
kid is going to have an incredible career
[QUOTE=8Ball;14839620]Banned again :roll:
What is this, the 7th time being banned in 4 months? What a pile of dogshit.
Full Court is the Dillon Danis of ISH. Talk a lot of shit + full of shit for brains, and still talks shit after everyone smashes him in the face. No honor, no intelligence. Just a rat.[/QUOTE]
[Img]https://media.tenor.com/4UUlhopGaKwAAAAC/giggling-cowboy.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14839229]Jordan was an athletic freak. He had the speed of a 6'0 player (a super fast one like Iverson) in a 6'6 body with a 40 inch vertical leap, giant hands, and the greatest in air agility the sport has ever seen.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAIyXQ5wNU[/url]
This is Jordan's brother who is like 5 foot 7 ... the dunks he's able to do are impressive, Jordan has the same leaping ability but at 6 foot 6. Somehow Jordan retained the speed of a short player, but grew to 6'6 when no one else in the family is taller than 5'7.[/QUOTE]
Hard to convince me that Ivo couldn't have played in the NFL if he wanted to. Ivo was diff. There is a whole spectrum of athleticism, but yeah, 'big hands, small feet (for foot work)' and his speed was good, but it wasn't AI level haha at that. Dude was really good at basketball?! 4sho.
However, if you look at the line up of... SHAQ, WILT, LEBRON, dudes who are basically MVP off physical gifts alone, I don't think he fits in there. As I said, I would throw in Giannis as well for another recent player (tho Giannis isn't on the level of those 3 + Wemby, he's a good example of someone who is too freakishly athletic to ever be GOAT). MJ got up every day and worked his ass off. When you are so far ahead of everyone as a 'true athletic freak' and you are competitively so far ahead of everyone else, that is not something you do.
Wemby is 7'5? haha. Plays SF? It might seem like I'm only talking about big dudes, but in NBA history there are a ton of athletic dudes. Bron is the smallest dude, but there is def a devil's advocate argument for MJ vs Bron. Be like his hands, his agility... but like I said Bron jumping 40, too ez. He's also 6'8 and weighs comfortably 50 pounds more than MJ. He also has RIDICULOUS SPEED. That's why people can troll him and be like yeah Bron isn't that good at (this aspect of basketball.) Same with Shaq... he's just big! It's BS, but you can't do that with MJ because MJ was highly skilled. He wasn't born with that high skill level, but he did have a great start, you are right. Still not believing a 7'5 SF is gonna put in the work to be GOAT but that's just me. Just like I never thought Shaq was gonna put in the work even tho he was my fav player and he is def top 10 (haters!!)
But yea MJ speed ain't Iverson. Maybe in a foot race they would be close, but probably not. However Iverson has a diff level of agility. I put Iverson on the athletic tier under those guys I listed w/ MJ. I put Rodman up there, too. Athleticism is a complex thing. It's just raw physical ability, and unfortunately in bball, height / size has a lot to do with it. MJ was special, but he's not anywhere close to the anomaly Wemby is. Sorry to anyone who genuinely believes that or doesn't understand what I am saying. It wasn't 'easy' for MJ from day 1. He had to constantly stay in the gym, both working out and practicing.
-Smak
He needs steroids
[QUOTE=hateraid;14839925]He needs steroids[/QUOTE]
He needs yoga and more foot planting practice. Weight or str esp if it affects his bones gives him nothing. Kd is good, why isn’t he? He’s facing diff comp and really should only be in paint on help. Id tell him to not stay there where he could get elbowed or have someone put their foot under him.
Let him get lil jump blocks inside and keep contesting perimeter w his full wing span. No need for him to reb big either. Go stand somewhere, catch, shoot haha. If ppl overplay take a balanced drive. More weight is just gonna shorten his career.
-Smak
[QUOTE=ILLsmak;14839934]He needs yoga and more foot planting practice. Weight or str esp if it affects his bones gives him nothing. Kd is good, why isn’t he? He’s facing diff comp and really should only be in paint on help. Id tell him to not stay there where he could get elbowed or have someone put their foot under him.
Let him get lil jump blocks inside and keep contesting perimeter w his full wing span. No need for him to reb big either. Go stand somewhere, catch, shoot haha. If ppl overplay take a balanced drive. More weight is just gonna shorten his career.
-Smak[/QUOTE]
See OP and reread my comment lol
[QUOTE=imdaman99;14839410]His defense is gonna be what sets him apart[/QUOTE]
What's funny is that some people have so little understanding of basketball that they think we're in a high defense era.
He doesn't NOT need to put on a ton of weight with his frame.
Dudes that tall aren't built to be tanks, he would put too much pressure on his joints.
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14840372]He doesn't NOT need to put on a ton of weight with his frame.
Dudes that tall aren't built to be tanks, he would put too much pressure on his joints.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't get why people are saying he needs to bulk up. He seems to be doing just fine as he is.
He doesnt have to shaq-sized. But 10-15 more pounds of muscle mass (so around 240-250 in total), especially in the lower body would make a big difference is his ability to stand his ground against more physical opponents.
Durant is listed at 240, while being significantly shorter, and this size never affected his agility
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His hand eye coordination and fluidity at that size is extremely impressive... now I know why people are hyping him. There's never been anybody that tall that moves like that... maybe Durant or Sampson but even they are shorter.
Sampson moved like that, but with less guard skills. Sampson was pretty much in a giant tweener forward, mobility, wise and wemby is pretty much a giant wing. Seeing it now, it should be easy to understand why owners were offering the cash value of an NBA franchise trying to get the pick to take Sampson. But this guy is in a league that will actually let him explore his potential and do everything. Even if Ralph had stayed healthy, he was in a league that had a much more rigid view of what a bigman should do.
Wemby should be better than Ralph was even when healthy.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14840410]Sampson moved like that, but with less guard skills. Sampson was pretty much in a giant tweener forward, mobility, wise and wemby is pretty much a giant wing. Seeing it now, it should be easy to understand why owners were offering the cash value of an NBA franchise trying to get the pick to take Sampson. But this guy is in a league that will actually let him explore his potential and do everything. Even if Ralph had stayed healthy, he was in a league that had a much more rigid view of what a bigman should do.
Wemby should be better than Ralph was even when healthy.[/QUOTE]
Sampson was best as a rookie at the 5
So excited to see this guy play. More so on defense. San Antonio had the worst defensive rating last season; I think they can be average to above average thanks to Victor. He has roughly 3 inches of height, standing reach, and wingspan on Gobert. More mobile and fluid.
There's definitely a part of me that thinks he can have prime Utah Rudy defensive impact from day one.
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14839469]32,000 posts in 4 years about nothing, yeah nothing says "athletic expert" like that. Put down the Doritos bag and get out of your mom's basement and maybe head over to a gym and maybe play an actual sport (I doubt you can actually play basketball, maybe just try lightly jogging around a track) or lift a weight once in a while there buddy.[/QUOTE]
LOL damn
His IQ on both ends of the floor looks great. The defense is monstrous. The jumper looks nice. Sky's the limit.
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14839469]32,000 posts in 4 years about nothing, yeah nothing says "athletic expert" like that. Put down the Doritos bag and get out of your mom's basement and maybe head over to a gym and maybe play an actual sport (I doubt you can actually play basketball, maybe just try lightly jogging around a track) or lift a weight once in a while there buddy.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Full Court;14840609]Yeah, the guy's legit. It's hilarious that some people keep harping about "Bu-bu-bu-but INJURIES!!!" when the guy hasn't even been injured yet.
:biggums:[/QUOTE]
no one his size has ever stayed healthy and lived up to the hype. The odds are against him. Hopefully he beats the odds
[QUOTE=ralph_i_el;14840592]His IQ on both ends of the floor looks great. The defense is monstrous. The jumper looks nice. Sky's the limit.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the guy's legit. It's hilarious that some people keep harping about "Bu-bu-bu-but INJURIES!!!" when the guy hasn't even been injured yet.
:biggums: