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Re: ESPN Insider Accuses LeBron James Of Using Performance Enhancers
Water is wet....LeFraud is a drug cheat
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[QUOTE=FKAri;14742822]Agreed. Hyper competitive cut-throat psychopaths like MJ never cut corners and always abide ethically and honorably.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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The damage control is hilarious.
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I mean it’s obvious Bron is roided up
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Thread flop. Nobody in national media or NBA media cares what a proven liar Chael Sonnen has to say.
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[QUOTE=8Ball;14743023]Thread flop. Nobody in national media or NBA media cares what a proven liar Chael Sonnen has to say.[/QUOTE]
So I guess:
Bill Simmons
Joe Rogan
Stephen A Smith
Max Kellerman
and this guy are all liars too..
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmB6YCUzgMU[/url]
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Joe Rogan has said many times he doesnt watch football or basketball. Naming him shows how desperate you are.
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14743031]Joe Rogan has said many times he doesnt watch football or basketball. Naming him shows how desperate you are.[/QUOTE]
And why does that even matter when we're talking about PEDs?
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[url]https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-2-week-break-turned-his-season-around-2015-4[/url]
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/2v15wd/simmons_and_lowe_on_lebron_what_is_bill_alluding/[/url]
[url]https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000208-sports-and-racing-nba/69397404[/url]
[QUOTE]During today's podcast, Bill and Zach were talking about Anthony Davis's MVP credentials when they had the following exchange about LeBron:
Bill: So you really believe that? You think [Davis] has been the best player in the NBA?
Zach: Start to finish this season, yeah. I mean LeBron since his two week... uh we gotta figure out a name for that. His two week... I dunno what..
Bill: Oh, I can.. ooh I can, I have a couple titles that, uh, I'm not gonna say, but..
Zach: His two week refreshment, or something, um, has been--
Bill: Yeah refreshment's kinda hinting toward... yeah..
Zach: But... um... I'm not going anywhere near where you're going.
Bill: I'm not going anywhere either. I'm just listening to you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"With all the talk about dehydration and cramping, it made for a very interesting and suspicious googling experience"[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14743033]And why does that even matter when we're talking about PEDs?[/QUOTE]
:roll:
he projecting hard
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14743033]And why does that even matter when we're talking about PEDs?[/QUOTE]
He has no relation to LeBron. We all know Kobe used PEDs in Germany.
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[QUOTE=eliteballer;14743029]So I guess:
Bill Simmons
Joe Rogan
Stephen A Smith
Max Kellerman
and this guy are all liars too..
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmB6YCUzgMU[/url][/QUOTE]
Wrong.
None of them give a shit about what Chael Sonnen has to say on this topic.
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How many alts you gonna use?
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Chael Sonnen is a known troll. I like the guy, because he's witty and funny, but I've followed him for years, and he spouts off all kinds of nonsense.
Sonnen himself got busted in the UFC for PED use.
Lebron's endurance is crap. That's a big reason why he disappears in the fourth quarter. He's got nothing left by then. So if he's on EPO, it ain't working.
This whole story is a big nothing burger. Just speculation by a guy who has no more inside info than any of us here on ISH do.
None of that negates the fact that Lebron led a super team to the lottery though. :lol
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[QUOTE=Soundwave;14742820]I don't think MJ really did, I think he just adjusted his game (clear as day) as he got older to rely more on conserving energy and not dunking as much and utilizing post jumpers. If he was abusing effective PEDs, that probably shouldn't have been necessary.
I'm not as sure about Kobe.
If a player is basically playing the same exact style into their mid-late 30s as they were 10 years prior ... that's probably a red flag for PED usage.[/QUOTE]
This!
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[QUOTE=Soundwave;14742825]Counterpoint to that would be his competitive ego is big enough that he feels he doesn't need that extra stuff to do it. Clearly post '95 Jordan is a different player to 85-93 Jordan, he adjusted his game to pace himself. When you see players performing without having to do that into their 30s ... that's probably when you know something is up.
I also think basketball in the 90s was kinda behind the curve of PED usage. Baseball was ahead of the curve, football too, basketball and hockey were behind it.
Basketball in the 90s wasn't even that far removed from a time when even just lifting weights wasn't really a pre-requisite thing.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Only Michael Jordan didn't do it.
Not like all the mens 100m sprinters have drug problems
Or Jon Jones, Anderson Silva and all the other GOAT UFC guys.
Or Barry Bonds - the best baseball player.
Or Canelo - the best boxer right now.
Nope. MJ - was more than likely clean. Because his ego and he would never just due to being so competitive.
:facepalm
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[video=youtube;GuUILICJOtw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuUILICJOtw[/video]
It's easy to look at muscles and say roids...but the more keen observer would look towards yellowing in the eyes as a sign of liver damage. And while that might not be the only sign that Jordan was juicing during his career. His lack of hair.
[IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/736x/46/b0/27/46b0271294406c9a3df1792808e8d623.jpg[/IMG]
You see how Jordan has a gut but also abs...that's an HGH gut
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The damage control is hilarious.
Look at Jordan from 30 on and LeBron at 30 on.
Or Jordan as a Wizard and LeBron now.
One clearly is unnaturally athletic and durable, and coincidentally is also the one with everyone talking about PED usage.
The LeRoid fans are hilarious.
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[QUOTE=eliteballer;14743106]The damage control is hilarious.
Look at Jordan from 30 on and LeBron at 30 on.
Or Jordan as a Wizard and LeBron now.
One clearly is unnaturally athletic and durable, and coincidentally is also the one with everyone talking about PED usage.
The LeRoid fans are hilarious.[/QUOTE]
Uhh, except youre missing something extremely obvious.
Steroids reduce the size of your bulge, and we can all plainly see that has NOT happened to Lebron. The outline of his man-cleavage is as ginormous and breathtaking as ever.
DEAL WITH IT.
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14743044]He has no relation to LeBron. We all know Kobe used PEDs in Germany.[/QUOTE]
Well not necessarily, but the regenokine procedure does mimic the effect that EPOs have on your body, though it uses your own blood to increase the red cell count. In any case, you'd be a fool to think that Lebron or any other NBA player wouldn't be on PEDs with all this money to be made.
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[QUOTE=FKAri;14742905]All that means is Kobe was HUGE. Not necessarily MJ isn't packing. He was content with Kobe. LMAO @ these clowns straight reaching[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=eliteballer;14743106]The damage control is hilarious.
Look at Jordan from 30 on and LeBron at 30 on.
Or Jordan as a Wizard and LeBron now.
One clearly is unnaturally athletic and durable, and coincidentally is also the one with [B]everyone talking about PED usage[/B].
The LeRoid fans are hilarious.[/QUOTE]
You posting pages of photos of LeBron doesn't constitute 'everyone'.
For a guy under the spotlight as much as he is, if nothing has come out now about him, nothing will.
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EPO is very easily detectable.
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Great source lol. I wouldn't put it past any great athlete honestly. With so much money at stake with contracts and branding it's pretty much like going all in. If Lebron is on anything, it's not doing the job some of you think it is because he's been clearly diminished for years now, his greatness has done a good job of blurring the lines so his decline hasn't seemed so steep.
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[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14742816]MJ and Kobe had performance enhancers too...so do random scrubs in the NBA. Even [B]"illegal surgeries"[/B] happen. It really doesn't matter.
Curious to see if any "facts" come out of this.[/QUOTE]
and what would that be ???
I am all ears
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I hope all of you that brought up MJ and Kobe realize that they were gym rats ,onthe court practicing for hours as well as spending 'hours' in the weight room.
I can truly fathom a guess they never took roids.
Lebron --something is with this guy and it will come out 20 years from now when I am dead.
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There’s a reason the NBA doesn’t drug test LeBron. The results could forever tarnish the image of the league.
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eliteballer still doesn't get it. He still thinks that unless you look jacked you're clean :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Jasper;14743183]I hope all of you that brought up MJ and Kobe realize that they were gym rats ,onthe court practicing for hours as well as spending 'hours' in the weight room.
I can truly fathom a guess they never took roids.
Lebron --something is with this guy and it will come out 20 years from now when I am dead.[/QUOTE]
Kobe had Ritalin in his system when he died. Now take his other characteristics and throw in the fact that stimulants are probably the most common non-recovery PED in the sport and you can decide for yourself. LeBron is probably also on something. And it's probably a stack of various things.
MJ's a different case because it was a different era. Doubt he was on a stack as varied as the one today's athletes are on even though he did train with Tim Grover. And I don't think stimulants had quite caught on yet.
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[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn;14743162]EPO is very easily detectable.[/QUOTE]
Yet the league is unwilling to drug test LeBron for some reason
:lebronamazed:
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[QUOTE=Jasper;14743183]I hope all of you that brought up MJ and Kobe realize that they were gym rats ,onthe court practicing for hours as well as spending 'hours' in the weight room.
[/QUOTE]
I don't know about Kobe and frankly I don't know about Lebron and likely won't until after he retires. What I do know/see is that MJ has a number of signs of steroid damage while say a Karl Malone still looks like he can kick some butt.
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Lebron never tested positive for any drug test even when he was playing in the Olympics.
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So desperate and deranged:roll:
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[QUOTE=eliteballer;14743286]So desperate and deranged:roll:[/QUOTE]
Yes you are. That's why you need to seek help, chico
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[QUOTE=BallsOut;14743270]Yet the league is unwilling to drug test LeBron for some reason
:lebronamazed:[/QUOTE]
He's been tested before.
You guys literally make Michael Jordan fans look ****ing stupid.
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Nothing to see here guys nothing to see move along move along.