Lebron James has by far the best +/- in playoff history with +1300 !

[QUOTE=Axe;14761178]Redneck jizzrag bleeding very hard again. :oldlol:

Desperately raging so he can get another strike, as usual. ;)[/QUOTE]

The anti-semitic merman bitch over here posting swastikas again.

Bitch fit loser. :lol

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Yikes. :oldlol:

Imagine being shitted on by multiple users on a daily basis, getting ethered by a mod at times and finally receiving a ban itb several weeks earlier. A true narcissist forum punching bag indeed. Worst troll ever in this planet. :hammerhead:

[QUOTE=Axe;14761201]Yikes. :oldlol:

Imagine being shitted on by multiple users on a daily basis, getting ethered by a mod at times and finally receiving a ban itb several weeks earlier. A true narcissist forum punching bag indeed. Worst troll ever in this planet. :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]

The swastika-spamming dingus types a bunch of words, but all that really comes out is this:


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It's called a bitch fit.

Bleed harder, jizzrag.

[QUOTE=Axe;14761212]Bleed harder, jizzrag.[/QUOTE]

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Most bronze medals, most times changing teams, longest ever to win a title for franchise that drafted him 11 years and that after switching teams. Need I say more?

[QUOTE=hold this L;14760489]It's almost as if he's played more in the NBA than anyone else.[/QUOTE]

almost as if he wins series playoffs more :oldlol:

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14761093]They played better teams in the first 3 rounds for sure. When were they playing sub-.500 teams or bottom 10 offenses and without facing a single 50-win team en route to the Finals? Even when they played mediocre teams at least they still faced Dame or Harden etc while Bran played 2nd tier stars like DeRozan & PG for the vast majority of those runs as all the superstars were in the WC.[/QUOTE]
Well, i guess this is also one big reason why you hate tatum. Simply[url=https://i.ibb.co/tH5jfVg/IMG-20220906-091426.jpg][img]https://i.ibb.co/rGTfpKq/IMG-20230312-120638.jpg[/img][/url] because he wasn't able to defeat him and the cavs on kong's last finals run in the east. Despite rookie tatum and the Cs having a 2-0 lead earlier in that matchup bt. :kobe:

[QUOTE=Axe;14761282]Well, i guess this is also one big reason why you hate tatum. Simply[url=https://i.ibb.co/tH5jfVg/IMG-20220906-091426.jpg][img]https://i.ibb.co/rGTfpKq/IMG-20230312-120638.jpg[/img][/url] because he wasn't able to defeat him and the cavs on kong's last finals run in the east. Despite rookie tatum and the Cs having a 2-0 lead earlier in that matchup bt. :kobe:[/QUOTE]

:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14760485]What's the +/- in the Finals?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=tpols;14760499]He's a big negative in the Finals though. Most of overall playoff +/- came from beating cans out east his whole career.[/QUOTE]

4 finals MVPs

only player to win a finals MVP over a 70-win team
only player to beat the spurs in the finals aka the only player with a finals MVP over pop

played the warriors and spurs 7 times and teammates often got injured like kyrie wade and love. 2007 finals was the most lopsided finals ever.

this is all that matters:


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[QUOTE=red1;14761295]4 finals MVPs

only player to win a finals MVP over a 70-win team
only player to beat the spurs in the finals aka the only player with a finals MVP over pop

played the warriors and spurs 7 times and teammates often got injured like kyrie wade and love. 2007 finals was the most lopsided finals ever.[/QUOTE]

2007 most lopsided? Wasn't it close every game? Didn't those Spurs lose to a Kobe one-man team in the WCF in 5 the next year?

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14761554]2007 most lopsided? [B]Wasn't it close every game[/B]? Didn't those Spurs lose to a Kobe one-man team in the WCF in 5 the next year?[/QUOTE]

I think he meant talent-wise.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761581]I think he meant talent-wise.[/QUOTE]

I guess you could argue that if you disregard the Cavs' defense that year but it's funny how it wasn't a blowout when Bran was all-time bad, given the most "lopsided" gap in talent in Finals history.

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14761587]I guess you could argue that if you disregard the Cavs' defense that year but it's funny how it wasn't a blowout when Bran was all-time bad, given the most "lopsided" gap in talent in Finals history.[/QUOTE]

Well just look at the rosters. That’s where the talent gap comes. The 2-4 contributors in the finals for the Cavs were Gooden, Boobie, and Sasha Pavlovic. None of them would even be starters on the Spurs. Perhaps barely even rotation guys.

The games were close because the pace was slow and Lebron, despite shooting poorly, controlled that aspect and was excellent defensively.

The games being close doesn’t make the supporting cast better than they were.

Always found it weird how ImKobe has a LeBron avatar despite always hating on him.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761589]Well just look at the rosters. That’s where the talent gap comes. The 2-4 contributors in the finals for the Cavs were Gooden, Boobie, and Sasha Pavlovic. None of them would even be starters on the Spurs. Perhaps barely even rotation guys.

The games were close because the pace was slow and Lebron, despite shooting poorly, controlled that aspect and was excellent defensively.

The games being close doesn’t make the supporting cast better than they were.[/QUOTE]

So it was just because of Bran? zzz why do I even ask y'all about anything you'll never give his teams any credit.

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14761599]So it was just because of Bran? zzz why do I even ask y'all about anything you'll never give his teams any credit.[/QUOTE]

I mean he was by far the best player..? And no one else that contributed would even get minutes on the Spurs

You earlier called the 2008 Lakers a one man team so get off me with this bullshit :lol

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14761591]Always found it weird how ImKobe has a LeBron avatar despite always hating on him.[/QUOTE]

because he's a kobe stan deep down, "acting" as a lakers fan lol. shit talks bron ever chance he gets and barely praises him when he does well.

[QUOTE=Keno;14761603]because he's a kobe stan deep down, "acting" as a lakers fan lol. shit talks bron ever chance he gets and barely praises him when he does well.[/QUOTE]

Kobe's death + Lakers winning the chip killed off 99% of the LeBron haters that were Kobetards.

There are a few left.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761601]I mean he was by far the best player..? And no one else that contributed would even get minutes on the Spurs

You earlier called the 2008 Lakers a one man team so get off me with this bullshit :lol[/QUOTE]

Look at their 4-8 in that series lmao.. you're going overboard with the Bran stanning on this one bro. That Spurs team was old as ****.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761601]I mean he was by far the best player..? And no one else that contributed would even get minutes on the Spurs

You earlier called the 2008 Lakers a one man team so get off me with this bullshit :lol[/QUOTE]

Ridiculous that he hypes LeBron's teammates from 2007, then calls the '08 Lakers a 1 man team even though they had Gasol. You just made him look like a fool.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14761708]Ridiculous that he hypes LeBron's teammates from 2007, then calls the '08 Lakers a 1 man team even though they had Gasol. You just made him look like a fool.[/QUOTE]

Gasol put up 13 ppg & was borderline trash in 3 out of 5 games lmao. At least the Cavs held TD in check and dominated the offensive glass. Give the supporting cast & Mike Brown credit because it wasn't Bran keeping them close in that Finals or the ECSF in '08 when he was bricking everything & turning it over the first 4 games.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14761708]Ridiculous that he hypes LeBron's teammates from 2007, then calls the '08 Lakers a 1 man team even though they had Gasol. You just made him look like a fool.[/QUOTE]
He's so dimwitted lmao.

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14761704]Look at their 4-8 in that series lmao.. you're going overboard with the Bran stanning on this one bro. That Spurs team was old as ****.[/QUOTE]

I’m not claiming they’re the greatest team of all time or anything. But they were a 60 win team with the #1 SRS in the league by a pretty decent margin. You’re “they’re old!” statement doesn’t work.

Drew Gooden and Sasha Pavlovic aren’t really going to cut it against that. If you remove Bron from the situation you know that’s like a 24 win team a best.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761720]I’m not claiming they’re the greatest team of all time or anything. But they were a 60 win team with the #1 SRS in the league by a pretty decent margin. You’re “they’re old!” statement doesn’t work.

Drew Gooden and Sasha Pavlovic aren’t really going to cut it against that. If you remove Bron from the situation you know that’s like a 24 win team a best.[/QUOTE]

If you remove Bron from the 2023 Lakers they're a 55 win team.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761720]I’m not claiming they’re the greatest team of all time or anything. But they were a 60 win team with the #1 SRS in the league by a pretty decent margin. You’re “they’re old!” statement doesn’t work.

Drew Gooden and Sasha Pavlovic aren’t really going to cut it against that. If you remove Bron from the situation you know that’s like a 24 win team a best.[/QUOTE]

Yes it does. You could replace their 4-10 with the supporting players on the Cavs and they'd be a better team. Cavs won 50 games, had a top 4 defense and were 7th in SRS, so you're not talking about a bad team here.

Your excuse for these games being close despite Bran's terrible offense is that it was HIS defense that kept them in it, disregarding what Big Z, Andy V & Gooden did on the offensive glass. Andy V and Big Z split minutes so you're gonna make the dumb Bran stan argument of "how many Cavs averaged 10+ ppg!" and not even mention it...

You could pick either Big Z or Andy V and they'd be getting 25-30 mpg at the 5 easily as a starter in San Antonio. Heck, they had a 34 y.o Finley starting at the 2, you could easily give his minutes to Pavlovic.

Finley, Oberto, Elson, Horry & Barry weren't world-beaters by any metric.

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14761750]Yes it does. You could replace their 4-10 with the supporting players on the Cavs and they'd be a better team. Cavs won 50 games, had a top 4 defense and were 7th in SRS, so you're not talking about a bad team here.

Your excuse for these games being close despite Bran's terrible offense is that it was HIS defense that kept them in it, disregarding what Big Z, Andy V & Gooden did on the offensive glass. Andy V and Big Z split minutes so you're gonna make the dumb Bran stan argument of "how many Cavs averaged 10+ ppg!" and not even mention it...

You could pick either Big Z or Andy V and they'd be getting 25-30 mpg at the 5 easily as a starter in San Antonio. Heck, they had a 34 y.o Finley starting at the 2, you could easily give his minutes to Pavlovic.

Finley, Oberto, Elson, Horry & Barry weren't world-beaters by any metric.[/QUOTE]

Okay so let’s say the 4-10 were fairly equal or even a slight advantage to the Cavs. Wouldn’t the fact that the Spurs had an insanely superior 2-3 really make the difference?

It’s okay to admit that the 07 Cavs didn’t have a very good supporting cast. They were certainly scrappy but relatively untalented. When going against a team with a top 10 guy ever and 2 other HOFers all in their prime? Again...not really gonna cut it.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761761]Okay so let’s say the 4-10 were fairly equal or even a slight advantage to the Cavs. Wouldn’t the fact that the Spurs had an insanely superior 2-3 really make the difference?

It’s okay to admit that the 07 Cavs didn’t have a very good supporting cast. They were certainly scrappy but relatively untalented. When going against a team with a top 10 guy ever and 2 other HOFers all in their prime? Again...not really gonna cut it.[/QUOTE]

There wasn't that insane of a difference, just that Bran was no Kobe. You could make the same argument for the Lakers in '08 with 2 of their starters out & Pau not playing up to par but KB was unstoppable in those close moments no matter who you put in front of him. You can't just chalk shit up to Bran's supporting cast and absolve him of blame.

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14761768][B]There wasn't that insane of a difference, just that Bran was no Kobe[/B]. You could make the same argument for the Lakers in '08 with 2 of their starters out & Pau not playing up to par but KB was unstoppable in those close moments no matter who you put in front of him. You can't just chalk shit up to Bran's supporting cast and absolve him of blame.[/QUOTE]

Lol okay.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761773]Lol okay.[/QUOTE]

A historic/insane difference but they get outscored by just 6 pts a game with Bran putting up one of the worst series by a superstar in Finals history. Ok lol.

Oh & how are you going to defend the Cavs losing close games vs. Boston the following year? He went 2/18 with 10 TO and they lose by 4 on the road.. They win 2 at home with him putting up 21 ppg on 33%FG in Games 3 & 4. I guess it's just his individual defense & he had no one in Cleveland. What a joke.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14761761]Okay so let’s say the 4-10 were fairly equal or even a slight advantage to the Cavs. Wouldn’t the fact that the Spurs had an insanely superior 2-3 really make the difference?

It’s okay to admit that the 07 Cavs didn’t have a very good supporting cast. They were certainly scrappy but relatively untalented. When going against a team with a top 10 guy ever and 2 other HOFers all in their prime? Again...not really gonna cut it.[/QUOTE]

The Cavs were literally a 1-man team lol. The 2 years before Bron came they won 24 and 30 games or something :roll:

The roster was one of the worst in NBA history at best and Bron took them immediately to the finals as soon as he arrived.

How can anyone even dispute that. He joined one of the worst teams in the NBA at that time and beat the best with that dumpster. Just look at all his teammates back then, they never made it anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Nb1;14762213]The Cavs were literally a 1-man team lol. The 2 years before Bron came they won 24 and 30 games or something :roll:

The roster was one of the worst in NBA history at best and Bron took them immediately to the finals as soon as he arrived.

How can anyone even dispute that. He joined one of the worst teams in the NBA at that time and beat the best with that dumpster. Just look at all his teammates back then, they never made it anywhere else.[/QUOTE]

Then he jumped ship like the chronic loser he was.

"Not five, not six, not seven...."

:roll:

And that's the guy you choose to fluff.

:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=Full Court;14762404]Then he jumped ship like the chronic loser he was.

"Not five, not six, not seven...."

:roll:

And that's the guy you choose to fluff.

:lebronamazed:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, he gave them a ring and when his mission was done he went to another mediocre team who was barely winning 20 games a season before he arrived and also handed them a ring. Dude just takes on the biggest challenges possible instead of staying in his comfort zone in 1 team. He’d have 4 more rings if he just stayed with 1 team but he just wants to defy the odds. People said he’d never win in the west? Went in there and immediatly won making all the haters look stupid :roll:

[QUOTE=Nb1;14763049]Yeah, he gave them a ring and when his mission was done he went to another mediocre team who was barely winning 20 games a season before he arrived and also handed them a ring. Dude just takes on the biggest challenges possible instead of staying in his comfort zone in 1 team. He’d have 4 more rings if he just stayed with 1 team but he just wants to defy the odds. People said he’d never win in the west? Went in there and immediatly won making all the haters look stupid :roll:[/QUOTE]

He hasn't taken on a challenge in his life. He's made a career out of seeking the easy road.

And the fact that you have your head up his rectum says more about YOU than anything. :confusedshrug: