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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14776982]If he was at a shooting range shooting on ig, would that still trigger y’all?
If he flashed the phone at his waist showing he had a gun then kept zooming in and out on his legal gun ownership paperwork without saying a word would that trigger y’all?
What if he was hunting wild pigs in Texas using a rifle on ig while blasting nba young boy would that trigger y’all?
I’m just trying to see what would trigger your fake outrage and what doesn’t lol….it’s funny to me[/QUOTE]
Flashing guns on IG in that fashion is something that is quite common for thugs/gang bangers to do. So it is him acting like a thug, pretending to be a thug, or actually being a thug that is getting him into trouble. That thug/gangster culture doesn't sell girl scout cookies on the weekend and volunteer to help the homeless. No, that thug/gangster culture sells drugs, robs people, and murders them.
If he was at a shooting range, he would not be suspended.
So yes, there is a huge difference. But I know some of you are too bull-headed to understand or accept that difference.
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14776983]I’m just waiting to see the collage of politicians holding guns to the applause of the same people who would call ja a thug. You know someone is assembling it now. These douche bags wearing Ar15 pins on the senate floor after mass shootings.[/QUOTE]
Nobody here is upset thats hes holding a gun. It’s the woke NBA who made that a no-go, not ISH.
People here are just clowning him for how dumb he is to post a video of it after he got sanctioned already.
You and Mask arguing against things nobody said, trying to deflect this to some kind of racial/political thing when nobody is making it that.
It’s a “Ja Morant Is Stupid” thing and thats it.
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[QUOTE=highwhey;14776988]jup. i mean yuup. sorry, the mexican tounge slipped for a bit there, wouldn't want to scare any of 'them' in this thread with my accent.[/QUOTE]
You don't scare anyone, pendejo.
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14776987]I literally see girls posting thirst traps at 30+ all day and men showing themselves holding dead animals they killed hunting 60 yet you aren’t outraged that they haven’t grown up. I really need to stop trying to reason with people on the internet
Carry the hell on y’all. Have fun. Logic doesn’t work. Enjoy virtual signaling. I’m out. You are a better person than Ja. Congrats everyone[/QUOTE]
Bro, I'm seriously not remotely offended by him brandishing a gun, I legitimately find him EXTREMELY corny and a try hard, that's my issue with him. I'm sure I'd feel the same way about the majority of photos and videos uploaded to social media. All anyone is trying to do there is impress others and show off.
And I reiterate again, I'd like to think if the people you referenced got fined and suspended for posting those photos/videos earlier, they wouldn't do it again literally a couple months later. The fact you can't admit he's fcking retarded to do this again just shows your bias in the matter :lol
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14776983]I’m just waiting to see the collage of politicians holding guns to the applause of the same people who would call ja a thug. You know someone is assembling it now. These douche bags wearing Ar15 pins on the senate floor after mass shootings.[/QUOTE]
We all know it’s a race thing but if we just flat out say that people will get so offended they will just shut down and refuse to even entertain that’s the reason. So it’s no point
I’m sure if it was jokic doing this (with the same gun history)listening to slipknot, people would be just as outraged. I’m 100% sure lol….ok now I’m out
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14776987]I literally see girls posting thirst traps at 30+ all day and men showing themselves holding dead animals they killed hunting at 60+ years old. yet you aren’t outraged that they haven’t grown up. I really need to stop trying to reason with people on the internet
Carry the hell on y’all. Have fun. Logic doesn’t work. Enjoy virtual signaling. I’m out. You are a better person than Ja. Congrats everyone[/QUOTE]
No one cares to be honest. JA was on track to be a billionaire. Just a shame that’s all. Whoever he’s rolling with will get sick of his games eventually and he will be on the news as a statistic
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=AirBonner;14776985]Ja lost $40million the first time. This guy needs [B]real prison[/B][/QUOTE]
Chill. He hasn't committed any serious crimes that we're aware of. He just apparently lacks any sense of rational judgment, which is scary. I hope he receives some form of help before it's too late.
You lose money, get suspended, get counseling, and yet you're still here, flashing guns that got you into trouble in the first place.
There's no thought behind his actions. It's just act and let what's done be done. This is the thought process of self-destruction. At this point, I don't even believe he cares about his career in the NBA. Sadly, it seems that career is headed swiftly down the drain. Unreal...
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14776993]We all know it’s a race thing but if we just flat out say that people will get so offended they will just shut down and refuse to even entertain that’s the reason. So it’s no point
I’m sure if it was jokic doing this (with the same gun history)listening to slipknot, people would be just as outraged. I’m 100% sure lol….ok now I’m out[/QUOTE]
wE'rE NOt OffeNDed bY dA GuNs, we;RE jUsT dissAPoinTED he'S tHroWIng aWAy hIS caREEr, BuT aLSO, he'S A tHUG.
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14776990]Nobody here is upset thats hes holding a gun. It’s the woke NBA who made that a no-go, not ISH.
People here are just clowning him for how dumb he is to post a video of it after he got sanctioned already.
You and Mask arguing against things nobody said, trying to deflect this to some kind of racial/political thing when nobody is making it that.
It’s a “Ja Morant Is Stupid” thing and thats it.[/QUOTE]
I don’t want to fight with any of y’all. Y’all have fun using your little coded words like “thug” ect.
You win
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14776987]I literally see girls posting thirst traps at 30+ all day and men showing themselves holding dead animals they killed hunting at 60+ years old. yet you aren’t outraged that they haven’t grown up. I really need to stop trying to reason with people on the internet
Carry the hell on y’all. Have fun. Logic doesn’t work. Enjoy virtual signaling. I’m out. You are a better person than Ja. Congrats everyone[/QUOTE]
You're creating a dilemma that doesn't need to be made.
Who here is defending people that post pictures of their hunts? This is not a hunting forum, it's an NBA forum. So we are talking about an NBA player, not random hunters. Both realities and scenarios can be stupid. You're just bringing that up because you feel like Ja is being unjustly persecuted. I can assure you, he is not.
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[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14777001]I don’t want to fight with any of y’all. Y’all have fun using your little coded words like “thug” ect.
You win[/QUOTE]
A thug can be anyone. If you want to associate that word with Black people, then that's on you.
Imagine being held down by a word and at you're own doing too. Crazy.
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14777002]You're creating a dilemma that doesn't need to be made.
Who here is defending people that post pictures of their hunts? This is not a hunting forum, it's an NBA forum. So we are talking about an NBA player, not random hunters. Both realities and scenarios can be stupid. [B]You're just bringing that up because you feel like Ja is being unjustly persecuted. I can assure you, he is not.[/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, trying to pin this on race is not gonna fly. Him being black is irrelevant to the idiocy of his decisions. If Chris Andersen or Jason Williams did the same thing they'd be criticized for being stupid and try hard wanksta's too.
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I didn’t make it anything. It just is what it is. Someone who looks like Ja holds an AR on social media he’s trying to be a thug gangsta and so on. Someone who looks like Kyle Korver might well be shooting a campaign poster. He can do it with the same model that killed 22 people that morning. He can put it all over social media. And he will win too.
People from every walk of life show guns on social media. Only ones who look a certain way are generally portrayed as trying to be gangstas and thugs.
Generally black and Hispanics….thugs. White guys? Different language. Dudes in here talking about he needs to be in jail….
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777007]I didn’t make it anything. It just is what it is. Someone who looks like Ja holds an AR on social media he’s trying to be a thug gangsta and so on. Someone who looks like Kyle Korver might well be shooting a campaign poster. He can do it with the same model that killed 22 people that morning. He can put it all over social media. And he will win too.
People from every walk of life show guns on social media. Only ones who look a certain way are generally portrayed as trying to be gangstas and thugs.
Generally black and Hispanics….thugs. White guys? Different language. Dudes in here talking about he needs to be in jail….[/QUOTE]
Cringe.
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14776974]He's not a fake wannabe wanksta like Ja, but he's a pretty cringe pseudo-intellectual who thinks he's MUCH smarter than he really is :lol Believing the earth is flat goes beyond not being a sellout.
And I made the comparison because I think there are a lot of similarities between the two, even if the circumstances are different. I'm not going to revise VERY recent history like you and pretend the guy hasn't demanded to be traded literally multiple times, straight up left his team for weeks for no reason/to attend birthday parties, and has burned bridges with every single team he's been on. Acting like Kyrie hasn't been a total locker room nuisance for years now is absolutely ridiculous :lol[/QUOTE]
Kyrie is probably the most skilled scorer point guard of all time. I'm a Curry fan and I've seen him embarrass Curry H2H.
He just isn't into the mainstream narratives. He's an actual free thinking individual. The whole flat earth thing is just a meme to discredit him by the media. It's going over your head that he is just mocking sheep with stuff like that.
Either way... kyrie probably has an IQ of like 115. Ja has an IQ in the 80s. If you ever hear them speak off their vocabulary alone you'd see that is apparent.
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14777001]I don’t want to fight with any of y’all. Y’all have fun using your little coded words like “thug” ect.
You win[/QUOTE]
I don't understand why you're so intent on proving some tangential point about race.
If the same individual were white and had committed all the acts that Ja has, we'd be saying the same things. You can introduce race into any subject to divert from the main point. This isn't a topic about race; it's a topic about an NBA player jeopardizing his career by behaving irresponsibly.
If you genuinely believe all the actions Ja has taken are acceptable, then that reflects your moral compass. However, the NBA, with its codes of conduct, deems it unacceptable. Ja plays in the NBA, which is why this is a problem. If he weren't in the league, we wouldn't be discussing him. He would simply be another individual behaving recklessly to garner some form of attention.
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=tpols;14777009]Kyrie is probably the most skilled scorer point guard of all time. I'm a Curry fan and I've seen him embarrass Curry H2H.
He just isn't into the mainstream narratives. He's an actual free thinking individual. The whole flat earth thing is just a meme to discredit him by the media. It's going over your head that he is just mocking sheep with stuff like that.
Either way... kyrie probably has an IQ of like 115. Ja has an IQ in the 80s. If you ever hear them speak off their vocabulary alone you'd see that is apparent.[/QUOTE]
I agree, Kyrie is both a better player than Ja and much more intelligent. That doesn't change my main point though, that despite those differences, like Ja, he's also been a huge off the court distraction for his teams, and was frankly a toxic presence in Boston & esp Brooklyn.
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Honest question for the Embiids and KBlazes of the world. Who would you be more afraid of?
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp-zn5qWIAQek68.jpg:large[/IMG]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTyogz9UUAAhQgY.jpg[/IMG]
Or...
[IMG]https://unitedgangs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/gangster-disciples-gd.jpeg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14777014]Honest question for the Embiids and KBlazes of the world. Who would you be more afraid of?
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp-zn5qWIAQek68.jpg:large[/IMG]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTyogz9UUAAhQgY.jpg[/IMG]
Or...
[IMG]https://unitedgangs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/gangster-disciples-gd.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Those are the same pics bro.... are you seriously trying to imply the context of the situation matters? :facepalm
Racist cracker.
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777007]I didn’t make it anything. It just is what it is. Someone who looks like Ja holds an AR on social media he’s trying to be a thug gangsta and so on. Someone who looks like Kyle Korver might well be shooting a campaign poster. He can do it with the same model that killed 22 people that morning. He can put it all over social media. And he will win too.
People from every walk of life show guns on social media. Only ones who look a certain way are generally portrayed as trying to be gangstas and thugs.
Generally black and Hispanics….thugs. White guys? Different language. Dudes in here talking about he needs to be in jail….[/QUOTE]
You hit the mail on the head.
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[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14777015]Those are the same pics bro.... are you seriously trying to imply the context of the situation matters? :facepalm
Racist cracker.[/QUOTE]
Oh those are the same pics?? :roll:
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777007]I didn’t make it anything. It just is what it is. Someone who looks like Ja holds an AR on social media he’s trying to be a thug gangsta and so on. Someone who looks like Kyle Korver might well be shooting a campaign poster. He can do it with the same model that killed 22 people that morning. He can put it all over social media. And he will win too.
People from every walk of life show guns on social media. Only ones who look a certain way are generally portrayed as trying to be gangstas and thugs.
[B]Generally black and Hispanics….thugs. [/B]White guys? Different language. Dudes in here talking about he needs to be in jail….[/QUOTE]
:roll:
Italian and Irish mobsters used to be called thugs all the time. The word goes back LONG before Tupac and Ice Cube appropriated it to describe THEMSELVES.
Black rappers took a universal word, applied it to THEMSELVES, but then cry foul when everyone else says “ok, we’ll call you a thug” :roll:
The amount of mental gymnastics people will go thru to leverage the victim card is insane.
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14777017]Oh those are the same pics?? :roll:[/QUOTE]
Yes, obviously. They are all flaunting guns for social media. The context of the situation obviously DOES NOT matter in the slightest.
If they were white it would be okay, but since they are black then everyone in those pictures is automatically deemed a thug by racists such as yourself.
- blaze
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Somehow, Ja back to doing stupid shit that leads to another suspension turned into a race war. :oldlol::roll:
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Tupac was in a group called "Thug Life" :lol
But yeah, when a non-Black person says it, there are ulterior motives behind it. :facepalm
You can't make this shit up with some people, especially some of these suckas on this board. They want to be a victim. A victim of anything.
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Re: Ja Morant on video flashing another gun
I'm conflicted about this. What is Ja doing wrong if he's simply practicing his 2nd amendment right here? It's not like he's at a Grizzlies practice facility or in a league office. He's in his own car or elsewhere doing things like this. Is it extremely cringe? Yes. But should the league stop someone from displaying their 2nd amendment right? Would we say the same thing about someone displaying a cross, a star of David, or a star and crescent?
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[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14777024]I'm conflicted about this. What is Ja doing wrong if he's simply practicing his 2nd amendment right here? It's not like he's at a Grizzlies practice facility or in a league office. He's in his own car or elsewhere doing things like this. Is it extremely cringe? Yes. But should the league stop someone from displaying their 2nd amendment right? Would we say the same thing about someone displaying a cross, a star of David, or a star and crescent?[/QUOTE]
He's flashing his gun in antagonistic, stereotypical 'hood' ways, after he's already been suspended for it, after he's already been in street fights with minors and portrays himself like a hoodlum.
But sure, if you ignore ALL avaliable context of the situation you can desperately make this case.
I mean teams suspend their players for shit like this all the time right? What he's doing is totally within reason and not completely out of the ordinary or self destructive at all.
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[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14777020]Yes, obviously. They are all flaunting guns for social media. The context of the situation obviously DOES NOT matter in the slightest.
If they were white it would be okay, but since they are black then everyone in those pictures is automatically deemed a thug by racists such as yourself.
- blaze[/QUOTE]
Because you are too stupid to understand things, the guy in the first pic is Colion Noir. Go look him up. Guess what? Him and I share the same political ideology.
And there is a high likelihood that the last picture is a group of people who commit crimes for a living. Not go on social media to show off their most recent purchase at Bob's Gun Shop.
So Black men who do not commit crimes and are not in gangs are not thugs, and Black men who do are. Same goes for any race.
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14777027]Because you are too stupid to understand things, the guy in the first pic is Colion Noir. Go look him up. Guess what? Him and I share the same political ideology.
And there is a high likelihood that the last picture is a group of people who commit crimes for a living. Not go on social media to show off their most recent purchase at Bob's Gun Shop.
So Black men who do not commit crimes and are not in gangs are not thugs, and Black men who do are. Same goes for any race.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit his posts are going WAY over your head :lol
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[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14777024]I'm conflicted about this. What is Ja doing wrong if he's simply practicing his 2nd amendment right here? It's not like he's at a Grizzlies practice facility or in a league office. He's in his own car or elsewhere doing things like this. Is it extremely cringe? Yes. But should the league stop someone from displaying their 2nd amendment right? Would we say the same thing about someone displaying a cross, a star of David, or a star and crescent?[/QUOTE]
We are doomed as a society if we are equating guns to religious symbols.
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[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14777026]He's flashing his gun in antagonistic, stereotypical 'hood' ways, after he's already been suspended for it, after he's already been in street fights with minors and portrays himself like a hoodlum.
But sure, if you ignore ALL avaliable context of the situation you can desperately make this case.
I mean teams suspend their players for shit like this all the time right? What he's doing is totally within reason and not completely out of the ordinary or self destructive at all.[/QUOTE]
As opposed to flashing a gun as a white person in a manner that may portray a stereotypical "mass shooter"? Where do we really draw the line here?
I get that he's behaved recklessly in the past, for which he's been punished. But getting into street fights isn't in the bill of rights. If the gun is legal, then I don't see the problem.
If he brought a weapon into a team facility or league facility, then that's different. But if he's doing his own thing, then that's his life. It reminds me of the days that David Stern would fine players for not wearing suits at NBA games and it became an issue with Allen Iverson.
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[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14777019]:roll:
Italian and Irish mobsters used to be called thugs all the time. The word goes back LONG before Tupac and Ice Cube appropriated it to describe THEMSELVES.
Black rappers took a universal word, applied it to THEMSELVES, but then cry foul when everyone else says “ok, we’ll call you a thug” :roll:
The amount of mental gymnastics people will go thru to leverage the victim card is insane.[/QUOTE]
Talking gymnastics then referencing the era of Bugsy Seigel when talking about language used 4 minutes ago?
Gonna go ahead and leave you be on this one.
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The bigger issue all of you seem to be avoiding too because you're all focused on his rights and race, and being offended, and comparing apples to oranges, is the message this sends to the millions of young people who follow him.
If you want less guns on the streets, less guns in the hands of children, less crime, less murder, then why on Earth would you record yourself flashing a weapon? And then why on Earth would some people defend that?? Ja Morant isn't a nobody off the streets. He's one of the most influential people in the world. But yeah, let's focus on words we use, the color of his skin and inconsequential nonsense that you dummies want to fret about.
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14777029]We are doomed as a society if we are equating guns to religious symbols.[/QUOTE]
How so? They're both in the Bill of Rights. As such, they share some parallel given the inherent nature of "rights" as an American citizen.
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It seems that some people are evaluating this situation without considering its context. Those asserting that they see no problem with Ja flashing a gun in a car should remember that he was recently suspended for flashing a gun at a Denver-area nightclub, which resulted in an eight-game suspension. Ja subsequently received counseling and issued a public apology, stating, '[I]I don’t condone violence of any kind, but I take full responsibility for my actions. I made a grave mistake. I can see the image that I've projected of myself through my recent mistakes. However, in the future, I intend to demonstrate who the real Ja is, what I stand for, and change this narrative that everyone has bought into[/I].'
Now, with context, can we genuinely assert that Ja has changed? Has he learned anything? Evidently, it seems he's back to behaving irresponsibly for some form of attention. It's akin to persistently having car trouble but refusing to address it. Sooner or later, you can expect to find yourself stranded on the road. Ja is that problematic car. Hopefully, he will seek assistance to improve himself before it's too late.
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[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14777032]As opposed to flashing a gun as a white person in a manner that may portray a stereotypical "mass shooter"? Where do we really draw the line here?
I get that he's behaved recklessly in the past, for which he's been punished. But getting into street fights isn't in the bill of rights. If the gun is legal, then I don't see the problem.
If he brought a weapon into a team facility or league facility, then that's different. But if he's doing his own thing, then that's his life. It reminds me of the days that David Stern would fine players for not wearing suits at NBA games and it became an issue with Allen Iverson.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know mass shooter flashed their guns for social media clout. I thought they just went and killed people because they were sick in the head.
And you're missing the point. Ja is not flashing his gun to exercise his rights, he's flashing his gun to portray a thug/gangster/hoodlum persona... if Austin Reaves was listening to rap and posing with a pistol in his car he would get suspended too. If he posted a picture next to a deer with a rifle on his shoulder he wouldn't. The context obviously matters
Dude was literally sent to rehab for this shit 2 months ago and here you are pretending like it's all good. Insanity.
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777007]I didn’t make it anything. It just is what it is. Someone who looks like Ja holds an AR on social media he’s trying to be a thug gangsta and so on. Someone who looks like Kyle Korver might well be shooting a campaign poster. He can do it with the same model that killed 22 people that morning. He can put it all over social media. And he will win too.
People from every walk of life show guns on social media. Only ones who look a certain way are generally portrayed as trying to be gangstas and thugs.
Generally black and Hispanics….thugs. White guys? Different language. Dudes in here talking about he needs to be in jail….[/QUOTE]
He's dumb to cost himself 100s of millions of dollars doing this but I just looked it up and Tennessee is an open carry state.
How does somebody get in trouble for doing something totally legal?
The thing is though that you don't go hunting with a handgun. He's clearly promoting gangbanging. This isnt a redneck in camo with a hunting rifle.
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[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14777040]How so? They're both in the Bill of Rights. As such, they share some parallel given the inherent nature of "rights" as an American citizen.[/QUOTE]
I understand what you are saying. I support the Constitution more than most on here. It's when reading an autopsy report and you find the manner in which someone was killed, that there's a high probability that you will not find the method of the homicide to be via religious symbols or religion in general.
So there is a bigger inherent danger in American culture with guns that shouldn't be celebrated or placed on equal footing with the kind of religion someone practices.
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Ja is just doing it to impress girls in his IG live. Don't consider him a thug, just a try hard and an idiot. Does not deserve jail time, so just relax on that talk.
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the rage from the lot of you validates my original statement. you can mask it all you want with sarcasm, parody it, put rolling emojis...you're just further validating the underlying prejudice in this situation. have a good sunday.