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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14911056]So after Talking tough about how they will not overpay for the NBA Warner finds out multiple other people are willing to more than double the price and they’re preparing to go to court to secure the right to match if the NBA doesn’t want to let them. The nba sees going back to free tv as a bonus that can’t be matched in a dollar for dollar equal contract. TNT wants to match the money and not let the nba choose. [SIZE=3][B]They have lost all the bass in their voice at this point[/B][/SIZE]. Probably trying to figure out why anyone will even need tnt without sports.
I think we can all find reruns of charmed and supernatural if we want them elsewhere. I literally never turn to the channel for anything but sports.[/QUOTE]
Damn KBlaze, not the bass!
[video=youtube;7PCkvCPvDXk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk[/video]
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Exclusive rights, trademarks, copyrights, and this whole concept of intellectual property is an abomination.
I’d much rather listen to Kblaze and Fultz call the games than NBC, TNT, or ESPN.
They create an artificial scarcity and rape us customers for billions and the production and product sucks.
I’m calling for a free market on calling NBA games. No state sanctioned exclusive rights to cover sports.
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[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14913805]Yeah but I dont think they really have that power like they did in the 90s, when there was basically no internet.
People have options now.
You can raise the public level by eliminating lower quality things. But if you dont eliminate them? There's gonna be a lot of people who just choose to scale down.
Like if McDonalds started serving broccoli and quinoa, their millions of customers arent gonna keep going to McDonalds and adapting to the new menu. They'll go to Burger King. Or Wendy's. Or wherever they can get the low end trash they prefer. And I say that as someone who eats at McDonalds from time to time. More often than I watch "First Take" certainly. I guess my body has more tolerance for junk than my mind. But you could only eliminate consumption of fast food by eliminating all fast food. If it's out there somewhere, people will go to it. ESPN cant make tik tok and all the gossip oriented online competitors away. They cant beat em, they have to join em.[/QUOTE]
As of now it looks like the smallest Wembys next 3 contracts could be if healthy is 316 million, then 529, and if he’s still on the spurs for the 10 year one team bump….5 years 760 million when he’s 29. Just thought you’d like to know what the current system has reaped.
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14913753][B]So January to April will be a big free TV primetime game or two on NBC Sunday night.[/B] They also have the right to two days of weekday games, but I’m betting they put some of that on Peacock.
All that is for TNT to take them to court over the definition of a match. Turns out they’re willing to “overpay” after all And I’m mad at the NBA might not let them. I feel like a compromise would be letting TNT keep Tuesday and a designated playoff round At the old rate.
Get that salary cap up to 250 million.[/QUOTE]
Sweet.
Cant wait to tune in for these epic showdowns featuring the likes of Bones Hyland, Hayward Highsmith, Simone Fontecchio, and Tobias Harris.
LETS. GO!!!!!
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14913817]As of now it looks like the smallest Wembys next 3 contracts could be if healthy is 316 million, then 529, and if he’s still on the spurs for the 10 year one team bump….5 years 760 million when he’s 29. Just thought you’d like to know what the current system has reaped.[/QUOTE]
The NBA shut down and claimed force majeur to withhold player salaries for half a year over Covid 19.
What happens when “Disease X” a 20x stronger pandemic comes along, which according to the director of the WHO this past January, is a factual certainty?
[quote] 'Disease X': WHO warns future pandemic could be 20 times deadlier
“When the next pandemic comes knocking — and it will — we must be ready to answer decisively, collectively and equitably,” [WHO Director Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus] added.
“It is not an exaggeration to say that there is potential of a Disease X event just around the corner,” Pranab Chatterjee, a researcher at the Department of International Health at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public
[url]https://nypost.com/2023/05/23/pandemic-even-deadlier-than-covid-is-coming-warns-who/[/url][/quote]
You think these TV deals will still be relevant by the time Yama is 29? Theyre a giant bubble the corporate world is using for a quick smash n grab. Theyre not sustainable :oldlol:
World War 3 and “Disease X” will have those contracts off the books in 4 years tops. If/when televised basketball resumes afterward it will be generated by AI.
Deal with it.
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The deal being signed now ends when he’s 31. He’s gonna be over a billion in contracts comfortably.
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14913828]The deal being signed now ends when he’s 31. He’s gonna be over a billion in contracts comfortably.[/QUOTE]
Aint gonna happen bro :lol
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What’s stopping people like Kblaze or Fultz from calling the games and airing that dialogue and commentary on YouTube?
The state.
The only reason billions of dollars are to be made is because the state artificially creates scarcity of the broadcast.
Make no mistake sports media is a state sanctioned monopoly.
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400 million won’t even be a Supermax soon. Be a regular old Desmond Bane ass deal.
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[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;14913833]What’s stopping people like Kblaze or Fultz from calling the games and airing that dialogue and commentary on YouTube?
The state.
The only reason billions of dollars are to be made is because the state artificially creates scarcity of the broadcast.
Make no mistake sports media is a state sanctioned monopoly.[/QUOTE]
The NBA might let me get away with it as a recap. The NFL would destroy me though. The NFL took down my original YouTube channel with my many thousands of subscribers. I made an Ed Reed video and they could not let it stand. 200 nba videos never so much as a warning. NFL did me in immediately. Not even meant to be that tall
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14913839]The NBA might let me get away with it as a recap. The NFL would destroy me though. The NFL took down my original YouTube channel with my many thousands of subscribers. I made an Ed Reed video and they could not let it stand. 200 nba videos never so much as a warning. NFL did me in immediately. Not even meant to be that tall[/QUOTE]
Shit homie I don’t even know what your voice sounds like but I would definitely listen to you call the games like a radio broadcast. Fultz too.
It would be hella fun if anyone could call the games.
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I realize now the speech to text caught the tail end of my girlfriend talking to an employee about this beach bunny outfit she’s about to get
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[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;14913842]Shit homie I don’t even know what your voice sounds like but I would definitely listen to you call the games like a radio broadcast. Fultz too.
It would be hella fun if anyone could call the games.[/QUOTE]
The review I’m always given by people on Xbox who only know me from here is that I sound way”blacker” than they expected. People from the south think I sound like I’m from the north but people outside the south think I sound like Shannon Sharpe.
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Blaze doesn't sound anything like what you expect reading his posts. He sounds much more "proper" here than he does in real life. GOBB sounds exactly like you would expect though.
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TNT going to pick up some college football games.
[url]https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40198650/tnt-sports-air-select-cfp-games-sublicense-espn[/url]
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The plot thickens: [url]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/23/warner-bros-discovery-considers-matching-nba-package-slated-for-amazon.html[/url]
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What happens to the March Madness/Turner Sports marriage?
The past seasons, the NBA guys have been calling March Madness games. What happens now with the NBA leaving Turner. Who gonna do the games now?
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[url]https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/charles-barkley-reboot-inside-the-nba-at-own-company-tnt-sports-loses-nba-rights-1235907146/[/url]
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[url]https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-finalizes-tv-contract-with-espn-nbc-and-amazon-but-tnt-still-in-the-game-report-190357652.html[/url]
[QUOTE]The NBA and the three media partners have reportedly agreed to all of the language in the contracts, but have not yet signed. If Zaslav chooses to keep TNT involved, he is likely to go after Amazon's package, per The Athletic.
The deal will next move to the NBA board of governors, which has meetings next Tuesday in Las Vegas, for approval. Per The Athletic, the NBA will then send the finished contracts to TNT following board approval; at that point, TNT will have five days to choose whether to match the deal. If the company declines, the NBA is then expected to make an official announcement about the TV deal ahead of the Olympics at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]
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76 billion over 11 years. I wonder how much longer people will be freaking out over supermax.
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[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14927674]76 billion over 11 years. I wonder how much longer people will be freaking out over supermax.[/QUOTE]
People in the league today are going to make 100 million a season. 80 will be pretty soon. SGA will make 80 million by the end of his next contract.
The deal is for triple the money of the one that people felt exploded the cap last time.
We will literally not even remember any current or past Supermax as having even been worth mentioning.
The next guys we call overpaid will be on 470 million dollar deals and sit out like John Wall and Kwahi.
All those “giant” deals become Mike Conley forgotten just as anyone with sense saw they would.
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bradley beal needs another super max
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14908209]Ok so it’s gonna be about $76 billion up from 24 billion. They wanted to triple it and they did better than that. I can’t even imagine where the salary cap is going to be soon. The early projections show a max contract will be about $400 million at the start of it. Either SGA or Jokic will get 400 million summer after next. Jokic will have the ten years in to get the super super max.
Somewhere in the near future players are going to make 85 million a season.
Oh, and Amazon officially has the rights to both the in season tournament, which will be known as the NBA cup and the play in.
All play in Games for 10 years are gonna be on Amazon only.[/QUOTE]
****.... will never pay to watch this garbage.
We will still have morons like Doris Burke yapping over the F'n NBA finals!
ABC did not even spend the money to keep the people who knew the game!
and the ads?... shit, only an idiot let's ads decide what to purchase. Who watches that crap?
and 80 to 90 million a year for playing basketball? i don't see how any sane person can justify that.
would not surprise me if ads somehow ruin the TV viewing experience in the future... like it has now in the NHL, with moving digital ads on the ice and boards.
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tnt still can hav bball if matchs what nba contract is w/in 10 days.
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[QUOTE=warriorfan;14927683]bradley beal needs another super max[/QUOTE]
:roll:
Oh holy ****.
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[QUOTE=tomtucker;14927702]****.... will never pay to watch this garbage.
We will still have morons like Doris Burke yapping over the F'n NBA finals!
ABC did not even spend the money to keep the people who knew the game!
and the ads?... shit, only an idiot let's ads decide what to purchase. Who watches that crap?
and 80 to 90 million a year for playing basketball? i don't see how any sane person can justify that.
would not surprise me if ads somehow ruin the TV viewing experience in the future... like it has now in the NHL, with moving digital ads on the ice and boards.[/QUOTE]
Nothing has to be said to justify anyone’s salary beyond their employer having the revenue to justify it due to how much they contribute to said revenue. 450 players generate a 76 billion dollar deal to see them. Those numbers make it hard for their pay to be anything poor people think makes sense to play ball.
The money just keeps going up. A ten year vet one team bonus Supermax from a couple years ago is less than a full rookie extension is now.
Either players get it to play or owners get it to own. No third option. Someone rich is getting richer.
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[QUOTE=Carbine;14913850]Blaze doesn't sound anything like what you expect reading his posts. He sounds much more "proper" here than he does in real life. [B]GOBB sounds exactly like you would expect[/B] though.[/QUOTE]
There has to be a GOBB burn every other post on ISH :roll:
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What happens to NBATV? Its operated by Turner Sports. I'm assuming either NBC or Amazon would operate that now too right?
It says TNT will target Amazon's package, can't they just target a portion of it and make up the $ difference? Amazon is going to be played 3 nights a week, can't TNT just get at least 1 of those nights? The NFL has 4 broadcast partners, so I'm not sure why the NBA can't do the same.
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14927678]People in the league today are going to make 100 million a season. 80 will be pretty soon. SGA will make 80 million by the end of his next contract.
The deal is for triple the money of the one that people felt exploded the cap last time.
We will literally not even remember any current or past Supermax as having even been worth mentioning.
The next guys we call overpaid will be on 470 million dollar deals and sit out like John Wall and Kwahi.
All those “giant” deals become Mike Conley forgotten just as anyone with sense saw they would.[/QUOTE]
Players are already making $60M-$70M a year. If the new deal is triple the value, won't that mean we should see players making ~$200M/year?
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The current CBA runs to 2030 and the rights deal goes to 2035 or 2036 so it’s hard to say what could change in the next CBA. I’d imagine some horror story like Lonzo Ball or someone making 480 million and only playing 77 games total will be used to justify owners changing the structure.
I wouldn’t be surprised if minimum pay rises a lot and max pay doesn’t get past the 90-100 a year guys are on pace to make by then. The players would likely be in favor of it. Lot more low end guys than superstars.
They would probably vote for a 5-8 million dollar minimum salary in exchange for nobody topping 100 million. The union would have a hard time convincing the low end guys to turn that down I’d imagine. Your 12th man making 12 million is easier to swallow than your best player making 130 and still taking rest days wouldn’t it? Who wants to give the next flash in the pan 540 million to immediately fall off and still get paid for years when you could instead pay a bunch of role players 9-12 instead of 2.5 on short deals you can easily get out of?
Ownership focuses on using the low end guys against the top if they have any sense. Vet minimum should be 10 million. Alter the rookie scale. Takes a huge chunk from the top I’m sure.
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Hopefully TNT steps in and takes Amazon's planned deal. I sure as **** ain't going to pay for Amazon on top of what I'm paying for cable now. Same for the NFL.... **** them.
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14927783]The current CBA runs to 2030 and the rights deal goes to 2035 or 2036 so it’s hard to say what could change in the next CBA. I’d imagine some horror story like Lonzo Ball or someone making 480 million and only playing 77 games total will be used to justify owners changing the structure.
I wouldn’t be surprised if minimum pay rises a lot and max pay doesn’t get past the 90-100 a year guys are on pace to make by then. The players would likely be in favor of it. Lot more low end guys than superstars.
They would probably vote for a 5-8 million dollar minimum salary in exchange for nobody topping 100 million. The union would have a hard time convincing the low end guys to turn that down I’d imagine. Your 12th man making 12 million is easier to swallow than your best player making 130 and still taking rest days wouldn’t it? Who wants to give the next flash in the pan 540 million to immediately fall off and still get paid for years when you could instead pay a bunch of role players 9-12 instead of 2.5 on short deals you can easily get out of?
Ownership focuses on using the low end guys against the top if they have any sense. Vet minimum should be 10 million. Alter the rookie scale. Takes a huge chunk from the top I’m sure.[/QUOTE]
Makes sense, but who knows, I'd say sky's the limit. 10 years ago, making $20M/year was thought to be pretty astounding, I doubt most fans thought we'd be where we are today.
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The Amazon package is reportedly $1.8 billion a year while TNT's current package is $1.4 billion a year.
Granted it's less games but given that it's an 11 year deal and time value of money it seems like they might match.
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As expected tnt is suing
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