Now that Harris has done interviews, Trump appears to be the favorite at the moment

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14948246]I don't see how you can say turnout will be huge when Kamala was the least liked Democrat nominee in the 2020 primaries. She polled at 3%! She wasn't elected to run in 2024, so I honestly don't know how in the world you think that the turnout will be huge for a candidate who is not very liked within her own party.

There might be an increase in turnout, but for Donald Trump. There is no way Kamala comes close to the amount of votes that Joe Biden got in 2020. She will lose.[/QUOTE]

The turnout always increases each election for both candidates. I think it's dipped like two or three times ever.

The population grows, the number of registered voters grows, the total number of voters grows.

It isn't about popularity, and Trump is going to bring the anti-Trump votes regardless. If you don't think Roe vs Wade ruffled any feathers you're not paying attention.

I think Musk alone is ruffling enough feathers to bring a record amount of anti-Trump votes.

Uh oh....

[url]https://polymarket.com/elections[/url]



:lol

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14948206]A lot of these people are in denial. [B]The pulse on the streets is definitely in favor of Trump[/B].[/QUOTE]

Well yea I mean don't you not associate with Liberals? Obviously that's your perspective :lol

"The pulse on the streets" :roll:

When it comes to the entire election

The pulse on the streets is a real thing, fellas. When you decide to leave your virginity caves and enter the real world and walk the streets, you will know what I am talking about.

*Chewing sees an internet poll lean Trump's way*

"The vibe I'm feelin on all the country's streets is....." :roll:

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14948246]I don't see how you can say turnout will be huge when Kamala was the least liked Democrat nominee in the 2020 primaries. She polled at 3%! She wasn't elected to run in 2024, so I honestly don't know how in the world you think that the turnout will be huge for a candidate who is not very liked within her own party.

There might be an increase in turnout, but for Donald Trump. There is no way Kamala comes close to the amount of votes that Joe Biden got in 2020. She will lose.[/QUOTE]

Yet Harris has higher favorability rating than Trump :lol

[url]https://x.com/NateSilver538/status/1844432550498120072[/url]

[QUOTE=Off the Court;14947316]Harris is still the favorite to win :confusedshrug:

[url]https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president[/url]

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.[/QUOTE]

Trump now up almost 10 points in this link you posted. :oldlol:

Cenk is worried.

[video=youtube;4HOFh-iuHSk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HOFh-iuHSk&t[/video]

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14948357]Trump now up almost 10 points in this link you posted. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

:roll:


That shit is hilarious.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14948357]Trump now up almost 10 points in this link you posted. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Okay, Trump is a slight favorite now. Did you read the rest of my post though? 55/45 is still a virtual coin flip, but you are using it to celebrate a Trump victory.

I can't even begin to imagine the epic meltdown you're goin got have if Kamala wins.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;14948362]Okay, Trump is a slight favorite now. Did you read the rest of my post though? [B][SIZE=4]55/45 is still a virtual coin flip[/SIZE][/B], but you are using it to celebrate a Trump victory.

I can't even begin to imagine the epic meltdown you're goin got have if Kamala wins.[/QUOTE]

Bahahahahahahahahaha!!!! No it is not!!

:roll:

[QUOTE=Off the Court;14948362]Okay, Trump is a slight favorite now. Did you read the rest of my post though? 55/45 is still a virtual coin flip, but you are using it to celebrate a Trump victory.

I can't even begin to imagine the epic meltdown you're goin got have if Kamala wins.[/QUOTE]

55/45 is not a coinfllp. It is a good lead. 60/40 is a blowout when talking elections and Trump isn't far from that.

But keep coping.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14947494]Things are trending towards Trump, just look at your link again. :lol

Even Trump's lead is widening a bit in the first link in my OP.

All swing states are slowly moving towards Trump.

And we all know Trump has outperformed his poll numbers by a significant amount in previous times he has ran.[/QUOTE]

I warned all these Kamala supporters that Trump was only widening his lead, but they wouldn't listen. Now look at the polls.

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/1hlTNcVLVS4AAAAM/jordan-shrug.gif[/IMG]

Well damn, I guess Trump won then. It's over. :oldlol:

the polls say so

[url]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo[/url]

uh oh, wait this one has Harris winning 55/45

and since we know, 55% of the time they win 100% of the time, I guess that means Harris will win for sure.

OTC scrambling for good news right now :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14948371]OTC scrambling for good news right now :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Yeah I found it! Harris is ahead 55/45. And you just said that means she wins!

F@#k yeah!

[QUOTE=Off the Court;14948372]Yeah I found it! Harris is ahead 55/45. And you just said that means she wins!

F@#k yeah![/QUOTE]

You're melting down right now. Relax. Trump can only be President for 4 more years. You'll be fine.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14948271]The pulse on the streets is a real thing, fellas. When you decide to leave your virginity caves and enter the real world and walk the streets, you will know what I am talking about.[/QUOTE]

When Poopsie says the "streets," he means Daily Wire.

Embarrassing for OTC to post a 538 link which is owned by ABC, the same company/network who is extremely pro left and moderated a lopsided debate while also ignoring all the other polls which clearly has Trump winning. Every betting site has Trump as the favorite now, but OTC can keep coping.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14948386]Embarrassing for OTC to post a 538 link which is owned by ABC, the same company/network who is extremely pro left and moderated a lopsided debate while also ignoring all the other polls which clearly has Trump winning. Every betting site has Trump as the favorite now, but OTC can keep coping.[/QUOTE]

You're the one desperate for confirmation :oldlol:

Even when Kamala was the betting favorite I said it was a coin flip. Because I don't need confirmation.

[video=youtube;12m0yoFdla8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12m0yoFdla8[/video]

Not even left wing news can ignore this.

If you want accurate odds as to who will win look at Nate Silver and Allan Lichtman. Both famous statisticians. Lichtman has predicted the last 10 elections and was one of the few who predicted the 2016 Trump victory. Silver was also very high on Trump in 2016 and has been analyzing polls forever. He is the founder of 538 but left them. He knows which polls are trustworthy and which ones are flawed.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14948396]If you want accurate odds as to who will win look at Nate Silver and Allan Lichtman. Both famous statisticians. Lichtman has predicted the last 10 elections and was one of the few who predicted the 2016 Trump victory. Silver was also very high on Trump in 2016 and has been analyzing polls forever. He is the founder of 538 but left them. He knows which polls are trustworthy and which ones are flawed.[/QUOTE]

While Nate Silver was more bullish on a Trump surprise victory in 2016, he still had Hillary winning like 70 something percent IIRC. Polls are all over the place rn, some have Trump as favorite, while others still have Harris holding on to the 3 most important states for Democrats, the Blue Wall states.

I still have as Trump slight favorite because Harris is just not a good candidate but if turnout is big, meaning not just taking into account population growth but that women and young people who don't usually vote and an uptick in black voters, then Harris should be slightly favorite. Anyways, both candidates suck ass :lol

[url]https://polymarket.com/elections[/url]

My goodness. Trump now at 57%, Kamala at 43%.

Kamala has no choice but to take interviews everywhere. Take a Fox News interview, go on Joe Rogan. What do you have to lose?

[QUOTE=TheMan;14948473]While Nate Silver was more bullish on a Trump surprise victory in 2016, he still had Hillary winning like 70 something percent IIRC. Polls are all over the place rn, some have Trump as favorite, while others still have Harris holding on to the 3 most important states for Democrats, the Blue Wall states.

I still have as Trump slight favorite because Harris is just not a good candidate but if turnout is big, meaning not just taking into account population growth but that women and young people who don't usually vote and an uptick in black voters, then Harris should be slightly favorite. Anyways, both candidates suck ass :lol[/QUOTE]
This is from 2016:
[url]https://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast[/url]

And since those days he has learned a lot. That is why he broke off from 538, he can see their flaws and he has his own model.

[url]https://x.com/tbonier/status/1845635982562820263[/url]


This should worry Republicans.

I've been saying repeatedly, whoever wins PA wins the election.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14948907][url]https://polymarket.com/elections[/url]

My goodness. Trump now at 57%, Kamala at 43%.

Kamala has no choice but to take interviews everywhere. Take a Fox News interview, go on Joe Rogan. What do you have to lose?[/QUOTE]

She's doing Fox news tomorrow night with Brett Baier. It's going to be taped at 5pm est... and his show goes on at 6pm.

There's zero chance she'd be doing this if they weren't desperate and knowing they were slipping in the polls.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14948912]She doing Fox news tomorrow night with Brett Baier. It's going to be taped at 5pm est... and his show goes on at 6pm.

There's zero chance she'd be doing this if they weren't desperate and knowing they were slipping in the polls.[/QUOTE]

I did not know this. They went from hiding her from interviews, then went to softball interviews, that backfired and now have no choice but to take tough interviews. :oldlol:

She's also going on Joe Rogan

I dont see trump being able to win with the mail in voting scam and all the illegal votes they will count. They can just flip all the swing states a week after the election like they did last time and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

[QUOTE=tpols;14948915]I dont see trump being able to win with the mail in voting scam and all the illegal votes they will count. They can just flip all the swing states a week after the election like they did last time and there's nothing anybody can do about it.[/QUOTE]

Mail in isn't as heavy left as it was in 2020. In 2020 Republican voters made it a point to vote in person to prove they weren't scared of covid. That isn't a thing any more. Now old voters are okay with mailing it in.

The current polling in the only states that matter

Pennsylvania: Trump by 0.1%

Georgia: Trump by 0.5%

Michigan: Kamala by 0.1%

North Carolina: Trump by 1.6%

Arizona: Trump by 1.8%

Wisconsin: Kamala by 0.3%

Nevada: Trump by 0.6%

I would agree that Trump is the slight favorite for now, but this shit is still WAY too close to call.

quoted wrong person

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14948918]The current polling in the only states that matter

Pennsylvania: Trump by 0.1%

Georgia: Trump by 0.5%

Michigan: Kamala by 0.1%

North Carolina: Trump by 1.6%

Arizona: Trump by 1.8%

Wisconsin: Kamala by 0.3%

Nevada: Trump by 0.6%

I would agree that Trump is the slight favorite for now, but this shit is still WAY too close to call.[/QUOTE]

Silver has:

PA: Dem +0.6
Mich: Dem +1.1
Wis: +Dem 1.0
NC: +Rep 0.8
Geor: +Rep 0.9
ARZ: +Rep 1.6
Nev: +Dem 0.8

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14948913]I did not know this. They went from hiding her from interviews, then went to softball interviews, that backfired and now have no choice but to take tough interviews. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
It was announced yesterday afternoon sometime. Brett's a good guy... it'll be interesting to see how hard he goes on her.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14948907][url]https://polymarket.com/elections[/url]

My goodness. Trump now at 57%, Kamala at 43%.

Kamala has no choice but to take interviews everywhere. Take a Fox News interview, go on Joe Rogan. What do you have to lose?[/QUOTE]

You keep harping on that it's her interviews that have her polls slipping but that's a low IQ take, Trump does a bunch of interviews where it's all just generalities and word salads but he keeps hammering his go to points (mass deportations basically), Harris is slipping because she went away from her populist positions she started out with in this campaign in the hopes of attracting disaffected Republicans, like touting the Cheneys, Dubya's, Romney and other prominent Republicans endorsements and going right on economic issues (corporate friendly), nobody wants to hear that shit. If she would've kept that populist message, she would be clearly ahead by now but the cowardly Democrats don't want to ruffle Corporate America's feathers. She had the chance to separate herself from Biden but she hasn't, that's why her polls are where they're at and they will keep going down if her campaign keeps going on the path they're going.