Did he do the math, on IF that choice would render him ineligible to ever win another award ?
How many back to backs are on Philly’s schedule this year ? More or less than 17 ?
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Did he do the math, on IF that choice would render him ineligible to ever win another award ?
How many back to backs are on Philly’s schedule this year ? More or less than 17 ?
At this point he should prioritize Philly getting a ring over potential supermax eligibility from an award. If he's too worn out to lead them in the playoffs going forward they wouldn't give him the supermax anyway.
Sixers fans will still be waiting for a Finals appearance and long after Embiid retires, they'll look back and feel that perhaps Embiid should have played more games. :lol
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14949946]Sixers fans will still be waiting for a Finals appearance and long after Embiid retires, they'll look back and feel that perhaps Embiid should have played more games. :lol[/QUOTE]
You would collapse if you had to run for more than 20 seconds, I wouldn't talk.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14949949]You would collapse if you had to run for more than 20 seconds, I wouldn't talk.[/QUOTE]
Grow up.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14949946]Sixers fans will still be waiting for a Finals appearance and long after Embiid retires, they'll look back and feel that perhaps Embiid should have played more games. :lol[/QUOTE]
The logic doesn’t add up. So after he retires we will look back and say “damn he should’ve played more games”. Because somehow that correlates to winning an NBA championship? How? lol You didn’t think that reply through.
[QUOTE=GOBB;14949955]The logic doesn’t add up. So after he retires we will look back and say “damn he should’ve played more games”. Because somehow that correlates to winning an NBA championship? How? lol You didn’t think that reply through.[/QUOTE]
That logic is perfectly sound. You have a window to win an NBA Championship with Embiid, right? "Trust the process" remember?
You don't win championships if your best player, an MVP, decides to take time off and play less games at the prime of his career at age 30. Players like Embiid don't grow on trees, so when he finally hangs it up and Philly has won nothing with him, it's not like there's another Embiid waiting in the wings to take his place. That's the logic.
Philly is counting on Maxey to carry them all season then they take the bubble wrap off Embiid and George in the playoffs. May not work but that should be obvious
Embiid playing a few less games in the regular season isn't going to cause them to miss the playoffs. Potentially it could mean a lower seed and tougher road to the finals.
But if embiid isn't healthy in the playoffs they aren't going to make a finals run. I can certainly see the logic of him playing fewer games.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXaZ75vi60M[/url]
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14949958]That logic is perfectly sound. You have a window to win an NBA Championship with Embiid, right? "Trust the process" remember?
You don't win championships if your best player, an MVP, decides to take time off and play less games at the prime of his career at age 30. Players like Embiid don't grow on trees, so when he finally hangs it up and Philly has won nothing with him, it's not like there's another Embiid waiting in the wings to take his place. That's the logic.[/QUOTE]
This is just horrible logic. I don’t even know why you double down to sound even more ridiculous. You do realize Sixers have been very cautious with Embiid during regular seasons for years now right? So all of a sudden they should read your nonsense errr logic and say hey let’s make embiid play more games in regular season. No more missing games, load managing him. Becuase his window is closing and we want to win an nba championship. And if all hinges on how many games he plays in the regular season. I can only imagine copying off your test and getting back the results. Yikes.
The key to the sixers winning an nba championship is embiid, George being health in the playoffs. Especially Embiid. It’s also being able to defeat the Boston Celtics in a series. Those two things happen we might see them in the finals. And we revisit this if that happens. But your take makes zero sense.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14950011]Embiid playing a few less games in the regular season isn't going to cause them to miss the playoffs. Potentially it could mean a lower seed and tougher road to the finals.
But if embiid isn't healthy in the playoffs they aren't going to make a finals run. I can certainly see the logic of him playing fewer games.[/QUOTE]
I can see the logic in it but to play devils advocate? Embiid doesn’t get injured because of overuse. He’s not getting injured because he’s on a coach Thibs workout plan. So you can sit, rest him games during the season. Any time he hobbles, limps, falls to the ground Sixers fans cross their fingers it’s nothing serious. The guy was playing mvp caliber ball until he got hurt.
[QUOTE=BarberSchool;14949935]Did he do the math, on IF that choice would render him ineligible to ever win another award ?
How many back to backs are on Philly’s schedule this year ? More or less than 17 ?[/QUOTE]
It's interesting that this interview and story from Bontemps has caused so much talk because a week before it even came out, on media day, Embiid said he talked to Morey and they both agreed that there will be no All-NBA or All-Star game for him this season.
He legitimately ruled out any awards on day one, which I can imagine f'cked up some betting markets. Seems to me this was bigger news than just not playing back to backs, but just goes to show how much attention people actually pay.
I'm surprised Silver and the NBA didn't take action against this. Seems pretty radical to declare that you are not playing in the All-Star game on media day.
[QUOTE=GOBB;14950016]This is just horrible logic. I don’t even know why you double down to sound even more ridiculous. You do realize Sixers have been very cautious with Embiid during regular seasons for years now right? So all of a sudden they should read your nonsense errr logic and say hey let’s make embiid play more games in regular season. No more missing games, load managing him. Becuase his window is closing and we want to win an nba championship. And if all hinges on how many games he plays in the regular season. I can only imagine copying off your test and getting back the results. Yikes.
The key to the sixers winning an nba championship is embiid, George being health in the playoffs. Especially Embiid. It’s also being able to defeat the Boston Celtics in a series. Those two things happen we might see them in the finals. And we revisit this if that happens. But your take makes zero sense.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
Why even have a regular season then??
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14950034]:oldlol:
Why even have a regular season then??[/QUOTE]
What? You still need to get in game shape, get a flow/rhythm. Silly question.
[QUOTE=GOBB;14950038]What? You still need to get in game shape, get a flow/rhythm. Silly question.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! That’s why you have to play! You made my point. :oldlol:
To be fair with embiid, he didn't imply that he's gonna sit for like half the season or something like that. He's gonna play in the rs obviously but this time, with a specific restriction. Although he would be so unfortunate if he still breaks down under such scenario.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14950046]Exactly! That’s why you have to play! You made my point. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
He does play. I’m lost. Embiid issue is come playoffs can he remain health throughout. Everyone can talk about regular season games played/games missed. When it’s the playoffs are you there every game til the end or are we holding breath as you are out game 3 and questionable for game 4. Follow?
I suspect that embiid may have played some games in the past when he was hurting just so he would have a chance at MVP. Even before the 65 game rule went into effect missed games were a pretty big factor when voting for MVP.
Now he isn't going to worry about regular season awards. In the past he made it clear that he really wanted a MVP.
And this is why the NBA is a joke league nowadays. No one wants to play. The most conditioned athletes in the history of the league because of modern medicine and training, and the softest bunch of pansies ever in the league.
[QUOTE=Locked_Up_Tonight;14950092]And this is why the NBA is a joke league nowadays. No one wants to play. The most conditioned athletes in the history of the league because of modern medicine and training, and the softest bunch of pansies ever in the league.[/QUOTE]
Embiid had had enough injuries for it to be unfair to say this about him. He should maybe see if he could stay healthy at 250 pounds but as he is we have a lot of proof that he just can't take an 82 game season.
KG goes off on EmSoft
[video=youtube_share;3Y9o5Hl_4Pc]https://youtu.be/3Y9o5Hl_4Pc?si=znDvA8eU2UfdkmQ3[/video]
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14950103]Embiid had had enough injuries for it to be unfair to say this about him. He should maybe see if he could stay healthy at 250 pounds but as he is we have a lot of proof that he just can't take an 82 game season.[/QUOTE]
It isn't just Embiid that is doing this crap in the league. There are a bunch of superstars that are "taking the day off" about every 4th game. Not because of injury but because the 82 games and a few back to backs is just so hard.
[QUOTE=Locked_Up_Tonight;14950161]It isn't just Embiid that is doing this crap in the league. There are a bunch of superstars that are "taking the day off" about every 4th game. Not because of injury but because the 82 games and a few back to backs is just so hard.[/QUOTE]
That has a lot to do with the teams, not just the players. Owner makes the same money whether a star plays or not, especially if the game is not nationally televised there's no downside to giving players rest. You could say that fans are being cheated but a lot of fans are in on it. If you're Sixers fan you are worried about having Embiid in the playoffs and if the price of that is a 50 game season then so be it. If you are a fan of the other team there's a good chance you will be happy to see your team get a win even if Embiid doesn't play. There are some fans that yes buy the ticket for their one chance to see some star in action and for them it sticks but overall this is a victimless crime.
Where I do wish a line was drawn is the nationally televised games. There have been a few times w where the league tried to showcase a match and teams decided to sit all their big names. That's bad for the league. But in this case Embiid is giving everyone a warning. So don't put Philly on TV.
In case embiid doesn't feel confident enough he'll make it unhampered, then why not take the IST seriously instead? I guess winning it is better than nothing at all. The only thing holding them back is george who may not be able to help him out there but who knows.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14950034]:oldlol:
Why even have a regular season then??[/QUOTE]
I mean I don't think we would lose anything if they cut the regular season down 50 games.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14949962]Philly is counting on Maxey to carry them all season then they take the bubble wrap off Embiid and George in the playoffs. May not work but that should be obvious[/QUOTE]
A bubble wrapped embiid still got more time than your boy in the olympics and actually contributed to the team.
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14950183]A bubble wrapped embiid still got more time than your boy in the olympics and actually contributed to the team.[/QUOTE]
Fascinating.
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no one takes that injury riddled ring seriously. Thats like the raptors vs the warriors.
except every.....single.....round.....
Right. Feel free not to watch the ring ceremony Tuesday. This isn't a rivalry.
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Back to backs are pretty stupid as is the 82 game schedule, but you're not changing this after 50 years.
The issue is more that teams have mostly given up on systems and culture. Remember that Pop was one of the first to rest players, but he did it because he could, because Spurs had a system and a plug and play culture. Most teams today that have superstars absolutely suck without their stars.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14950174]That has a lot to do with the teams, not just the players. Owner makes the same money whether a star plays or not, especially if the game is not nationally televised there's no downside to giving players rest. You could say that fans are being cheated but a lot of fans are in on it. If you're Sixers fan you are worried about having Embiid in the playoffs and if the price of that is a 50 game season then so be it. If you are a fan of the other team there's a good chance you will be happy to see your team get a win even if Embiid doesn't play. [B] There are some fans that yes buy the ticket for their one chance to see some star in action[/B] and for them it sticks but overall this is a victimless crime.
Where I do wish a line was drawn is the nationally televised games. There have been a few times w where the league tried to showcase a match and teams decided to sit all their big names. That's bad for the league. But in this case Embiid is giving everyone a warning. So don't put Philly on TV.[/QUOTE]
I think you underestimate this side of things. The NBA is a star-driven league, and every Lakers, Warriors, Suns game there are hundreds of kids taken there to see Lebron, Curry, or KD.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14950273]I think you underestimate this side of things. The NBA is a star-driven league, and every Lakers, Warriors, Suns game there are hundreds of kids taken there to see Lebron, Curry, or KD.[/QUOTE]
It isn't being quantified so we can only guess the impact. It's a fact that in this era of more load management than ever the NBA is making more money than ever. For the league it's only a real problem if it hurts owners' pockets. I realize that there are fans that only go to one game a year and it sucks if that one game the star doesn't play but no one has had to pay for it.
[QUOTE=Manny98;14950159]KG goes off on EmSoft
[video=youtube_share;3Y9o5Hl_4Pc]https://youtu.be/3Y9o5Hl_4Pc?si=znDvA8eU2UfdkmQ3[/video][/QUOTE]
This.
GOBB has to be in his 40's or 50's considering he's been around for a while, so I just don't understand someone who has watched basketball for so long, has seen the greats for so long, I can't understand how just because Embiid is his boy on his favorite team, that he has to go against everything he knows when you even have Hall of Famers calling Embiid out. He has the nerve to question us on our stance, well go and question an actual NBA player on their stance and see what they tell you.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14950403]This.
GOBB has to be in his 40's or 50's considering he's been around for a while, so I just don't understand someone who has watched basketball for so long, has seen the greats for so long, I can't understand how just because Embiid is his boy on his favorite team, that he has to go against everything he knows when you even have Hall of Famers calling Embiid out. He has the nerve to question us on our stance, well go and question an actual NBA player on their stance and see what they tell you.[/QUOTE]
I think you’re remedial. Said in my initial reply I don’t like load management and players sitting out. Not sure how else I can type that. Perhaps in a different language you may still not understand. Just so you can repeat this comment above.
[QUOTE=GOBB;14950413]I think you’re remedial. Said in my initial reply I don’t like load management and players sitting out. Not sure how else I can type that. Perhaps in a different language you may still not understand. Just so you can repeat this comment above.[/QUOTE]
If you don't like it, then you wouldn't be making excuses for Embiid just because he plays on your favorite team.
No George or Embiid in game 1. Season opener already ruined.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14950470]No George or Embiid in game 1. Season opener already ruined.[/QUOTE]
Like clockwork.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14950470]No George or Embiid in game 1. Season opener already ruined.[/QUOTE]
The report is that Embiid won't even play this week. That's 2-3 games missed at least. :lol