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24/10/3 with more turnovers than assists.
I can see why OP, after posting at midnight and 3:30 am, and other times in between with his 'post' alt, rushed to make this thread at 9 am the moment he woke up from his daily three hour nap when he takes his only break from ISH, including holidays and weekends.
With numbers like that, who could argue against V Dub being ready to be proclaimed the future GOAT.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960661]The next 8 after Jokic and Giannis is probably (not in order) Wemby, SGA, Luka, Tatum, Curry, AD, Embiid (if healthy), and I guess KD. Would have said LeBron a little while ago but he's looking old.[/QUOTE]
I think that's basically the same as my list on page 1. Lebron just in terms of +/- is a negative, so right now 'benefit of doubt' fairly shouldn't apply to him over guys who are also putting up numbers but also a positive. He may have 10 games this year where he looks like he did at 30, but the other 72 is too far a cry from that to rank him top 10.
[QUOTE=Neal Romer;14960663][IMG]https://media.tenor.com/JVdf0xu1vhIAAAAM/dragontan.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
You continue to make yourself look like a braindead idiot hating on this guy. And it's only going to get worse :(
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960665]You continue to make yourself look like a braindead idiot hating on this guy. But hey, gotta hate on someone when you're a failed actor who wasted his life savings on razor blades.[/QUOTE]
Thinking people who proclaimed him the future GOAT after the third game of his career are ugly defective reterds is not hating on Wembanyama at all. It's hating on YOU.
[QUOTE=Neal Romer;14960668]:cry:[/QUOTE]
You're literally the only person pushing back against what I'm saying in this thread, pretty much everyone besides you (an infamous retard who can't analyze basketball at all) can see he has GOAT potential if he stays healthy.
His offense isn't shit. He's very easy to guard.
You would rather have a guy who does way less as far as usage offensively but does it better like Jimmy Butler. Scratch even that, Anthony Davis is a much better offensive player right now.
This isn't 2017 either. .605 TS% is just decent. Not elite.
He reminds me of Giannis pre-2019. Box score stuffing athletic mope offensively. No real impact on how teams defend.
[QUOTE=999Guy;14960671]D-duhhhh-uhhhh-uhhhh!!!![/QUOTE]
:biggums:
He's +5% rTS on massive volume, you're dumb as a rock :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Neal Romer;14960663]24/10/3 with more turnovers than assists.
I can see why OP, after posting at midnight and 3:30 am, and other times in between with his 'post' alt, rushed to make this thread at 9 am the moment he woke up from his daily three hour nap when he takes his only break from ISH, including holidays and weekends.
With numbers like that, who could argue against V Dub being ready to be proclaimed the future GOAT.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol:
[QUOTE=999Guy;14960671]His offense isn't shit. He's very easy to guard.
You would rather have a guy who does way less as far as usage offensively but does it better like Jimmy Butler. [B]Scratch even that, Anthony Davis is a much better offensive player right now.[/B]
This isn't 2017 either. .605 TS% is just decent. Not elite.
He reminds me of Giannis pre-2019. Box score stuffing athletic mope offensively. No real impact on how teams defend.[/QUOTE]
That's not really a slight though. AD averaging 29/63% TS is better than most offensively asides from a handful.
[QUOTE=999Guy;14960671]His offense isn't shit. He's very easy to guard.
You would rather have a guy who does way less as far as usage offensively but does it better like Jimmy Butler. Scratch even that, Anthony Davis is a much better offensive player right now.
This isn't 2017 either. .605 TS% is just decent. Not elite.
He reminds me of Giannis pre-2019. Box score stuffing athletic mope offensively. No real impact on how teams defend.[/QUOTE]
Anthony Davis is averaging prime peak KAJ numbers right now... so not really a slight. Don't see the Giannis comparison, Dubya can shoot like 100x better albeit he'll never be as strong as Giannis because of the lanky-ness. Nevertheless he's obviously going to be a big time HOF player either way. But he has more basketball skills than giannis.
I think the question we have to all ask ourselves though is will Wemby ever make it to peak Siakam level?
[video=youtube_share;3ugrYiEl9gg]https://youtu.be/3ugrYiEl9gg?si=blPvEQGnkRwYLPXT[/video]
And he did that on DPOY Draymond Green.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
tell me the nba is rigged without telling me its rigged.
teams will tank for 5 years straight and not sniff a 1st pick, but the spurs tank hardcore for one season and get him. got duncan as well. ok suuuuuureeeeee
[QUOTE=highwhey;14960703]tell me the nba is rigged without telling me its rigged.
teams will tank for 5 years straight and not sniff a 1st pick, but the spurs tank hardcore for one season and get him. got duncan as well. ok suuuuuureeeeee[/QUOTE]
The Duncan Spurs were absolute ratings killers, I seriously doubt the NBA would rig the draft for their next GOAT talent to go back there :lol
[QUOTE=highwhey;14960703]tell me the nba is rigged without telling me its rigged.
teams will tank for 5 years straight and not sniff a 1st pick, but the spurs tank hardcore for one season and get him. got duncan as well. ok suuuuuureeeeee[/QUOTE]
Why would the league have any vested interest in promoting the Spurs over other smaller market teams?
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14960705]The Duncan Spurs were absolute ratings killers, I seriously doubt the NBA would rig the draft for their next GOAT talent to go back there :lol[/QUOTE]
the refs sure as hell seemed biased towards the spurs
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14960706]Why would the league have any vested interest in promoting the Spurs over other smaller market teams?[/QUOTE]
idk, but you don't find it odd that when the spurs decide to tank for one year, they, against all odds, land a generational talent not once, but twice? ok.
like i said before, other teams will tank for years and not be so luck as to even get a #1 pick but the spurs...
yeah, no such thing as coincidences.
[QUOTE=highwhey;14960713]idk, but you don't find it odd that when the spurs decide to tank for one year, they, against all odds, land a generational talent not once, but twice? ok.
like i said before, other teams will tank for years and not be so luck as to even get a #1 pick but the spurs...
yeah, no such thing as coincidences.[/QUOTE]
I suppose you could say lightning rarely strikes twice but again, that doesn't answer why the league would propel the Spurs in particular.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960618]He’s dumb as a rock, genuinely has no idea how to analyze basketball :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Never play or touch a basketball
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14960718]I suppose you could say lightning rarely strikes twice but again, that doesn't answer why the league would propel the Spurs in particular.[/QUOTE]
and i said i do not know. we are not privy to the behind the scenes action. for all we know, the spurs owner could be tied in some way to nba higher ups. in this country, it's always a case of who you know that determines what doors will open for you. it's like that accross the board for every industry and line of work. it's why i laugh when people criticize DEI hires,,,as if generations of our important government positions haven't been handed out of pure favoritism or nepotism.
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14960706]Why would the league have any vested interest in promoting the Spurs over other smaller market teams?[/QUOTE]
and fyi, it was no secrete david stern HATED the suns owner back in the Nash era...which made the whole robert horry incident look very funny bc it cost the Suns a championship...
[QUOTE=highwhey;14960738]and i said i do not know. we are not privy to the behind the scenes action. for all we know, the spurs owner could be tied in some way to nba higher ups. in this country, it's always a case of who you know that determines what doors will open for you. it's like that accross the board for every industry and line of work. it's why i laugh when people criticize DEI hires,,,as if generations of our important government positions haven't been handed out of pure favoritism or nepotism.[/QUOTE]
Maybe but in the absence of any real evidence besides your personal suspicions, not really much point to speculating and really, I have a hard time thinking that kind of nepotism wouldn't have been uncovered by now. Plus the NBA higher ups from 1997 when Duncan got drafted to 2023 when Wemby came into the league have changed over, so basically you're saying the Spurs front office has some running 'in' with the league over multiple decades.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960651]He's a great player but I think he has enough glaring flaws that you can argue a handful of guys besides Jokic and Giannis as better than him atp.[/QUOTE]
Its Luka, youre gonna put Ant/Shai infront of him cause we played 25% of the season? :D
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14960744]Its Luka, youre gonna put Ant/Shai infront of him cause we played 25% of the season? :D[/QUOTE]
No, because Shai plays both ends. He was 2nd in the MVP voting last season and was 1st team All NBA for the 2nd straight season.
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14960741]Maybe but in the absence of any real evidence besides your personal suspicions, not really much point to speculating and really, I have a hard time thinking that kind of nepotism wouldn't have been uncovered by now. Plus the NBA higher ups from 1997 when Duncan got drafted to 2023 when Wemby came into the league have changed over, so basically you're saying the Spurs front office has some running 'in' with the league over multiple decades.[/QUOTE]
umm the pattern is very real evidence. it's like people going missing with a common friend...the authorities would be all over that sh1t. patterns give justice to theories.
[QUOTE=highwhey;14960749]umm the pattern is very real evidence. it's like people going missing with a common friend...the authorities would be all over that sh1t. patterns give justice to theories.[/QUOTE]
Meltdown.
[QUOTE=highwhey;14960749]umm the pattern is very real evidence. it's like people going missing with a common friend...the authorities would be all over that sh1t. patterns give justice to theories.[/QUOTE]
A pattern of two occurrences 26 years apart? Believe whatever man.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14960746]No, because Shai plays both ends. He was 2nd in the MVP voting last season and was 1st team All NBA for the 2nd straight season.[/QUOTE]
Shai also played both ends last year and wasnt better.
Get a real argument bro.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14960769]Shai also played both ends last year and wasnt better.
Get a real argument bro.[/QUOTE]
He was easily better in their playoff series.
I am not the one that voted him 2nd in the MVP race. That actually happened no matter how much you try to pretend it didn't.
Unlike Luka his game hasn't fallen off so far this season.
Just got done watching the game vs Kings. Well played game. The Spurs moved the ball pretty well. Wemby took 9 3s but they were good looks other than one end of quarter heave.
I wouldn't worry about his 3 pt volume at this point. Let him have his fun. Less wear and tear on the body taking 3s.
As he matures physically and the Spurs get better then we can talk about him being more selective from 3.
I told you dudes he was gonna be banging threes. He is shooting a lot of them, but the only ones that worry me are step backs. He's basically wide open because of how tall he is. He's a good shooter. It's not wasted, but I'd like to see him use that more on the block to get every time cash shots. Should be like FTs.
I wonder what player would fit best with him...
-Smak
Prime Porzingis numbers.